I’m confused. Why is no one on here dating IRL, without the apps? Yeah it’s hard but it’s super rewarding and you get a less “manufactured” version of the person.
the fact you called it male created shows how pathetic you are. a lot of times women don't know what they want.. calling it a myth, especially a male created myth, is just pathetic and goddamn sad. You should grow up a little
Wow you've got some cajones. You're apparently 29 and female and this is how you speak to other people? I won't even address the "grow up" part because talk about the pot calling the kettle. I am open to discussion but you've added nothing and are just insulting for no reason. This is how you get blocked and ostracized on social media. 👋 Bye bye.
Yeah, that might not have been the best way to phrase that. It is how I think, however I can't speak for all others. It was the best I could come up with. I do stand by that concept, though, that there is a discovery phase where no decision should need to be made. It's exploratory. Even if he's already come to some conclusion. And P. S. Women can be rational. There are more feelings involved, yes, but I'll continue to argue that logic and emotions exist in all people/both genders.
I'm actually surprised that not a lot of men on here are familiar with the whole collecting data. In my experience I'm usually like "Life is too short let's go" and the men are like "I need to assess if we are really compatible" lmao some not so direct than others like that but it's more or less, the same thing. Guess it goes to show you even guys can be complex
@Jamie05rhs who said anything about sneaking? Most people aren't honest about a lot if things. I'll ask but I'll also observe if actions follow and want to meet friends
@Jamie05rhs Oh sheesh, a lot. But the primary thing I think about is in matters of genuine feelings. If someone says they want me for more than my body, I observe if that aligns with their actions. I recently broke it off with a guy who always tried to reassure me he wanted more than just a warm body and that what we had was special, but would get very upset and all passive aggressive the dates that didn't end up with sex. I'd try to talk to him about it but he just would shut down and tell me he's Just not feeling like talking. That said more than any sentimental words he ever said. But esp the passive aggressive, when I said I wasn't in the mood he would start saying "hmm yeah. Whatever. " And then just withdraw his emotions and wouldn't meaningfully contribute to whatever we did or said on the date.
@Jamie05rhs That's actually something you assess with time. So many guys aren't upfront about this kind of thing. Guess girls and guys can both have issues with directness, but about different things
Yea well that's just the way life has shaped me. Everytime I was excited or had a positive outlook towards something, life always was right behind with something to screw me over with. I'm not like other people, I don't have anything I'm fighting to live for and my willpower is all but used up, and I don't have the energy anymore to be continuing to fight to live. Fighting to live is the hardest thing for me to do, so if giving up on things makes me a defeatist, well then I guess I am a defeatist. I'm in therapy but that's just an hour a week for $200 an hour just to talk or sometimes just to listen as I can't always talk. Yea I'm depressed but life doesn't want me to be any other way.
You have to work on reminding yourself that there are still enjoyable experiences to be had, many people have also suffered but got through it, and you only have one life to live, then it's gone forever.
people that are more agreeable are more likely to be indecisive men are more disagreeable and women are more agreeable so therefore they are more indecisive. this has nothing to do with relationships. ask yourself who is more likely to be indecisive when buying a car men or women. it also depends on personality. even clinical psychologists say that women are more likely to be indecisive with everything in life. LOL YOU ARE SO TRIGGERED.
if you new anything about psychology you know all of this. it is not a myth lol. lookup jordan peterson lol. i love how you pretend that psychology is fake but that is what liberal people believe right. they believe that psychology is a fake science
Lmao. I am SO MUCH more decisive than my husband. I don’t even need all the options. If I like one I go with it and never look back. He spends sooooo much time researching everything, looking at all options and all angles. Ughhhh I die of boredom.
1. I know about Jordan Peterson and I do not proselytize him the way you men do. He's not an all-mighty prophet, right on everything. On many things, he's a biased hack. 2. I never said nor implied "psychology is fake science" and neither do liberals. That's complete garbage. If you read anything about me, contextually you would know I would never say or think that and neither does 55% of the U. S. You're projecting. 3. You're going to insult Liberals? Well right back at ya, Conservative. Fucking Conservatives politicizing everything. You're the snowflake here who can't handle disagreement and instead throws a barrage of labels and jargon at me but I know about everything you've referenced and I ain't falling for it. 4. 'Agreeableness' comes from the Big 5 and I reject that whole theory. But if you want to go there...
"Agreeableness is a prosocial trait that differentiates how people form interpersonal relationships and refers to individuals who cooperate (John et al., 2008). People with a high level of agreeableness are described by others as kind, considerate, and warm (Graziano & Tobin, 2002). People who are less agreeable tend to have interpersonal problems (John et al., 2008) and might be quarrelsome (Antoncic, Bratkovic Kregar, Singh, & Denoble, 2015). Agreeableness, along with openness, is the least robust of the five personality traits since its theoretical structure is less consistently replicated (Meyer & Purvanova, 2013). Individuals with high agreeableness prefer working and perform better in workgroups or teams (John et al., 2008) since their characteristics facilitate interpersonal attraction, cooperation, smooth conflict resolution, open communication, information-seeking, and compliance with team goals. As a result, these people elevate the overall team performance (Peeters, Van Tuijl, Rutte, & Reymen, 2006)." 5. Fuck you. You're rude and your grammar sucks so I'm blocking ya. I already know this 'conversation' will go nowhere and be a complete waste of time.
I realy have to say after this reasons I realy have to say the Quote you wanted to fight against is now more true than bevore. All your reasons realy seems Like woman don't know what they want
No? It's not about that. It's a thinking/writing exercise for me. I'm not personally affected by this. I write to give, hopefully, some clarity to some others.
It might be similar to stand-up comics in some ways, but if writers wrote only about their own internal demons, they'd run out of material eventually and also be too invested to have objectivity.
I like the view point from this perspective but one thing that still there wasn't any studies or Research whatsoever lol so I still believe in this myth lol...
I believe in citation of sources but in this case none were necessary. These are my conclusions and I would challenge you to specify where you can prove they are needed.
This is an attempt to invalidate and discredit reasons and explanations you simply prefer not to be true.
Yeah men can be harsh sometimes when we say women are complicated, but we can't live without them as you said in the last few lines there is fun between the chaos. Be patient with her when she is crazy and she will fall in your love 😜
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I’m confused. Why is no one on here dating IRL, without the apps? Yeah it’s hard but it’s super rewarding and you get a less “manufactured” version of the person.
the fact you called it male created shows how pathetic you are. a lot of times women don't know what they want.. calling it a myth, especially a male created myth, is just pathetic and goddamn sad. You should grow up a little
Wow you've got some cajones. You're apparently 29 and female and this is how you speak to other people? I won't even address the "grow up" part because talk about the pot calling the kettle.
I am open to discussion but you've added nothing and are just insulting for no reason.
This is how you get blocked and ostracized on social media.
👋 Bye bye.
Hah! "Collecting Data Points". As if there is some sort of rational thought process behind what women choose.
Yeah, that might not have been the best way to phrase that. It is how I think, however I can't speak for all others. It was the best I could come up with.
I do stand by that concept, though, that there is a discovery phase where no decision should need to be made. It's exploratory. Even if he's already come to some conclusion.
And P. S. Women can be rational. There are more feelings involved, yes, but I'll continue to argue that logic and emotions exist in all people/both genders.
I'm actually surprised that not a lot of men on here are familiar with the whole collecting data. In my experience I'm usually like "Life is too short let's go" and the men are like "I need to assess if we are really compatible" lmao some not so direct than others like that but it's more or less, the same thing. Guess it goes to show you even guys can be complex
@Diaforos22 I am one of those guys. But I don't do it secretly sneaking around in the bushes. I just ask her about herself directly.
@Jamie05rhs who said anything about sneaking? Most people aren't honest about a lot if things. I'll ask but I'll also observe if actions follow and want to meet friends
@Diaforos22 Ok. What kind of actions?
@Jamie05rhs Oh sheesh, a lot. But the primary thing I think about is in matters of genuine feelings. If someone says they want me for more than my body, I observe if that aligns with their actions. I recently broke it off with a guy who always tried to reassure me he wanted more than just a warm body and that what we had was special, but would get very upset and all passive aggressive the dates that didn't end up with sex. I'd try to talk to him about it but he just would shut down and tell me he's Just not feeling like talking. That said more than any sentimental words he ever said. But esp the passive aggressive, when I said I wasn't in the mood he would start saying "hmm yeah. Whatever. " And then just withdraw his emotions and wouldn't meaningfully contribute to whatever we did or said on the date.
@Diaforos22 "but would get very upset and all passive aggressive the dates that didn't end up with sex." Ahh, yep; that's a sign.
But I thought that we were talking about data points that would be collected before even dating.
@Jamie05rhs That's actually something you assess with time. So many guys aren't upfront about this kind of thing. Guess girls and guys can both have issues with directness, but about different things
@Diaforos22. Oh, okay. I see.
Very thoughtfully written and vert true! Thanks for sharing!
If I'm correct, you missed the aromantic and the polyamorous type here.
Thanks but those are pretty straightforward. Especially if she's aromantic. She will not come off as indecisive at all so doesn't really apply here.
You're right.
All I took from this was it's just over all better to stay single
Well I'm not surprised. You're extremely depressed and have a negative, defeatist attitude about many things.
Yea well that's just the way life has shaped me. Everytime I was excited or had a positive outlook towards something, life always was right behind with something to screw me over with. I'm not like other people, I don't have anything I'm fighting to live for and my willpower is all but used up, and I don't have the energy anymore to be continuing to fight to live. Fighting to live is the hardest thing for me to do, so if giving up on things makes me a defeatist, well then I guess I am a defeatist. I'm in therapy but that's just an hour a week for $200 an hour just to talk or sometimes just to listen as I can't always talk. Yea I'm depressed but life doesn't want me to be any other way.
Have you ever seen Reign on Me?
Try watching it. You may relate to the protagonist.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0490204/reference
And then, lighten things up with this comedy. Kumail is great in it.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7734218/reference
You have to work on reminding yourself that there are still enjoyable experiences to be had, many people have also suffered but got through it, and you only have one life to live, then it's gone forever.
Tbh even I don't know what i want in a relationship lol
People, typically do not know what they want, they probably can't really describe it and won't know until they see and feel it.
people that are more agreeable are more likely to be indecisive men are more disagreeable and women are more agreeable so therefore they are more indecisive. this has nothing to do with relationships. ask yourself who is more likely to be indecisive when buying a car men or women. it also depends on personality. even clinical psychologists say that women are more likely to be indecisive with everything in life. LOL YOU ARE SO TRIGGERED.
if you new anything about psychology you know all of this. it is not a myth lol. lookup jordan peterson lol. i love how you pretend that psychology is fake but that is what liberal people believe right. they believe that psychology is a fake science
Lmao. I am SO MUCH more decisive than my husband. I don’t even need all the options. If I like one I go with it and never look back. He spends sooooo much time researching everything, looking at all options and all angles. Ughhhh I die of boredom.
@loves2learn like i said depends on the person
1. I know about Jordan Peterson and I do not proselytize him the way you men do. He's not an all-mighty prophet, right on everything. On many things, he's a biased hack.
2. I never said nor implied "psychology is fake science" and neither do liberals. That's complete garbage. If you read anything about me, contextually you would know I would never say or think that and neither does 55% of the U. S. You're projecting.
3. You're going to insult Liberals? Well right back at ya, Conservative. Fucking Conservatives politicizing everything. You're the snowflake here who can't handle disagreement and instead throws a barrage of labels and jargon at me but I know about everything you've referenced and I ain't falling for it.
4. 'Agreeableness' comes from the Big 5 and I reject that whole theory.
But if you want to go there...
"Agreeableness is a prosocial trait that differentiates how people form interpersonal relationships and refers to individuals who cooperate (John et al., 2008). People with a high level of agreeableness are described by others as kind, considerate, and warm (Graziano & Tobin, 2002).
People who are less agreeable tend to have interpersonal problems (John et al., 2008) and might be quarrelsome (Antoncic, Bratkovic Kregar, Singh, & Denoble, 2015). Agreeableness, along with openness, is the least robust of the five personality traits since its theoretical structure is less consistently replicated (Meyer & Purvanova, 2013).
Individuals with high agreeableness prefer working and perform better in workgroups or teams (John et al., 2008) since their characteristics facilitate interpersonal attraction, cooperation, smooth conflict resolution, open communication, information-seeking, and compliance with team goals. As a result, these people elevate the overall team performance (Peeters, Van Tuijl, Rutte, & Reymen, 2006)."
5. Fuck you. You're rude and your grammar sucks so I'm blocking ya. I already know this 'conversation' will go nowhere and be a complete waste of time.
I realy have to say after this reasons I realy have to say the Quote you wanted to fight against is now more true than bevore. All your reasons realy seems Like woman don't know what they want
That’s how girls are they follow their social construct.
Do you feel better now that you got it off your chest
No? It's not about that. It's a thinking/writing exercise for me. I'm not personally affected by this. I write to give, hopefully, some clarity to some others.
Every writer I've known has had some neurotic spirit to get off their chest
It might be similar to stand-up comics in some ways, but if writers wrote only about their own internal demons, they'd run out of material eventually and also be too invested to have objectivity.
That's all very nice but relationships are an investment and statistics guide my decisions.
What statistics?
In conclusion women aren't worth of your time, when they come they come.
The less you appear to invest into her, means they're not a simp
some good pics of hot girls here. you have too much time on your hands
I like the view point from this perspective but one thing that still there wasn't any studies or Research whatsoever lol so I still believe in this myth lol...
I believe in citation of sources but in this case none were necessary. These are my conclusions and I would challenge you to specify where you can prove they are needed.
This is an attempt to invalidate and discredit reasons and explanations you simply prefer not to be true.
Good take 😎👍
Thanks!
Yeah men can be harsh sometimes when we say women are complicated, but we can't live without them as you said in the last few lines there is fun between the chaos. Be patient with her when she is crazy and she will fall in your love 😜
this is why I rather stick to prostitutes
I hate the title, but the content is pretty solid.