Do you think a woman who wears shapewear like corsets, spanx, skims, etc. is creating a falsehood to others about the way she looks?

[Anonymous]

Yes

No

[CheeseMonster]

People know these things exist. If someone sees a person and automatically thinks she looks exactly like her outline without clothes on, well that's on them. They take the risk of being right or wrong as soon as they make assumptions. Personally I don't think about what anyone looks like without clothes on. That's not my business.

Adults presumably understand how bodies work and that other adults may—like they may—choose to wear certain things to alter their appearance either slightly or greatly. It's not witchcraft. It's not lying. It's using a product that is publicly available for its advertised purpose. It's not false because everybody knows those products are an option. You aren't saying "i look like this naked" you're saying "I look like this dressed like this."

It's not a woman's responsibility to tell everyone every peice of clothes she's wearing just so they can more accurately guess what she looks like naked. Again that's just, on whoever wants to make those guesses. Kinda weird in my opinion. Even weirder to be upset that you could potentially be wrong because she doesn't tell you about her undergarments..

[quaranta]

Yes, I mean those items are meant to change your original shape, so technically you are hiding it and you do that on purpose when you go out of home so it's not something "with yourself" only. But that isn't so morally wrong because a woman walking around is not constantly looking for a relationship with any potential person she talks with, and she is not supposed to be constantly meant as dating material to be socially acceptable. The only context where this is questionable is during a date or in a context where most likely someone is going to start dating (clubs, parties etc), but that is the same as makeup, bra, shaving. So I think nobody is going to question that very much afterall, we all know women are very likely to not look genuine so it's something men are already used to from decades, although some of them might value genuinity as a plus because it speaks about her confidence and personality.

[AmyHew1tt]

I've never felt comfortable with shapewear, or makeup for that reason. Not that I blame or really judge women who do, but I don't like deceiving myself or other people. If someone says I'm beautiful while I'm wearing a full face of make-up and shapewear under my clothes, I'm not going to feel like I can take that compliment. I'm also trying to come to the acceptance that it's okay to wear a dress and not have a totally flat stomach.

That said, I love wearing corsets, especially vintage-style ones, simply for the fashion and aesthetics. But I wear them over my clothes, so they're obviously seen. And while it makes a slight difference to my waist and stomach, it's not so extreme that anyone would be surprised when I take it off.

[D_Bone_Steak]

I think so. My wife told me what some of the chicks I thought was hawt as fuck actually look like naked and I believe her (She works a job where they get naked together every day). I've banged a few chicks and once they were naked... they didn't look as good as they did in the yoga pants that smashed that bullet-wounded-looking ass together. I still remember one chick that actually looked like she had scars in the sides of her hips. I don't even know what that is. I rubbed my hands across it and it felt as hard as scars. Another chick's sexy thick thighs looked like cottage cheese naked. Those yoga pants are lies.

They wear this tight stuff that smashes it together and they're lies. Like... I can't be the only dude that's hooked up with chicks that you'd think had the firmest looking titties ever... then naked... orangutan titties. The damn things would be slapping me in the face as she rode me.

Lies I tell you. Everything from the eyelashes, nails, and even their skin covers a big zitted up face that looks like a pizza. They even fake their height with high heel shoes. Bunch of fake women.

Really wish I could go back to the early 80's when chicks had a 6-pack abs and it was just a thing. I really don't mind smaller titties.

Look at this chick licking pussy... it's just hot and she'll be hawt for many more years than the floppy boobs and yoga pants destroying 18-year-olds that try to call themselves thicc instead of fat. No... they have diabetus and they can't run very fast.

[TrueConfection]

No. How is that any different than wearing a bra or swimsuit? How about tight jeans? What about wearing baggy clothing? Women are not under obligation to show everything they have or don't have to the entire public.

If a man isn't earning 6 figures, is he creating a falsehood by driving a luxury car?

[SnowedIn]

THIS. Exactly this.

[TrueConfection]

@SnowedIn Thanks

[hahahmm]

That depends. Instances were I think shapewear is okay:

1.) A woman could have a 'perfect' body but when she puts on certain clothes her body shape then looks wrong/sloppy. Adding shape wear simply gives her the same shape with clothes than without.

2.) She is only doing minor/slight modification to her body shape. But she is not going from having zero hips to having hips or from having a huge gut to having zero gut. Think of it like coins... if I clean a coin so it's not dirty that's fine. If I dip a copper coin in gold paint and say it's gold that's not okay.

It used to be that almost 100% of women wore shapewear. And those women were already (usually) in good shape. So wearing it isn't inherently bad/false. More like it's a female thing to use tricks to enhance looks. But there's a line... if you the guy thinks you look totally different in shapewear than out and you used it to get him that's wrong.

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[hahahmm]

It's only really an issue if she's enters into a relationship with a guy who was deceived by her into thinking she had a shape she really didn't. I never had a problem with women using shape stuff as long as it wasn't overboard (like I say above). If you're not getting with the guy it doesn't matter if you weigh 500 pounds but somehow found magic undies to make yourself look 110-160.

[Stoner710]

Kinda, but I understand women trying to make themselves look more beautiful, I would prefer this kind of fakeness vs plastic surgery fakeness at least I can have the sexual attraction first (which is why men approach women in the first place) but as I get to know you the course at spandex, skims doesn’t matter In the end because at least it’s real beyond clothing and not actually fake which is plastic surgery.

personally, I look forward to finding the beautiful woman I meant to be with and growing old with her and watching her grow old as I grow old and is dying if not together but being buried together

[Anonymous]

No not at all. I think wearing shapewear makes a woman feel more confident in the clothes she’s wearing. Maybe she has a little bit of extra weight in her midsection and wants to wear her favorite dress. All shapewear does is contain the area make her appear slightly smaller. Yes she’s trying to appear thinner but I don’t think shapewear is deceiving. I’m a size 12 and I wear it if I want to wear my favorite dress because it just makes me feel better in said dress. It’s not like I’m going to look like a size 5 after putting it on. Same goes for makeup. Why do we wear it? Because it makes us feel beautiful and makes us feel good. Why do some men have beards? Because they might like how they look. Now if they shave they might look completely different but it’s not deceiving in my opinion.

[loveslongnails]

If something significantly alters your appearance, how could the answer be "no", whether it's shapewear, excessive make-up, fake lashes, extensions, or whatever? The key word here is "significantly", so here's my simple definition:

If the SUM TOTAL of your enhancements/shapewear makes me find you physically attractive (approachable) ONLY with them ON, but I would NOT find you physically attractive (approachable) with them OFF, then you've significantly altered your presentation.

Please keep this in mind when you bash me in the comments, but that's my guideline :)

[suzzieQ]

You mean like pretty much all clothing as well as facial hair?

[loveslongnails]

@suzzieQ No, ALL clothing doesn't "significantly" alter your appearance. Not even close. Make-up alone can do that, and "some" clothing can do that, but definitely not ALL clothing. For example, yoga pants don't lie. LOL Or when I see a woman in a simple sundress who is at most wearing a no-show bra and panties, that's not going to give me a false impression. Neither will shorts and a tank top.

Facial hair can definitely give a misleading impression, but it works both ways on a guy.

[suzzieQ]

Well I guess if you are just wearing underwear it doesn't but if you wear normal clothing it does. Covering up the majority of your body significantly changes your appearance for sure. If you're the one getting false impressions over what people wear maybe you should adjust your expectations lol. Let's be real, if you can't see what underneath is, then you are assuming you know, which means you are just making a bunch of assumptions. Clothing doesn't lie or tell the truth its just clothing, just like hair, make up, or a tan.
The issue here isn't how people choose to groom themselves or what they wear, sounds like the issue is you making assumptions about other people's bodies.

[EmmaMary]

I'm probably going to go against the grain in saying this, for I've always believed that women who do this are deluding themselves in trying to be something they're not.

Just imagine the disappointment they must feel when they remove such items.

[Pegases]

Obviously she is. It's just that it's so socially acceptable for women to wear make up, and other body enhancing tools, that most women utilize them. But If a man had fake genitals, or waist trainer that made it look like he had a six pack with a shirt on, and then he takes it off and it's a belly, that same level of disappointment you'd feel is the same level of disappointment a man would feel. We often just don't say anything because we don't want to hurt your feelings.

[suzzieQ]

It is also socially acceptable for men to wear make up, pretty much every man on TV wears make up. There is no waist trainer that make a man look like he has a 6 pack... so thats an odd comparison

[Pegases]

@suzzieQ lol TV? Really? Thats the hill you want to die on? 🤣 cut it out. Women wear make up on a regular basis, not just on TV. Which is why we don't see the everyday man with a dresser full of make up products like we do women. Nor do we see make up advertised for men.. Cut it out. and the fact that a there is no product that can alter the appearance of a man physical features like there are for women, is precisely the point. One is socially acceptable, one isn't.

[Pegases]

@suzzieQ no hard feelings kid. I had no idea you were 15.

[suzzieQ]

I’ve seen makeup advertised for men. There certainly is. Haha

[Dana223]

I would not look at it that way. It's like, you wear a hat if you don't like the way your hair looks like. Or you wear makeups. Look. I also aim to look, dress and act like a bossy lady. I ride cross bike. Yet, day to day i deal with incontinence, since forever. Is it wrong to develop a cool, easy going self image if in reality i wear diapers?

[Telekinetic-Potato]

Out of all the things women do to themselves to be superficial or whatever I can see how for what to a man is really a slight change, those things could probably be a major confidence boost to men.

They don't make unfit women look fit, at least not to the eye of someone who goes around saying "fat women are gross" so I feel like they're fair play.

Kinda like when I wear my v-neck that goes down the perfect amount where it's not too much.

[Capricornunicorn92]

I personally would not wear it because I want my s/o or potential guy to see what I have from the jump. I don't want any surprises and guys usually don't wear shapewear so why should we?

My boyfriend has a bit of a stomach and I love it. Nothing wrong with having a bit of stomach (as long as you're healthy/at a healthy weight). Media has totally warped how we should see healthy bodies.

[Adaeva]

Since the 1600s women have worn corsets, to help shape their body. It is not like people don't know that is what women do; therefore, they are not really creating a false impression.

[OlderAndWiser]

A guy styles his hair in a certain way, uses after-shave, wears certain clothes, etc., all designed to create the maximum impact with his appearance. Does that create a falsehood?

[Bricealan]

No because I usually stuff a large athletic sock in my pants to try to influence a first date? Then again, they always ask if I "have a sock in my pants, or am just glad to see 'em"

[Heterosketero]

No, marketing is. If nobody has noticed, a little excess weight is becoming more attractive after years of skinny hungry and pouty. Eat a Snickers Pesci, Christ..

[thegreenyogi]

Not if the reason why she wears them is because she genuinely enjoys wearing them and because they're more comfortable and because they make her feel sexier.

[Alwayreckles93]

I don't see anything wrong. For a reason it's called a waist trainer. It helps mold your body. I've used them all the time.

[sheenagwapa]

i wear one. i wear it for myself not for other people. now if other people see it differently that's their problem not mine

[Jendcheuebc]

No. I am 120 pounds and 5’9” and even I wear shape wear because we all still have just a little things here and there we want to conceal.

[Wade12345]

Yes, plus it's pointless, she has got to take that off for sex and shower and stuf, so the guy knows what her real shape is anyway.