I don't think anybody is out of anybody's league. I used to think the league system was real, until I got with a guy who was objectively way more attractive than me. Turns out that though I was just as ''out of his league'' as I did about him.
simply because he/she felt in love... cause love have nothing to do with race , appearance, financials, religions... if you are like that... you are materialistic , where i live people like this are not respected
@lezarafe No okay lets try another example. Say you have a sister, she is a good girl, doesn't drink, is virgin, fears God. Does she deserve to marry a man who is an alcoholic? one whos been with multiple different women? doesn't care about God at all? She is out of his league, he doesn't deserve her.. simple as that right?
Iezarafe that is a far too romanticized concept. The real world isn't like that. A body builder like that would never fall in love with a 400 pound woman.
for me when a girl sais i am out of your league means that i do not have enough money for her or i do look like as she wants... my sister would not be dumb to marry someone like this , there is a big difference between out of league and not deserving that good hearted person... right?
@lezarafe I don't think she meant that it's impossible for a 400 pound guy to get together with a fit woman, but rather that it's unlikely that it will happen.
And to be honest, I agree with her. It takes a lot of discipline and effort to keep hitting the gym (almost) every day. I think it's more than fair that she'd prefer to not be with someone who is 400 pounds.
@GuyWannaHelp... i am a body builder 6 times gym a week... my girlfriend is fat and i love her why am i different than her? simply because my girlfriend is a nice and carring person and fun to talk to and i enjoy every single date with her
@lezarafe Yeah good for you, best of luck to both of you. But still you are staying in good health, she is neglecting herself. Dont you fear for her health at all? wouldn't you rather her to be a healthy weight?
Yeah, but HOW fat is she? And if you are not conventionally attractive then your options would be limited to a fat woman. And is she actually fat? Or is she a healthy weight and is just big?
I understand all 3 of your stances, and I don't really disagree. However I feel the need to interject. I'm aware of leagues, always having been the fat kid. And still am really fat. I happen to be a bit over 400 pounds because of an eating disorder stemming from childhood traumas. However, I grew up on farm land and am very strong, with my build people guess that I'm around 280-320 pounds. At 6'1" tall. As far my health, due to a car wreck years ago I've has many doctors appointments and tests and labs done and to this day the doctor I see at the time is confused by the fact that my blood sugar, blood pressure, and cholesterol are exceptional, better than theirs in fact. I work full time, do calisthenics several days a week, yet I'm seen as unhealthy and neglecting myself simply because of a number on a scale, keep in mind binge eating disorder is real. So leagues absolutely do exist. The reason, in my humble opinion, is closed mindedness.
No not for me. A persons stature I don't believe makes them out of your league or not. My boyfriend thought he was "Out of my league" cause his family is poor with nothing to their name, while my family are just just under wealthy with past ownerships and runnings of businesses. Personally, as long as the people are compatible and work well together thats all that matters, a persons league shouldn't define their abilities.
Nope,. it's only in your mind. I've dated some very beautiful women and they are almost unanimous in what they say about why the like particular guys. The first thing has always been a sense o humor. The other first thing- no second since it addresses a different motivation is, like most people, they dislike stinginess or neediness
I do think so. But its not just about looks. I'd say that's that's one of the less important things. You can go a long way with confidence.
I would say the primary key factor here is lifestyle+class, life experience, and confidence. Looks gets you in at first, but you need to have your shit together and be near or as equally confident and successful as the other person in my opinion
Whenever I find a guy really hot I don't think I am out of his league. I think that I don't picture myself dating him. If I ever date someone, I will hold him to a high regard that I hold myself to. I won't be insecure and feel lower than him. That's unattractive.
I feel more like @pearlos says- I stopped thinking that much about meeting that “special someone” and I figure I will meet her when I least expect it. So I just remain open to that possibility and go about my everyday life- there are NO leagues- it’s all just us.
I believe in leagues in real life but not online. What's online could be easily faked. Even in real life I'm pointing at people who don't wear make up. Make up changes a lot, an average female could turn into an attractive female in an instant.
I've had moments where I thought "would she like me?" but never an outright she's out of my league thought. More curiosity. Most of the time I'm curious if I'll like them, rather than the other way around. There are a lot of pretty looking women who are a pain in the ass to be around. I always try to keep that in mind.
In school, everyone plays into the popularity game, thinking that 'leagues' exist. But once you get older, select your own friends based on who you enjoy being around the most. The popular kids are smoking a pack of cigs a day to get through the stress of parenthood, and the loners have flourished. You realise that everyone is in the same league, looks aren't the main factor behind successful relationships, and it's all about finding someone that you're compatible with.
All I'll say is that most of the people who think others can't match their league are women, while a lot of guys tend to think a woman is out of his league. Ego tends to be the problem, and women have that more often, feeling certain that they're good enough for most men.
@guyasef Actually the polls line up with what I'm saying. Most women agree that someone can be out of your league because they're thinking of themselves and how they think most men can't match them. Most men agree that someone can be out of your league because they're thinking of themselves and how they feel like a lot of women are beyond them.
I've think I've been in that trap for quite some time I always go for the ones I know I can get rather than risk it on someone who I might actually like but I'm always like they're either gay or in a relationship, or would never view me as attractive
You just need to stand out as unique and girls will be dying to know more about you. So, leagues won't matter then, because you would be in a different league where no one else will be. But you probably won't have any luck if you are a shit person from inside.
Yes. If you’re a homeless wreck on the street, you shouldn’t expect to score a date with someone with a successful life. It’s an extreme example I know but it’s still true😂
The concept of leages exists for a reason. But it doesn't apply to everyone, or every situation. You can see this in that money allows rather unattractive people to date models, ust as an example. But also there are always those who are attractive, and are attracted to less traditional standards of atractiveness. In cases like that, having a good self image and enough confidence are far more important
I think it exist in someone mind that they could not be together. I think its a more easy way to deal with being to afraid or not want to try to start a conversation with them fearing they get rejected
Yes. All girls are out of my lead. I'm so ugly that the only girls I think I deserve are the 1s I'm completely not attracted to... either fat n ugly or retarded or have some kind of disability like down syndrome. .. so because of this reason I choose to be single and probably will be forever haha
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I don't think anybody is out of anybody's league. I used to think the league system was real, until I got with a guy who was objectively way more attractive than me. Turns out that though I was just as ''out of his league'' as I did about him.
Yeah its possible definitely,
For example if someone goes to the gym everyday.. why would they marry someone who is 400 pounds?
simply because he/she felt in love... cause love have nothing to do with race , appearance, financials, religions... if you are like that... you are materialistic , where i live people like this are not respected
@lezarafe
No okay lets try another example.
Say you have a sister, she is a good girl, doesn't drink, is virgin, fears God.
Does she deserve to marry a man who is an alcoholic? one whos been with multiple different women? doesn't care about God at all? She is out of his league, he doesn't deserve her.. simple as that right?
Iezarafe that is a far too romanticized concept. The real world isn't like that. A body builder like that would never fall in love with a 400 pound woman.
for me when a girl sais i am out of your league means that i do not have enough money for her or i do look like as she wants... my sister would not be dumb to marry someone like this , there is a big difference between out of league and not deserving that good hearted person... right?
@lezarafe I don't think she meant that it's impossible for a 400 pound guy to get together with a fit woman, but rather that it's unlikely that it will happen.
And to be honest, I agree with her. It takes a lot of discipline and effort to keep hitting the gym (almost) every day. I think it's more than fair that she'd prefer to not be with someone who is 400 pounds.
@GuyWannaHelp... i am a body builder 6 times gym a week... my girlfriend is fat and i love her why am i different than her? simply because my girlfriend is a nice and carring person and fun to talk to and i enjoy every single date with her
so it does not work for me anyway we are all humans after all fat or skinny ones are humans to that deserves to be treaten like the sexy ones :)
@lezarafe
Yeah good for you, best of luck to both of you.
But still you are staying in good health, she is neglecting herself.
Dont you fear for her health at all? wouldn't you rather her to be a healthy weight?
Yeah, but HOW fat is she? And if you are not conventionally attractive then your options would be limited to a fat woman. And is she actually fat? Or is she a healthy weight and is just big?
i am her man i can help her... she started gym cause of me last month... she already lost 6 kilos
i did not ask her to... it was her decision tho
I understand all 3 of your stances, and I don't really disagree. However I feel the need to interject. I'm aware of leagues, always having been the fat kid. And still am really fat. I happen to be a bit over 400 pounds because of an eating disorder stemming from childhood traumas. However, I grew up on farm land and am very strong, with my build people guess that I'm around 280-320 pounds. At 6'1" tall. As far my health, due to a car wreck years ago I've has many doctors appointments and tests and labs done and to this day the doctor I see at the time is confused by the fact that my blood sugar, blood pressure, and cholesterol are exceptional, better than theirs in fact. I work full time, do calisthenics several days a week, yet I'm seen as unhealthy and neglecting myself simply because of a number on a scale, keep in mind binge eating disorder is real. So leagues absolutely do exist. The reason, in my humble opinion, is closed mindedness.
True Fluffy. Keep up the calisthenics, some say that is the healthiest for of resistance training.
They like to lift heavy things?
There is some dumb stereo types that hollywood push on teens.
Like :
smart people can't be good looking.
Smart people aren't good at sports
Popular kids are Rich
Social outcasts are Poor.
Being average b-/c+ student thats ok at sport is failing.
Facial hair peircings tattoos make you a bad person
And of course
"shes out of your league" but only coz you dont try coz you think she is... but if she's who you like just talk to her
Well said
I don't believe in leagues. I believe in compatibility.
No not for me. A persons stature I don't believe makes them out of your league or not. My boyfriend thought he was "Out of my league" cause his family is poor with nothing to their name, while my family are just just under wealthy with past ownerships and runnings of businesses. Personally, as long as the people are compatible and work well together thats all that matters, a persons league shouldn't define their abilities.
Nope,. it's only in your mind. I've dated some very beautiful women and they are almost unanimous in what they say about why the like particular guys. The first thing has always been a sense o humor. The other first thing- no second since it addresses a different motivation is, like most people, they dislike stinginess or neediness
I do think so. But its not just about looks. I'd say that's that's one of the less important things. You can go a long way with confidence.
I would say the primary key factor here is lifestyle+class, life experience, and confidence. Looks gets you in at first, but you need to have your shit together and be near or as equally confident and successful as the other person in my opinion
Whenever I find a guy really hot I don't think I am out of his league. I think that I don't picture myself dating him. If I ever date someone, I will hold him to a high regard that I hold myself to. I won't be insecure and feel lower than him. That's unattractive.
I feel more like @pearlos says- I stopped thinking that much about meeting that “special someone” and I figure I will meet her when I least expect it. So I just remain open to that possibility and go about my everyday life- there are NO leagues- it’s all just us.
I believe in leagues in real life but not online. What's online could be easily faked. Even in real life I'm pointing at people who don't wear make up. Make up changes a lot, an average female could turn into an attractive female in an instant.
I've had moments where I thought "would she like me?" but never an outright she's out of my league thought. More curiosity. Most of the time I'm curious if I'll like them, rather than the other way around. There are a lot of pretty looking women who are a pain in the ass to be around. I always try to keep that in mind.
In school, everyone plays into the popularity game, thinking that 'leagues' exist. But once you get older, select your own friends based on who you enjoy being around the most. The popular kids are smoking a pack of cigs a day to get through the stress of parenthood, and the loners have flourished. You realise that everyone is in the same league, looks aren't the main factor behind successful relationships, and it's all about finding someone that you're compatible with.
All I'll say is that most of the people who think others can't match their league are women, while a lot of guys tend to think a woman is out of his league. Ego tends to be the problem, and women have that more often, feeling certain that they're good enough for most men.
The polls seem to show something different, right? I
@guyasef Actually the polls line up with what I'm saying. Most women agree that someone can be out of your league because they're thinking of themselves and how they think most men can't match them. Most men agree that someone can be out of your league because they're thinking of themselves and how they feel like a lot of women are beyond them.
I've think I've been in that trap for quite some time I always go for the ones I know I can get rather than risk it on someone who I might actually like but I'm always like they're either gay or in a relationship, or would never view me as attractive
You just need to stand out as unique and girls will be dying to know more about you. So, leagues won't matter then, because you would be in a different league where no one else will be. But you probably won't have any luck if you are a shit person from inside.
I've never met a woman that is out of my league, maybe having that very mindset is why.
Yes. If you’re a homeless wreck on the street, you shouldn’t expect to score a date with someone with a successful life.
It’s an extreme example I know but it’s still true😂
The concept of leages exists for a reason. But it doesn't apply to everyone, or every situation. You can see this in that money allows rather unattractive people to date models, ust as an example. But also there are always those who are attractive, and are attracted to less traditional standards of atractiveness. In cases like that, having a good self image and enough confidence are far more important
I think it exist in someone mind that they could not be together. I think its a more easy way to deal with being to afraid or not want to try to start a conversation with them fearing they get rejected
Yes. All girls are out of my lead. I'm so ugly that the only girls I think I deserve are the 1s I'm completely not attracted to... either fat n ugly or retarded or have some kind of disability like down syndrome. .. so because of this reason I choose to be single and probably will be forever haha