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Tbh, I wouldn't apologize for any of this stuff but I also wouldn't do it. Except for swearing probably, because I'm a sailor. What can I say? But I know when to control it.
Outside of that I just try to be some form of classy. Even if I'm rough around the edges everywhere else.
whoever does these things is a jerk and deserves a chair in the face it doesn't matter if its a man or a woman!!
Ha? Who the fuck apologizes for these things? 😂 Male or female, these are personal choices, not something to apologize for. Sorry, I forgot to shave my legs? Who says that? Sorry I smoke? Sorry I had a cocktail? Lol
My sister told me about Smashword's book: "Woman to Women". I recommend reading it as "dessert" after reading this excellent take. Well done!
Regarding alcohol; I recommend drinking only when you're in a safe environment and with people you trust. Not in bars, not with strangers/dates, unless you want to have sex with a stranger/the person you're with.
Alcohol lowers our inhibitions and we often do something we later regret when we're sober.
Women can do these things; that is their right. Most guys won't complain but some will; that is their right.
What is the problem?
cursing arnd farting are universally considered rude. and all the other things no one cares about, or i dont know any one who cares about it. and if a woman isn't wearing a skirt ho gives a fuck how she sits. if she is wearing a skirt and wants to sit like a man why not, but chances are she will be checked out.
a lot of these things, I think are just bad behavior, that both men and women shouldn't do!
I do agree about shaving though. Just be natural! And the smiling, people are entitled to various emotions and your various states will reflect in your expressions. Oh and the food! I love food and sharing it! I hate when girls get salads on dates, like I am gonna spend money on you anyways, get the steak!
Cursing is a bad habit, its not nice for men and women!
Drinking is not unladylike. But the rest are unlady like and are a huge turn off for me. I don't want to date a man. Then I don't want a girl that behaves like a man.
As for disliking cooking that's fine, there might be servants doing it or personally I like cooking for women.
what is "behaving like a man" though?
Sitting like a man, talking like a man etc
there's a difference between being "ladylike" and "appropriate".
I’m seeing a 15 year old having a more rational thought pattern than a 34 year old. Wow.
@QooLipBite Seems 2 people don't agree lol. But it's TRUE.
Eh, Wouldn’t blame them, it’s cause they were put down in their past...
Well said! All of it!
I already had guys criticizing me for drinking socialy. Guys understand that to deal with you bullshit we need some liquid help.
I think every girl in the world has been criticized for liking sex at some point in their lives. Usually by that guy that want to sleep with us for not wanting it with him.
Also... Hey you don't like me cursing? Fuck you!
Wanna play a man's role? You gotta earn it, that means you do those things listed above and prepare to be made fun of from all corners, don't ever ask for acceptance in what you do, just do it and live with it.
Don't expect guys to like you though, lol.
I don’t expect anyone to like me, but I appreciate the ones who do.
Right, but the fact that you're trying to spread a narrative just makes you look bad in this way, i'm trying to give you an opportunity to get a glance at what others may think.
Trying to preach to other women about what you feel is like coaching an addict that not all drugs are bad, they just become any better.
In my opinion, just ask yourself if you see men doing this, and discover why they don't and do. Then you'll find an answer.
If others don’t agree with my message or don’t find value in it then that’s up to them. I have all the people in my life I need and want, who respect me the way I am. Why would I need to appease anyone else?
There you go, you just answered you're own motive
What do you mean?
Well you ask why would you need to appease anyone else, so what's the motive/point of posting in the first place, I get the value, but i'm trying to make you see what's wrong with what you're saying
It’s basically saying “look we’re all human. Men do these things and don’t apologize so don’t feel like you have to.”
Shouldn't they already know that though?
I'll put it to you this way, eat at your favorite restaurant, and go to the kitchen to only find what the cooks are really doing, and you probably never wanted to know in the first place.
Men and women should treat this the same way when they're out in public, or meeting for the first time, etc.
Point is both men and women try their best to keep their worlds their own because if they don't both sides won't like each other and they'll start to use their flaws against them making their desire for each other obsolete.
What we know about each other is just unspoken truth, but that's where comedy takes place because believe it or not, a lot of jokes are just truth spoken lessons with great storytelling.
They should know it but it seems too many don’t.
That's what I'm saying, you just have to get on with it and trust people regardless of what they do otherwise you seem abysmal.
You're kidding, right? We don't like you, we adore you! You are, in my estimation, the rough equivalent of winning the lottery for millions of dollars, for an eligible bachelor who is strong enough to handle your formidable presence. If I were fortunate enough to be married to you, I would wholeheartedly encourage you to engage in every one of your preferred lifestyle choices, and be exceedingly grateful for the privilege of being your 'whatever'. At the risk of stating the obvious, you are absolutely magnificent, and the living, breathing personification of utter perfection.
Also, if I choose to wear a dress, its because i couldnt be bothered to put pants on so dont "who you dressin up for?" To me, because the answer is "Me bitch! My coochie needs to breathe!" And hell yeah ill still wear that dress with my hairy ass legs!
I loathe articles that tell people what they "must do" or "should do". Fk you, why is the author right and everyone else wrong? Pure arrogance and dismissiveness on the part of the author.
It's called a MyTake. Feel free to write your own.
i totally agree. i think all people should live their lives the way they want. women shouldn't apologize for doing any of these things, but the women who do these stuff shouldn't blame men for not being interested in them or even being disgusted by them. a man has freedom to choose his partner and if he doesn't like a woman who's sexually active then that his decision. same thing is true about girls with tattoos, not shaving, not cooking, farting etc.
All of this is fine if you're okay with living as a crazy cat lady.
Lol kinda
Who’s a crazy cat lady? Sounds kinda like a revenge fantasy. We only have one cat.
It's not a threat, more a predicition. Because, you know, men have standards too.
IF they can afford to.
I’ve never heard a women apologize for any of these things expect maybe swearing which in some cases you should apologize for
Yes it's just good manners
I have always laughed when women apologize for being humans. It's ridiculous. I tell them to relax and be themselves.
You'd find it hard to relax (and you wouldn't think it was funny) if you were judged unfairly.
When women are themselves, they get criticized, judged, called names, etc. A lot more than men are.
@bailey11 Um... That's a pretty broad assumption. I'm a scarred up, muscular black man. People ALWAYS judge me unfairly at first glance.
You should not have to apologize, but neither should others apologize if they find some of the actions repulsive.
Can men be self indulgent narcissists too and not have to apologize? That way we can get back to competing with each other properly without having to hold back to let a woman through for a damn quota.
I love to see the butt-hurtness of the GAG community when someone declares a rebellion of traditional gender norms. This place is chalk full of whiny conservative simpletons.
I haven't really seen any butthurt so far. Although my comment has gotten downvoted for simply pointing out that while women have the right to be 'unladylike', they shouldn't complain if and when men do not find them attractive as a result of their behavior.
@DWD94 I don't think she has to complain because what men like, or what they care about actually varies a lot. You might despise the things she does not apologize for, other men might look right past them, or even like some of them. Who really cares about feeling like you have to impress a bunch of people of the opposite sex? I have plenty of unmanly things I am not apologetic about in the least. Some women hate it and IDGAF.
The more a woman tries to be like a man the less desirable she is to them.
Never give up the opportunity to be a LADY.
I think women can choose which ways she wants to be a lady. Some ways just aren’t worth it.
Surely not for some. And they get what they have earned.
Good luck.
I’m a lady but I’m a lady in the way I want to be and I found a man who likes me that way. Why be someone I’m not?
You've tried to read something into what I said. Typical.
Changes nothing I said.
And good luck. Again.
Don’t need luck. Gotta man anyway.
Don’t need luck. I got my man.
Yep, has to be what fits the particular lady. Unless a woman is a drag king, she isn't trying to be like a man. A woman is a woman. There are all kinds. Some men might like more classically "feminine" women: who wear dresses, care about other people's opinions, don't cuss. Just like some women like more classically "masculine" men. But we are all operating along a spectrum of traits. An effeminate man is still a man. He acts that way cause that's how he's made. He's not trying to be a woman. He's being himself. The same is true for a woman who wears shorts all the time and cuts her hair close and doesn't smile. She's being herself. Not a man. These stereotypes box people. Some men like tougher women, some don't. Some women like butch men, some don't. There is room for all kinds of men and women to be appreciated.
@Screenwriter - Way too generalized and PC. Biological drivers cannot be usurped, they are what make people what they are, what they naturally desire. You can only TRY to fool mother nature.
Women loathe weak men. Men are not attracted to manly women. Period.
I think men who carry certain feminine traits are sexy af. Namely, good communication, nurturing, pleasantness, vulnerability, etc. I don’t consider them feminine but rather just good traits for anyone to have. But people like to hate and say I have a weak beta boy. However, I find him sexy and the haters repulsive.
Ewww...
When you grow completely bored with him then we can watch you shut down sexually, cheat bail or any combination. You'll see.
Women are not in awe of girlie-men. Some just like the familiarity, but it's boring AF.
After 12 years? Don’t think so. Besides, I don’t find him girly or weak at all. He has a lot of other good traditionally masculine traits as well. I’d rather have him than some chest beating “alpha” loser.
You just contradicted yourself. Oh well.
How so?