Misogynists versus Male Feminists: Which ones do women find less attractive?

[MCheetah]

(Repost from quora )

Do women think sexist men are more attractive than feminist men? Simple answer is: yes. But that doesn’t mean women want sexist men; they just want feminist men even less than they would misogynists.

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...THE TYPICAL MILLENNIAL BETA-MALE.

Honestly, literally ANY other type of man is more attractive than male feminists. And no, I don’t mean the super-bullshit, strawman, egalitarian “I just want women to be treated as equals” phrasing, either. I mean MODERN third and fourth wave feminists… who are male. Your Jonathan McIntoshes, Joss Whedons, and Justin Trudeaus. I’m cringing even as I type this.

Modern day third/fourth wave feminism is hated by MOST of humanity. (It’s blatant sexism against men and arguably against women too; why wouldn’t it be hated?) Even among heavily biased sources, at least 75% of North Americans are not down with feminism (though only 9% oppose social gender equality), though other figures suggest it’s really closer to 83% of the population, and is as high as 93% in the UK and the rest of Europe, aside from a few places, like Sweden. And this is typically because feminists are seen as either too extreme or too misandrist.

Feminism is sought after and preached by a VERY insecure and incompetent minority of middle to upper middle class, Western, college-educated, liberal, typically-white women in privileged positions of power in society who completely lack self awareness or responsibility for their own lives and outcomes, that want to blame all of their own faults and problems on men and society as a whole and project all of their insecurities onto the entire female gender, because it’s easier to blame something that’s impossible to change that’s been around forever than it is to work on yourself and your own faults and admit when you screwed up in life and things haven’t gone the way you would have liked them to. Most women, let alone humans, aren’t this pathetic and insecure. Most women aren’t third wave feminists just like most men aren’t misogynists (though both groups are pretty sexist). So most women would not want a misogynist or the other sad extreme of awful choices. So now, imagine how bad it is to be a feminist and male? It’s pretty bad.

Male feminists are literally (without hyperbole or exaggeration) THE most pathetic form of human walking on the planet Earth. More pathetic than incels (a hooker and some time in the army would fix them right up). More pathetic than literal cucks. More pathetic than simps giving their life savings to average-looking E-thots on Twitch and OnlyFans. There is legitimately no form of human being more cringeworthy, spineless, weak, and pitiful to observe. Just look at any male feminist…

…and ask yourself “Is this someone I would take seriously as a boss or authority figure, or even stranger on the street who wanted me to do a request for them.” Ask yourself “Is this someone who could defend a woman, or even a small animal, from harm or danger?” Ask yourself, “Is this someone who gets laid in any capacity? Is this someone women would look up to as being strong and masculine enough to devote their time and energy towards building a relationship with?”

And yeah, I’m speaking in generalities here because this applies, in my opinion, to ALL male feminists. If you proudly call yourself one, this applies to you. I don’t care if you point to Terry Crews or Will Smith: they’re still pussies. Any man who is willing to sacrifice his manhood, dignity, self-respect, integrity, and all men solely for the sake of appeasing a woman and gaining her approval is simply pathetic. It would be sad if a woman wanted to put down all other women simply to gain male approval as well, but at least women aren’t always looked at as requiring self-respect and dignity to get by in life, where it is been conditioned by society to be a sole trait any respected man has to have. No man with 0% confidence will ever be respected. And no male feminist has even a shred of self-confidence.

So when you think of what a male feminist is, think of Jerry Smith from Rick and Morty, but with absolutely none of the charm and even less confidence to the point of being completely nonexistent. That’s a male feminist. Even women feminists - as much as they hate/envy men as a whole - don’t respect male feminists. At best, they’re useful idiots to useful idiots. That’s why feminists don’t even consider males “feminists;” they call them “allies.”

But really, they embody the opposite of everything that is considered attractive to women, which are usually social status, masculinity, and confidence. Male feminists are social outcasts, weaklings, wimps, and loners. They usually have father issues and was raised alone by an overbearing independent mother and thus, also have mommy issues (or sometimes, the whole Oedipus complex). However, being a Momma’s Boy alone doesn’t make you a male feminist, no. You also have to fail at most everything you do, and be jealous, angry, bitter, and spiteful at it, too. You have to hate other men who succeed and are better at life than you. That’s why femininity is so refreshing to them: it lacks the masculine traits of competition, assertiveness and aggressiveness. And if you don’t have to be assertive or confident, but can still win? Why, that’s just a dream come true!

So to summarize it, male feminists are feminine, extremely insecure, and highly unpopular, not to mention unsuccessful in life, to boot. However, they still have male desires, like wanting to be respected, wanting to be taken seriously, wanting power and to enact change in the world, and wanting to have sex and partnerships with women. If the woman can be the breadwinner in life and essentially “be the man” of the relationship, then that is a dream come true for male feminists. However, VERY few women desire being masculine. Really, only two types do: hardcore lesbians (“dykes”) and the same feminists that hate men because they want to be men and have these ‘patriarchy’ delusions seeded in jealousy that men are gods and can do anything and everything (though society certainly tasks us with that burden and many of us don’t succeed at it).

So aside from some weird inverse power dynamic of gender roles where the woman gets to be “the man of the house” and the man gets to be “the quiet and chaste housewife,” NO ONE wants a man who is spineless, weak, pathetic, effeminate, insecure, unsuccessful, and lazy and also an asshole, two-faced, a Nice Guy, and creepy. Though Quora being “the slightly smarter Reddit” has a lot of proud feminists on it who value having a pathetic male slave that they can call their “ethically non-monogamous boyfriend.” But if you’re a male feminist who disagrees with me, you don’t have to bother responding with a comment: it should be common sense I wouldn’t respect you enough to read it. But hey, maybe if you respected yourself a little, you wouldn’t call yourself a “male ally to third wave feminism” to begin with. Or be losing dating opportunities to “sexist” men like Donald Trump (who we all know you despise as the ultimate boogeyman) or generally any masculine self-respecting male at all.

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TL;DR: Women don’t want either type of man, but at least misogynist men still act like actual men.

[Roux13]

I didn't care to read all of that, but I would definitely take a male feminist, over a sexist man any day.