(For both Women and Men) Why is it that is so hard now a days?
Why have woman and Modern day Feminisim made it so hard for causal sex to occur between genders? It's nothing like it was for our Parents generation, It's like we live totally different realities. For a good 80 percent of men today, lead sexless lives in the Modern world. Casual sex (outside of committed relationships) is near impossible for I'd say 65% of men. Remember ego plays a huge part in men and a lot of Men would rather lie than to admit they don't get laid regularly. Another 15% in the middle can get it sporadically and mostly luck based, 10% can get it fairly consistently. Most men have to trade a large, possibly unsustainable output of emotional labor to get sex via committed relationships, and its often more of the duty sex variety. In comparison to an average woman, it's much harder for an average guy to get laid. Men are far more likely to desire sex without any commitment than women are, so the market for easy, random sex is very lopsided in women's favor. Men generally have to maintain much lower standards than women do for hookups. Honestly I don't think that the average man (not the top 20-25% attractive successful males who 90% of woman tend to chase) can reliably get casual sex, although the average man has relationships, and he has sex in those relationships in todays modern world. Many Woman have no idea how this effects Men's Physical and Mental health after time. Are Woman's standards really that high in the Modern World? Is there any hope for males out there who'd actually like to have a Relationship with a Woman?(but are constantly rejected by the opposite gender)
Or is this a harsh reality many Men are just going to have to deal with in this Era?
Or are we just in the middle of a massive change in Biological History where Dynamics between both Genders are changing at a massive rate? Shit ain't easy out here. lol
Everyone can get laid. Don't perpetuate the misconception that women don't want to have sex. That's one of the reasons men who think like this can't have casual sexual encounters. Almost everybody likes sex. As such, all you have to do is find someone you would like to have sex with, and see if they would like to have sex with you too. There's no massive gender shift, there's no woman overlord revolution to oppress men and make it to where women only pick 15% of men to have sex with. You and other guys like you just have unrealistic expectations. Don't expect to find the perfect person, because perfection doesn't exist, and stop pretending women don't like sex. Once you do that, just start talking to people in appropriate settings. Go to bars, go to clubs, go to trivia night at the pizza place down the street. Ask innocuous questions like if they want to grab a drink or whatever and just start talking to people. Don't go out only expecting to get laid, go out looking to meet people. Just let life happen from there. And don't make up statistics.
You also have the wrong outlook on sex, where it's this prize you can obtain when you win at something. You can't have sex online, just go talk to people in real life settings. And seriously, don't make up statistics.
I'm not saying that Woman don;t like having sex, what I'm saying is that woman in todays world are a lot more selective with who they pick to have sex with. That I do agree with but Yes women do only chase the top 20-25 % of men. Of course there's a massive gender shift going on in todays world. We dont meet people the same way our parent generation did, or interact with them the same way.
That's just patently untrue. There's a reason we call it the average. The average woman and the average man are a 5 on a 1-10 scale. You can say with flexibility a 4-6 is average. So the average woman, a 5, cannot just decide she will only have sex with an 8-10 man. And because there is no objective beauty in people, everyone's attractiveness scale will be different. There is no such thing as chasing the top 20% of men. There is no top 20%. What are you rating them on? Money? Looks? Both? Penis size? None of those? Some men have some, one, all, none. Everyone else in this thread that disagrees with you has just as much life experience as you on the matter. Your experience is just different from other people's. I watch my average friends go out and get laid all the time. I do it too on occasion, but I'm far less sexually active or attractive. You're projecting your limited experiences onto the entire human race.
Everyone can get laid. This is not a generalization. If you have functioning genitalia, you can have sex with someone. I have seen motorized wheelchair bound people form full relationships with people and be able to have sex in spite of physical disabilities, things like cerebral palsy or MD. I've seen 400 pound people who couldn't walk without a scooter sporting wedding rings and partners with children. Everybody can get laid as long as they have the equipment.
Have I watched my friends have sex? Absolutely not. But it's like walking outside and seeing everything soaked and puddles on the ground and dark clouds overhead. You might not have watched the rain fall, but it obviously rained. The children of the obese woman didn't spawn out of her side. Even if she and her husband smelled like a sewer, they had to have fucked at some point to make those kids.
Online dating always has a lot more men than women. I think in real life scenarios men are a lot more likely to want a random hook up than a woman, hence women have more choice if they choose to do this.
From reading GAG men want hook ups more than women. But women want relationships more than men.
thats a myth. its the other way around. women want hookups while guys want relationship. i think you are talking about the dudes have so many options of women they only want hookups.
It shouldn't be easy for u to get laid just like that. That would mean that the majority of girls would just freely go around undressing themselves to satisfy ur wishes, but that's not how it works bud. Sex is an intimate thing so, although u may be comfortable doing it with whoever, whenever, many others are not. I realize finding a meaningful relation with someone is difficult and we all have sexual needs, but you gotta focus your energy on something else I don't know that's what I do personally.
Many women value their virginity, and for a lot of women regular casual sex with different men is a slutty thing to do. A key that can open any lock is a great key, but a lock that opens to any key is a shitty lock, so to speak. This sounded so whiney... why should WE have to lower our standards for YOU? Oh, Iām sorry. Is us wanting to maintain our dignity hurting you emotionally? Maybe you phrased some of this the wrong way, but it definitely rubbed me wrong the way it was said.
I can see where it might come off as whiney but it's a reality a lot a men have to deal with. I'm just trying to be as transparent as possible. If I was a woman I'd be commended for it but I'ma guy so guys tend to look down on each other especially on guys who can't get girls. "Ah bro you can't get pussy, man up, stop being a bitch" After a while it becomes more than just sex you start to appreciate actual relantionships with the opposite sex, by then it's too late.
Ah. There really isnāt anything wrong with not being able to find casual sex, especially at your age. Most younger women donāt have that high of a sex drive. Women view sex differently, maybe youāre just trying to pick women up in the wrong places.
I Guess, It's scary to think I might end up being that old guy sitting alone at the park everyone thinks is creepy because he's always alone. Shit sucks son. lol
You could try actually finding a meaningful relationship with someone you have a connection with. And donāt try to say you already have, because this post was about getting easy sex, not a meaningful relationship.
But for most guys (idk atleast) for me it never end gets there. Either it's my social status or face. But even then what leads to a relationship, this is why men always want sex first, it's like in a way justifying whether its worth the time or not. Thats when dude usually move on to the next girl or stay. Meaningful relationships are not easy to come by for men. Girls have so many options.
dignity? what a bunch of bullshit !! that is a lame reason. number of partners doenst determine dignity. women are sex creatures toowe al ldont live in a medieval church or something like that
Stop blaming feminist. Itās more of a lack of tact. Even when a hot guy talks to me lacking tact and coming of as pushy or creepy itās such a god damn turn off. And it usually also happens when they have the incentive of sleeping with you and also pretending to be āniceā it comes off as unauthentic and gross.
The dude from Mindful Atraction usually words it best. Watch his videos on Bond, drake and russel brand and you will understand how to get laid
@markxcds Iām sorry, but everyone should be a feminist. Feminism is for equal rights, for both genders. Youāre mixing up equalists with the feminaziās of today.
@VaIiant bitter feminazi going below the belt, you lot are the scum of the earth and up your own arse, and you validate rape and rapists right to rape especially with those comments.
@markxcds Iām not even a third wave feminazi... you know. You are just mad because I have sex with girls and you donāt š. They also tell me ā Oh baby your strap-on is so much bigger than @markxcdās cock šā
Hype on coffee you are a silly, little girl with one of these freaky personality diseases, you should be put down like a rabid dog. grow up and act your age you braindead window licking runthole.
@hyped on coffee are your sure you are not hyped on something else or is it you just pretending to have a disorder which is really down to you being immature.
Women who are feminists are all about casual sex without shame. Itās actually women who complain more about sexless relationships or lives. Women are also realizing they can have higher standards than the guy who is pushy, persistent, and calling her baby when they donāt date. Jesus just because we donāt wanna fuck the first thing we see doesnāt mean all men are forced to be celibate.
Oh my goodness, you poor being, I'm so sorry! I want to apologise on behalf of all women for the fact that you and other guys WANT to have sex with our gender, and those ungrateful represetants of female population you tried your thing on DIDN'T WANT to do it with you! So selfish of us, we should bow and grand your male significance each and every wish! FOR FUCKS SAKE! Thanks for another example of stupidity of almighty human race. So yeah, women are picky judgmental bitchies, basically every one of us is a golddiger, and yeah, you men are all dirty animals objectifying us, totally unappreciating us and we are simply less to you. Because reality is black and white. Ta-da!
PS: If I would spread my legs for every little shit out there (under above or precise average) who had this intentions with my person, I would have a giant vortex instead of vagina.
I wanna understand you but you just said a whole bunch of angry generalizing bullshit. I didn't want pity, I'm just being transparent as possible, your kind of an example of what I mean. You admit the fact of how woman are but bash men for being equally as shitty? I don't feel entitled to women or their vagina in anyway. It's not my fault of how other men are especially the one women want to chase and go after. So yea poor me, for just trying to do what humans have done for thousands of years. Fuck me for not be super attractive and it being natural for woman to be attracted to me. Poor me, I guess my genes should just curl up and die. Thanks for the amazing advice.
As you used sarcasm in your last sentence, you should be able to identify it in my comment above. Seems like you are not, though. Weird. But then... you created fake statistic, so what did I expect? You got good advice from HP992, so I concluded I would only waste my breath in trying to genuinely answer you. You only got right that I was angry. That was because I read through all comments. Less then half of them was alright. Ok, so, on the other note now. The world is so grey I have hard time to make out contoures sometimes. Man, you are seeing it black and white. This whole topic is actually quite complicated. You are looking at it from very smallish mousy perspective. You not getting laid has nothing to do with how "picky" or whatever women are - you got it all w r o n g. Again, HP992 gave you fairly good answer. Listen to him.
You need to invest in cat food lady. I see a long lonely life is your lot. You will never be relationship material and will be pumped and dumped until you go mad and you fully deserve it. Western females especially White American females are the worst women in the world. That is why the marriage rate has dropped 50% in the last 4 decades. Men refuse to marry bitches like you.
Its simple - its hard to get causal sex cause sex was never meant to be causal. Sex was created for a married man and woman who plan to have children and grow old together. It was not created for entertainment or for people too lazy to paint, draw, exercise, or go on hikes.
You are perfectly correct on two counts, it is feminism to blame and women are more judgmental them men although feminists will deny this is the case. But it is these feminists that are socially conditioning, grooming, brainwashing women until being picky when it comes to men.
I agree most woman when they encounter a righteous man who respect they get played after the date is over they will call their male bff or neighbor to bang the brains out of them then later tell the guy im sorry it won't work out you are too much of a nice guy and you should find a nice girl. That can treat you right. Smh the fckery is real
Sure the average guy can get laid just fine. Assholes, douchebags, looser, neckbeards, and ānice guysā may have a hard time with it. But most guys over the age of 17 have a pretty healthy sex life
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It has nothing to do with feminsm, it's because women always has wanted hot, humorous flirty confident guys, and because men are having sex with multiple women, women doesn't care about guys who lacks something of above qualities.
Yup, I'd think I'm a average male, 23, Latin, Athletic, Not horrendous looking, Bilingual, Regular job. Maybe even above average depending on the certain woman standards.
Because most men are not models with six packs and rich
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Because the average guy doesn't know how to talk to women. Girls are turned on by confident, assertive, funny guys while guys only need a pretty face and a hot body. Sad but true.
Most really attractice guys are players so we can't be as "picky". What I meant to say was that even if a guy acts weird and nervous on the first date, he might get a second chance. Hooking up is more difficult because you have to impress her right away.
So then you are proving him right about women being judgmental on looks and the reasons why men cannot get laid. He and me don't want a second date, we just want to get laid with the women we want.
You're judgmental on looks too if you just want to get laid with the women you want. That's why you can't get laid. If you want hookups, get off the internet and go to a bar. You can't get a conveyor belt of your preferred women running through your room for you to pluck off the vine as you see fit, you uncouth Caesar-wannabe.
It sounds as though the current you is looking for a certain standard. Regardless of what happened in the past. And even if you aren't, you're viewing women as an object with which to wet your dick instead of as people who might also be looking to have a good time.
@HP992 if women go for looks when they pick men then they are viewing them as objects, all you are trying to do is appease feminists to make yourself look better in front of women.
Oh yeah, for sure men are objectified all the time too. Any time a woman goes out looking for a hookup, she's also objectifying men. But you're trying to demonize women for objectifying men while you yourself are explaining that you want to be able to freely objectify women. If one side can objectify the other, both sides are within their right to objectify each other. So if you're going to objectify women, don't get mad when women objectify men. If you're going to do that, prepare to be objectified yourself. Otherwise you just look like a chode with a complex. And I don't need to look good for women online, none of them will ever see me, know who I am, care about me, or even think about my dick, so I don't give a shit. I'm just answering questions and pointing out false statistics and logical fallacies.
Pining for women to not be afforded the same rights as men, stating that you don't want to get dates, you just want to have sex with the women you want, and demeaning every woman that posts an opinion that differs from yours sure seems like you are treating women not as people but as objects, inferior in intellect and having fewer rights than you. What gives you the right to claim you should be able to have sex with whatever woman you want but that women shouldn't have the right to do the same? And how do you not believe that thinking of women as tools for sex is not objectification? Words have definitions.
I'm not even opposed to the sexual objectification of men or women, you just apparently don't even realize that you're objectifying women while vilifying them for objectifying men. Then, while being a hypocrite, you admonish women for being hypocritical by objectifying men. While you're being hypocritical and objectifying women. You see where this is going?
@HP992 No i am not because i am not objectifying women and if you cannot understand that then tough, your problem not mine as i will never be swayed by feminist appeaser.
I provided a definition. You just claimed you aren't doing the thing I defined for you, Ron Swanson style. You are doing the thing that is defined as the thing you are doing. It doesn't matter if you say that you aren't doing it. That's fine by me. Doesn't make a difference in the fact that you are doing it.
Now you're doing the other thing I just said you're doing. You're just saying you're not doing the thing. You can't refute the definition of a word on your own non-existent authority. Sexual objectification is sexual objectification whether you think so or not. Have fun figuring that out.
Dude ugly dudes get laid too. I don't know what you're doing wrong but chances are it might be how you're putting way too much value on sex than it actually deserves.
But in comparison to men. It's hugely in favor of Women. I get it might contradict your belief but it's just the truth. A woman can choose to have sex with an less attractive man, and man has to hope a woman picks him out of dozens of other possible partners. It's like a game in a Casino and Women are the House and the dealer. Which they always win. lol
Wrong. *Some women can choose. *Some men have to hope. But the average guy can get laid. Guess people like you are just taking one for the team, so the average guy gets to bone.
I guess, in a way, guys like you are indispensable for the average guy. You're like the support. Just by being you, you basically buff their mediocre stats thereby allowing them a better chance at hooking up.
"These are objective and Biological truths" dude, you can't just say things. Stop making up statistics, once again. Where is your study? Where are your citations? None of this is true, you're just salty that you can't trip and fall into some pussy.
Biologically, women are 50% of the population, and biologically women in the United States average 1.87 births each, so biologically women are having enough sex with the other 50% of the population to make more than one kid. Biologically you're just salty it isn't with you.
Your direct implication was that it wouldn't happen if men could get laid. You replied with an opposing opinion to a post stating that any dude can get laid. Your statement, given where you stated it, says that if men could get laid there would be no 40 year old virgins; If men could get laid there would be no rape culture; if men could get laid there would be no mass shootings carried out by virgins with autism. I could do the same thing by replying to this man with "Bullshit, otherwise coral reef wouldn't be dying out" and then say that it wasn't what I meant when someone said I was an idiot for correlating the death of coral with the claimed decline in sexual encounters.
@HP992 i know what i said, he said any guy can get laid so i replied (if you can be bothered to read it because again you are choosing to omit certain parts to validate a redundant argument) that if that was the case there would none of what i said there would none of it.
Yeah. You said explicitly that there would be no mass shootings by autistic virgins if men could get laid. I pointed out the fallacy in that. You can't just say that the mass shooters are autistic virgins. It's just not true. And then you can't deflect by trying to attack the way I said that your argument was flawed. Your argument is flawed. You have no facts, you have nothing but salty conjecture and too much time to type.
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