Today at the grocery store I saw very beautiful girl with a lovely smile , wanted to say you are beautiful to her but got scared thought she might see that as harassment , Im not the best looking guy out there
Was my thoughts wrong?
Today at the grocery store I saw very beautiful girl with a lovely smile , wanted to say you are beautiful to her but got scared thought she might see that as harassment , Im not the best looking guy out there
Was my thoughts wrong?
I don't do anything like that at all, I'm a very nervous guy nowadays as a nerd who's very wise now and every year I get older, to just not risk such things, no matter how they may seem as innocent, but I'm just expressing my own views and no advice. I'm just talking about myself here about myself, I don't talk to strange women except professionally and I don't do anything, no matter how small, that could be misconstrued afterward or in future. A man has to be careful nowadays and I'm that man to be careful, so others do what they do, but I for one stick to myself and if I wanted to compliment someone, I'd wait until it was a woman on a dating app who selected me, not I selected them and they expressed interest in me first, unless, unless, it's a scammer, which is probably would be on an app potentially. Ha.
So I'm happily single. And I don't mind staying single. It's better than court or a jail cell, I tell myself often 😅😅 as a nerdy slightly paranoid guy I am. And who could disagree with my lack of approaching women nor even complimenting women. Uh uh.
We you update asker your question to state you're going to be a wiser man and not approach/not compliment stranger women or any woman unsolicited unasked etc. Ah well. I for one know I don't for my own safety, because nowadays even with any gender, everyone nowadays is judgmental and quick to escalate, yikes. Scary scary, so I keep to myself, I don't flirt with anyone, and that way I keep out of court and a good citizen. 😌😁
*typo: *will you update (should have been written) my typo.
If you're an ugly man yes if you're a hot attractive man with confidence no.
Dang... just wrote the same comment and was about to hit the post button when I saw this. Exactly right.
Exactly! From Chad, it's a welcomed comment. From an unattractive guy, it's almost rape.
@JamesRandiDebates you’re not to familiar with the concept of consent are you?
@Subarugirl Non sequitur much?
@Subarugirl Consent may be black and white, but the person giving it doesn't need to follow the same rules. There have been many cases where consent was given, then the night afterward a Police report has been filed. I've seen the same at work countless times with men losing jobs or being questioned by HR. A simple compliment that appears to be well received, even when verbally followed up in a positive way... can become something else the next day or week. Thus it's safer to simply give zero compliments and / or attention.
@Truthatanycost consent can’t be revoked at any time no means no and stop means stop. It’s not that complicated
@Subarugirl I'm talking about when consent is given and they say yes, but at a later date they make an allegation. You saying 'consent cannot be revoked and that no means no' is missing the other side. There have been cases where men and women have both clearly consented (even on CCTV footage) and at a later date an allegation has been made.
As I said, consent is black and white, but the person giving it is not always so...
@Truthatanycost actually it is. Looks like you don’t have an issue with consent you just have an issue with liars, just like everyone else
A person who says such nice things to a girl is not ugly. He got a beautiful character.
@HippieVeganJewslim Ted Buddy also said nice things to women
@Subarugirl I think you meant to say consent Can be revoked at any time. And I agree I dont think its that complicated.
@Vegasrunner Yes, thank you that is what I meant. lol And yeah its really not that complicated
It's definitely not harassment. Anyone that thinks it is, is typically either a feminazi or a misogynist. Normal people think hitting on either gender isn't harassment. It would only step into harassment if the man or woman asks them to stop and they don't or make it physical. However, you have to be careful as people are allowed to have opinions and voice them.. flirting included 😜
Too many people (women in particular) have lied about men "harassing" them or falsely claiming abuse for attention. This needs to stop. Flirting is a great behaviour of social interest and interaction. It's often necessary by those who are single. I say, flirt more and be upfront like the man most woman want. Don't listen to the loud and annoying feminazis that speak over the voices of normal women that adore men. ❤️
I like how you say it's not harassment, but then go onto say that some women will object.
Let's be honest, if she gets offended, the cops will come, rost, and potentially arrest the guy for treating her badly. Regardless if warranted or not.
There are guys getting the cops after them for just being helpful. There is a lot of scared. women who are scared they will be attacked at any moment by a toxic male.
@Qdbrown it's only harassment after the person objects AND they continue. How would you define harrassment? However, I think that absolutely does NOT warrant a 911 call. Personally I see nothing wrong with catcalling at all.
Obviously if you re-read my opinion you will see I do not support women doing that and advocate for men in many of those cases.
There are women that have been truly raped before that are scared but it still doesn't make it right for them to call the cops on a guy for being nice or hitting on her so long as he doesn't cross the line and get physical or abusive after she objects.
I hate the phrase "toxic male". There are truly toxic people, but for me what is considered toxic by a lot of today's women I typically consider them attractive.
@ question owner:
I see your update and have a response. If you choose to not flirt don't complain about being single or women not hitting on you. Lol
That's a very small price to pay to safe guard a career or your own freedom. I stopped approaching women and flirting long ago. Being single just means more freedom...
@Truthatanycost whatever works for you
Judging by the Mark Pence rule, it works for many...
@Truthatanycost I assume you mean Mike and he is married, not single. In which I highly respect his rules
Yes, the rule was named after him. Both single and married men follow it but there was some debate about negative impacts for career mentor-ship.
@Truthatanycost I know many married men follow his rules out of respect for their wives, not putting themselves in a tempting situations, or because of some women that lie and cry sexual assault. I can understand all of these reasons to abide by those rules. I know few single men that only follow those rules because they think all women will falsely accuse them of something. I can understand but at the same time that would be like me thinking all men are rapists (which is wrong) and refusing to work with them, promote them, etc. I can see some valid points on both sides with the mentorship but I personally have a very strong rule of always being professional in the workplace so I will always place merit over gender. I do see your point about mentorship but typically in those situations the mentorship is mutually agreed upon. Many times it is created naturally. But of course merit should matter over gender in the workplace. If there is someone able to a mentor of the same gender or someone can be in the room I see no issue if that is needed, but for the smaller companies and a man wants to abide by those rules, that's a tough situation considering not all women are sleezy and will cross the professional line. It's complex and every situation is different.
As for singles out of the workplace, I don't think flirting or complimenting is sexual harassment.
I think more men should speak up about women crossing the professional line just as women do about men. Companies should have strict sexual harassment policies and enforce them.
Unfortunately this may not discourage some men or women from harassing others but it should be enforced. Companies should be careful to not hold back a deserving employee based on gender. So again, it's a tough one
It is not harassment, she would prob. appreciate it, but it depends how you say it and how she takes it, what mood she is in etc. As an example of how it can get a little awkward, I had this happen once at a grocery store and then he and I happened to be the only two people leaving the store at the same time (it was night) and our cars happened to be close to each other so I am there walking at night in a somewhat dark parking lot alone w him, you might say my fear was irrational, nothing happened, but I was nervous. Most of the time when I get compliments like that I like it tho, actually I enjoyed the compliment itself before it led to that moment of being nervous later. JMO!
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No it’s not harassment to give someone a complement. It’s harassment if you keep bothering someone who doesn’t want to be bothered.
If you want to give someone a complement just do it. MOST people would take it the right way. A small percentage of people wouldn’t but they’re the ones with the problem and not worth your time
Isn't this a situational driven concern? If one is in the workplace then yes it is harassment according to HR. If not calling one by proper chosen pronouns is harassment then "hey beautiful" would seem to be too. In a bar and like environments a "wow, you're stunning seem appropriate. NOT an HR expert...
Only if she's not attracted to you. LOL
In most sane places around the world, a single comment "in passing" would not be considered harassment, even if the comment was unasked for. HOWEVER... when you think about doing that, ask yourself "why" - what is my motive, my intent, my purpose. I think you'll find, if you're a guy, that 99% of the time it's because YOU want her ATTENTION and nothing more.
In my opinion, the vast majority of beautiful, or hot women, already know they're hot. You adding to that and thinking it's a compliment isn't going to phase them one bit. My advice is just enjoy the view and keep going, especially these days. If it were my grandparents time, it would be a different story.
Wow this is was so spot on, thank you so much
Thanks. It's something most guys don't think about or want to admit, even if they have!
It's not harassment. Believe it or not, even if you don't look like a model, most girls will actually appreciate a none-sexual compliment like being called beautiful. She might be awkward or shy, but as long as you don't force yourself on her and keep a respectful distance then there isn't a single problem with it.
I sometimes have people, never men though, who compliment my hair and ask to touch it, and that makes me extremely uncomfortable. As long as you respect boundaries, compliments can make someone's day.
Depends entirely on how you deliver it.
You may approach her and say something like "hey I have been meaning to tell you this for a while and don't take me wrong, but I think you're really beautiful." You see, for most women being approached by any man, even when very charismatic is scary because there are plenty of stories out there of how harmless interactions with a man eventually led to some gruesome crime. It's not that we want to be rude to men or anything, but it's purely a matter of putting our own safety first for most women so even if someone is creeped out or uninterested, I urge you to not take it personally.
There are designated places where approaching someone isn't a bad thing at all, and yes I am talking about bars and clubs. I've been approached and complimented by men who don't necessarily look like movie stars, but they had good disposition and behaved very politely so I didn't feel uncomfortable at all when they complimented me.
I've given a stranger or two compliments in the past when I couldn't resist to say something about it.
I'd just give her the compliment and just walk away.
Example1: "Excuse me. I just honestly wanted you to know that you have a beautiful smile. You have a great day."... and walk away.
Example2: "Hello. I'm in a bit of a hurry but I had to quickly stop to tell you that your perfume smells delightful. Gotta go now. You have a beautiful day."... and walk away.
Don't stick around enough to let her feel that she HAS to respond or that you're trying to get something back from her.
If (for whatever reason) she'd have the need to engage or something, she can call u back, follow you, or whatever.
But at least she won't feel threatened.
Don't consider what I wrote as a law. It's just my experience so far.
Perhaps I haven't ran into anyone yet looking to sue a guy who just gave them a compliment.
Shouldn’t the Example2 be used only for romantic partners?
@HippieVeganJewslim maybe.
The times I've given a woman a compliment it was really meant as it is. Without any futher meaning behind her. Just to let get that affirmation that she's beautiful.
If I were to go for a romantic aproach I'd tend to be more cautious, simply cuz normally I tend to be shy/introvert. Saying something to a total stranger is actually some kind of self-therapy that I do. Stepping out of my comfort zone.
Try to take comments from men more seriously than from women, because men know better when it comes to such situations. We have experienced them first hand and we can tell you what the Reality truly is. If you are a 7 on a scale 1-10, your compliment would be more than appreciated, heck man, you might even get lucky, but if you are a 6 or below, watch out, she might think of you as a creep and if a man is below 4, he might fright her and things might turn ugly for him real fast.
And how would you react if a man approached you randomly and told you, that he though you were very attractive? Lol
@Subarugirl I would tell him Thank You Very Much. Your compliment is much appreciated 😁.
Believe it or not you made a good decision. Doing that does nothing for you and only provides her w/ additional attention, and yes if you're not attractive she could easily see that as harrasment. If you're going up to her w/ the intention of getting something for you then it makes sense but just to say something corny like that, you're better off not saying anything at all.
I saw a man asked to leave a bar simply because he said "Hi" to a female. If I don't know her generally I do not make comments to her. This is a motto I have lived by now for many years. I have invited females sitting alone to join our group, but that is the limit. I know I am a cynical asshole. Being arrested because of a false claim made by a wack job tends to make you cynical. REMEMBER the definition of harassment is her choice.
It depends on how you do it... If you just come up to me and say "I'm sorry, but I couldn't help but to stop and tell you that your smile brightened my day." And then walked away, Id feel on top of the world... If you expected that that compliment entitled you to an hour long conversation and my number, that could lead into harassment.
Funny thing is, if I saw you again a day or so later and you casually said hello, you'd probably get my number.
Here's the truth of the matter... it IS "harassment" IF she feels like accusing you and making your life miserable. Unfortunately, today there are a lot of feminists and bitter women with pent up anger just looking for a man whose life they can ruin. You made the right decision.
Well the truth of the matter is that harassment is aggressive pressure or intimidation.
@Subarugirl That would be correct if only fair and rational minds were involved, but unfortunately that is often not the case these days. A woman can take offence or perceive a threat when none is intended, and an innocent man can get in trouble. Happens all the time. I just became aware of another case today of a man who was fired from his job for exactly that reason. Literally EVERYONE knows the guy a great guy and meant no harm, and the woman is a complete man-hating bitch with a chip on her shoulder looking for a victim, but she threatened to file suit if he was not terminated, and she got her way. It literally happens every day.
So does sexual assault. Somone in the United States is sexually assaulted about every 68 seconds. People often think that about someone before they really know what happened. Everyone thought my grandfather was a great guy... until they found out he liked little girls.
Everyone though Brock Turner was a great guy...
@Subarugirl My mom is the VP of HR at the company, so I know all of the actual facts for this case, and many others she has shared with my brother and me. She is a mother who cares about her sons and wants us to know the realities men face in the workplace today. It's fucking scary.
Yes, sexual assaults (real ones) do happen often. They are never excusable, but society is well aware of them, acknowledges them and condemns them. The same cannot be said for false or exaggerated accusations that destroys men's lives and careers unjustly. It happens far more often that most people realize.
Fortunately, the guy I mentioned was only out of work for four months before he found another job with a competitor because he was fortunate enough to be well known in the industry. But not all falsely accused men are so lucky. I know of one through my mom who committed suicide as a result of a false accusation, and the fallout in his career and personal life. Most cases are not that extreme but there are many men whose lives are turned upside down due to false or exaggerated accusations. The guy I mentioned got off easier than many, but he still had to deal with the trauma and legal issues he faced, and I'm sure he has something on his record that will haunt him.
Society needs to be made more aware of what is actually happening, and it's a shame people like you continue to deny it, or respond with things like "yeah, but what about women?".
would have you MHO but gag made this question popular a day after i already gave it to others but thanks for this video will saved it and show it some friends
If you are hot, it is not harassment, if you are not hot, it is harassment.
Lolol
I would tell her 'You seem like the kind of girl that makes most guys feel a lack of confidence. I, on the other hand, expect to be worshiped. So, do yourself a favor and take a picture of me, go home and build an altar, and pray to me.'
Which religion are you, comrade?
If that’s all you said no, if she didn’t like your remarks and you kept making them, then that would be harassment
It's not harrassment? It's just a simple compliment. Now if she stomps her feet and screams at you for dare saying that to her face... that's her problem. You just bein' nice. :1
I find that if the girl really did so, she herself is the harasser, not the asker. However, I dunno, I ain’t a ruddy pig. 👮 🤷♀️
It isn’t harassment. However, she may find it uncomfortable if you are a complete stranger. You can just admire her from afar. You don’t me have to tell her.
if you say it politely and keep your distance and in the culture it's normal to say that stuff like that she won't have a problem with it. or else avoid
Actually, I used to be shy but I think you should tell how you feel about her but keep note that they may think you are weird
I’m weird and mind not. I’d rather be weird and myself than be something-other-than-weird and someone I ain’t.
@HippieVeganJewslim then go for it. I always told the person I like my mind and everyone was like this is a guy has balls of steel for talking to a girl and say that so openly 🤣.
Some used to get jealous, usually guys who wanted to take the, "we are just friends route" and the girls girl friends who thought, "wow am I invisible to him, let's bitch about him so my bestie dumps him and ridicules him"
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