But you are prone to health risk at 30. Also women chances of getting pregnant is reduced as they get older.
@Primrose21 Most babies birthed from 30 something yr olds come out fine. It is way overblown stigma that having kids in your 30s are gonna lead to autism etc. My parents had me in their 30s and all my siblings and I are fine. All my aunts and uncles had kids in their 30s, we are all fine. I don't get why people like to overblow things. Having kids In your late 30s , might increase the risk of problems. But early to mid 30s are completely fine.
@Primrose21 Almost all women are still fertile in their 30s. In fact , people are having kids later and later in life, especially millennials. Its wrong to have kids when your life is not even in order yet. Your child will only suffer along with you.
@nella965 it doesn't mean that it easily worked for your parents it would work for everyone. I know two women who gave birth to their first baby at 30plus. They did had a hard time conceiving and took them multiple visitations to the doctors. My aunts, OB had her also on regular monitoring coz she is old for her first baby. The other one took her 3yrs to be prego. My professor who is also 30plus is now asking for professional help coz she is having a hard time getting prego. You are lucky if you have it easy to have a first baby at 30. I also know someone who had a menopause at 25. She cried so hard and regretted the fact that she can't have a baby anymore.
To be prego to your 2nd, 3rd, 4th, ... baby at your 30's is fine. What's not ok is to be prego to your first baby at 30. That's what my aunts OB told her. More health issues may happened at 30. Coz you never know your body unless you tried to give birth. Some women do have high blood pressure while giving birth. Like my mother. I always wanted to have lots of siblings. But my mother can't coz everytime she gives birth her BP rises. So 32 is the last chance for her to give birth to my sister.
@Primrose21 You're talking about the rare types of people. How many people do you see go infertile at 30? Almost nobody. How many folks do you see hit menopause at 25? Almost none. These are uncommon. There are always gonna be strange people that aren't normal. Women are not made to go infertile at 30. Women go infertile at 40. I've seen some women even have kids in their 40s. In my city, most folks give birth in their 30s and there really isn't this overexaggerated stigma that women go infertile by 30. You would probably have a slower time conceiving in your 30s, but your chances of having a child is still HIGHLY possible. So many mothers around me gave birth in their 30s and their children are perfectly fine and healthy. All my parents and relatives also birthed in their 30s, so I refuse to believe that women can't have kids in their 30s.
@Primrose21 And as for your mother's BP rising after every birth, that is only a situation unique to her. Its a genetic issue thats likely passed down by her ancestors. My parents who birthed me in their 30s, never had this issue. I follow a couple of 30 something yr old mommy youtubers and I haven't seen 1 of them report any issues with their births. You really can't blame everything onto age. It could be genetic. In general, overwhelming majority of 30 something yr old women are still considered fertile and in good health. Its not until your late 30s, where the risk of birthing complications truly increases.
@nella965 it's up to if your liked to give birth to ur first baby at 30. But might as well talked to an OB doctor. I thought it is well thought at schools that the older you get the higher the risks. Actually some commented exactly the same in here. She is right. Baby deformities are also apparent when u give birth late. My professors also told me the same. I have a biology degree by the way. Planning to study medicine.Anyways... hope you the best in life. Chow.
@Primrose21 Of course birthing complications are gonna increase with age, but you're at risk only if you're in your late 30s. But overwhelming majority of the babies I've seen that are born to 30 yr old women are fine. You're just overexaggerating. And I would not trust an OB who tells me that I wouldn't be able to have a child at 30, because I know that's simply not true. I have seen many babies being born to moms in their 30s and have turned out completely fine.
You are right but there sure are downsides, increased risk or genetic mutations, it's harder for the woman to physically "bounce back" after a pregnancy and I sure would not like to be an old lady with a teenage child.
Actually it's highly not recommended to have a child over or beyond your 30s. It's already difficult for women in their 30s, waiting any later is asking for complications and disappointment over the lack of infertility.
@BlueScorpio Late 30s will have complications, not early 30s. I know tons of women who birthed perfectly healthy children in their 30s
www.webmd.com/.../autism-risk-rises-with-mothers-ageSure, if you're okay with a heightened risk of miscarriage and the child developing autism. Early 30s is still fine, but after 35 you shouldn't have kids in my opinion.
@devilman666 I think it’s after 36. Some people have kids at 38 and still have no issues. I’d rather have my baby when my life is together than unprepared.
And I’m also not gonna rush marriage just to have a baby in my 20s. Finding the right husband takes time. It would be stupid to have a baby with the wrong husband.
@nella965 I wholeheartedly agree with you. Anybody who's talking about health risks at 30 years old don't know anything about real health. If you're leading a healthy lifestyle, you wouldn't have health problems in your 30's or even 40's. But waiting beyond 30 does allow you to achieve more in life before settling down, like you said. These people who wants to have babies in their 20's are gonna be living double lives, which isn't the best for your children. Smh. But they think they're right. People don't know what they're talking about. It's all subjective.
@wmasters www.webmd.com/.../autism-risk-rises-with-mothers-age at 35 the risk of your child having autism is 30% higher than in your late 20s. At 40 it jumps 50% higher than your early 20s, and by 45 it's over 70% higher than it was in your late 20s. The risk rises quickly, and while I agree that waiting until your early 30s can be fine, but this idea thar there are no health risks, it's nonsense, the longer you wait after your 20s the riskier the pregnancy.
@devilman666 Risk does go up. But not certainly as high as you like to make of it. I was born to parents who birthed me in their 30s. All my cousins were birthed by 30 something yr old parents too. None of us are autistic. I've also seen a beloved teacher who quit her job at 36 to birth to a healthy baby girl. I really don't appreciate you exaggerating the risks. And don't think its only the females age that affects the baby's risk. Men who have kids over 40 can also have the same risks.
@wmasters What happens when you marry way too early in life is you end up eventually getting divorced. Soon your child will only see daddy twice a month. And worst of all, most people in their 20s do not have enough money or even have the mindset to devote the rest of their lives to their kids. Most people in their 20s want to enjoy time with friends, partying, exploring the world, taking their most desired cross country trip that they've always dreamed of, traveling. Once those kids come out, there's no chance you will be doing any of this. But just because you birthed in your 20s, it doesn't mean that child autism is not a possibility. It is also possible for 23 yr old parents to birth an autistic child too.
@nella965 I said early 30s is fine. Second, anecdotal evidence is nice but it proves nothing, for example, my mother drank while pregnant with me and I turned out fine, therefore drinking while pregnant doesn't cause issues!I'm not exaggerating the risks, I am reading them from a scientific website. Scientists have studied this and this is what the research says. At 25 it's 1.6 per 1000 children who get autism, at 40 its 4.4 per 1000 so it's still rare but it's an example of how age can negatively affect your child, we need to accept that age affects pregnancy in many ways and we need to try to have kids earlier in life. Yes, you can have children in your 30s, but it's not ideal. If you're having kids after you turn 40 then in my opinion you dont give a shit about the child, you just care about your own selfish desires. If you cared about the child then you wouldn't risk it's health like that, you would focus on having it earlier to reduce health risk.
@devilman666 Lol webMD. Did I not say real health?
Also, you're correct, older men result in a higher chance of autism, men shouldn't have children after 40 either.www.healthline.com/.../does-older-sperm-cause-autism
@wmasters do you have a better source that says something different? Go ahead an prove me wrong by finding the actual statistics?
Agreed. Divorce and separation is criminally more likely in early marriages/conception, which greatly affects the child.
@devilman666 You have a higher chance of birthing a perfectly healthy baby than an autistic child in your 30s. Risks don't start really starting coming apparent unless you're birthing in your late 30s. You're just exaggerating things. By the way, not all statistics are true. I've seen way too many false stats and information ranging from fbi website to FDA websites. There are a lot of biased researchers out there too.
@nella965 you say I over exaggerate? XDYes, early marriage has a higher risk of divorce but it's not 100% certain, some young marriages last. I do agree that you need to be careful marrying young because it is more likely to result in divorce, but it's not like you need to avoid marriage until 30."Soon your child will only see daddy twice a month" maybe if you only allow him weekend visitation, if you allow him proper visitation then this probably won't be an issue.Early 20 year olds sure, but I'm 23 and I feel ready to settle down, after 25 or 26 you should really focus on settling down, or give up on having kids. This idea that you can have a kid at any age is nonsense, next thing you know it's gunna be common for 50 year olds to have children.You can still travel with kids, you can still go out to parties if you hire a babysittern you can still enjoy time with friends, etc. Kids do not end your life, as long as you're responsible you can still live your life. This idea that you can live an enjoyable life once you have kids is nonsense.Yes, there is a chance if autism at any age, but according to scientists who study this, they find a higher risk the older you are.
@wmasters dont overexxaggerate it, it's almost 48% divorce rate at before 18 and by 25 they have a 24% lower chance of divorce and thus marrying at 25 and having kids at 28 is possible. This idea that waiting until 30s or 40s is necessary, it's bullshit that people tell themselves so that they don't feel pressured.
@nella965 how am I overexxaggerating? I am reading the statistics from a health website. Feel free to find statistics that prove my wrong, but don't tell me I'm iver exaggerating when I'm reading it straight from a website.So we just can't trust the statiatics because you don't like them? Sorry but that's not how statistics work. By that logic I can say that statistics around drunk driving are bullshit because I've driven drunk many times and never gotten into an accident. Anecdotal evidence is not evidence, there is a reason we use statistics, feel free to find another study ny dofferent researchers that shows different statistics, but don't just call me wrong with nothing to support you. That's bullshit.
@devilman666"Yes, early marriage has a higher risk of divorce but it's not 100% certain, some young marriages last."Its been proven that those that marry way too young do tend to divorce in their 30s. Someone actually told me a saying "Marry at 20, divorce at 30". Your 20s are the biggest growing periods or life transformations that you will ever have in your life. In your 20s, you're still developing in terms of life experience, maturity, personality. Very often people turn completely different people by the time they hit their 30s. This explains the high divorce rate for couples who marry young, which you do not want to admit. You have A MUCH HIGHER CHANCE OF DIVORCE getting married young. I do agree that you need to be careful marrying young because it is more likely to result in divorce, but it's not like you need to avoid marriage until 30."When you're 26, you're really not that old. Its just a mere 8 years since you left being a kid, not a very long time. On average , it takes dating at least 3-4 people until you find the right one. Limiting yourself to a couple of years of dating, really does not allow you enough time to search for the right one. Finding the right one takes time, you can't just insist 5 years would be enough. what if it isn't?"Soon your child will only see daddy twice a month" maybe if you only allow him weekend visitation, if you allow him proper visitation then this probably won't be an issue.Your children will not get to see their father everyday anymore. They will be missing for their real father. If you remarry, your kids will have to be forced to accept a fake dad. If you have new kids with this fake dad, these old kids will be forgotten.its also been proven that kids with divorced parents tend to suffer from more MENTAL ISSUES and be less successful in life. I have a friend who is exactly just like that. Its the reason why so many parents do not want to divorce.
@devilman666 “Early 20 year olds sure, but I'm 23 and I feel ready to settle down, after 25 or 26 you should really focus on settling down, or give up on having kids. This idea that you can have a kid at any age is nonsense, next thing you know it's gunna be common for 50 year olds to have children."Why don't you try to show some more wisdom? Settling down is not as easy as you say it is. You don't settle down by just saying "settle down". You may settle down with the wrong person if you don't take your time to find the right one. Your children will lose one of their parents.“You can still travel with kids, you can still go out to parties if you hire a babysittern you can still enjoy time with friends, etc. Kids do not end your life, as long as you're responsible you can still live your life. This idea that you can live an enjoyable life once you have kids is nonsense.”You can’t travel or party the same way as when you didn’t have kids. When you don’t have kids, you can party with friends ALL NIGHT LONG and drink because you can be hung over the next morning. When you have a child, you need to run back home to feed your baby and bathe it. Being a parent is a FULL TIME JOB. You can’t afford to be hung over the next morning. When you’re single and traveling, you can have the money to travel MUCH MORE frequently. You don’t need to WORRY about taking too long of a vacation because you need to rush back home for the kids. And how much would it cost to pay a babysitter for two weeks when you’re gone on vacation? Can most families afford that? Especially if they are BROKE parents in their 20s? NO
@devilman666 and If u ask around 25-26 yr olds If they want to get married at their age, the overwhelming majority of them will tell you : HELL NO!! People in their 20s want to enjoy their freedom before it’s over. There are some traditional folks like you who believe that people should marry as young as possible but you’re not gonna be happy. So many older folks who married too young complain about how much they have MISSED out on life.
Guys, chill out a bit, people will still have babies when they feel like it or when live happens and they have them, some will do it early and some late, there are pros and cons to both but no universal perfect time suitable for everyone.
@nella965 I'm jist about done here, you clearly only read half of what I type.www.wf-lawyers.com/divorce-statistics-and-facts/43. 48 percent of those who marry before the age of 18 are likely to divorce within 10 years, compared to 25 percent of those who marry after the age of 25.So you're okay with these statostics but not the ones that show health risks with pregnancy when you're older? Why don't you claim these statstics are fake? Why dont you claim the researchers are biased? You're only okay with facts/statistics that support what you already believed. After 25 the risk of divorce lowers substantially, so you dont have to wait until 30 to get married.You're dating in your early 20s though. Start dating at 20, have your fun, and start using it to look for a reliable partner. This idea that any marriage before 30 will fail is utter nonsense.More bullshit. You love spewing bullshit, huh? And I will gladly call this bullshit because you're now talking about my life. My mother divorced my father and I haven't spoke to him since I was 12. You can accept a new father, I don't say that just from my own experience but the experience of others I know as well. My cousin was adopted, my nephew also doesn't know his real father. What you are saying about growing up without a father and getting a "fake dad" and getting forgotten is nonsensical bullshit.And now you act like I'm saying you have to get married early and that is not what I'm saying. I agree that dovorce hurts the children and we need to avoid divorce if possible, but this idea that every marriage started before 30 will end in divorce is nonsense. You're just using this as an excuse so that you don't have to focus on marriage until 30.
@nella965 why dont you try to show some more wisdom? I understand it's not easy to settle down, but that doesn't mean it's okay to hold off on having children till your 50. You need to be realistic and accept the health risks rather than ignoring them.You can't travel or party the same way, true, but you can still travel and party. You're trying to act like children are the end of your life but they aren't. Yes, when you don't have kids you can be as irresponsible as you want... unless you have a job. When you're single you should be saving up for the future children you will have.So basically you just want to be irresponsible until your 30s?
@nella965 well if they don't want to get married then they choose not to have kids. Either continue your irresponsible life and give up on children, or stop being a child and grow up! It's your choice.
@morimeme1 I guess I can mostly agree with that, but I still hate this idea that it's okay to have kids in your 50s and 60s. There are physical risks that come with age and they can't just be ignored just because you think it'll be better for yourself to not get married early. You're risking your childs health for your own pleasure, and that shows me you don't really care about the child, and you never will. You only value the child through your own selfish desires.
@devilman666 "As of 2016, both marriage rates AND divorce rates in the US are decreasing. Recent studies have shown that millenials are choosing to wait longer to get married and staying married longer and are the main driver in the decline of both the marriage and divorce rate in the US."www.wf-lawyers.com/divorce-statistics-and-facts/2. "Marrying in your 20s is risky. Hewitt says under-25s who wed or live together are five times more likely to break up. “The parts of our brains that control our ability to think things over, not be reactive, not engage in risky behaviour, aren’t fully developed for a lot of people until their mid-20s,” she says. “And most people aren’t financially ready [to marry] before 25 — they’re completing schooling or entering work.”www.dailytelegraph.com.au/.../4431760263c3ca6fd56e12431922b5e03. "Millennials are causing the U. S. divorce rate to plummet, according to a Bloomberg News report. In fact, divorce is down 18 percent since the Great Recession. Young couples are looking at marriage differently. They are marrying later in life, waiting until after they have completed their education and have found a job. They are also being pickier about who they marry.Based on the data, Wilcox believes marriage is becoming more stable, and the adults who are entering marriage are more intentional about commitment. They don’t want to make the same mistake their parents often made at the height of the divorce revolution. firstthings.org/marriage-millennials-and-the-divorce-rate
@devilman666 "After 25 the risk of divorce lowers substantially, so you dont have to wait until 30 to get married. "Your brain doesn't fully become mature until you're at least 25. Prior to 25, your judgement ability is IMPAIRED. So you basically didn't know how to pick the right partner back then. And it actually takes a lot of dating experience to know what you need for a fulfilling relationship. "You're dating in your early 20s though. Start dating at 20, have your fun, and start using it to look for a reliable partner. This idea that any marriage before 30 will fail is utter nonsense."MOST GUYS AT 18-23 AREN'T TYPICALLY LOOKING FOR SERIOUS LONG TERM RELATIONSHIPS. Most of them are just looking for casual fun, fwbs, hookups, casual dating. Most guys at 23 are quite immature and prefer to PARTY rather than to stay home and take care of his girlfriend. And plus, if you're 23 and you still don't know that married parents can't travel like single folks. You don't understand that married folks can't have the same fun as single folks. You can't understand that most families can't afford to hire a babysitter for two weeks while they're out on vacation. You don't realize the huge impact of losing the chances to bond with dad: from getting to see dad everyday to seeing dad once a week. You also don't think its a huge deal when kids are forced to forget their biological fathers while having to accept their step fathers. YOU'RE ARE NOTHING MORE THAN JUST THE TYPICAL CLUELESS 23 YR OLD. YOU PROBABLY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT PARENTING IS LIKE. YOU DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND HOW BAD IT IS FOR YOUR KIDS TO LOSE THEIR FATHER OR MOTHER. YOU ACT AS IF SEEING DAD ONCE A WEEK GIVE YOUR KIDS A BETTER BOND. YOU OBVIOUSLY ARE CLUELESS AND I DO NOT THINK YOU WOULD HAVE THE MATURITY OR WISDOM TO BECOME A PARENT UNTIL AT LEAST 5 years FROM NOW. YOUNG PARENTS ARE IRREPONSIBLE AND CLUELESS, JUST LIKE YOU.
@devilman666 it is absolutely hilarious how you think you should get married in a few years when you clearly have no clue about parenting, no clue how families finances work. Most families would be lucky to afford vacation once a year, don’t even talk about hiring a nanny for two weeks. The last person I want raising my kids is you. I don’t see you to be at the level of maturity and knowledge to be getting married or raising kids anytime soon.
@nella965 wow, you really like to assume things about me, huh? Well you're only 25 so you dont know any more than I do on these topics, wait till you're in your 30s and have kids, then you can talk like yoh know about these things. I don't mean that by the way, I just want to show how stupid it is to act like I know nothing about parenthood because I am young. If I know nothing then you are the same."Just a typical clueless 23 year old." Lol."You dont realize the hige impact of losing the chances to bond with dad" alright, I am officially done with this bullshit. Have fun lying to yourself, cause I'm tired of your efusing to read my arguments and then calling me stupid. I GREW UP WITHOUT A FATHER FOR FUCK SAKE, I know the impact better than most people! DO DONT YOU DARE ACT LIKE I DON'T KNOW THE IMPACT OF DIVORCE!!!"You also dont think its a huge deal when kids are forced to forget their biological fathers while having to accept their step fathers", tbh if you said this to my face I'd knock you the fuck out. This is utter bullshit and pisses me off more than you can imagine. You just lied about what I said, YOU FUCKING CUNT ASS BITCH! Fucking liar, fucking trying to make me look like a bad person who thinks children should be seperated from their fathers.YOU'RE JUST SOME DUMB BITCH WHO WANTS TO BE IRRESPONSIBLE! YOU CALLME CLUELESS YET YOU LECTURE ME ON WHAT IT'S LIKE TO LOSE A FATHER? BITCH PLEASE, I BET YOUR PARENTS ARE STILL HAPPILY MARRIED AND YOU HAD AN EASY FUCKING LIFE. I GREW UP WITHOUT A FATHER, I GREW UP HATING MYSELF AND BEING ISOLATED, SO FUCK YOU, YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ME, YET YOU ACT LIKE I LIVED THE SAME EASY LIFE YOU DID. FUCK YOU!!!
@nella965 yeah well you're just a lying ass bitch, it's hilarious how you think that having a child at 50 years old is perfectly fine. *sarcasm*You're a clueless bitch. It's funny how you think you know how family finances work, also how you generalize all families. Some families make enough to have multiple vacations every year. Some familes barely make enough to eat. It depends on the family, so stop acting like you know everything.
I wasn't being sarcastic about the lying ass bitch part. You are a lying ass bitch. You lied about me, and you continuously act like a bitch just because you know you're wrong but you refuse to accept it.
Women younger than 18 have higher chances of complications and death for the woman and/or the child. Women older than 30 have lower fertility rates and a higher chance of miscarriage, further, their child has an increased risk of the child developing a disorder like autism or down syndrome. After 40 this chance is 50% higher than it was before the age of 29.I'm not saying you need to have a child in your 20s, but the research seems to show that your 20s is the optimal time for your body and child.
www.webmd.com/.../autism-risk-rises-with-mothers-ageBiological issues are a factor, before age 18 the risk of death/complication for the mother and/or child is heightened. After 40 your fertility is low and your chance of miscarriage is high, the chance of the child getting autism is 70% higher than it was at age 29
I didn't find the before ahe 18 result, I may just be too tired. However I see that this stat is based on one hospital in California. It would be interesting to have proper statistics based on other nations with different climate, health, food culture.
There have been many studies done, you can look more of them up online if you wish. Overall the trend is the same even if the numbers vary, before the body is fully developed it (so younger than 18) causes higher risks to the mother and child, older than 35ish and the fertility drops, risk of miscarriage rises, risk of autism rises, etc.
what do you define fully developed? fertility is fully developed around 15-16 of age, in average. the rest of the body development won't stop at all. I am 35 and still developing.
I personally put it at 18 because some women take an extra year or two, teenage women also tend to have a higher chance of premature birth.
I see. I would say women around age 22-24 are at their biological peak, but for me it's just a feeling. I think nature helps with the right hormones at the right time.
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@devilman666 Some of this is the health of the woman too. And there are tests to take that tell you the health of your baby. I got pregnant in 3 months at 38. Delivered my son on his due date after 7 hours of labor. First and only time. Stats are one thing. My family history: mom had two healthy babies, her sister three. All natural births. Had him at home, no drugs with midwife. Yet my 24 year old mom had a miscarriage of her second child.. Third was the charm: me!. Optimal time varies with a number of factors.
@screenwriter yeah, you got lucky, so what? Anecdotes are nice but they dont tell the full story, for example, my mother drank alcohol while pregnant with me, before she knew she was pregnant. I turned out fine, does that mean that drinking alcohol isn't a risk factor in having a child?Yes, you still have the chance of miscarriage during your 20s, but the risk is higher as you get older.www.medicalnewstoday.com/.../322634.phpUnder 35 years old: 15 percent chance of pregnancy lossBetween 35–45 years old: Between 20 and 35 percent chance of pregnancy lossOver 45 years old: About a 50 percent chance of pregnancy lossI agree that there are a number of factors, I'm just trying to point out the factors that make me think that 18-29 is the optimal age range for a woman to have a child.
by the way why did you exlude the ages 19 and 29, what's wrong with them 😅
I like that you added “mentally, emotionally” since I think yea you could have all the money in the but that still doesn’t prepare you to be parent sometimes
Yeah, I surprisingly know a thing or two about parenting. LolIt's not only for the child, but also for the parents. If you're not emotionally and mentally ready, you both ruin the upbringing of the child and you destroy your own mental state. My dad has mental health issues because of his reckless and stupid actions after I was born and let me l
Oh fuck, accidently hit send. LolLet me tell you, it's not something you'd wanna go through. Not as a parent, not as a kiddo. Lol
Yea like i always wanted my kids spaced 2 years apart. I wanted to start 23 then have another 25 then 27 then 29. But now its looking like 25 27 or 26 and 28. Im not trying to keep birthing after 31
i have never thought of it - but it could be why teenagers rebel. Biology disagrees with adult bs and lies about 'how things should be' (yet you see end to end they are nothing like that)
Not true at all, teenage women have a higher chance of complications and death for the mother and/or the child.www.nhs.uk/.../www.webmd.com/.../teen-pregnancy-medical-risks-and-realities
it's the only way to afford it and get the right amount of sleep at the same time
Good luck :)
So if you win the lottery at age 14, should you have a child right away? What abojt if you're in your 70s and you feel finally you are financially stable enough?
Not when you're 14, that's just poor life decisions
EhhhhhI guess, if her spirit is mature and at that level that would be ideal