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Just read the headline. Everyone needs to work on themselves. Men and women.
I'm sick of these hoes BE GONE THOT
LMFAO!!! Ikr?đ
Then stop being a thot yourself
Sorry but you are incesure if you are get triggered by her past sexual life. Why can men sleep around or have sexual activities while women can't, otherwise she is bad
Thank you. Hypocrisy.
You've completely (deliberately?) missed the entire point of OPs take. He wasn't admonishing men of their own drawbacks, guys are just more honest about their misgivings. Women do need improving, as do many men, but the modern woman, even the good ones to a degree, so suffer from programmed self entitlement.
Which isn't true. It's based off a biased perspective and stereotypes. Your moronic notion of entitlement is merely a guise for misogyny: as if men are OWED things from women.
Not to mention that he points the finger at women and never ONCE points it to himself. That's dishonest.
@Anoniemus
What's dishonest is the false equivalence of "plausible deniability" and your claims of "subjectivity". One man's views may be a storm in a tea cup, but look/read around, both men and women are more and more talking about how, generally speaking, people are just more flakey and degenerate than ever.
You fail at basic comprehension, don't you? Who decides what women are worthy or not? How they should behave? Why they suffer? No one except the individuals and research showing as to why certain trends exist. I find it interesting that this "women's entitlement" started coalesce when women started gaining rights.
Again, subjective. It does not mean that perception is correct. There are plenty of historical accounts of how many people "agreed" with a concept and that concept was horribly, disastrously wrong. So your argument that "many people agree" is, in short, utter retardation. :)
Entitlement is not even gender-specific. But pussies like you two make it seem that way. And no. He wasn't talking about men (nor did he mention himself once). He specifically targeted women... lol. Men are more honest about their misgivings? Says who? Men are more likely to lie for selfish reasons but women are more likely to lie to help others (and there are reasons behind this).
greatergood.berkeley.edu/.../when_women_are_more_likely_to_lie
I consider both of you "flaky and degenerate" because of my personal perception. I'm not going to assume most or plenty of people are this way because I understand that my limited reality is not relatable to millions of experiences. The only thing I agree with is the obvious and common sense statement that you must be open to see if you are at fault (which is surprisingly profound to some of you). Pathetic. XD
Men and women are different creatures, to deny this is to deny your own biology.
@KrakenAttackin so it is ok is that men can sleep around? Nah. If you are a whore, want someone like you
It's not okay for men to fuck around, but men are more likely to be praised by it than women because to get girls to sleep with him, a guy has to be very attractive and good with women, all a girl has to do is say "yes" and she'll get sex. That's why, the fact that you're so sense as to not realize that proves him and me right.
@Rangers still douple standards
@kim45456 It's not "insecure" to not want a woman who has had 100 prior cocks in her, it is common sense. A man might "date" a woman like this, but marriage and kids? If she is a serious cock-hound, why would I expect her to change once she is married?
When you marry, you dont fuck around.
What has that to with changing yourself
Welcome to reality.
What? You also stop certain thing when marry. I dont understand the deal here
YOU CAN'T TURN A WHORE INTO A HOUSEWIFE.
@KrakenAttackin fucking A right
@KrakenAttackin but you can turn a fuckboy into a family man?
Just because a person wanted some fun at some point in life doesn't mean they don't want to settle down someday.
@KrakenAttackin but if it is possible to turm a fag like into dad, why should not be that possible?
@TienShenhan you are a whore yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QZLp8ds3fI
Key that opens many doors = masterkey. Lock that is opened by many keys = shitty lock, replace after use
@TienShenhan who tf want a used dildo?
Haja
@DonCachondo he is a slut himself
@Kim45456. Not only are you a whore, you are a homophobic whore.
@KrakenAttacking you started.
@KrakenAttackin you are the one who is a whore.
Why is a man who can't get laid called an "incel"?
The more you fight your biology the more miserable you will be. Kim, there is no future in being a dumb whore.
@kim45456D on't mind those guys. They are just bitter.
I have no doubt Jim Jefferies would be a slut XD
@KrakenAttackin whoremophobic?
@KrakenAttackin I'll have you know whores are the bedrock of society, my friend!
@KrakemAttackim i have seen how you make racist, sexist etc. statements and out of nowhere you care about political correctness?
@DonCachondo I know i am hypocritical but I try to stop slut shaming and shaming people because of their promiscuous. I just think that he maybe "slut" by his logic if he also sleep around
@Anoniemus Don't worry about Kim, she is just a "Cock Holster".
Ok 1. if it makes you feel any better men shouldn't be "Slutting Around" either. and 2. You don't actually believe that you can just stop sleeping with multiple people cold turkey do you? Even if you can it's likely not your choice, it's probably more of a "Welp i had my fun, and my looks are dying down. Time to find some simp to twirl around my finger"
@ThisIsMyOpinion I mean i know a great place that sells dog collars we can go and find one that's a good fit for you.
@KrakenAttackimg shut tf up fag,
@Malik00
" Even if you can it's likely not your choice, it's probably more of a "Welp i had my fun, and my looks are dying down. Time to find some simp to twirl around my finger"" many muslim men or men are sluts but except women to be virgin or less sexual experienced
I can't speak for them, but i'm gonna be 30 and i've already accepted that any woman i get with will likely have been around the block a few times. No matter what i'm getting SOMEBODY'S sloppy seconds and i've just gotta come to terms with that. All i really want is someone who isn't a sexual burn out and doesn't treat me like a walking atm machine.
@Malik00 so that I can give it to you as a gift? You don't need I am sure you have plenty.
@Malik00 so you want a virgin or nothing? Not surprised that you judge girls base in that.
By the way wake up! Most women don't want us to be their atm. You are thinking of a select few.
@ThisIsMyOpinion Would you believe me if i told you i chose to be a virgin? I watched jerry springer, maury growing up all the while watching pregnant teens walking around my school. So i opted to willingly stay celibate, focus on my grades and make something of myself, and what's my reward for my patience? Dipshits like you mocking me for my choice, making me feel insecure as fuck as to whether i should have waited or just slept around like everyone else and essentially making it seem like i wasted my time holding back.
So yeah. Fuck you.
@ThisIsMyOpinion Gotta love this world we live in where women who have a cock for every day of the week are praised, but men who choose to practice abstinence are mocked and ridiculed. I LOVE double standards.
@Malik00 I am not judging you for making that choice. I am judging you for not wanting someone for not making the same choice as you did.
People who have sex are not inherit bad.
@Malik00 Again I don't judge either. But if the girl that had lots of sex doesn't want a guy if he also didn't had a lot of sex I am going to judge her too.
@ThisIsMyOpinion No no they aren't in fact i'm fully aware of the concept of an ethical slut or basically someone who has a code of ethics when they have sex, i have nothing but respect for someone who has sex purely for fun and has multiple partners but treats them all like their friends and lovers.
It's those who have sex with others and views them as little more then tools or toys, or uses sex as a bargaining chip to get what they want that i have an issue with, and sometimes you can't tell who's who. So basically someone who has sex for personal gain vs someone who has sex purely for the love of it.
@Malik00 both men and women have both kinds of sex that you described. But hey if you just want a girl that has always treated her sexual partners like they where more than a one time thing, that's already much easier to get.
@ThisIsMyOpinion Ya lost me
Bahahaha fuck sake...
Any right minded guy doesn't want a chick that's been riding lots of free and easy dick, she's contaminated, both metaphorically and quite literally, on occasions. The girls on this thread are hypergamous imbeciles who choose to neglect the fact that we live in an era where degeneracy is the norm - both girls and guys alike need to improve, but the thing is, trash often knows it is trash, and loves to wallow in its own depravity.
Regardless of sex and dating, people generally are not to be trusted as far as they can be thrown, people lack moral fibre, a weak, cowardly and sleazy, and this simply spills over into the dating game, where men and women both whore around. I wouldn't piss on the average person if they were on fire, and I sure as shit would not hesitate to give a dumb bitch a punch in the face if it was required. @kim45456 exhibits the very same narcy traits that IRL, would lead a "misogynist" like me to put her back in her place...
Heck, you dumb broads get off on it, that's how psychopathic and pathological YOU and people like you are.
@Malik00 using you own words.
"someone who has sex purely for fun and has multiple partners but treats them all like their friends and lovers."
This person is easy to find.
What I mean by pathological is that so many girls these days simultaneously claim to despise and outright reject, the very masculine virtues that they so ardently CRAVE. And then they wonder why so many guys are flaking around like slack jawed faggots, not being... you guessed it... masculine enough!
@FreshOutaIdeas I don't know if any of that was to me, but you need a chill pill.
The average person is nothing like you described. You really need to get off the internet, you are reading way to much bullshit.
@FreshOutaIdeas any guy that acts less masculine just because some girls say that they don't like that, was never very masculine to begin with.
Besides never once in my life I heard a girl saying she didn't wanted a masculine guy.
@ThisIsMyOpinion It really all depends on the level, personally being masculine 24/7 is exhausting, but i can turn it on and off when i need to.
@ThisIsMyOpinion
No, this was to the whole thread, its blown up into bullshit with little sweethearts like you snowflaking the fuck out. You need to pull your finger out your ass, grow a sack (all be it unlikely) and snap the fuck out being a whiny little faggot. People are, *GENERALLY* weak as shit these days, they're sick, and sickness is the norm, so I wouldn't expect a sheep like you to grasp this.
@FreshOutaIdeas You can't be strong all the time dude, thats part of why male suicides is so much higher.
@ThisIsMyOpinion
That was precisely my fucking point, women LOVE masculinity... But they've been programmed to hate it, or so they hoodwink themselves into thinking they do. Then we wind up with bitter and confused cunts like the chick in this thread, wopping around on the internet like a bitch. She wouldn't be screeching the namecalling to guys like me IRL - she'd be busy trying to fuck us, and crying she didn't get the attention she thought she deserved. But aside from that...
@Malik00
Male suicides are so fucking high because EVERY SINGLE OUTLET for guys and their masculinities are being eroded by the cultural marxist establishment that wants to destroy the basic procreative rights that men and women hold together, in unison. In simpler terms, the gov wants to destroy masculine men because then they have a workforce of docile shit-cunts that don't question a thing, until they're on the rear-end of say... female hypergamy. Men aren't being strong, and that's why they're opting out of life. Life was never meant to be easy, I sure as shit know what it feels like myself.
@Malik00 I agree. That is what having people that care about you are for. So that you don't have to be super strong all the time.
@FreshOutaIdeas And there it is.
@ThisIsMyOpinion
A support network (or rather, a social/familial network) is something humans need to boot, regardless of gender. I can agree that anyone who is left feeling isolated and/or alienated should not be the norm. That isn't so much about masculinity, its about a breakdown in family and communal structures.
@Malik00
By all means, elaborate.
@ThisIsMyOpinion It just gets so exhausting and people wonder why so many men are prone to violence? It's because they been taught to constantly have it on and aren't allowed to show weakness or emotion, eventually it just builds and builds until eventually BOOM.
@FreshOutaIdeas you are the one whining here. You are the one getting all emotional. People having different views than yours doesn't make them weak. Being angry with everything because you get triggered by people having different opinions... now that is weak.
Also no, girls are not "programmed" to hate masculinity or to think they hate it. That is just delusional.
The girl in this thread has many opinions that trigger guys like you. That is why I follow her. That and she is a good person.
@FreshOutaIdeas Tell me what alignment do you consider yourself politically?
@Malik00 I think we are allowed to show weakness. But we must do it in the right times.
@ThisIsMyOpinion
Don't try and flip the switch, bailing out of genuine conversation like the very flaky pussyholes I was "whining about". I was being diplomatic, I could see some sense in your prior point about social/support groups, and to a degree, agreed with the sentiment at least. Now your backfiring because you didn't like what I said. Stop using mental gymnastics to worm out of actually arguing/conversing with me. Your free to follow who the fuck you like you silly fucking soy bean. If we are talking about @kim45456 in this context, then all I'll say is that she has deliberately put across in her ever-wise "points" in a prickly, argumentative and pseudo-masculine overtone. And that's what I'm criticising. As for you, the imperssion I get so far, is that your a spineless sack of shit, just like I spoke of in prior comments. Fire away dude...
@Malik00 i have respect for virgin men
@FreshOutaIdeas why the hell is the family structure breaking down?
@FreshOutaldeas are you virgin yourself? You are trash yourself.
@ThisIsMyOpinion Because it's gotten to the point where you have to ask yourself if there IS one. It's pretty much impossible to have a sole breadwinner anymore. The concept of how a family can function has changed, and so we must change accordingly
@FreshOutaldeas shut tf up now. Who tf are you to decide whether men like promiscuous or non promiscuous women. You are the same guy who prefere virgin but cheat on the wife only because of her lack of sexual experience. Shut tf up male whore
"Because it's gotten to the point where you have to ask yourself if there IS one. It's pretty much impossible to have a sole breadwinner anymore. The concept of how a family can function has changed, and so we must change accordingly" Some people prefere traditional marriage and some modern. I prefere housemen
@FreshOutaIdeas "silly fucking soy bean" hahah this is why I can't take you serious. xD
Anyway you are whining again. You changed from having an argument to just trying to insult me. Great job on your part proving my point.
@kim45456k
You've just burned stupidity into my fucking eyes... What the fuck are you rattling on about now?
@FreshOutaldeas look if you hate women so much, go date a fag like you. So simple
@FreshOutaldeas if you insult, dont except stay calm, you piece of shit. Now stop spamming
@kim45456
HOLD YOUR FIRE!!!
In response to your reply to @Malik00 ...
Please see this video, it'll answer your question;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEYVNIm_wp8
if you insult me, dont except me to stay calm**
We expect you to stay calm because you're having an argument on the internet and there's no reason to be a hysterical cunt =)
It is my opinion you fag
@Malik00 There are more households with more than one person bringing money home. So what? That doesn't change the fact that we as men still have to bring money home to provide for our families.
@ThisIsMyOpinion Then and this i feel is a large part for the reason of this mytake, what of the women who still kind of expect the man to be the sole bread winner and essentially brings nothing to the table.
@Malik00 Who cares about those anyway. If they want a sugar daddy let them find it somewhere else. I am sure most women don't think like that.
On a side note, just a curiosity. I had colleges in university who said they could never marry a women who didn't had a degree. More than one. A balanced relationship is kinda expected now.
@ThisIsMyOpinion I hope so
All I have to say is : Thanks for thinking we can change.
This is super interesting to read. Thanks a bunch!
Oh jeez I need to read this again!
What kind of a prince you think you are? Which country you serve with your mighty gold dick?
OMG đ¤Ł
Fag alerted
All of this is true.. All of it.
alright ill make sure to keep my legs closed to give you a boost of self esteem
If all you're good for is what's between your legs you're frankly doing us a favor, we got better things to do then waste time carting around dead weight.
Alright incel go find a chick that hasnât rejected you
I love how the idea that I reject women is so far removed from your mind you immediately jump to incel. Did it ever cross your mind that some men actually have standards? Face it, you don't want a man, you want a slave. And frankly if my only choice of women are shallow cunts like you? Pfft. I'd honestly just get on my knees and start sucking dick. Personally I'd rather be an incel then a simp, which i'd imagine is the only kind of man who would ever want an ugly soul like yours. So i suggest you enjoy your time while it lasts cause you're gonna find yourself 40 and alone and then you'll be the incel not me.
firstly this has nothing to do with where im gonna end up, your just some internet troll that can't handle a women having a good time. Yeah sure you have standards but really think about it you get fucked over by the same girl over again which has lead to this mentality
So what should i just accept whatever woman gives me the time of day even if she's bitchy, manipulative, treats me like trash and regularly beats me? Look I've already accepted that any woman i get with will have likely been around the block a few times, I'm getting SOMEONE'S Sloppy seconds I've accepted that. I just want someone who isn't a sexual burnout and doesn't look at me as just a walking ATM machine, but apparently according to you men don't even deserve THAT.
no its not that, its that you automatically assume every women you see is like that and its always about the womens sexual history what about the mans.
This coming from someone who pulled the incel card right out the gate? Look if it makes you feel any better i don't think men should be slutting around either, that just fuels the steryotype that a mans worth is determined by his sex count, the money he makes and how good of a meat shield he is with everything else being meaningless.
If anything i wonder why women don't care more about how many people a man has slept with before getting with her.
I mean look at it this way, would you be willing to play with a used dildo that has been in multiple other women before coming to you and you have no idea it's been sanitized or not? I don't know if you got any diseases, i don't know if you have sex because you find it fun or you just use it to manipulate others. The reason why so many men get so antsy about a woman who has been with multiple partners is because they don't know if she has sex for fun or profit, whether she willingly wants a long term relationship with you or just doesn't have a choice in the matter, or even whether or not she will just sleep around if she gets bored with you.
There are SO many different variable to this that has nothing to do with a moral standpoint, you have to forgive men for not willing to take a gamble on something that seems iffy, especially if he finds out in a way that doesn't involve you telling him your past to his face. It's less a purity issue and more a trust one.
thats why i have grown to like the redpill community.
Very true. We all need to make changes.
good advice but i think she won't listen
It would be a good idea to do that.
This is true for guys too
Calling girls who I'm pretty sure you didn't take the time to understand "flighty, arrogant, hook-up-types" is extremely prejudiced. And then there's this "our culture excessively teaches women that they donât need to cultivate themselves for a man or a relationship, constantly programs them with narcissistic defensive thinking that she is always a âqueen,â always âdeserves better,â is rarely the reason for why a relationship fails" Men everywhere have failed this generation of women and they're just building themselves up. I won't lie, this has resulted in some narcissistic women. But the men have been narcissists for MUCH longer. And you neglected to mention that there are still sooo many sexist men out there putting down women or teaching women to be subservient. And that bit about women deflect and don't take responsibility for their shortcomings, who taught those woman that? Most likely their parents, especially the fathers. And then you say "a lot of women of today are not actually relationship material, even if they think they are. And this is because many of these women are asking for âgood menâ or men who are serious about love, yet theyâre still having casual sex with their male acquaintances, random associations, etc. and actually cannot really shake that life. These are the same women who want a man that will love them like a gentleman and care all about them, but then donât want the very gentlemen they scorn because they are not attracted to them sexually." Men started this too, and we're give each other medals for it. The rest I'm not even gonna dignify with a response. I STRONGLY disagree with the sentiment and content of whatever this is. But let me tell you something. If you don't like the way women are, realize it starts with you. Don't complain about it, act. Be the change you wanna see in the world.
Exactly! That's it. Start with yourself and NOT just tell others to start with themselves. In an above comment section there was linked the mytake A Gentleman Always Wins The Girl â
and the author of the current mytake went on and on about it. BUT he didn't see at all that the linked my take isn't bad, it speaks about right things, but he can't see it because the author is completely fixed (unconsciously) on blaming others. You have no right to miss good anythere and to mistake good things for bad just because the good things are somehow related with what you claim to be bad generally in your mind. it is outstanding WRONG! The stupidest thing to do and still almost anyone does and isn't even aware. Great saying "BE the change you wanna see in the world" that is what they almost all lack. Whether they claim to be christians, feminists, masculinists and whoever else (those of them qho claim of course, but sadly it seems to be the vast majority lately!)
*those of them who ONLY claim - I meant
Exactly
You're 18 and you get it... lol. He's so sad...
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Madonna/whore complex?
Never heard of that?
No sir
@themomo84 Google it.
Hoes mad
Awesome myTake!
Nice mytake
Amen!
You can't fight nature I'm afraid.