How do you stay classy in an argument? (Page 2)

[FýrdracaDócincel]

You don't.. classy doesn't get shit done. Fear does.

[FýrdracaDócincel]

Idealistic pussies say whaaa?

[FakeName123]

By remaining calm, collected and rational.

[EABsTUQ]

Know when the let the other person win.

[kangy]

never bring up the past or use profanities

[Solitude_asian]

Some experts say 80% of the arguments are triggered by something that happens in the past, and not really by what happened in the present. Lol.

[ItsTheNephilim]

Experience and wits. Think, stay calm and speak.

[Reaperbot666]

stay on topic and keep calm

[sensible27]

If you have to (try) you probably aren't and have already lost.

[sensible27]

Doubt there's a thing such as trying to be classy.******

[Sweetener_]

You have to "try" to succeed. If you don't "try" you've already lost.

[sensible27]

No, it's like confidence. If you are not sure what you're talking about you wouldn't be confident, the trick is to know what you're talking about. You have to have a good character and try to have a good character instead of trying to be or appear or seem classy.

[Sweetener_]

At the end of the day I never said "how to try to stay classy in an argument"
I said "how do you stay classy in an argument"? Just because I'm asking for tips doesn't mean I'm unconfident, I just want to add reasonable tips in my life so I can be the best version of myself.
If "trying" is your definition of losing then I respect that. But don't force your opinion on others because it won't work.
To succeed I always "try", to try to do something shows your confidence already, and when I "try" I end up succeeding because I never backed down. Thanks for sharing your opinion and have a nice day 💞

[sensible27]

If you hate math, you shouldn't take qm. All I said. It wasn't forced, it was just a better approach but you apparently perceived it as an attack. I doubt there are many things to raise a whole level of consciousness but okay.

[jadspop]

There's a difference between a voluntary situation of taking a class and getting into an argument... I could hate actually doing math but enjoy science. So despite my annoyance at math I'm going to try and get better at it. Though that's not a great mind set and it will be harder that's entirely possible. Or the fact that I'm your life you will get into arguments regardless of if you like them or not. Learning how to argue better and not act like a child is a good skill to have. And the only way to figure it out is to learn by trial or asking someone who knows.

I respectfully disagree with your statement on "trying means you failed" and think this was a very tasteful and we'll thought out question.

[sensible27]

Most of qm is math if not all so don't know why you decided to argue that point. Yeah, learning not to argue with irrational points is an important skill but it's a bit hard to write poetry when you don't know the alphabets. It's a recursive catch 22 type question, for you/someone to be classy you have to already be mature and not ask that question. I am not doing a very good job explaining but I doubt it matters much. It's a subsets essentially.

[sensible27]

*good=good/perticularly...

[sensible27]

It's basically the if you have to ask you can't afford it quite reframed...

[jadspop]

Wait... So your saying every smart person ever just magically knew everything they already knew?

And yes it's basically all math... But you can like something your not good at and want to get better...

But I'll ignore that cuz I REALLY want to hear your explination for the first part...

If you don't know it then you shouldn't ask... So literally every thing you know... You just knew from birth?

[jadspop]

And I'm having a hard time understanding how asking an opinion to help yourself get better Is immature...

I'm personally bad at spelling. But I love poetry. True I'll never be great or anything but I can take tips and tricks from others to make myself better.

The one thing I will agree on though... Is that "being classy" is a state of mind. Not specificaly a skill. Though it can be taught. That being said either you are or you arnt. And being young has a huge disadvantage cuz a lot of it is experience.

So I do agree with that. I just don't agree with the whole... Asking is stupid

[sensible27]

I think you built upon up on things you assumed I said. I never said you can't try or you shouldn't try to learn anything. Think of it in terms of sports if it is more familiar to you, if you want to learn how to play a certain way say aggressively you have to learn how to play first. If you're flying jet you wouldn't be taught every possible mode and combination and thus you have to learn how to fly first and be sort of familiar with how the plane and the air (/airodynamics reacts. It's just that conversation is so complex in a certain way/sense that you need a knowledge base before you can afford to be classy (almost). Being aggressive is not always bad and being calm is not always good.

Secondly, you are discussing in a rational argument and not arguing. You are rational so the objective is being right and being productive, you can't try to be right... You have to learn to be right before you argue. The only thing is if you're right correct and moral you're classy and you have to be be that before you are classy. So you can't try to be classy as a one step method. You can be a better person and then be classy and that's all I said. If you're classy ('classy') just to look appear or seem classy you have already lost (being classy)...

[sensible27]

Also the definition for 'argument' pretty much clears my statement...

[jadspop]

I mean... The question was what traits are classy when it comes to arguing...

And your comments several times were if you have to ask then you shouldn't be asking...

Your right. There's a difference if someone who has class and someone trying to act classy.

She asked for an objective answer and you pretty much told her that, cuz she had to ask, she's obveously not classy... Wich wasn't even part of the question... She never said she was.

So granted you have some interesting or fair points in what you said. It's compleatly irelavint...

You pretty much just told her she's lame for having to ask...
Granted that's my interpretation. Hell she probably stoped reading our bickering a while ago and at this point I'm just sweeping a dirt road...

[sensible27]

No, I tried pointing her towards growing better as a person than worrying about trying to look classy. Which seems like a valid poit... It also brings into context what classy actually means but if that's all you interpreted.. to some extent the interpretation is not my 'fault' or responsibility.

[Be4rdy]

If you want to end an argument just say "because racecar"

[LenaRaye84]

Make your point without being aggressive and rude

[_SOARER]

Dont curse
Dont name call

[sumanthr]

Speaking on. the point,.. than blabebring whatever comes to mind.. makes classy

[Gedaria]

Don't lose your rag...

[coffeewithcream]

Wave a pearl-handled revolver.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Just be calm, factual and don't accept feelings.

[Fuentes]

Don't get too mad i guess lol

[michael1469]

I just cropdust her and walk away.

[CashMoneyElias]

By shooting the other person dead

[AngHellic2269]

Never swear or raise your voice

[FrePhill]

Avoid logical fallacies.

[Cryptic-Game]

I try my best not to get involved in them.

[Aphrodite_1998]

Let them bury themselves.

[kaydenkek]

Stay poised and calm, try to keep a straight face

[OddBeMe]

By staying calm.

[Crankor]

Dont yell

[EyesOfGod]

Don't cuss

[shadow__reflector]

Just let them make their point.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

Don't get mad.

[In_Trance]

Have some caviar

[Guardian45]

Dress well?