girl, i know how you feel. i've noticed an interesting pattern. the sluttier i dress, the more men pay attention to me. when i dress a bit more modestly and professionally, i am almost invisible. when i dress more sexy, suddenly every guy i walk past is interested. i have some days when i feel i am ugly as shit. those days are days when i don't feel like dressing like a slut. ugh. most men complain about slutty women, and yet those are the women they run to most of the time. i don't like to dress provocatively. i don't like to show my ass or my boobs because not only do hot men in their 20s stare, but also the 60 year old grandpas. yikes. i do wear tight clothes though like tights and skinny jeans and sometimes crop tops. lol. when i wear tight clothes with a crop top is when i get the most amount of attention from hot men. when i wear a normal shirt (a cute one but not showing boobies or bellies) with normal jeans, maybe 1 or 2 guys look at me. so gals, to find a husband, we must show as much booby and butt as possible. ok, i know i am generalizing and it's not true for all men, but for most.
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Being gawked at isn't nearly the same as a man being interested, men can easily separate sex and love.
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+1 yI’m curious. If you post a tinder up how many matches you get in a day? Because if I wait a week I’m lucky to see 3. What you’ll see in a day I’ll see in a month on dating apps. That don’t guarantee quality but as you know ratings a numbers game and while the dick pics are men looking to smash men get the same in the form of cam requests.
I believe as a woman it’s far easier to get laid. I believe as a woman who can read people and pick good men it’s far easier to get a good partner even if it don’t end in marriage.
Things are harder now because women screaming about the things they like like strong men stepping up to help. Holding the doors a sin. Talking to them when in the stores basically harassment. Women don’t wanna get in the kitchen and make him a sandwich because it’s somehow a bad thing. Men don’t wanna ask because if she claims assault the possibility’s real you’ll go to jail as a man. Men don’t see women as a good option anymore so they don’t have to grow up. They don’t have to improve because without a family or women as a goal they can sit home playing Xbox as much as they want and never put in effort. Neither men or women care to be what each other want so both sides are seeing huge decreases in the quality of dating partners.
I myself will not marry even though nothing would make me happier than having a good wife and children. I’ve personally been falsely accused of sexual assault in jr high. I’ve also been yelled at for holding the door. You think these things don’t happen and then they do.41 Reply- +1 y
Condolences bro I’m praying for us all
Well I think it's because it's guys they're starting the conversation maybe so like with you what you're saying is if you were not Anonymous and I can send you a message I would have to say would you like to flirt is that how obviously I have to be so I'm asking you would you like to flirt LOL send me a message. Answer your question I have gotten a couple of invitations to start from girls on here but the sad part is is that probably 25% a girls profiles are really guys on here so not unless they can prove it with her voice or something I won't do it you should add me as a friend and I would make it obvious for you and make it good then I want to flirt I would like to sit with you
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A lot of men get zero women initiating anything with them. And that's not merely just that they are not desirable. It's the, even today, prevailing social custom that men approach, and women hang back and wait.
Whatever your personal experience, it doesn't equal a pattern. In the whole, women have more options, more chances to say 'no' then men probably ever will.140 Reply
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+1 yConfidence and Kindness attract more attention than beauty, guys won’t hit on you if they believe you are unobtainable so being good looking doesn’t always increase your prospects by a large margin but if your kind and considerate as well as attractive and friendly, you will get hit on more.
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u +1 yMaking unfounded assumptions about women helps butthurt guys to feel sorry for themselves and blame women rather than accepting responsibility for their personal failures.
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Hate to break it to you but the world isn’t the one you grew up in anymore. Maybe your personal failings kept you single, but statistically women don’t find nearly 85% of men even averagely attractive.
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@OlderAndWiser Yes, @DeltaCharlieEcho is correct. Women are very, very different from your day, even from my day. Women and their core licentious behaviour is something beyond what you and I could have imagined when we were young men. Modern women are a total disaster.
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@KrakenAttackin Thanks for acknowledging it. Pretty soon the tides are going to turn, women are going to resist it but they're going to lose every stride they've made in the next 20 years because the experiment failed. In the course of 20 years it has virtually destroyed America and we might lose our country to the Chinese, if it happens, we know exactly who to blame for it. And I'll laugh all the way to my CCP slave labor job.
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@DeltaCharlieEcho So 85% of the young guys never find a girlfriend?
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I’m not playing a game here old timer. Most millennial women will end up dying alone; most millennial men that keep treating will end up with way younger women.
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@DeltaCharlieEcho yuppers, too bad Mandarin is such a hard fucking language.
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@OlderAndWiser. It's about "hookup culture" where girls have no sexual filter or impulse control. The "go girl" and YOLO (You Only Live Once) backdrop has given modern women an excuse to give away (actually throw away) their most valuable asset --- their sensuality. When women act like men they become less attractive to men. What (heterosexual) man wants another masculine personality as a partner?
When a guy day dreams about his ideal girlfriend/wife, he doesn't think " I hope she's slept with 100 guys before me, has loads of tattoos and piercings, is definable as an alcoholic by any shrink, smokes pot, dresses like she works the front desk at a Turkish whorehouse, and is incapable of bonding with any man"; but this is what modern women have become.
Women, through "equality", have made them selves miserable, the most miserable women have ever been in recorded history. What is the path back to sanity for women? I guess like an addict, modern women have to hit rock bottom, contemplate their lives, and decide to make fundamental changes. Some of my efforts on GAG are to try to be an "intervention" of sorts to get younger women to think about their own virtue and gifts and how to best use them to be happy in the long term, not just Friday night. - +1 y
@ronaldo75 I've dealt with older and wiser before, he's not a simp, he's just not privy to the realities facing younger men in the dating world today. He's a product of a bygone age and like my parents and grandparents, they'll never be able to comprehend the reality of society as it applies to my generation or the younger.
+1 yBecause back in the day I did an experiment, and posted a "catfish" ad with a random picture of a woman I found on the internet. I specifically picked a picture of a woman who was not overly pretty, just an average looking woman.
I got something like 20 responses within 48 hours.
Compare that to a male posting an ad, where if he gets one or two responses in a week, that's pretty impressive. The only ones getting more than that have to be GQ model level looks.
It's not an assumption, it's a provable fact.41 Reply- +1 y
Here's something relevant to this question that just happened today. I bought a drone so I signed up to a drone operator forum. Here's a screenshot from the page where new users introduce themselves. Note the average numbers on views and responses... from 0 to a dozen or so. Until you get to the user that identifies as "New girl" on her post: over 700 views and 50 replies. It's irrefutable.
https://imgur.com/a/rXgfEfY
+1 yIt's mostly women who put themselves out there more and in a more 'sexy' or flat out provocative way that get A LOT of romantic offers (you mean romantic interest). In real life, it's often going out to parties or any type of event that includes groups of men and women interacting with each other. Social media is also a big one. If you're even slightly good looking and know how to post pictures, you will get men flocking to you.
Online dating is the biggest one of them all. Plenty of experiments and stats clearly showing that women have it far easier than men and have a whole menu to pick from. Any average woman has it far better than the average men when it comes to online dating.
Do keep in mind that just because it's not happening to you, that men's "assumption" (which is actually is not) isn't valid. Because men speak about women generally, they don't talk about you specifically.30 Reply
+1 yBecause they do? A good number of men go through life without even being noticed. Women get good attention and they get bad attention, but they get attention. Men live lonely stoic lives.
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Asker+1 yThat is true. I think every woman has had to deal with at least bad attention like cat calling.
+1 yIf this is what you’re looking to hear, what most people want is pretty messed up. I saw only one guy write a long meaningful answer here and it’s just sad. The truth is not so pretty. Again so what most people want is very bad, how is a good girl that does the right thing to stand a chance against the crowd? She will not fit in, her life will turn to shit, and she will get no dates. And you can see this happening on all levels in every society, especially with men. Although a very attractive guy gets probably even more attention, the whole thing is messed up at the end of the day it’s a big fuckfest and maybe some hormones which usually are also seriously damaged as well.
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+1 yIt's true , and by a huge margin too. Several factors at work. Numbers , there are more men than women everywhere , birth ratio is male heavy. Add to that far more women than men choose to totally shun the opposite gender , most single women are single entirely by choice. Most women prefer the company of their own gender. Also , women are less attracted to men , than vice versa & are far less sexually driven. Hypothetically , if all men lost interest in women as anything other than platonic friends , there would be way more women celebrating , than commiserating. Even below average women complain about too much male attention.
00 ReplyAccording to numerous experiments & studies, women get more attention in online dating than men. How can we explain you not getting offers? Maybe you don't act like a whore. The whorish women get the most responses. I guess that in general women are better at whoring.
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Asker+1 yI certainly do not act like a whore. I don’t even like the idea of casual sex
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Asker. I am glad to hear that.
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+1 yBecause evolution says men have a bigger desire to mate, hence are less pickier.
I can see where you're coming from — you mean most guys love sex and would fuck anything that moves. That's true.21 Reply
Asker+1 yExactly
I've never gotten any romantic experience without giving it first. I've never been flirted with without flirting first. Am I not good enough to get it first or is it just a my job as a male to give it first?
That's why I assume women get more romantic interaction than men. You women never were interested in me without me being interested in you first. You suck at flirting, well I don't care I want one of you to try. I won't care if you're good the fact you are trying would make me feel better about where this man stands in this world. Just to know I'm worth the be flirted with.00 Reply
+1 yBecause facts dont lie. Example: A group of attractive men and women are in line outside of a night club. Which gender would they let in first? you're asking this from a position of privilege, those that have it dont really see it. Never ceases to amaze me how women are disingenuous about their love for attention.
20 ReplyIt's not an assumption. Just look at online dating... A normal average guy might get five likes and maybe two offers to meet for a date.
Women get about 20-200 likes a day, and she only responds back to a few. And I have female friends who complain that they get too many likes and D pics.20 Reply
+1 yBecause we know their inboxes constantly get blown up, compared to men who get less than 10(if even that). Granted most of the messages women get are from toxic horny dudes that send unsolicited dick picks, hookup offers, dudes that objectify women, and creepy dudes. Toxic or not offers are still offers are still offers. It also doesn't help we live in a society that sexulizes women with people who grew up to it being the norm and don't think twice about it.
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+1 yWhy? Here is a simple experiment that answers you that:
1 - Register one male, one female account on any dating app of your liking
2 - Insert an average looking male or female and just a basic profile. Nothing fancy, but nothing empty, either.
3 - Wait 2 weeks and compare how many messages each side gets.30 Reply
+1 yMy one cousin finally found someone decent, and is getting married. She almost gave up, after dozens of hits from thirsty buzzards who all saw her only as a sex outlet.
When I had a POF account, I got maybe four messages from a gal ever. One of them messaged just to be a bully. I blocked that bitch. Ignorant blondes thinking they can bully me? I had enough of that horsecrap in grade school.10 Reply
+1 yThat's easy! Because the really do get more romantic offers than men do 🤷♂️.
Just go out and see it your self, it's everywhere. A woman does not dress up to look fine so she can flirt with a guy, oh no, they don't. She dresses to draws attention from other males/guys/men so they would approach her. That is just fact.10 Reply
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yBecause you don't walk in the shoes of an average guy. If you are looking at maybe the top 10% of men, yeah they get interest. But with women being more passive, and women having less overall interest in men, it means the average guy gets very little attention (romantically).
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+1 yWomen are known to be "the masters" of romance. They love the kissing, cuddling & affection. Men on the other hand are more reserved, and aren't into sharing emotions as well as their feelings (for the most part). Women are more affectionate, and I think this has to do with the love and nurturing they hold to care for a baby, as well as children in general. There is a low popularity of men who want to share feelings and get romantic. Women are more into that avenue than most men.
00 ReplyAre you introverted? Or quiet? I am.
It happened more for me after age 25. After I was taken lol. I think I grew into my looks and myself more and adopted the abundance and high value mindset that men tend to find attractive in a woman.
Attracting men and romantic offers with your looks is one thing, but attracting them with your attitude and sense of self is another.00 Reply
+1 yI am the exact same way. You need to be pretty direct with me when you flirt.
But too your point, I think what it is is that most guys will ask almost every woman he can find for a date, and so the girls just have to say no, so if you add up all the guys then it will assume to be that you guys get asked out a lot.00 Reply
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yI know not all females get hit on everyday by men. They might have the bad luck of not being attractive. However there are some very rare cases where the girl is extremely attractive and intimidating. There was a girl I very briefly dated in college like this. She was the hottest girl i ever met in my life. I would see her in the gym but I didn’t approach her because I thought she was way out of my league. One day she introduced herself when I was next to her on the cable machine.
Anyway that all turned into a total nightmare later but that’s another story.02 Reply- +1 y
Come on man! You can't end the story like that.😄
Opinion Owner+1 y@The-Wise-Phoenix I had zero game back then and completely fucked it up. She did like me but I overpursued and got friendzoned. Farthest I got was a kiss on the lips.
+1 yits much easier for women to get sex if she wants to,
but its much easier for men to get relationship if he wants to (assuming he already slept with the woman)... So if "romantic offers" mean relationship offers, then OP statement is false. If "romantic offers" means sexual offers, then its true00 ReplyWe do though, at least that’s been my experience. It’s because girls are on the whole the “choosers” whilst guys are the ones to ask girls out first.
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+1 yAre you on a dating app? Women get 100x or more messages then guys do, at least older guys. Young women are much more likely to message a guy then an older woman is.
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+1 yBecause men are still mostly doing the asking. I can count how many times a woman has initiated on one hand and its doesn't fill it up. So if men ask much more frequently its fairly safe to assume that women are the recipients far more than the romantic pursuer.
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+1 yIm not sure it about volume as much as what people do with the offer. Im a great guy, I dont need any second opinions on that but I've been turned down hundreds of times and maybe got 1-2 women who were just genuinely friendly and open. I think a lot of women think its their job to "weed" the males. Very narcissistic if they think that.
10 ReplyWhen was the last time you witnessed or heard of women asking men out en masse? If your answer is either never or close to never, then by definition women do and will get more romantic and sexual offers than men.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yBecause they do. On average, women do get more romantic offers than men do. WAY more! That is just a fact.
As always, men are expected to be the ones to pursue and approach women. Despite all the efforts by women to abolish gender roles, when it comes to the ones that actually benefit women, like this one, nothing much has changed, and I doubt it ever will. Same as it ever was.20 Reply
+1 yBecause the majority of women don't ask men out. They let the men ask, they wonder why he won't ask her out, she is trying to send signals.
Men have to approach women and ask women out. That is the way life works.10 Reply- 673 opinions shared on Flirting topic.
+1 yAs many as women. The truth is, like you say, some are just better at it than others.
I was always clueless - there were always tons of women dropping hints - I just didn't get it. Now I know EXACTLY what they're doing. LOL32 Reply- +1 y
@hahahmm - WAY. Much less costly as well.
Women ask why men ghost them. Well, there are a lot of reasons, but primarily, if she's at all mentally unstable, which many are - stats to prove it - she's liable to stalk you, feign pregnancy, show up at your work, spam your social media accounts, call your friends, even claim you raped her. Yeah, she can change her mind - her god-given right to do so.
And really, whatever the reasons for the relationship failures, they've likely already been discussed ad infinitem - beaten to death. There's no point in going over them anymore. Just GTFO.
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yBecause its true. All one has to do is look at the statistics on dating sites. The average woman will receive 100+ messages per day, Men on the other hand will be lucky to get 1 or 2 responses per month.. And will only get more if they are incredibly hot or rich.
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+1 yA few reasons (highly generalized).
I think men tend to be a little more driven to find mates.
Women who don't want to risk rejection can just fall back on letting the man ask.
Men are a little more clueless and forward.00 Reply
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yBecause women have big ego's. You could ask a dozen out buy them flowers really woo the. But if you ain't the right guy it just doesn't count in her book. It's like it never happened. This is one of the reasons I don't ask women out anymore. If she wants me she knows where I am. If she'd rather choose another guy for that reason that's fine to. I'm sure it'll work put... like all her previous relationships. 🤣
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+1 yBecause its true lol
It's an aggregated average of course, individuals may vary30 ReplyCause they do.
Are you telling me no one has ever asked you if you are dtf?14 Reply
Asker+1 yI have been asked out on dates but I have never been asked if I were ‘dtf’?
+1 yBecause women and girls tend to be more shy and timid, or more traditional of “he should court me”. Women and girls get approached, hit on and messaged far moreeeee often then guys/men.
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Asker+1 yOk true
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I once saw a guy in the bar get a swift kick in the balls for asking out a girl, care to explain that lol
I guess it is because when a guy is asking a girl out, he can sense a minimum of five guys want her too😀
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+1 yBecause most straight men conflict the idea of "romantic offers" with sexual offers.
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+1 yThey assume that because its true!!
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yIf they mean "creeps who only want to use them for sex" they'd be correct.
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yeah, where are all the creepy ladies who just want to use us for sex? XD lol
Because men usually don't get any. If you don't count spam. Whatever she get is bound to be larger.
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+1 yBecause for the most part they do lol.
Traditionally men are the ones are expected to initiate everything11 Reply
Asker+1 yThat is true
+1 yMany women pose as if they do to establish the 'fact' they are much desired, to extract effort from any man that may be interested.
It is on the wane now, but the previous 10-20 years were full of primadonas00 Reply
+1 yIt’s not an assumption, it’s a statistical normality.
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+1 yI see you just like to use your anecdotes and experiences or basing it with what you have seen to validate your claim. What you have seen doesn't make up the majority of women who actually get more romantic offers than the average men
00 ReplyBecause men do almost all approaching. How can you no figure this out on your own?
00 ReplyBecause women often do get more Romantic offers. Have you ever seen the nightmare that is online dating?
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Asker+1 yI don’t know what it is like to online date for men
Asker+1 yOk… but how come some average guys do have succes online? Not trying to disprove your point, just wondering
Because it’s been scientifically proven, and not just because you don’t experience it, doesn’t mean it’s not happening.
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Asker+1 yI am not just talking about my own experience, but also the experiences of the women around me. Sometimes it seems like a lot of guys assume that ALL women get dates or romantic gestures ALL the time. Yes a lot of women get more romantic gestures than men and if you look at history nine times out of ten it is the guy that makes the first move but that does not mean that ALL women get dates ALL the time.
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Only compared to men, if you go on tinder or a dating app you’ll get 90% of your matches. Because guys don’t even look at a girls profile we just swipe right. While girls read you profile and take there time. So yeah when compared to men girls have way more options. We sleep with who we can and you guys sleep with who you want to.
Nah, women don't. I noticed that guys are shy around hot girls and just stare at them and subtly flirt but not too direct.
00 ReplyBecause it's not an assumption. It's true. How exactly are you even asking this?
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+1 ybecause it’s true for the most part, women don’t really have to talk their way into get sex for the most part like men do
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+1 yIts much more probable depending on their life style and where they go. Less women will ask out the guy of course so.
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+1 yAre you fat and ugly? That's the only explanation I can think of.
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Asker+1 yNope and I am not saying that I don’t get offers. I am saying that I don’t get as many offers as guys might think. But like I said in my post I am also the worst when it comes to picking up flirting hints.
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yBecause women never ask us out... We have to do all the asking.
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Asker+1 yOk that is true
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yBecause women normally do. In your case men most likely don't find you attractive
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yBecause they do...
You not realizing that people are interested is not the same as not getting offers.20 Reply
+1 yCuz women always talk about getting romantic offers, maybe it's just you
00 Reply456 opinions shared on Flirting topic. Thats a lie there is a such thing as simps all over who want romantic dates with any women and theyre tons of simps out there all over
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yIt’s true online with dating apps at least but women are the ones that get approached not usually men
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+1 yYeah in reality so many women are married to a man who doesn’t make a lot of money and struggle raising their child. And if she is pretty, they only offer for sex.
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