Why do men have to bend over backwards for women everywhere we go?

[jgokgotit]

Another GaG user talked about how it is inappropriate for men to ask women out at the gym. I do agree that men should do so tactfully, but I do not believe the asking out itself is wrong. I do believe in treating women with respect, but I am not a fan of bending over backwards for every little thing that offends women. For example, at the gym I do not think it is wrong to ask a woman out, but I do think it is wrong to interrupt her workout to do so. I also believe a man should stop when a woman says no. It just seems that women get offended so damn easily today and that society expects us men to just change everything to make women feel better. Hence the question "Why should men bend over backwards for women?". I do believe in being a gentleman, but I also think it is wrong and destructive to just give women what they want just because they whine when what they are whining about is something stupid. When is enough enough? Where do we draw the line between being courteous versus letting women get their way just for whining over something stupid?

[Kkaos]

If you're religious you might disagree with me here, but "right" and "wrong" is just a human construct. Is it wrong to ask a girl out whilst she's in the middle of workout? That's entirely subjective. She might find it bothersome, but if she's attracted to you, it might be a welcome interruption. Personally, I'd wait till she's finished though. I'd be like "Sorry, I noticed you before and didn't want to interrupt. I thought you looked cute and wanted to say hi".

Now for me personally, doing that, I don't think there's anything wrong with it whatsoever. I'm giving a compliment and being proactive. If she finds me annoying, she's more than welcome to push me away and we'll never talk again. In the times I've approached a girl though, she's always been grateful that I did, but that's usually because I only approach if we've made "eye contact/smiled" first.

It's up to you, but don't listen to people and their negativity. I trust you have a good moral compass and know what's appropriate and what isn't on your own.

[jgokgotit]

You get what I am saying. How you said you would approach her is exactly how I feel about it.

[lifeisterrible]

If you're attractive then you can do whatever you want and women will line up for you. All that BS only applies if you're not attractive.

[modelUN242]

These stupid women are the same people who complain how men never take the initiative. It takes guts for a guy to ask a girl in public. You should be flattered if a guy asks you. Girls nowadays think they're the shits, when they're a 4 without makeup, filters, and Spanx. When girls dress sexy to go to the gym, you know she wants attention, but when a 4 guy approaches her, she's disgusted because she was expecting Chad. I mean if asking a girl out in public becomes illegal, lol how does the population repopulate? That's how your grandparents met anyways. The sexual revolution made women more bitchy and picky.

[thegirlfromthething]

How is not asking someone out “bending over backwards”? It’s not an unreasonable request to leave someone alone when they don’t want to be bothered. I don’t see how being polite is objectionable.

[jgokgotit]

Leaving someone alone when it is obvious they do not want to be approached is polite. However, banning men from asking at all is the unreasonable part.

[thegirlfromthething]

And based on what you know, there are places like the gym where a lot of women don’t want to be approached. The tactful thing to do is wait until you’re somewhere that people are supposed to socialize with strangers, like a party, where women will be more open to being asked out. The key is to read the room and ask yourself if this a place where it’s appropriate to go up to them.