Why Nice Guys Aren't--A Guide to the Games They Play (Page 2)

[Kauto_Star]

I've re-read your article (two and a half years). Admittedly some of the comments are true, Hasn't this occurred you to that women who say negative things about their boyfriends (albeit BEHIND HIS BACK) is CONNIVING! Also, any woman makes a false assertion such as "I wish my boyfriend was more like you." (when really they mean that he's a mangina) is a BAREFACED LIAR and THIEF. That's tantamount to promising to feed a starving person and cursing them behind their backs

[Kauto_Star]

Finally, having read articles like this now the Internet has recently become available. I realize how much I was mislead and how people have got it wrong. How would feel if you spent a long time in jail for a serious crime that you haven't commited. Education is the way forward and this what these guys need.

[Kauto_Star]

I love my mum and she loves me too. That said, as far as I'm concerned if ANY WOMAN who would want anything to with me vilifies her and needs to knocked down a peg or two. I understand not all women will be attracted to me. However, WHEN she is ASKED for a female's persective on it. And REFUSES to give an informative answer that I can chain on to ANOTHER WOMAN, then has sex with someone else is castrating me behind my back!

[Kauto_Star]

How many men do you know profess they "get any woman they want" and in truth they have NO IDEA how to get a date. The problem is people are very willing share things that they ignorant about. And unwilling to impart things that they are VERY KNOWLEDGABLE on.

Yes I'm hardcore single (I've accepted it). Gets my goat about this that there's a failure to address the 6 issues as a source of such 'protests'.

[Kauto_Star]

5) Some guys have medical / clinical conditions that was witheld from and wonder why they are getting a high quota negative feedback?

6) A lot of women communicate in contradictory and ambiguous ways. So if he is no wiser how do expect him to know.?

The rationale behind the "complain" and "whine" as you put it. Is that these men are DECLARING IGNORANCE. And that TAKES A BIG MAN TO ADMIT A SHORTFALL LIKE THAT! Check what the MEANING of the word COMPLAIN means.

[Kauto_Star]

I find your article very offensive. Some of it has some points. The crux of it is such claptrap.

Have you considered?

1) That these men have been MISEDUCATED and LIED to by women. And have been told negative and disempowering things in his lifetime.

2) Have you ever spoken negatively behind their back? (BE TRUTHFUL)

3) Women fake orgasm = SEXUAL MISEDUCATION

4) Through FEAR & PREJUDICE of women, men can get themselves into SERIOUS TROUBLE through talking a woman.

[Slayde]

I know, what I meant was that some readers might have been confused as to that point. I was simply clarifying. Anyway, I really like this article. It sheds some light on what I would consider a previously gray area.

[WeaponZero]

I never said there aren't genuinely nice guys. There's a reason I put "nice guys" in quotations. Because many guys wear that title like a label and abuse it. But yes Slayde, you bring up some good points.

[harveykinkle]

Beofox - the second we see you as a friend 95% of the time we won't see you as anything else... I know you want to get to know them first but DON'T BECOME FRIENDS! You can remain an acquaintance at best!

[Ic0raz0nSF321]

I second it, and I could see the differences between the nice guys and the actual nice guys. Just pay an extra attention unless you know this guy for a long time, then it is not that hard to not notice the game he plays on getting you.

[toulouse]

Why should I care,

If a guy is nice fine. if I like a guy I do not like him just because he is nice-seemingly. if I like a guy I want continue to hang around if he proves to be a jerk. common sense is all the warning I need.,

[Ibulet]

Kauto_Star, I've read your comments and you've pretty much proved that the articles description of these guys is spot on. You're desperately trying to shift the blame for your own behavior onto women, refusing to take responsibility for yourself and playing the victim (also all traits of a potential emotional abuser, by the way). Your comments show your complete lack of character. I'm glad you're single because a man like you would be a nightmare for any woman to be with.

[ManaX]

You sir, are a genius :).

I've seen this happen so many times but have never put the pieces together. I love studying behavior, It takes years to understand but I think you've got it!

[Beofox]

I'm sorry to but I have to disagree, look, I can't date a girl who I don't know, so I'd rather just be friends with her, if she puts me in the "friend zone" great, I can put her there too, but the thing is dating to people nowadays is just a game, like they just go and ask a girl out that they don't even know, I'm sorry but that relationship won't last. I like to study who I want to date, if she has a boyfriend I back off, I have to know she is not a B@#$h.

[candlewax]

There are far too many insecure guys on this site. You clearly made it a point to target specific "nice guys" and they immediately jumped on the defense. The point is over there, you missed it.

[monoXcide]

The fact that she is talking to you about her BOYFRIEND means you can automatically assume yourself in friend position because she has automatically assumed you as a friend. If she was interested in seeing other people AND interested in you, she wouldn't mention any other guy to begin with.

Taking second place isn't always a bad thing. Honestly be her friend. Friends help each other out. She needs a good listener and you need a good wingman....girls always make the best wingmen ;)

[Xenophobia]

Weapon Zero....I love you. lol JK This article is epic, bro. Thanks for writing it. The girls need to understand the big difference between a Nice vs. Genuine Guy

[WeaponZero]

Tex this article isn't about actual nice guys but so-called "nice guys" who delude themselves into thinking theyre nice when theyre really not. see the difference?

[NMMan]

Absolutely, 100% agree - for people to enjoy the rewards, they have to put forth the effort. I actually just wrote an article myself dedicated to that very principle - good job W.Z.

[WeaponZero]

There are true nice, decent guys out there. They're just not the ones you hear whining about the whole mess. Those guys are usually MNG like in the article.