Show don't tell. We don't need to specifically say something in life in order to mean it necessarily. If I punch someone in the face, you can supposed logically that I don't like them-- whether I say I like them or not doesn't matter, does it. Lizzo and other fat female celebrities putting on skimpy clothing and shaking their massive fat asses and cellulite bodies everywhere on stage and live TV shows people that that's apparently acceptable, when it isn't. 1) It's unattractive and gross, and 2) obesity is unhealthy and unnatural. These are facts, not opinions.
Well she is a performer. Much like WWE wrestlers who only wear underwear and a pair of boots. They are both putting on a show. But when they are walking around doing groceries they aren't wearing their outfits. So what's the difference between them?
Um... WWE wrestlers are athletes who are an attractive weight and who are physically healthy. Lizzo, and people like her, aren't. Like asking what the difference is between night and day.
Except that there are fat wrestlers too. You don't really hear people saying that fat WWE wrestlers and sumo wrestlers are unattractive, do you? These professionals are a product that brings to the table unique personality traits that the market craves due to oversaturation. Let me give you another example. Actors gain weight to play certain roles. Jared Leto gained 67 pounds for Chapter 27. Renee Zellweger gained 40 pounds for Bridget Jones Diary. Rob Mcelhenny gained over 50 pounds in Always Sunny in Philidelphia just to make his character funnier. The comedian Gabriel Iglesias makes fun of his weight all the time, but do you hear anybody promoting obesity? No, it's a job, and being fat just puts them in business. If someone gave you 50 million dollars to play a role that required you to gain 60 pounds of fat by eating cheeseburgers every day for a month, you'd say no? Maybe Lizzo would lose weight one day, but when she's doing so well on the billboards, why would she stop promoting herself.
And I'll tell you again, since you missed it the first time, "Show don't tell. We don't need to specifically say something in life in order to mean it necessarily. If I punch someone in the face, you can supposed logically that I don't like them-- whether I say I like them or not doesn't matter, does it. Lizzo and other fat female celebrities putting on skimpy clothing and shaking their massive fat asses and cellulite bodies everywhere on stage and live TV shows people that that's apparently acceptable, when it isn't. 1) It's unattractive and gross, and 2) obesity is unhealthy and unnatural. These are facts, not opinions."
What can be said, they get paid a lot of money to continue what they do. If all you want to see is skinny people dancing, you could always switch to a video of Beyonce on. And just because there is BBW porn on the internet doesn't mean you have to tune into it either. I don't get why you are on GaG about this. If this meant so much to you, why aren't you on Lizzo's facebook personally telling her to stop what she's doing. You know, get straight to the source.
Because morons on Facebook would moan about it. Lizzo isn't going to change; there's no point in trying to make her. Changing other people's minds, enough of them, will hopefully filter up to her and help her understand what she's doing wrong. It's not just Lizzo, by the way. I'm using the example of Lizzo but there are many others.
Anybody who thinks that chick is hot will find no competition from me. Gross
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People of both genders do that. Obesity is not natural; it’s disgusting and unhealthy. Feeling good about oneself is fine, but promoting a body type that dramatically increases one’s risk of having serious health problems is not okay.
Mmmm... no, you don't see fat males that aren't comedians like Chris Farley back in the day or whatever up on live TV in basically zero clothing, trying really hard to convince you how sexy they are (or aren't, really). This is a female-only problem.
No they are beautiful the way they are they’re not promoting anything they just live in their lives and being who they are. Fat shaming & negative people who are against them are miserable themselves.
... No they aren't, and yes they are. There is no such thing as "fat-shaming." Pointing out a statement of fact-- that someone is fat-- is simply stating a fact. A statement of fact is not "shaming." Like saying you're "blue-eye shaming" to point out to someone, "hey you have really blue eyes." That isn't logical.
why does it matter so much, as soon as a successful "overweight' women make it on the radio you're so quick to pick on her. You know nothing about her life, she might be trying to lose weight, and eat healthily. people are so quick to judge, let her live her life and know her worth, because its a lot more then an obvious catfish trolling women he doesn't find appealing every week. get over yourself.
"Why does it matter so much" you mean why does giving yourself diabetes matter? Maybe look up the reasons why obesity is bad before you start asking weird questions with really obvious answers.
Uh because bad things are bad? Duh? I also care about war deaths even if I don't know the people who were killed. Important things are important. Are you serious?
No you are , if a skinny anorexic girl was signing you wouldn’t say shit, she works hard for her job and like I said you know nothing about her life, she’s telling young girls to look after themselves and know their worth because many get bullied for the way they look just like you are doing right now. She has nothing to do with your life just leave it alone. And by the way there’s a wide difference between war and a women singing and having fans
You, like a few other females here who have answered, have created a false dichotomy-- people are not, if they are not obese, anorexic. The correct answer is to be *normal.* A normal slim healthy weight. You're saying, whether you mean to or not, that to suggest that obesity is bad (which it is) means that the person suggesting it is promoting anorexia instead. That not only is incorrect, but really, really stupid.
Maybe you should stop fucking stop focusing on appearance like it’s your life line and let people do what they want, no one can be perfect. Sure they can aspire to be their best, but they aren’t living for you so calm the fuck down and move on🤡
Nicely done essentially having no argument whatsoever. Here, since you missed it on other peoples' comments who did the same thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
lmaooooooooooooooooo you're such a clown you're only argument is being bothered so much that you dont find her attractive!!! you're a catfish as well lmfaoo probably some fat old man bullying girls twice as successful as them all because he feels as pathetic as how he looks at them!! keep talking clown. WHOOOPS I meant CATFISHH hahaah
Why can't she think she is beautiful? why can't others think she is beautiful? belive it or not but some men an women are into fat women. And even if every single person on this planet is not into fat girls, that doesn't mean she can't twerk if she wants to. Besides I had to watch jonah hills nacked ass on screen during the wolf of wall street so yes sometimes we are forced to see things we'd rather not see. but that doesn't mean only conventionally attractive people are allowed to dress howeveer they want.
Why can't you accept logical answers to your already-asked questions?
Her *ability* to be fat and unhealthy and shake her gross ass on TV is not at issue. "She can" is not a logical defense of illogical behavior. Like... what?
my rhetorical question were a response to your assumption that she musst be lied to when someone tells her she is beautiful. She doesn't expect people to be into her. She is just living her live how she wants to live it. Did she ever say men should be attracted to her? And no one should expect someone to be attracted to them. No one is entitled to sex or sexual attraction. But Lizzo never even hinted that she expects that.
Um... yes, she does expect people to be into her. Apparently you don't... know who this person is that we're talking about. Lizzo in and of herself isn't the point, either-- she is merely one example of what we're talking about here, and is just the loudest, most recent example. For YEARS fat female celebrities have led other fat female non-celebrities astray with lies of "just love yourself, there's nothing wrong with you." My God, someone does not need to *explicitly say* something in order for it to be implied. Are you serious right now? If someone dresses in a thong and shakes their ass on live TV, *they want attention and are drawing attention to their body as something that should be seen as sexy.* They do not need to LITERALLY SAY "hey guys, pay attention to me I'm so sexy and hey girls, you should get fat like me because fat is beautiful." Fucking hell. Are you joking?
So in other words your whole point is based on assumptions about her and not actual facts. I'm sure there are women out there that expect men to be into them no matter how they look. Just like there are men who expect the same. But saying Lizzo or any other fat female celebrity expects men to be into her kis simply an assumption. But I agree with the attention part. But basically anyone posting a picture of themself online does it for attention. Otherwise they could've just keept it on their phone for themselves. And yes it's completly fine for her to think she is sexy. Is she supposed to dress in a potat. o sack cause she is fat? there's something called freedom of choice that most people value very much
... No, it isn't "an assumption," you apparently aren't aware of what the term "implication" is; I suggest a dictionary. You're clearly beyond saving, here. I'm wasting my time.
Firstly she a black woman so she automatically ugly loud and mean and fat. She just a fat girl overcompensating because nobody gave her attention n before and now people praised her a little bit so she ran with it
I don't know what you're talking about, and I don't care that you disagree with me, "lmao." You're wrong. You disagreeing with me has nothing to do with it.
Like we discussed earlier, fat is attractive, factually. Disagreement with a fact shows a lack of intelligence. I know you just posted that update to get feisty with people again, but it's something you'll always be wrong about regardless. Lmao.
Ad hominem essentially is attacking character instead of substance in an attempt to make yourself look smarter. The substance of course is a fact, so you can't argue it, so you went with a weak insult. It didn't work.
Where are your emojis? Your word usage lacks. Please, emojis. And no, it isn't; anonymity and all that.
Colony collapse disorder (CCD) is an abnormal phenomenon that occurs when the majority of worker bees in a honey bee colony disappear, leaving behind a queen, plenty of food, and a few nurse bees to care for the remaining immature bees.[1] While such disappearances have occurred sporadically throughout the history of apiculture, and have been known by various names (including disappearing disease, spring dwindle, May disease, autumn collapse, and fall dwindle disease),[2] the syndrome was renamed colony collapse disorder in late 2006[3] in conjunction with a drastic rise in reports of disappearances of western honey bee (Apis mellifera) colonies in North America.
As we discussed in Chapter 8, Congress gave states 75% matching funds in 1962 to provide social services to existing or potential recipients of AFDC. Some states seemed unaware of the legislation or used the money only for traditional services, such as home visits to AFDC recipients, but discerning policy analysts in various states, including California, Oregon, Pennsylvania, and Washington, realized that they could use the funds to develop a range of programs. Furthermore, when a federal administrator who prized expansiveness replaced a cost-conscious one, the use of the funds increased dramatically; some state officials were allowed to use the funds for drug, mental health, public education, and even highway construction programs. In 1972, the Nixon administration sought to place a ceiling on this runaway program. To protect the program and to counter HEW regulations that limited its services to persons currently receiving or applying for welfare, the Congress created Title XX of the Social Security Act, which allocated funds to states according to a prescribed formula for use-- with broad latitude by each state-- in programs to enhance individuals' ability to be self-supporting, family care or self-care, community-based care, or institutional care. The legis
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I think Lizzo is a great singer. Honestly couldn't care less how she looks. I love her talent.
I'm sorry. On all counts.
Sorry for what?
For "I think Lizzo is a great singer. Honestly couldn't care less how she looks. I love her talent" that.
Yep what's to be sorry about?
Oh bud... I'm so sorry. Just... good luck out there.
Ight thanks 🤣
I think it's horrible. It's promoting poor health and premature death.
You seem to be looking very into it. Where do you see her promoting obesity?
Show don't tell. We don't need to specifically say something in life in order to mean it necessarily. If I punch someone in the face, you can supposed logically that I don't like them-- whether I say I like them or not doesn't matter, does it. Lizzo and other fat female celebrities putting on skimpy clothing and shaking their massive fat asses and cellulite bodies everywhere on stage and live TV shows people that that's apparently acceptable, when it isn't. 1) It's unattractive and gross, and 2) obesity is unhealthy and unnatural. These are facts, not opinions.
Well she is a performer. Much like WWE wrestlers who only wear underwear and a pair of boots. They are both putting on a show. But when they are walking around doing groceries they aren't wearing their outfits. So what's the difference between them?
Um... WWE wrestlers are athletes who are an attractive weight and who are physically healthy. Lizzo, and people like her, aren't.
Like asking what the difference is between night and day.
Except that there are fat wrestlers too. You don't really hear people saying that fat WWE wrestlers and sumo wrestlers are unattractive, do you? These professionals are a product that brings to the table unique personality traits that the market craves due to oversaturation. Let me give you another example. Actors gain weight to play certain roles. Jared Leto gained 67 pounds for Chapter 27. Renee Zellweger gained 40 pounds for Bridget Jones Diary. Rob Mcelhenny gained over 50 pounds in Always Sunny in Philidelphia just to make his character funnier. The comedian Gabriel Iglesias makes fun of his weight all the time, but do you hear anybody promoting obesity? No, it's a job, and being fat just puts them in business. If someone gave you 50 million dollars to play a role that required you to gain 60 pounds of fat by eating cheeseburgers every day for a month, you'd say no? Maybe Lizzo would lose weight one day, but when she's doing so well on the billboards, why would she stop promoting herself.
So I ask you again, what's the difference?
And I'll tell you again, since you missed it the first time, "Show don't tell. We don't need to specifically say something in life in order to mean it necessarily. If I punch someone in the face, you can supposed logically that I don't like them-- whether I say I like them or not doesn't matter, does it. Lizzo and other fat female celebrities putting on skimpy clothing and shaking their massive fat asses and cellulite bodies everywhere on stage and live TV shows people that that's apparently acceptable, when it isn't. 1) It's unattractive and gross, and 2) obesity is unhealthy and unnatural. These are facts, not opinions."
What can be said, they get paid a lot of money to continue what they do. If all you want to see is skinny people dancing, you could always switch to a video of Beyonce on. And just because there is BBW porn on the internet doesn't mean you have to tune into it either. I don't get why you are on GaG about this. If this meant so much to you, why aren't you on Lizzo's facebook personally telling her to stop what she's doing. You know, get straight to the source.
Because morons on Facebook would moan about it. Lizzo isn't going to change; there's no point in trying to make her. Changing other people's minds, enough of them, will hopefully filter up to her and help her understand what she's doing wrong. It's not just Lizzo, by the way. I'm using the example of Lizzo but there are many others.
Anybody who thinks that chick is hot will find no competition from me. Gross
People of both genders do that. Obesity is not natural; it’s disgusting and unhealthy. Feeling good about oneself is fine, but promoting a body type that dramatically increases one’s risk of having serious health problems is not okay.
Mmmm... no, you don't see fat males that aren't comedians like Chris Farley back in the day or whatever up on live TV in basically zero clothing, trying really hard to convince you how sexy they are (or aren't, really). This is a female-only problem.
fat people need to lose weight. This is not an insult its for health.
Would you tell an underweight woman to gain weight?
Too fat to my licking but some African Guys find that big women super sexy
Yes and I hate seeing that promoted. Fat is not beautiful. Fat is deadly.
Its stupid and a detriment to society to promote an unhealthy and potentially deadly way of living.
Unless you live in an echo chamber or insist on confining your life experience to a tiny bubble, you can't expect everyone to agree with you.
I think she's beautiful and I'm happy to see her recognized as a talented musician.
I'm sorry. You're wrong.
No they are beautiful the way they are they’re not promoting anything they just live in their lives and being who they are. Fat shaming & negative people who are against them are miserable themselves.
... No they aren't, and yes they are. There is no such thing as "fat-shaming." Pointing out a statement of fact-- that someone is fat-- is simply stating a fact. A statement of fact is not "shaming." Like saying you're "blue-eye shaming" to point out to someone, "hey you have really blue eyes." That isn't logical.
why does it matter so much, as soon as a successful "overweight' women make it on the radio you're so quick to pick on her. You know nothing about her life, she might be trying to lose weight, and eat healthily. people are so quick to judge, let her live her life and know her worth, because its a lot more then an obvious catfish trolling women he doesn't find appealing every week. get over yourself.
"Why does it matter so much" you mean why does giving yourself diabetes matter? Maybe look up the reasons why obesity is bad before you start asking weird questions with really obvious answers.
Why does it matter so much to you
Uh because bad things are bad? Duh? I also care about war deaths even if I don't know the people who were killed. Important things are important. Are you serious?
Seriously. You probably don’t even listen to her music she’s probably just another person you go on the internet to pick on
(claps) Well done. You're completely missing the point. Good job. I expected nothing less.
No you are , if a skinny anorexic girl was signing you wouldn’t say shit, she works hard for her job and like I said you know nothing about her life, she’s telling young girls to look after themselves and know their worth because many get bullied for the way they look just like you are doing right now. She has nothing to do with your life just leave it alone. And by the way there’s a wide difference between war and a women singing and having fans
You, like a few other females here who have answered, have created a false dichotomy-- people are not, if they are not obese, anorexic. The correct answer is to be *normal.* A normal slim healthy weight. You're saying, whether you mean to or not, that to suggest that obesity is bad (which it is) means that the person suggesting it is promoting anorexia instead. That not only is incorrect, but really, really stupid.
Maybe you should stop fucking stop focusing on appearance like it’s your life line and let people do what they want, no one can be perfect. Sure they can aspire to be their best, but they aren’t living for you so calm the fuck down and move on🤡
Nicely done essentially having no argument whatsoever. Here, since you missed it on other peoples' comments who did the same thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
Start reading, and good luck!
lmaooooooooooooooooo you're such a clown you're only argument is being bothered so much that you dont find her attractive!!! you're a catfish as well lmfaoo probably some fat old man bullying girls twice as successful as them all because he feels as pathetic as how he looks at them!! keep talking clown. WHOOOPS I meant CATFISHH hahaah
Yawn. You're boring. Any further comments from you will be deleted. Please gain some brain cells before posting, thanks.
funny how I never see those type of questions being asked about DJ Khaled, Jonah hill, Jack Black and other fat guys.
Are DJ Khaled, Jonah Hill, Jack Black, and other fat guys being lied about on social media as being attractive? Are DJ Khaled, Jonah Hill, Jack Black, and other fat guys doing this on live TV? popculture.com/.../
Why do females expect guys to be into fat females, but guys don't expect females to be into fat guys? ↗
Why can't she think she is beautiful? why can't others think she is beautiful? belive it or not but some men an women are into fat women. And even if every single person on this planet is not into fat girls, that doesn't mean she can't twerk if she wants to. Besides I had to watch jonah hills nacked ass on screen during the wolf of wall street so yes sometimes we are forced to see things we'd rather not see. but that doesn't mean only conventionally attractive people are allowed to dress howeveer they want.
Why can't you accept logical answers to your already-asked questions?
Her *ability* to be fat and unhealthy and shake her gross ass on TV is not at issue. "She can" is not a logical defense of illogical behavior. Like... what?
Your second comment regarding Jonah Hill is completely perfect, and exactly what I expected. Again, Why do females expect guys to be into fat females, but guys don't expect females to be into fat guys? ↗
my rhetorical question were a response to your assumption that she musst be lied to when someone tells her she is beautiful. She doesn't expect people to be into her. She is just living her live how she wants to live it. Did she ever say men should be attracted to her? And no one should expect someone to be attracted to them. No one is entitled to sex or sexual attraction. But Lizzo never even hinted that she expects that.
Um... yes, she does expect people to be into her. Apparently you don't... know who this person is that we're talking about. Lizzo in and of herself isn't the point, either-- she is merely one example of what we're talking about here, and is just the loudest, most recent example. For YEARS fat female celebrities have led other fat female non-celebrities astray with lies of "just love yourself, there's nothing wrong with you." My God, someone does not need to *explicitly say* something in order for it to be implied. Are you serious right now? If someone dresses in a thong and shakes their ass on live TV, *they want attention and are drawing attention to their body as something that should be seen as sexy.* They do not need to LITERALLY SAY "hey guys, pay attention to me I'm so sexy and hey girls, you should get fat like me because fat is beautiful." Fucking hell. Are you joking?
So in other words your whole point is based on assumptions about her and not actual facts. I'm sure there are women out there that expect men to be into them no matter how they look. Just like there are men who expect the same. But saying Lizzo or any other fat female celebrity expects men to be into her kis simply an assumption. But I agree with the attention part. But basically anyone posting a picture of themself online does it for attention. Otherwise they could've just keept it on their phone for themselves. And yes it's completly fine for her to think she is sexy. Is she supposed to dress in a potat. o sack cause she is fat? there's something called freedom of choice that most people value very much
So in other words you're just ignoring everything I said since you aren't able to refute any of it. Okay.
I actually answeared everything.
... No, it isn't "an assumption," you apparently aren't aware of what the term "implication" is; I suggest a dictionary. You're clearly beyond saving, here. I'm wasting my time.
anythink that was not proven yet is just an assumption
There's already way too many people on earth. We should all promote obesity. Maybe in 30 years there won't be as much traffic.
Uhh... that's not how that would pan out.
No, Lizzo isn't attractive. Maybe she is a good singer or something, I don't know.
She's alright. She's not worth all the accolades she's been getting.
Firstly she a black woman so she automatically ugly loud and mean and fat.
She just a fat girl overcompensating because nobody gave her attention n before and now people praised her a little bit so she ran with it
Nope, they're just promoting fat as attractive, which is in fact correct.
And as your poll option said, you are in fact wrong too.
That's nice sis.
The dislike because I disagree with you. Lmao.
I don't know what you're talking about, and I don't care that you disagree with me, "lmao." You're wrong. You disagreeing with me has nothing to do with it.
Riiiiggggghhhhhhttttt. Lmao.
Like we discussed earlier, fat is attractive, factually. Disagreement with a fact shows a lack of intelligence. I know you just posted that update to get feisty with people again, but it's something you'll always be wrong about regardless. Lmao.
You are clearly highly educated and have many interesting things to say. Please, tell us more.
That was pretty weak ad hominem. Lmao.
I... don't think you know what that term means, but, okay you're on a good start. What else?
Ad hominem essentially is attacking character instead of substance in an attempt to make yourself look smarter. The substance of course is a fact, so you can't argue it, so you went with a weak insult. It didn't work.
Insult? No no no, I'm acknowledging that you're clearly highly educated and have many interesting things to say. Please, tell us more.
You're using a very condescending and sarcastic tone dude, it's well read. Weak insult.
Mmm... that's fascinating, sis. Please continue.
There's nothing more to be said. Lmao.
Is this some lame-ass troll or something? Lmao.
Yes, lmao indeed. How many other 21st-century text abbreviations can you list? Omgwtfbbq?
Man dude weak. Lmao.
Girl sis weak. "Lmao," or whatever.
You're like getting trolled trying to troll, that's pretty funny. Lmao.
Girl sis weak. "Lmao." Or whatever.
Ooh he's now just copying the same thing, trying to show he's putting no effort in, after he stumbled for like 20 minutes. Lmao.
Oooh, maybe you should post some emojis. That's something smart people often do.
So like what's the substance I'm so to respond to here? The emoji thing is pretty random and pointless.
Is that you in your profile pic?
Where are your emojis? Your word usage lacks. Please, emojis. And no, it isn't; anonymity and all that.
Colony collapse disorder (CCD) is an abnormal phenomenon that occurs when the majority of worker bees in a honey bee colony disappear, leaving behind a queen, plenty of food, and a few nurse bees to care for the remaining immature bees.[1] While such disappearances have occurred sporadically throughout the history of apiculture, and have been known by various names (including disappearing disease, spring dwindle, May disease, autumn collapse, and fall dwindle disease),[2] the syndrome was renamed colony collapse disorder in late 2006[3] in conjunction with a drastic rise in reports of disappearances of western honey bee (Apis mellifera) colonies in North America.
What's with copy-pasting the wikipedia article mate? Seems kinda random to everything.
As we discussed in Chapter 8, Congress gave states 75% matching funds in 1962 to provide social services to existing or potential recipients of AFDC. Some states seemed unaware of the legislation or used the money only for traditional services, such as home visits to AFDC recipients, but discerning policy analysts in various states, including California, Oregon, Pennsylvania, and Washington, realized that they could use the funds to develop a range of programs. Furthermore, when a federal administrator who prized expansiveness replaced a cost-conscious one, the use of the funds increased dramatically; some state officials were allowed to use the funds for drug, mental health, public education, and even highway construction programs.
In 1972, the Nixon administration sought to place a ceiling on this runaway program. To protect the program and to counter HEW regulations that limited its services to persons currently receiving or applying for welfare, the Congress created Title XX of the Social Security Act, which allocated funds to states according to a prescribed formula for use-- with broad latitude by each state-- in programs to enhance individuals' ability to be self-supporting, family care or self-care, community-based care, or institutional care. The legis
Uh I'm not reading that.
(yawns) You're boring. Do better.
Bye.
Well, there's not much of a risk that she will ever be considered attractive.
Unfortunately people openly lie in real life and online all the time about her, and other obese female celebrities, being attractive.
For sure and it's disgusting
Yup.
You can find obesity attractive or anorexia attractive. There is nothing wrong with that, ad long as you realize it's not healthy.