Why are women so materialistic?

[Anonymous]

Is freeking ridiculous... we, men, have to buy them everything, just so we can please them and keep them happy in the relationship. Why aren't there more women out there who care just about her man and nothing else.

I blame feminists and their stupid arguments that women aren't equal to men in the Western World when they clearly are... more than 100 years ago they didn't have the right to vote, but now they do and more on top of it...

When it comes to who keeps the child after a divorce, the woman has all the say in it. The dad has to sit there and wait for a decision to be made. In most cases he'll only see the kid once or twice a week AND will have to pay for child care.

Are we growing into a more, and more feminised society?

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[Levin]

Some women are materialistic, and want a certain threshold wealth from a guy. They won't find it from me, so let them. You've gotten this the wrong way around. You might feel like you are losing out, but in fact, they are the ones losing out, since they won't get to experience what else I can offer in a relationship. It leaves me to concentrate on a purer kind of connection.

Your whole argument is based on generalisations. You're forgetting , that both women and men, on the whole, hold pretty unsavoury and superficial views. It doesn't affect me; since I don't subscribe to that bullshit and falsehood, I can have much better relationships. Let people ravage each other and the planet with their stupidity. They will, no matter what I say in the matter. They will only learn when their misdeeds come back to bite them on the arse, and affect them personally.

You sound quite resentful towards women. What's the real root of it?

[Asker]

FFS I'm not generalising nor am I'm I trying to... I wish GAG users stopped blowing things out of context.

SOME WOMEN hold these materialistic necessities, and yes they aren't living relationships to the fullest of extent. They are also abusing their power, and image, as a woman and often complain when their man starts to realise it and puts his foot down.

Resentful towards women? Now you've just walked over the fine line of absurdity... I'm in a relationship with a woman, do I resent her? of COURSE I FUCKING DON'T...

What I can't stand is how some of my closest friends are being treated.

[Insaan]

Thanks for not generalising.
Also it is like give and take relationship since division of task in ancient times where man goes for hunt , brings home food , provide protection to her and in return as compliment she gives you sex , kids, household chores and sex which we men are fond of.
Although everything has changed in modern world but similar trait still exists in accordance of modern world.

[Asker]

If that was sarcasm, you can go do one.

Not ALL men demand these things, and that's what feminists tend to ignore. Some of us want to be at the same level as women. It's indeed the feminists who tend to generalise men into this "misogynistic" category... the double standard here is that a woman making a stand for her rights is just fine and should receive a lot of praise... on the other hand a man standing for his rights and his cause is seen as discriminatory and woman-hating.

As I've pointed out before: feminism doesn't exist anymore, or at least shouldn't ; all they do is promote "equality" by favouring the female sex... which isn't equality.

[Insaan]

"NOT ALL men demand these things"
Hmmmmmm
Similarly,
NOT ALL women demand these things...

[Asker]

Lol wtf?

[XRabbitHeartX]

I feel like this is one of those things people always talk about on the internet but then in real life I seldom see it. I'm not materialistic and none of my female friends will expect a guy to pay for everything or make that the base of their relationship. I feel like sometimes men allow this and should see that a woman is acting like a gold digger. If you as a man allow it to happen then it's sort of your own fault. Plenty of girls aren't like that so go find women who aren't materialistic if it annoys you or angers you. I know guys who actually will downright admit that they love taking care of their partners and find joy in giving gifts or treating their girl. So it goes both ways. People have different things they like or look for. It's on you to find someone who suits what you are looking for.

[Slavanna]

Here's your answer: people like to cherry pick. How does that apply here? Simple. Know the fucked up conservatives who are supposedly pro-life and support death sentence? Know the atheists who want to be respected by theists despite talking shit about the latter? It's the same mechanism. These women wanna maintain their ancient AND modern privileges without taking any of the duties upon themselves. Some women may like the husband earning money for them and taking care of the household; others wanna pursue their own career and thus take financial responsibility for themselves. And then there are the ones who won't take responsibility but still wanna leech on their men. That's just the way some women are.

[Anonymous]

Some are because they cannot get real love from man (just mostly physical/sex) so they feel loved through material stuffs since it won't hurt them unlike humans that can hurt them...
Some are because they don't value much deep within.. they value physical world more by being materialistic (shop till they drop) just like some men too who values material (from fancy cars to branded clothes).
In short, because they feel good and secure having these material stuffs. And just a note, if some women are using men to buy them stuffs, some men are like that too using women to buy them stuffs..
I've known many who are victims of this and I feel bad and sorry for them..

[Asker]

Probably the best suited answer for this question. No heckling, no hassling.

Thanks

[Opinion Owner]

Welcome and thanks too..

[Anonymous]

So the only unequal thing between men and women is the fact that women were unable to vote at some point in time? Lmao... and now we want MORE? Lol that's such a typical male argument. "We already gave you the right to vote, WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT WAAH WAAH!"
I've never given a shit about presents. You can keep your damned presents because I don't want them.
And child custody? Please. The mother has to pay for the child too, you know. And pretty much every person I know who has divorced parents have been at both parents' houses pretty equally (either in a week-to-week kind of thing or a month-to-month thing). So the cases are pretty damn individual. And men can still fight in court, nobody has ever said that all they get to do is sit back and let the mother decide.

[Asker]

I'm not saying you want more... read properly please... I'm saying that you got the right to vote and now you are given more.

So why are feminists asking for more? especially the inconsiderate radical ones? ... if men make a stand against them we are called misogynists...

Look at the uproar on Twitter about Elliot Rodger... women are classifying ALL men as the same as him.

[Opinion Owner]

It's because we still want to change attitudes, gender stereotypes and double standards.
So, I guess you're implying that it's annoying that women are classifying all men as the same as Elliot Rodger? Look at your own post, man. You're being a hypocrite. You're doing the exact same thing, saying that we all are materialistic, that we all want to be showered with presents and that men have no say in custody cases. You're also making generalizations. Maybe you should practice what you preach before you preach it.
This is what feminists want to change: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K2kfgW7708
Women doing the same thing as men. Men being praised for it, and women being bashed for it. That's what we want to change. We also want men the same liberty - to do things women do without being bashed for it. That's kind of one of the main points of feminism.

[Opinion Owner]

we also want men to have the same liberty*

[Asker]

Like Zombiewhatever you're blowing this out of pretext... I didn't say "all" you buffoon, I'm solely pointing out there are lot of materialistic girls/women out there, and they certainly outweigh the non-materialistic type.

Feminism shouldn't exist in the West anymore... all (radical) feminists do now is want "equality" by favouring the female sex: which isn't equality may I dare say.

Some of those "stereotypes" are just push overs, they literally made my skin crawl at how absurd they are.

Some, though, I agree with - especially the "boss/bossy" one.

One thing I can't stand is the "how women are portrayed by the media" argument... ALL THESE WOMEN GIVE CONSENT TO SHOW OFF THEIR BODIES, why should they have the right to heckle about it?

[Opinion Owner]

"Why are *women* so materialistic?"
"we, men, have to buy *them* everything"
"just so we can please *them* and keep *them* happy in the relationship"
If you didn't mean "all" women, you should have written "some", you buffoon. Do you know anything about grammar and context? When you say "why are women so materialistic", you're basically saying "why are (all) women so materialistic". "Men have to buy them everything" = "men have to buy (all of) them everything". How is that hard to understand? This is stuff you learned in kindergarten.

Feminism is needed in the West because there are still sexist attitudes here. Women are still being blamed for being raped. Ever heard of the Steubenville rape case? People were more concerned over the fact that the rapists' futures were "destroyed", instead of caring about the girl who most probably has become traumatized for life. Women are still being harassed on the streets. Women are still being treated as sex objects.

[Opinion Owner]

Some people still think that women shouldn't be allowed to vote or work. That our place is in the kitchen. That we should be seen and not heard. That we're sluts if we enjoy having sex with various different men. How is that equal to you?

[Asker]

Of course sexism still exists in the West, against women AND men alike. But is it going to completely disappear? NO of course not, just like homophobia and xenophobia. We can do everything to try and get rid of these frankly pathetic infringements on human rights, but they'll live with us for all eternity unfortunately.

No one should be blamed for rape other than the rapist him/herself.

But, and I can picture the state of your face when you read this: SOME women are asking to be raped, just like SOME men are asking to be stabbed or shot.

Why, you may ponder? Wearing short, tight skirts stands out to rapists, they see you as "easy" ... just like everyone else (including other women) does.

Walking home alone, drunk, is another way of ensuring you might get raped too.

I haven't heard or am I bothered to read about the rape case you've brought up, because in all rape cases I've heard from here in the UK (minus inter family rapes), happened when a woman was returning

[Asker]

home alone from a party without asking someone to accompany her, preferably a trusted friend from the opposite sex.

Another thing women tend to forget, or often disagree with (SOME men forget it too) is that you are far more fragile physically than us - don't try and deny it or heckle me.

Another thing is SOME women tend to forget that men are just as sensitive as you - this is something which has been drowned in media, just like the woman's sexuality has too in SOME cases.

Men are expected to be mentally strong, but we aren't - take a look at the Elliot Rodger case for instance, he was bullied to a point of vendetta and suicide because women wouldn't accept him.

[Opinion Owner]

People used to make the same argument about women wanting to vote. "Oh you're crazy, it has always been like this and it'll always be like this, deal with it". So no, it's not pointless to fight for what's right.
Also, it has been proved over and over that rapists very rarely look at girls who dress provocatively. Most of the time it's about power/dominance, opportunity and projecting their hatred for someone (or women in general) with the act of rape. Soldiers raping women in the countries they invade is about humiliating the men of that country etc etc etc. Very rarely do rapists actually remember what their victims were wearing, and most of the time the rape is between a woman and one of her male friends/acquaintances, or even her husband/boyfriend. Why the FUCK do you think women are asking for it? Why the FUCK do you think anyone WANTS to be raped? You're truly sick.

[Opinion Owner]

rapists very rarely look FOR girls who dress provocatively*

[Opinion Owner]

Elliot Rodger wasn't bullied. He was a self-entitled twat that expected everything to go his own way. He never made an effort to ask any girl out, and he never made an effort to befriend anyone. He always expected people to come to him. That was his problem. That, and the fact that he was a mentally ill creep.

[Asker]

"Very rarely do rapists actually remember what their victims were wearing"

Are you stupid, of course they don't, all they care about is satisfying their grotesque urges.

"People used to make the same argument about women wanting to vote" ... voting is not in the same context as rape... voting is a right for both men and women.

"Why the FUCK do you think anyone WANTS to be raped? You're truly sick." again, that's you being a tad bit uneducated... ASKING for something, doesn't necessarily mean you WANT IT... When I'm talking about certain women ASKING to be raped... it means that the clothing they wear, or the words they speak incite rapists to target them. ...

"rapists very rarely look FOR girls who dress provocatively*" ... lame correction... By now you should already have read that I was pointing out that rapists will see a lone woman dressed in mini shirt and fish nets as an "easy" target.

[Opinion Owner]

Loooolll asking for something doesn't mean you necessarily want it? Ok I'm done. Peace bro.

[Asker]

Someone needs to go back to schoooooooool :3

If you keep throwing tantrums at school, regardless of the warnings given by your teachers that you'll be expelled, is ASKING for it to happen. And being expelled from your school isn't something you want is it.

[ironeddie]

@QA - "By now you should already have read that I was pointing out that rapists will see a lone woman dressed in mini shirt and fish nets as an "easy" target."
"
When I'm talking about certain women ASKING to be raped... it means that the clothing they wear, or the words they speak incite rapists to target them. ..."

Wearing short, tight skirts stands out to rapists, they see you as "easy" ... just like everyone else (including other women) does.

"Walking home alone, drunk, is another way of ensuring you might get raped too."

"because in all rape cases I've heard from here in the UK (minus inter family rapes), happened when a woman was returning home alone from a party without asking someone to accompany her, preferably a trusted friend from the opposite sex."

"take a look at the Elliot Rodger case for instance, he was bullied to a point of vendetta and suicide because women wouldn't accept him."

[ironeddie]

Pt 2

"it means that the clothing they wear, or the words they speak incite rapists to target them. ..."

If all the rape cases you've heard of in the UK a woman was by herself returning from a party. You really need to get out in the world more.

I work for a major Police Service here in Canada. Back in 2008 & 2009. Our area suddenly had a sharp increase in the number of sexual assaults/rapes. We collected stats to find commonalities. I was involved in this study uploading data into our computer system.We decided to take it a couple steps further. We collected stats from major police departments across North America. As well as London England, Glasgow, Belfast and Dublin.
Approximately (I don't recall the exact figures) 70-75% of all attacks happened in daylight hours. Roughly Less than 15% of the time the women were dressed "provocatively". Around 10% were teenage girls wearing school uniforms. The rest of the victims were wearing slacks/jeans or business attire.

[Opinion Owner]

Thank you for giving some perspective, ironeddie.

[ironeddie]

In all cases the woman were alone or with a female friend. Yes there were occurrences where it was females who were returning from bars/parties.

For the life of me I can not figure out how you get the idea the way women speak may set them up for a rape.

Elliott - I may have missed something but how many times was he bullied and/or not excepted by women for him to do what he did? 1000? 100? 10? 1?
Oh my god. He was a 22 year old virgin. I'm just glad he didn't have the power to make the earth stop spinning. He was a narcissistic, psychotic, pissed off, lunatic. Not to mention his autism/aspergers. He was a time bomb. That was going to blow eventually. Whether it was this. Or his employer doesn't pay that nut job the millions Elliot thinks he's worth.
He would be the type to kill all the employ at a bank. Because that's where the money comes from. Right?

I won't go into the other garbage you posted.

[BrunetteNYC]

It's crazy to hear these women are all about moneys stories, because I've ALWAYS taken care of myself, paid my own way. I detest people who use other people for money. All I can say is maybe you need a more independent girl who has pride enough to make her own $$ so you won't fear she's trying to use you?

My observation honestly is that some women, after a man has burned them, cheated and really hurt them, will turn into a gold-digging bitch as a way to get even.

[Dzindzer]

I am materialistic, but I don't want others to buy it for me. It's more fulfilling for me if I buy it myself. :)

I hope I don't get divorced, but if I do I will let my ex see the kids. It's not their fault that we can't be together.

[Anonymous]

Men generally only have to buy, but, but if they want a woman who is far better looking than they are. Essentially, the guy is sacrificing love and mutual attraction to get better looks in his partner. These unbalanced relationships often use money as leverage.

[xzinax2]

you're an idiot.
the 'men pay and have power over society-women fuck them' system was set up by men, because they wanted to have control over women's bodies. feminism wants to fight that, the basis of feminism has always been communism (aside from the third wave that is, and even they just want to make money themselves).

[Asker]

Stop dwelling in the past you degenerate... Look how much society has opened up to not just women, but gays and the like too.

Well if you think Feminism is based off communism (lol @ that) ... then Feminism is flawed just like Communism was, and still is.

[xzinax2]

''dwelling in the past'' WOW THANK YOU OVERLORD FOR GIVING ME THE RIGHT TO VOTE, NOT FUCKING SURE WHY I HAD TO FIGHT FOR IT ANYWAY BUT GOOD GOLLY THANKS. if you call having your right to an abortion be questioned, being under constant threat of rape and murder, being socialized into submissiveness, getting payed less, being ignored by employers, having your health endangered because men are still the standard in medical studies, your rapist being able to get custody-''opening up'', i'd hate to fucking see what it's like when it's closed.
communism and feminism HAVE always been together, if you knew anything about either, you'd know that. and ask yourself how capitalism is working out, if it's so ''flawless''

[Asker]

Paid*

Capitalism works a lot better than Communism - the facts are every where; facts you seem to fail to see.

Feminism and Communism are only equal on the level of equality of pay, etc... but Communism is based on a meritocracy... Feminism isn't. So I think I know a little more than you do pipsqueak :)

You talk about a woman's OBVIOUS right to abortion because it's her body, etc... yeah, fine... but what about the husband's/partner's say in it? it's his fucking kid too isn't it.

You're so delusional... no girl I know, and trust me I know a lot of them are complaining like you are about woman's rights. My mum who's 52 is the head of a major sector of the NHS and has never, not even once complained of her pay... you know why because she makes well over £100 000 !!! Does she complain about her superior, or someone working at the same level as her, who happens to be male and paid slightly more than her? NO...

See when you talk about difference in pay

[Asker]

it's usually a fractional amount that feminists (you) blow heavily out of proportion. You'd still be complaining if you received the same pay, because maybe you didn't receive it in the same quality letters as your male counter-part did, or you felt as if your boss was being too smug with you when he handed your annual to you... FEMINISM will always exist because MISOGYNY will always exist too... it goes both ways... I think y'all need to pucker up and deal with it to be honest.

[xzinax2]

how about you actually ask the people who lived under socialism what they think of capitalism. here's a fucking hint-they hate it and want to go back, every study has shown this, and i live in one of those countries.
literally what are you talking about with meritocracy? that has nothing to do with anything here?
what ABOUT his ''right''? is he giving birth to it? no? so shut up.
right let's completely ignore that jil abramson was recently fired for having the nerve to ask for equal pay. let's ignore that equal pay was voted against this year. let's forget that people still aren't allowed to know how much their coworkers are paid, for obvious reasons.

[Asker]

Did you live under Socialism?

And of course they're going to disagree with Capitalism you muppet, they're on opposite ends of the politcal spectrum (HUGE FACE PALM).

This is why Russia "hated" the US so much, and still does today.

Meritocracy is something belonging to Communism and not Feminism...my point that Feminism has next to nothing in common with Communism you bimbo.

God there is so much wrong with your last comment... bahahahaha.

If you got pregnant for a reason other than getting raped. SEE THIS IS IT, why is it to do so much with who's giving birth - a man should have a say in it, end of - not the FINAL say , but A say.


THAT whole last bit is in the US (lol)

[Asker]

You're really coming across as a man hater now.

[xzinax2]

you idiot, they had both-and want socialism. capitalists took over-people want to go back. people literally cry over this in my country.
if you think feminism and communism have nothing to do with each other i suggest you PICK UP A FUCKING BOOK. this is talked about even in the communist manifesto, not to mention engels who really focused on it. emma goldman and all the other women in communism were feminists. the AFWM was formed from feminist groups.
it makes a difference when you have to carry a child for nine months, give birth, and be the primary caretaker.
i don't hate all men-i like marx, i like engels. i like the comrades i know. i like the rock. i like paul mccartney. you? you i don't like.

[xzinax2]

wow, great, i wonder why women think men are misogynists? look at you being lovely, calling be a cunt and a bitch because you're too stupid to argue with me.

[Asker]

You're one woman... not the whole female population. You're the cunt.

Too stupid know? ... I just can't deal with stubbornness...

[xzinax2]

great, keep using gendered slurs , just ignore the argument and avoid admitting that you know nothing about feminism and are just here to whine.

[Asker]

dude. W-H-A-T-E-V-E-R.

[Anonymous]

You don't have to buy a woman anything. If a condition of the relationship is buying her material things, then she isn't worth your time. And by the way, even though there are plenty of them out there, not all women are like that.

[Asker]

Again, you've misunderstood. I'm clearly talking about SOME women... if I was saying ALL women I'd be a misogynist, which I'm clearly not.

[ILoveChocolatey]

Not ALL women are like thag, but as a women myself, i totally agree with you. I think some women think that buying them luxuries will show how much their man loves them.

[hopromantic]

I know im not! I dont ask my baby for much and when I do it only cost him around $8 or less most the time its for food though lol

[meibay313]

Not all girls are like that haha :) I used to buy stuffs for my ex.. Not all women are materialistic nor men...hope you find a good girl friend who isn't materialistic :)

[zombiebabe]

dude you can't generalize the fact that all women are materialistic!! when i'm in a relationship..i care about the person i'm dating, not about things i wants him to buy for me..i like to buy my own stuff and don't need a man to do it

[Asker]

Did I say "all" women... stop pushing things into my mouth that I've never said.

Stop lying to yourself too, you have a secret desire that your man buys you stuff.

[zombiebabe]

you are wrong dude...i often told him that he doesn't have to buy stuff for me since he does not know if i might really like it or not..he only gave me a bracelet once it was at the beginning of the relationship and i was frank towards him i told him that this isn't the type of stuff i like..since this day i told him not to buy anything for me..because i prefer buying my own things

[Asker]

"he doesn't have to buy stuff" ... you know what that tells him? "Buy me stuff on you run the risk of me ending it" ... A girl who doesn't even mention if he should buy presents or not is a girl worth being with.

[Insaan]

You are frustrated brah (°_°)

[Asker]

If you're going to butt into a chilled discussion with the word "brah", you can quite calmly fuck off yourself.

[zombiebabe]

hey dude i don't know what a girl did to you but you can't act mean to everywoman

[Asker]

"hey dude i don't know what a girl did to you but you can't act mean to everywoman" ... OMFG are you seriously going there now?

I'm not doing this because of past experience... I don't give a hoot about my exes, all I care for now is my current GF and her well being...

AGAIN I'm NOT generalising women, I'm not sticking every single women into one category like I've previously stated...

I'm assuming you're a feminist too since you're failing to see my point and/or are ignoring it.

[Insaan]

Haha okay... I understand that you are in pain. So i won't argue much. Western world is facing heavy number of crises in relationship matters.
I don't think you are ready for constructive criticism.

[Asker]

In pain... why should I be in pain? lol

[harakiri]

Dolce & Gabbana (Fendi & Madonna)
It's what I breathe for.

[Anonymous]

You do realise that the argument you made about feminist are exactly what they are against right?

[Asker]

What? that they're asking for more? ... Have you even bothered to read the hate messages women have left of twitter, and that stupid #YesAllWomen bullshit... We're sitting here expecting to believe all men are like that Rodger fuck wit? ... Some of us are warm, loving men willing to give everything to a girl, but they decide to fuck themselves over...

P.S I'm not a virgin, nor am I single... I'm backing my fellow males who are living in shit.

[Opinion Owner]

No they don't want you to do any of those things...

You do realise the #Yesalllwomen does not mean all guys right. It just means what all women have to put up with...

[Asker]

See that's where you're wrong. I've noticed 80-90% of the time these women on Twatter are taking advance of this case to bash and heckle men for some reasons unbeknownst to us: reasons I think to be man-hate.

[Michellemily]

Whats your defenition of feminism?

[Asker]

The same as yours of course: Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies aimed at defining, establishing, and defending equal political, economic, cultural, and social rights for women.[1][2] This includes seeking to establish equal opportunities for women in education and employment. A feminist advocates or supports the rights and equality of women.

HOWEVER in Western civilisation it's taken a turn or the worst.

[Michellemily]

Over here a woman will have the same education as a man take the same job as a man do the same amout of work as the man and will still get paid less. of example 2 a woman will have the same academic career as a man will have the same or even more expierience as the man and the man will get promotod and get some type of executiv position but the woman won't. and im from a western country. an im pretty sure its not a problem only my country deals with. on top of that comes the cultural thing you can walk around wearing whatever you want but if i wear shorts in summer im definitely looking for attention. i know that it probably doesn't seem that bad to you but only because you don't have to deal with it on a daily basis. thats why i think feminism is still very important

[Michellemily]

and back to your original question. you said you blame feminsm for some woman being materialistic but if you actually think about it its the exact opposite. i think feminism actually benefits men too. The woman that are so materialistic think you're the man so you have to pay. that goes back to when men were the people earning money so they would buy the woman that was staying home stuff. now imagine all the woman that still have this old thinking in their head would have been raised to think you go out there and get your own job cause you are equal to men. if someone would have told them that they don't have to play the passiv one in the entire dating process. Do you think there would still be so many of them? i doubt it