I know plenty of Women... (Money Version)

[natured]

Hello my sweet friends, my G@G mood is rather funny lately, let me tell you why....

MEN and more MEN on G@G insist on generalizing women on so many OH SO MANY THINGS, they literally stand their ground about what they call "FACTS" , but let me tell you a secret:

A LOT OF US DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT YOUR MONEY !!! And this is a straight fact ...

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Yes, there are Money Hungry Women, but there are also Money Hungry Men, let's try to not blame one gender only for their "GREED" and let's try to not PUT EVERYONE IN THE SAME CUP OF WATER...And let's focus on one gender only for now

You should not punish everyone else for what some people have done to you. TRY TO OPEN YOUR MIND AND PERCEPTION, if you are still being a stubborn bull, it only shows me and the REAL GENTLEMAN and AMAZING WOMEN out there how ignorant and discourteous you are.

YES there are the so called Gold Diggers, they really exist...and trust me I'm very against that "life style" but I'm also against offending them and judge them ...

WHY? Oh simply because I have better things to do instead of running my mouth about other peoples decisions or habits.

"What if it was your family member" - ( I know you would ask this lol )

I'd have an open discussion about it, if they still want to go on, I'm nobody to stop them, but I will be there to catch them when they fall with a nice " I TOLD YOU SO " phrase lol.

ew?

What I'm really saying is, that I'm not naive, I know just as much as you that there are gold diggers all around the globe, and YES I ALSO AGREE that at the end of the day the majority might be Women.

There also might be many reasons behind this particular statistic, but I'll save this dialogue with you guys in the comment section, i'd be glad to hear from you, if you think that there are ACTUAL VALID reasons behind this phenomenon and how could we prevent these lifestyles in the future.

How can we raise our future kids to be indipendent, how can we teach our girls that money is supposed to be earned the right way, even if we're the weaker sex, even if we earn less than men, we are still supposed to NOT GIVE UP and GIVE IN.

Oh, and how about we teach our boys what love really is, how about we teach them that they can't buy everything with money, or teach them how not to cross paths with an eventual money hungry woman.

AND SO ON... Sigh there is just so much to teach

Trust me when I say:

- I know plenty of women that put their emotions and love above Money;

- I know plenty of women that work hard and provide for their families without expecting their MEN to do so;

- I know pleny of women that would rather marry a poor man out of love than a rich guy that treats them badly;

- I know plenty of women that would not expect you Men to pay for their dates and don't get offended by it;

-I know plenty of women that don't even date rich folks on purpose because they don't want to be "THAT WOMAN WHO MARRIED RICH"

- There actually are women that ENJOY earning their own money.

- I know plenty of women that simply don't give a damn about your wallet, your car, your house, your watch and your status... trust me, there are plenty that even get turned off by these things (myself included) !!!!!!!!!

And I'm sure you also know pleny of WOMEN like all of the above.

SO HOW ABOUT YOU GIVE YOUR BRAIN AND MIND A NICE REFRESH

Let's try to not make us ALL look greedy and money hungry divas, because we're not ... some of us are but don't blame an antire gender for the mistakes of a few...

Also don't blame a clown for acting like a clown blame yourself for going to the circus and don't tell me you never see it coming ... I mean C'mon ...

Thank you for reading, you're all my inspiration

-D-

[Anonymous]

i will never forget one time back in 2005 an ex of mine bitched and complained that i wasn't working because i had been out of work for a few months even though i had been working for years and made way more money than she ever did and she never worked a single day in her life and i said to her when was the last time you worked and how many jobs have you had and who's living on their own vs who's sponging off their mommy and daddy and grandma and grandpa. needless to say she shut up after that. and after that heated argument between me and her, her parents forced her to get off her lazy ass and get a job and started working and helping out around the house financially. she was so pissed off after that. about a month or two later i dumped her ass

[natured]

You did good, nobody has a right to tell you WHAT TO DO, especially people that never worked... I'm sorry that you have been through this, it's sad. I hope you're in better company right now.
BUT YES, not all women are like your ex.

[KrakenAttackin]

@natured. Yes, women are all like his ex, it's just a matter of degrees.

[Opinion Owner]

@KrakenAttackin no not all women some don't care about money because they make their own. just childish immature ones and golddiggers care about money

[KrakenAttackin]

OP. Women who "make their own money" are even more likely to not tolerate a man who doesn't make a good living.

[MCheetah]

I can agree with most of what you said, but honestly, women who don't care about how much money you make seem to be in the minority. Almost any man will tell you this. So while most of what you say is true, you're trying to make the exception seem like the commonplace rule, when it's not. Even rich women won't date men who earn less money than them.

Everything every other guy said on here is valid. We know not all women are like this. The real problem is, too many of them are! I'd say at least half of all women are like this, and that's an underestimation.

[natured]

I still don't understand why you can't at least appreciate the minority, appreciate little things in life, allow the minority to make you at least say something positive. I don't get it honestly I don't...
You talk so easily about this issue as if it's natural to you.

[dray995]

Why? Because women like that are harder to find, if not impossible.

[natured]

@dray995 You're talking to one right now... and I know so many that are like me, I know many women that married men that don't have a dime in their pocket...

[dray995]

Yeah but you and those women seem to be the minority. Where are the rest of those women?

[natured]

@dray995 Just like good men are a minority, do you see me crying around? No... Why? Because I never gave up, i always gave life a chance, I always believed that there are good men, and trust me 90% of the men in life DID HURT ME, YET, i never even wasted one sweat to write a foul sentence for them. AND I APPRECIATED THE MINORITY, and it leaded me to happiness...

[dray995]

Good men aren’t the minority, it’s just that the bad guys player types usually get the women because they know how to act with women. The “Good Guy” often doesn’t and so they get looked down upon by society, told they don’t have a chance.

[natured]

Great now you understand and i'm giving you something back here:
Good WOMEN aren’t the minority, it’s just that the bad women player types usually get the men because they know how to act with men. The “Good WOMAN” often doesn’t and so they get looked down upon by society, told they don’t have a chance.
did you get it now?

[dray995]

Except that MOST women say they’d rather be with the bad guy because the “Good Guy” doesn’t do anything for them. So yeah, you can believe whatever you want but until you’re on this side of it, it’s easy for you to make the claim because you haven’t been on that side. Told you have to compete with jerks and losers just to get any type of women. It is infuriating. Many women claim to want a normal guy but would rather choose the jerk.

[dray995]

I’m not saying you do or calling you a liar, I’m just looking at reality. Society has conditioned men to think that way and well, if it were so easy, everyone would be dating and married by now but everything has become so complicated and overthought and so blown out of proportion. It makes life seem to impossible and dating seem so out of reach.

[MCheetah]

@natured
No one is saying the good women aren't appreciated. The issue is, if only 10% (and that's being generous) of women are good, and say, 25% of men are good, then that leaves a good 15% of good men still without a good woman, and likely frustrated because of it.

And yes, the reason I say there are more good men in the world than good women is because bad women often get to get away with their sh*tty behavior. Thanks to feminism, social media, simps, and general gynocentrism. Almost nobody calls out bitches for being bitches. And if they do, the bitch and/or the public tries to call it "sexism and misogyny." Few men who aren't extremely powerful can get away with being assholes outside of the dating world. Men in general don't put up with it.

We can appreciate the good ones out there, but still be upset that we live in a society that allows the bad ones to become so commonplace, let alone be allowed to flourish.

[natured]

As long as you guys get to sleep good at night, i'm fine with it. I got treated really badly by 90% of men in my life, and i had the most support from women, REALLY GOOD WOMEN. So i'm sorry if i'm not whining around like you of WHO IS GOOD AND WHO IS BAD and creating a false statistic here. This is not fair because you can't know THE WHOLE GLOBE you can't meet everyone in the wolrd to establish such a "legit" statistic. This is all in your head, YET, as long as you're good with it, i don't mind i still adore all of you guys don't get me wrong.
-Group hug? -

[45Fstraight]

I was going to say that I personally care more about a person's ambition than I care about their income. My husband and I have been married for a couple of decades. During that time, we lived an affluent life and we also went through bankruptcy and back again. I took extra jobs to help out during the rough patches, but never considered leaving him.

With that being said... I would never date an ambitious artist because he'd always be broke.

Go ahead, call me names people!

[natured]

I think everyone has the freedom to set their own standards, I don't think you deserve to be called a name at all, actually you are an amazing woman due to the fact that you actually where sticking to your husband through thick and thin, so why would i call you names? I wouldn't dare to
I respect women like you
-D-

[45Fstraight]

Awe. Thank you! ☺

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

👏👏👏 preach it!! Get so tired of these posts and replies that are meant to just bash women and lump all women the same..
And that they portray it like real facts when it's nothing more that false generalizations based off their personal bias. Great take!

[natured]

Exactly, thank you so much sunshine I appreciate it

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

💛💛 thank you.. Refreshing there's still "some" smart people on here🤗😊

[CookiesAndCream2]

Majority of women I know who don't care for money have few standards to be honest or coming from the poorer end of society don't have much expectation. Any guy is good enough for them. My neighbors are good examples.. barely made high school, all lower working class, and really no ambition or drive. Do the same old, same old day in and day out and both husband and wife bitch the entire time about how life is unfair.

Simple fact is most women want to know that their man can provide. It is instinct. For them and any future children. A man who has money or a stable job has more value than a man who does not. Anyone who says otherwise is a fool and a liar.
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The rare TRUE minority who don't care about money are women who are very self confident and usually have quite a bit of money to their names either through work, investment or inheritance. Why? Because for one they can support themselves and any children. If the man were to lose his job they're not going to be on the streets in six months.

[HawkPerception]

There are girls out there that are high quality and don't care about money. Those girls are in the minority though. Girls are generalized because the majority of them do value a man paying for their standard of life, expect them to pay their meals and if the man does not provide that standard of life, then they say "they're turned off". Do you know how many girls opinions I've read that say "I don't know why, but I'm definitely attracted more to the guy who pays for the date. It must be a biological thing." Girls live in a society where they are conditioned to believe they are the ones that should always be treated and that's how it should be so they will think there's nothing wrong with that mentality. Guys have also been conditioned to believe that they will never attract a quality girl if they do not pay and so they convince themselves that they genuinely like doing it and not paying makes them feel uncomfortable. But fact of the matter is, everyone likes a freebie.

There are not many girls that I would date nowadays.

[RockinRob10123]

I only had a couple a very long time ago. About 50 years. I was told that was what one woman had done in the past. I'm such a nice guy she wouldn't do that to me. She did but I got off easy. A few nights of drinking. Then I asked her to meet me and she asked if I had any money. I said, "No", and she said there's not much sense in meeting. And that was the end of her. I'm a homebody. I sold my car 5 years ago when I retired and moved here. Once a motel, now apartments. Know the difference between a motel room and an apartment that once was? The motel room costs about five times as much. lol Neighbors come and go about the same as a motel. All women should not, cannot, be thought of as the acting the same. I've also been with women that "fell" into a little money and she took me out. Been ripped off more by men than women. Treat everyone with respect. I grew up in the fifties and we were taught in kindergarten to treat girls with respect. A woman may get ya for a few nights out but a male friend might borrow your tools worth hundreds and disappear to another state.

[MzAsh]

I’ve always valued my independence regardless of my relationship status. I will always need to have my own money that I manage myself. And I’m that woman who would rather date a broke guy who treats me well as opposed to a rich asshole who works so much that he never has time for me and probably bangs his secretary behind his desk.
Gold diggers might have easy access to money but it’s usually not long term, and they’re still at the mercy of the man earning that money, which is a position I’d never want to be in.

[lucas262]

Girls I know saying they're strong and independent. But uo their boyfriend or mom and daddy or their orbiters to come pay a bill or fix a piece of furniture.

Neither strong nor independent. Equality? I'd te her to read a book or watch a video go to the hardware store fix your own furniture. Get a jjjjjob or side job and pay your bill. Nobody comes to save men. They want to be ,, strong and independent,, women gotta learn to save themselves.

Idc either way if you'll pay me for my time or you can do it alone just don't lie to me saying your 1 thing when you're not just because it sound good and strokes your ego. I hear it often

[MzAsh]

Being strong and independent doesn’t mean you never need help with anything. But if it becomes habitual and you’re constantly leaving on others to pay your bills and whatnot, that’s when I’d question how strong and independent one really is.

[Bogoboj]

Why do you consider this a bad thing?
I mean most people generalize because of actual bad and personal experiences and use generalization as a coping mechanism that eventually fades away.

And those that get more intense in their generalization like men that become MGTOW or incel, instead of thinking they are bad/evil for generalizing you women why not think how and why are they like that and is there something that can be done to help them out of this downward spiral.

I find that there is an extreme lack of sympathy and understanding from both genders here on GaG, people are either constantly on the offensive or constantly offended and this gets us nowhere!

[natured]

Yes, but I think there is a huge difference between actually OFFENDING and CRITISIZING.
If someone says to me " YOU'RE JUST LIKE ANY OTHER WOMAN, A GREEDY this and that" instead of literally making me THINK what is going on it's obvious i will get offended.
I do appreciate your comment a lot, out of all the guys here you made the best point. I can't seem to agree with this " coping mechanism" because it just lays down statistics that aren ot even realistic. I do agree with you that there is no sympathy and understanding at all just like you said. But sadly, it's a fact, and you are one of the mature ones that G@G needs !!
Thank you for reading and commenting

[Bogoboj]

And so what if you are offended!
It has no value at all it is useless.

Being offended comes from arrogance, jealousy and many other forms of greedy and selfish behavior and NOT from personal experiences especially traumatic experiences.

Once a while back when i was taking a walk i noticed a woman walking towards me and the moment she noticed me she clutched her purse and was shaking like a leaf, at that moment i felt very offended but then her friend came to me and said "sorry about that, she didn't mean anything by it but please understand she has been through a lot she was raped and beaten by a man that had your looks and stature" me being offended in this story has ZERO value it means NOTHING! An apology should have never been given! the only thing of value was that woman's experience!

So @natured do you think that the actual experiences of all these men are les valuable than you and all other women being offended by the result of those experiences!

@natured and all other people men and women please be offended and make generalizing people the worst thing a person can do instead of finding help for these people. make sure you show everyone just what a crappy and selfish humen you all are.

[Avicenna]

It’s certainly true that there is a minority of women that really don’t care, but most do to a large extent. It’s a huge part of hypergamy, but part of it is signaling- most women want to be able to show their friends, family and others that they have a good partner, and his financial status is a big part of that. Women can be very hard on other women when they think another woman’s partner is lacking. And there are some women that fear a man will become financially dependent on them at some point.

From my vantage point, women who are spendthrifts to varying extent are particularly prone to caring about a guy’s money. And differing spending habits can cause big stresses in relationships.
Instability caused by structural economic change has also become a factor, as well as the decline in the percentage of nuclear families that remain intact.

[natured]

It's sad because i have to adapt to what most of you say, but I wonder how come all my female friends (trust me i have a lot of female friends) think the same way, they are not money hungry, my mom is not money hungry, my aunts and cousins ain't... so where is the majority? At least not in my circumstances that's why I get so mad when people say MOST WOMEN and i even have to adapt because they get mad... people don't even want to hear good news anymore..
It's sad

[Avicenna]

Part of the problem is that is requires a lot of discipline to survive on a low salary with no savings (and it leaves no margin for something going wrong).
But if you’ve found what works for you, that’s great and you should be proud of yourself.

[CookiesAndCream2]

The irony is, the same could be said for men. Men rarely marry down excessively because then there's the financial downfall of having someone who can not support themselves or contribute to the family household. And in most cases with today's economy men who say they want a housewife not someone who works are either naive or stupid. So having a woman who makes money has more value than one who does not. And the more money she makes, the better

[natured]

Honestly i don't have huge savings, me and my partner both work and we make good money and we spend most of it, bills, rent, and so on and so far, but honestly we're pretty happy with our income and we can afford many things. Living in Italy is hard, but it's not impossible if you actually are careful how you spend and on what you spend. We make projects, we save money for vacations or a new TV but that's it, nowadays it's impossible to SAVE ACTUAL MONEY, especially if you don't have the help of your parents, me and him we had to build everything on our own without DADDIES HELP, and trust me, i'm proud of us :)

[Avicenna]

@CookiesAndCream2: That's generally true, and you make a good point about the cost of living being a factor, but there is more to it than that- a low-earning woman is likely much less educated than a high-earning man, meaning there are more likely to be communication difficulties and vastly different perspectives on handling money, raising kids, etc. The man has more to lose on this because of gynocentric family court systems.

[oddwaffle]

That's some anger. Unfortunately, you are dead wrong. Your grandparents probably have a better idea. Money is like lawyers. Everyone seem to hates it until you need it.

70% of all divorces is caused by financial reasons. It's not a one-hit hardship. It's like drowning quick sand and you can't breath. It keeps the pressure on until you break.



I have seen people jumping in front of a running car as a sales job (not scams). I know people have abandoned their children because of money too.

Of course you aren't poor so you aren't "greedy". Seen that too. Seen women sponsoring their boyfriend when the guy doesn't make enough for a living. It sapped the life out of them.

[Gespenster_division]

Your focusing on the extreme spectrum of women who are gold dig

gers.
Most women are not gold diggers but in general women will not accept as a partner who earns less than they do.

[natured]

Okay nice story bro, but can you at least be happy that NOT ALL WOMEN ARE? Is that so hard to understand? Is it so hard to get?

[Gespenster_division]

But in general most women are. I mean I was at school with a girl who is absolutely gorgeous, well educated and has a well paying job yet she set up home at the age of 18 with a 40 year old heroin addict so...

[Slartybartfast]

Men work more than women for the same reason women wear makeup. Telling a guy who's wife left after he got laid off a high paying job that women don't care about a man's income is like telling a rape victim it's because of what she was wearing. It's not only insulting, it shows a complete lack of understanding on the "let them eat cake" level if privilege.

A twelve year old boy KNOWS if he wants to be attractive to women he must out compete the other guys.

Women wait at the finish line and pick the winners.

[Anonymous]

None of the statistics or polling reflect that.
That's the problem.
It would seem that "knowing plenty of women..." doesn't make it the norm.
And often, when these ideas are interrogated, we find that it's still fundamentally the same thing underneath. It's just layered with semantics and rationalizations in an attempt to justify the same old thing.

Trust me, I would *fucking love* proven wrong, to find that women don't care about the things we are so frequently told they care about, because I have trouble reconciling those things with my attraction to them. But unfortunately, time and again they appear not to reflect what you say they are.

[Unit1]

I LOVE THIS 😍😍😍

That's what I'm talking about!
Thank you for sharing this wonderful piece 😁👐👏👐👏👐👏
Stay awesome!

[natured]

Thank you I appreciate it

[Anonymous]

My granny says "money is poison" and I think it's seriously very true given how many rifts money brings about in relationships. I can say that because I've seen that happen a lot.

I honestly, don't like to bring money into my romantic relationships. I always go for simple dates where we can each pay for our own stuff. The focus of my life is not money. I was just not raised like that, but I see the extremely big obsession with materials and money in my entourage. I know there are a lot of people who share my opinions.

That being said, I'm not naive enough to believe that all women are like me. Some of them are really big snakes lmao

But then again, it has nothing to do with gender in my opinion. Men can be real big gold diggers too. lol

[Aakash_Hangargi]

Money isn't poison but people's mentality is life is something you never know a bad person uses the money to do good to society but same persons earns it the wrong way.

But it helps some who are in need.

So it's all in your hands money is energy it doesn't know Good or bad it's the people how they use it

[Opinion Owner]

@Aakash_Hangargi kinda like poison

[Lionman95]

Thank you allthough I wouldn´t say all women gold-diggers and are just interested in a guy´s money I think it´s good to point that out again. Especially online where people tend to put generalized comments about certain groups and sexes it´s a good reminder.

[NightHawk99]

Ysee here's the thing. Because there's so few good women and so many bitches out there that get away with all kinds of things, we're playing the same "all men are bad" game the women play against us. I mean hell, if it stops me from getting falsely accused of some shit, it works.

Sometimes ya gotta fight fire with fire. 😛

[siseñor]

lol if that's the case then make sure to only direct that move toward the ones who rlly think all men are bad tho, bc a lot of women are sick of being caught in the crossfire

[NightHawk99]

We men are sick of it too. :)

[natured]

See this is where you are very wrong, because you yet refuse to appreciate the FEW, tou refuse to be happy with the little that gets offered to you... guess what this is life, and it's up to us. If you're never happy with the little things in life, you will never be happy, you will run around bashing from left to right and complain about everything... what will you get out of this? Nothing, so how about you take a moment and appreciate US women me included, and I would never say a word such as " ALL MEN ARE BED" because i know that they are not, and i'm already preparing a " I KNOW PLENTY OF MEN" as well...
I appreciate your comment though thank you

[NightHawk99]

I'm not the only one refusing to appreciate THE FEW. Besides, there's plenty of other things outside of this petty gender war that I appreciate a lot more.

[Anonymous]

Finally a girl who says it out loud!
I have been having this fight all around!
So many times in polls here, questions like "Girls, do you care about money" Or "Girls, would you date a guy that makes less than you?" all over the place. AND when the vast majority of girls answer on the poll and comments under say "No" and "Of course" respectively, guys call then liars.
ARE YOU SHITTING ME?
You ask and then you don't believe it? Dude it hasn't been 100 years since women can open bank accounts without a men! Of course before they had to like dudes with money! They had no education and couldn't do much for their independance! NO CHOICE! Now they can so they don't give a fuck about money. Most don't anyway. As long as you are not a lazy blob on the couch you will be fine on that department!

[curiousbeing6169]

Yeah i like a dominany women who is independent and don't giva a damn about money

[curiousbeing6169]

Are you a dominant women?

[natured]

I'm pretty neutral, i don't classify into any category to be honest. sometimes i'm dominant sometimes i'm submissive, it depends on the mood and the moment... and it's fine by me this has nothing to do with the article though but thank you for reading.. i guess

[curiousbeing6169]

Yes , yours welcom i like the article then a sudden thought pops up in mind , though i love being submissive and dominating too , you can hit me on my mail at nonamefff6169@gmail. com , if you want so , just don't mind if said something weird , lol

[jamesgoldman]

I care about money because without emotions, not being in anyway whatsoever considered as anything close to attractive and having a slew of health conditions slugging it out to be top of the bill on my death certificate

What else can I offer, I offer those services to friends (so far one is up £50,000 from my direct advice) and it is the only thing I understand inside and out and without that I know I'd be dead already

[TheOracle10]

Lol, quite the tangent to go on, it isn't hard to explain why women want resources in a man. Stop being so resistant to the idea that women enjoy a man who can provide and has funds. Not every wealthy man is a fucking cunt like you see in movies, which is what you seem to be drawing most of your assumptions from.

[natured]

Honestly I never said it, i know rich people that are amazing folks. But i am forced socially to use phrases like "I'd rather be with someone poor that loves me rather than someone rich that treats me badly"
Because as soon as I say the opposite i will get attacked from the G@Ghyenas telling me I'm a gold digger.
So i have to carefully put examples since people can't wait to actually judge the heck out of you.
Thank you for readin though and I absolutely agree with you.

[TheOracle10]

Say what you really think, and if you are right, defend yourself and you will be fine.

[natured]

Already did :) try to read again the MyTake that's all i can say

[Aiko_E_Lara]

That's this same with "I know plenty of men (Body Version)

More and more women generalizing men

[natured]

Trust me, I will work on a MyTake about this as welll it was already on my mind so I promise you'll get to se a MyTake about this issue as well. I support both genders in general but i cannot support generalization

[Aiko_E_Lara]

I never said I don't trust you. I'm just here addressing the other side of the story.

[natured]

How about focusing on the main part of it for one time... thank you

[Aiko_E_Lara]

As i've focused, I see it's one sided so I said the other part. So stop being presumptuous. thank you

[Aiko_E_Lara]

*other side

[Aakash_Hangargi]

@natured - I am just curious you use the term trust me a lot why is that.

Just saying when you use it a lot it becomes harder to trust.

Trust me on this 😃

[Aakash_Hangargi]

Like your writing though 🤠

[Yourfriend2021]

Sadly the women you are talking about are a small percentage and hard to find. Girls on GAG follow me and then ask me to send them money? I have 2 cars, a very expensive sports car and a small economy car, women treat me differently when I'm driving in each one, what does that say? No, not all women are the same, but as you get older, you can see what the majority are.