Why do women show cleavage but then get angry when men stare at their globes?

[John_Doesnt]

The only reason to watch 2 Broke Girls

[BigSis]

It depends. I feel bad for women with really big breasts. They can throw on a sweatshirt and get negative attention for not being "modest enough".

However, there are women who dress this way to go back and complain about it later. It's because they want to pretend that they are soooo beautiful, they can't help all these thirsty men chasing them. Essentially, it's that general idea.

If they're proud of their boobs but not the rest of them, they might do this. Or if they're insecure about their breast size, they might play them up and show them off, to get male attention. Then, come back and act like their boobs are soooo big, that all the boys stare at them, so they're definitely not tiny.

Sometimes, I get that it's fun to dress up. But if I personally just "wear what I want", it's going to be comfy and fluffy, not bare-chested. Unless it's a super hot day. I don't think women who dress like playboy bunnies all the time are necessarily just doing it for themselves.

Showing one's chest is probably a trend in certain areas. But boobs were more of a 90s thing. Now I'm seeing everyone getting reductions. Aside from actual breast pain, I don't get it.

[mommymommymommy]

Playboy bunnies are paid, to be that way, civies, aren't

[Kaazsz]

They only get angry at ugly guys. Women love to be sexual objects for attractive men. They are just mad that attractive men don’t want to settle down. Why would you when you can have as many as you want? They then apply what they see from attractive men, as not wanting to settle at all, who only care for sex with many women, and say that ALL men are that way.


I know this is the truth because I spent my life respecting women. Being afraid to make them uncomfortable. Not staring at their bodies. Not chasing them for sex.


It left me lonely and alone. But I’m attractive. I’ve always had girls attention. But I was scared to be what they really want me to be. Which is a guy who chases and sexualizes women.


I only learned because of being immersed in a large group of women. By luck, my job, as well as my sister and her friends. I met and became friends with a large group of women.


They encouraged me to stop being shy. To chase girls. To be a player. Yes, they told me I can be a player and that I should work to become one. Yet women will always tell you that they hate players.


They wanted me to be a player, they wanted me to chase girls. Because I’m attractive and that’s it. If you’re ugly, they want you to stay in your lane. They want you to leave them alone. If you’re attractive they want you to chase them.


Don’t listen to the bullshit they say. It’s nothing but lies.

[TruthBringer]

This man gets it! The privileges are only reserved for attractive men. You should see the way I talk to them on dates. If you make certain rude comments and by that I don't mean insulting, the attractive guy is "daring" and "confident". But if the lesser attractive guy does it, he is called a "creep". I know this because I always get away with being a tad rude and end up sleeping with them. Often, they tell me about the "creeps" they went on a date with and what they have said. They are typical things that I would say aswel. So I hit them with the "if I said that, would you also get mad?". And they answered "no because you're different.". So I reply with "Yeah, I'm different because in your eyes you find me more attractive and worthy of pursuit". It always gets them to realize that they can't bullshit me lmfao

[hi_it_is_me123]

@TruthBringer one question. If this is true, why do unattractive men give attention to women because they know women only want the attention of attractive men?

[Kaazsz]

Yea you’re right. They don’t see what makes them tick. Us men, we know what makes us tick. Beautiful sexy woman. But many women are angry about that. Because most women aren’t beautiful and sexy and perfect. They think all men are willing to cheat on them with a sexy woman if she were to come along.

They reject the idea of looks and status and other things that have nothing to do with your personality. Because that’s how us men operate. On beauty. So women fight and claw and sputter when we say they are the same as us. They don’t want to admit it.

It’s true that what “good looks” are to them is different than what good looks are to a man. For men good looks are beauty. For women good looks is strength and dominance. Either way, you’re ignoring the real character of the person and only looking at the surface level FIRST. Who the person really is on the inside always comes second for both men and women.

[Kaazsz]

It’s just that women don’t want to admit it. They think their view of attraction IS the character of the person. But it isn’t. What attracts them has nothing to do with the character of the person. Being a big strong male who is overly confident says nothing about his character as a person. Just the same as a woman’s beauty has nothing to do with the character of a woman. An ugly woman can be an amazing inspiring person who lifts up everyone around her. A man who is not dominant strong and confident can do the same.

[Kaazsz]

The world wants to tell us guys that women don’t care about our looks. That “alpha” and “beta” don’t exist. Women are attracted to “alpha” men. There’s an infinite amount of studies that prove it. Yet we still tell guys that they can get a beautiful woman if only he keeps looking. Obviously that’s nonsense. Not every man can have a beautiful woman. And not every woman can have the dream alpha man.

We all have to settle. It’s just us men admit it and women do not admit it. And society also won’t admit that women are just the same as men, caring first and foremost about primary and secondary sexual characteristics, and the actual content of the person comes after.

I think everyone will be happier when we admit we all wish we could have that top1% mate, but we can’t. Everyone settles.

[hi_it_is_me123]

@Kaazsz do you think it is bad when women care about looks? I also do not understand why women dont admit that we like hot young fresh guys. Everyone like beautiful attractive things.

[Kaazsz]

Neither men’s or women’s mating strategies are moral.

What I find wrong is what I said in my original reply. Women’s perception of a man depends on her attraction to her. Women get upset about a man looking at her breasts unless she’s attracted to him.

Hey, men do it too. I don’t like when the fat ugly girls stare at me. I’ve had them grab my ass and sexually harass me. There’s no excuse for sexual harassment.

But I don’t make posts crying about women staring at me and how I’m being sexualized by evil women. I’m just grossed out by a fat ugly woman checking me out. I don’t want her to think she has a chance. I don’t want her to think she could ever have a piece of me. Hell naw bitch. You nasty.

I think women have valid reasons to call out men who sexually harass them. But it doesn’t stop there. It also includes favorable behavior that women enjoy from a good looking man, but for an unattractive man, those same behaviors get lumped into the category of sexual harassment. There’s being grossed out by someone unattractive, and there’s sexual harassment. They aren’t the same thing. But women seem to me to be treating them as the same thing. And the evidence we see all the time. Because hot dudes can say and do whatever they want to girls and they swoon. Ugly guy comes along and tries the same thing and now he’s “just another disgusting male pig who can’t control his sexual lust and behavior.”

[Kaazsz]

And as I did in my comment I refer to myself. I made a large group of female friends who told me they thought I was gay. I asked them why. We have open and honest relationships.

They told me it was because I did not stare at their tits and make them know I am lusting for their bodies. They expect it.

They encouraged me to act that way. To chase women, to flirt and be sexual and be horny and look at their bodies with lust in my mind.

The post asks why women get upset when men look at their bodies. I’m saying it’s a lie. That women love it as long as the right man is doing it.

[hi_it_is_me123]

I am apologizing then for women who harass you. But you do not answere my question. Would you be ok with it if women care about looks? I have seen studies that say women are more "shallow" than men and that means that women only think that 20% of men are attractive. I dont if it is true really true. I personally care about looks and i am honest with it. But i was "attacked" by some men for saying it and they told me nobody should reject someone because of their looks. But we can't control to whom we are attracted to. I tried it once by dating a guy who i think was ugly and i end up feeling shit and i always feel disgusted when he was close to me. So i did not reject him because i did not want to be shallow which was very stupid of me. Since then i am very honest with me even it means people think a shallow asshole

[hi_it_is_me123]

Even it means that peaople think I am an asshole *** . But i still try to be less shallow and i am also afraid of rejecting guys because of it

[hi_it_is_me123]

By the way I am very sorry what happened to you

[hi_it_is_me123]

I think everyone wants attractive people to look at them. If i was extremly unattractive i even would not try it or would not stare at an attractive man I personally try to ignore any guy who is out of my leaugue. I think everyone should do it.

[Kaazsz]

I don’t care if women care about looks. I don’t hate women I’m not mad. I shouldn’t even bother talking about it because I’m cute AF these hoes like me the minute they see me.

I’m not mad. I don’t hate women. But I have to say the way I see shit. Especially after being friends with hella girls and learning so so so much and seeing them act as they really are. Girls ain’t innocent flowers.

One of my friends broke down crying one day. She has 2 young boys. She said she is afraid for them, because she doesn’t want some horrible women to do whatever it is that girls do. She said “girls are bad!” I didn’t know what she meant at the time. But I know now. Girls are not innocent.

It’s hard to describe. It’s hard to put a finger on it. But I think girls know, if they really wanted to be honest they know. They aren’t moral at all. My only problem is society’s view that women are moral and men are bad.

[hi_it_is_me123]

First of all, assholes exist on both sides. There are bad and good women/men. Yes, i also think society should not portray all women as innocent. It has nothing to do with gender. As i said assholes exist on both sides. Do you also slut shame men like this? Like you slut-shame girls for thinking you are cute? 😶 My problem is also that society kinda do not allow women to be shallow. This is why you heard in your whole that women only care about personality which is bs.

[hi_it_is_me123]

Thank you for your reply by the way

[hi_it_is_me123]

When i say i prefere tall men, people think i am a witch for doing this. This is why i dont talk about my preferences since nobody understand that i also care about looks

[Kaazsz]

I don’t slut shame women. But I have to call them out when they say men are horny disgusting pigs. I see women in real life and I see how they act. I have many female friends now. I know women so intimately now unlike I ever did before. I used to believe all the crap society taught me.

I only aim to call them out on it when they lie. Men are sluts, we all know and believe it. But so are women. Men do bad things. But so do women. Men and women are equally sexual.

But nobody wants to believe it. But we all need to know the truth. And it hurts to know the truth for us men.

Because yes men are sluts. But we recognize that we give almost all women a chance. The reverse is not true for women. Women can be 100% as slutty as men. But they are only sluts for a very small percentage of men.

And that is what makes men angry. We know that women are having a lot of sex. But it’s only with a small percentage of us. We know that women are horny and love men. But only a small percentage of us. The rest of us, women only settle because there is not enough men who they truly desire around. So they have to settle eventually.

That I think is what we believe. Am I wrong? I don’t feel like I am. I see it all the time. Girls flirting with me in front of their boyfriend. Touching me, telling me I’m cute. And he’s standing 5 feet away. Hell I had girls say it to me with their boyfriend standing right next to them.

Girls are just as horny as men. But the Love only goes to very few of us.

That’s why I think men get angry and slut shame. We know women are sluts we accept it. But we hate it because we know we don’t get a piece of woman’s slut action unless we are a certain type of highly desired man. The rest of us have to beg for scraps. Pay women and be their beta male provider while the attractive men get to have fun casual sex with as many women as they want. We all wish we could have a piece of that too and be desired too. But we aren’t.

[Kaazsz]

Well that’s how I see it. The root of all of this man vs woman hate, on the men’s side is that we know and see very well that women love men, love sex. But only a very small percentage of men get to truly experience a woman’s love and lust. The rest get scraps.

[hi_it_is_me123]

Thank you for your reply. But for me is nobody is a slut except this person cheated or play with someone's feelings.

[Ivo9898]

Oh please... There is a normal dress not to show your boobs and slut dress. The same goes for man. Year ago I was changed my clothes for the gym and from formal to shorts and t shirt all the women at work start steering and whistling.
- WOW look at this man big one and it looks like hi have big dick too. I mean that was a 90% women 10% at the building. Is not the first time but I didn't care. It happened in England but even back in East Europe the women are the same. If a guy do this... Oh My Goodness. Imagine that.
- What a nice tits. I bet you want them to be grabbed roughly.
I could dress in the gym but I didn't the very first time and then I asked the from 20-55 years old women what will they do if I make that to them. (There was a 2 women's that ask if they could dress the next day and I call them sluts but that was to be expected from 30in one building)
Why not a woman be cool? This is typical BITCH behaviour of showing but get angry to a man for looking. WTF is the purpose of that?

[Anonymous]

It's common sense, staring is impolite wether it's the breasts, the legs, the nose or the shoes. Be respectful.
No woman expects you to stare, quite the opposite. Breasts should be naturalized like legs were. When men didn't allow women to show their legs they went as far as to cover the legs of wooden tables too (England, 1890s) which was quite insulting for men and women alike. I mean, it is implied that men were such horndogs that they couldn't even stare at a table's wooden leg (let alone a woman's leg) without having sexual thoughts. Or do you think we should cover up our cleavages because you're still too primitive to behave and respect societal norms?

[Opinion Owner]

@KrakenAttackin Oh, I'm sorry. Which country are you from where staring is a polite thing to do?

[LLYN-95]

As a woman, cover up or don't complain. Sick of hypocritical women like.

When I want attention I show more skin. Get over yourself and quit justifying retarded female behavior.

[mistixs]

@LLYN-95 then I expect men not to complain if gay men ogle them while they're shirtless in public

[LLYN-95]

@mistixs basically. Lol

[Opinion Owner]

@LLYN-95 "cover up or don't complain" you tell that to sexual assault victims as well?
We all "take a look" but staring is impolite wether its the breasts or any part of the anatomy. It often comes with verbal or even physical harassment. Keep the insults to yourself because I don't recall asking for your opinion
Hey it's ok if you like men staring at your chest fat rolls, I just don't. Here's your bag of attention

[LLYN-95]

oh for fucks sake. Its not ok if they touch and rape. "eye roll". Just stop bitching if they stare. Sick of you woke ass women.

[Opinion Owner]

@LLYN-95 People like you are the reason they keep disrespecting us women

[LLYN-95]

no, its people like you that create hypocritical annoying ass women that flaunt their twat then throw a fit when some guy gives a stare.

[Opinion Owner]

@LLYN-95 Also, don't say retard. Having cognitive disabilities like my brother is not an insult, it's a condition some people can't control and it's definitely not a pejorative term..

[LLYN-95]

switching the subject now to look superior lmao fuck off yah smelly twat.

[Opinion Owner]

@LLYN-95 I barely understand what you're writing and I don't "flaunt", I'm skin and bones. I don't even have a chest but that doesn't stop men from staring at whatever they think they can see through my clothes. They don't even need to see chest and when they do some think it's an invitation to be nasty. On top of that it's plain rude to stare and if your tiny brain can't comprehend that then this conversation is pointless. You're a lost cause

[KrakenAttackin]

@LLYN-95 Thank you, well said.

[joeblow123]

The only ones I've noticed starring are women. Women must be very impolite according to your definition of the word.

[joeblow123]

No, actually you are. LLYN-95 is being an adult about it.

[joeblow123]

Retard fits you all the way. I certainly don't mean that toward your brother. He wasn't given a choice while you were.

[VanillaSalt]

I feel women dress to feel better about themselves... so question an answer time...

Why does dressing like this make them feel better?

It’s the attention they get... they don’t like it but the attention makes them know their desirable...

So even if they hate the attention they do it FOR the attention...

Bigger question... if a woman goes out naked in stilettos do you think men should look away? Why? She’s out there voluntarily so why can’t we look? Oh you feel bad then cover up! I think it’s rude to men for women to dress like that if we can’t look you can’t dress that way.

[Opinion Owner]

You people aren't worth it. Have a nice day

[BigSis]

Men do stare at legs. When I'm fit, they are one of my best features. I'd rate mine a nine or a ten. I feel dirty wearing shorts. I tend to cover them up more. You go to Africa, and women don't wear shirts, but the legs are a big no-no. Until recently, it was a universal thing that women wore long skirts.

The legs are pretty sexual. Imagine living in a second world country where you're running up and down mountains every day. Or a female gym rat in a mini skirt. We show them now because they aren't the legs they used to be. Not because they aren't inherently sexual.

[Silver158]

Women stare at men too. That is all.

[TruthBringer]

https://gyazo.com/ebfd84b9936e3c82937e78b5978ea5de

So you're telling me that women don't expect us to look when they wear things like this. Sure. And lovely how you used Mark Twain's quote as a means of damage control. The irony is that you're the kind of stupid that quote tells to avoid.

[mistixs]

@TruthBringer there's a difference between looking and staring

[TruthBringer]

@mistixs Staring is an even bigger form of validation. Just saying.

[mistixs]

@TruthBringer someone plagiarizing your work is a form of validation (imitation is the sincerest form of flattery) but that doesn't mean most people want it to happen to them

[TruthBringer]

@mistixs They don't want it from that ugly dude. They do want it from that attractive stud. Why? Because it boosts their self esteem.

[CakesNCream]

@LLYN-95 💯

[joeblow123]

@BigSis

Different cultures different customs. Naturally, there are going to be differences between North America and Africa.

[KrakenAttackin]

@LLYN-95 She feels so strongly about "normalizing" cleavage that she post Anonymously.

[navyrobin]

I honestly can’t believe how men can’t handle such an easy thing to do. It’s like saying thank you after someone does you a favor. It’s basic fucking decency. If you can’t fucking understand that you’re either a psychopath or have autism, and I’m not blaming you if you have social issues but you need to address those instead of blaming women and talking about rape. I can’t believe how y’all started talking about rape only because we said we don’t want to be harassed. You guys are probably the type of person who justifies rape and says that the girl was wearing revealing clothing so she “deserved it.”

You guys don’t represent men as a gender. I know men are much, much better people. You are just the excluded group, the disgusting animals exiled from society who only blamed women and think everything is done for your own pleasure.

Disgusting animals.

[KrakenAttackin]

@navyrobin Thank you Karen.

[TruthBringer]

@navyrobin Oh look, Karen is still pleading her case. Even after everything she said got debunked by a bunch of people. Sorry booboo, but facts remains: Don’t want attention, then don’t ask for it. And just because we realize this, doesn’t mean we smooth talk rape or that any girl dressing revealing clothes deserves to get raped or whatever. Rape comes to literally anyone. Not our fault that the rapist gets the urge much quicker when he sees a girl dressed provocatively compared to a woman wearing modest clothing.

“You guys don’t represent men, there are much better men wah wah wah”. Yeah, the same thing can be said about you. I’m glad my family members, my girlfriend and a bunch of other women on this website like Marilynjuana and Daniela1982 don’t think like you. They aren't entitled women who can’t fathom the concept of accountability.

@KrakenAttackin As you can see, this is a clear example of “if they can’t control you, they try to ostracize you”. Typical feminazi behavior whenever they are incapable to come up with intellectual arguments.

[KrakenAttackin]

@TruthBringer It's true. This is almost like man taking dating advice from a woman, the advice is wrong 99.9% of the time. These women don't even know their own minds, which is the really bizarre aspect.

[Silver158]

@KrakenAttackin Hey we#ve all made that mistake at one point.

[hi_it_is_me123]

"Don’t want attention, then don’t ask for it. And just because we realize this, doesn’t mean we smooth talk rape or that any girl dressing revealing clothes deserves to get raped or whatever. Rape comes to literally anyone. Not our fault that the rapist gets the urge much quicker when he sees a girl dressed provocatively compared to a woman wearing modest clothing. " so it is the victim'd fault? Ok then dont complain about getting raped by gay, if you show a liitle of disgusting face. I can't believe, i did not know you are that low

“You guys don’t represent men, there are much better men wah wah wah”. Yeah, the same thing can be said about you. I’m glad my family members, my girlfriend and a bunch of other women on Daniela1982 don’t think like you. They aren't entitled women who can’t
"As you can see, this is a clear example of “if they can’t control you, they try to ostracize you”. Typical feminazi behavior whenever they are incapable to come up with intellectual arguments." Says the one who report every opinion of mine. Stop being hypocritical. You care only about freedom of speech, when it only benefits you.

[hi_it_is_me123]

"Don’t want attention, then don’t ask for it. And just because we realize this, doesn’t mean we smooth talk rape or that any girl dressing revealing clothes deserves to get raped or whatever. Rape comes to literally anyone. Not our fault that the rapist gets the urge much quicker when he sees a girl dressed provocatively compared to a woman wearing modest clothing. " so it is the victim'd fault? Ok then dont complain about getting raped by gay, if you show a liitle of disgusting face. I can't believe, i did not know you are that low

"As you can see, this is a clear example of “if they can’t control you, they try to ostracize you”. Typical feminazi behavior whenever they are incapable to come up with intellectual arguments." Says the one who report every opinion of mine. Stop being hypocritical. You care only about freedom of speech, when it only benefits you.

[hi_it_is_me123]

@KrakenAttackin Even though we can't stand each other, I respect you for no reporting/blocking me. I do the same. At least you hold on to your principles.

[hi_it_is_me123]

@TruthBringer i did not expect that from you. i really believe you care about limitless freedom of speech ' cause you mention this a lot and so I thought you dont block/report people. At least hold on to your statements, instead of being hypocritical.

[TruthBringer]

@hi_it_is_me123 Rape is not the victim’s fault in itself. Like I said, rape can come to anyone. Even if you wear the most modest clothes, being in the wrong place and the wrong time can lead to rape, unfortunately. Yet ignorant people like yourself keep ignoring real life. A rapist (if male) is still a man. A man with urges. If he can’t control his impulses because he sees a provocatively dressed woman, then YES the decision of dressing that way ADDED to the chances of things getting out of hand. Does that mean she is entirely at fault? No. Does it mean she is partially to blame? Yes. Will that blame justify the rape? HELL NO.
Like I’ve said to the other twinkle toe. If I’m flashing a Rolex in a ghetto, then I increase the chances of getting mugged. Perhaps even shot. Or maybe kidnapped. Who knows.
Freedom of speech is for everyone. Your racism towards people isn’t considered freedom of speech, girly. That’s considered forbidden at least here in the Netherlands. And we got better freedom of speech compared to the US from what I’ve seen. You’re commenting here, right? It’s your freedom of speech to give your opinion on this topic and I’m free to comment and contradict it. Why? Because it’s freedom of speech. You’re the one telling people to shut up and stop talking because you clearly don’t like what they say. You’re another snowflake who can’t handle people having different opinions. Get off the internet then, sweetie. This place is not for you.
Also, I don’t block. I only reported your racist comments to the other man. I’m not going to sit here and report every comment you made. And unlike you, I’m not going to make duplicate accounts and act like I’m the other gender in order to “get back at” another person.

[hi_it_is_me123]

I know more modest women than who get raped. It has nothing to do with provocative clothes. If their only goal was sex, they would go to a prostitute. In my country prostitution is very cheap and available everywhere but it still happen. They do it because they are satanic psychopaths who like to make the victims suffers. And dont call them men. Men dont rape, only satanic monsters do that

[hi_it_is_me123]

Freedom of speech is different in america. I would not report anyone to police just because this person was racist to me. Police has better things to do. I experienced racism and my cousin get attacked by some austrians for wearing hijab, by friend was beaten up for wearing hijab. Making racist statements does not matter and reporting people for this is belittling racism.

[hi_it_is_me123]

Dont lie to me, you freak report every opinion of mine. who would report it then opnions which was at you? I am litterally shocked.

[hi_it_is_me123]

I am starting to be afraid of you. First you report every freaking opnion of me, second you spam everyone who does not agree with you, third you stalk me to report every statement of me. Are you a sociapath? What the hell is your problem? Who stalk a person to report every opinion to the point my account frozen. I get it we do not agree with eachother but who tf does that? Stay away from you. You have serious issues.

[hi_it_is_me123]

Stay away from me**

[TruthBringer]

@hi_it_is_me123 Trust me, I only reported like 1 thing of yours. It takes more people to report 1 comment to have it removed as far as I know. Quite the hypocrite aren't you? Look at the amount of replies you've given. And then you tell me I'm spamming. Not to forget you created a duplicate account just so you can respond to me which is now inactive. If you don't want to talk, then don't talk nor message me privately. People who are scared of another person don't send them private messages. Weirdo.

[hi_it_is_me123]

@TruthBringer if you are honest at this point, i am sorry then. I just was confused that someone would report only the opinions who are adressed to you. Anyway if you are true here, i am sorry again.

[TruthBringer]

@hi_it_is_me123 It's alright, don't worry about it ;)

[Shamalien]

@mistixs men don’t. We’re flattered. If I get catcalled by a gay dude then I complain but if it was a woman I would still be flattered

[AaronH03]

@mistixs this is IT. Exactly!

[Asad1ONE1]

1st of all, why would you be so upset if men stare? 2nd of all, what makes you think you speak for all (even a few) women?

[Asad1ONE1]

I can understand where you might be upset. Harassment and disrespect. But I doubt it's in terms of positive attention.

[lemonette]

Why do women show clevage?

Remember that women may choose to reveal their cleavage for a variety of reasons, and that this is a personal decision that should be respected. In addition to enhancing self-confidence and giving women the freedom to feel beautiful and at ease in their bodies, cleavage may also be a form of self-expression. Another reason some women might decide to expose their cleavage is to embrace their femininity or to improve their physical attractiveness. Everyone has various preferences and comfort levels, so it's important to encourage women in making decisions that make them feel confident and happy. Let's honor individual choices and celebrate diversity!

1. To show off to other women

It's true that women sometimes choose to show cleavage as a means of expressing their personal style and feeling confident, but it's important to avoid assuming that their intention is solely to impress or compete with other women. It's crucial to remember that women's choices in how they dress should not be reduced to seeking approval or validation from others. Every individual has their own unique reasons for their fashion choices, and it's essential to foster a supportive environment where women can freely express themselves without judgment. Let's celebrate diversity and respect each other's personal preferences, allowing everyone to feel comfortable and confident in their own skin.

2. To get served first at the bar

It's crucial to remember that bartenders or anyone else shouldn't regard cleavage display as a way to get special attention. The values of fairness and respect are violated by such conduct. No matter how they look, everyone should be treated equally. Let's promote a culture where people are valued for who they are as people, not for what they do or don't.

3. To get ahead in the queue

It's crucial to keep in mind that exposing cleavage should never be done in order to get an unfair advantage or skip a line. These behaviors violate the ideals of justice and equality. To guarantee that everyone has an equal opportunity to be helped or serviced, queue systems were created. Let's build a culture of fairness and respect where people are appreciated for their character and accomplishments rather than their outward appearances. We can create a more peaceful and compassionate community where everyone is treated with care and respect by encouraging a culture of fairness and inclusivity.

4. To look sexy

Women who feel it permits them to express their sensuality and feel attractive may decide to expose their cleavage. Respecting each woman's unique choices in how she displays herself is vital since feeling sexy is a deeply personal and empowering experience. But it's important to keep in mind that sexiness is subjective and that everyone has their own definition of what it is. Instead of objectifying or evaluating women exclusively on their appearance, we should celebrate the many different forms of beauty. Let's create an atmosphere where women can feel empowered, embrace their own special brand of sensuality, and be recognized for their inner strengths and abilities as well.

Why do guys stare at women's clevage?

It's crucial to address the subject of why some guys might stare at women's cleavage with respect and understanding. Even though not all men exhibit this behavior, it might be caused by a mix of biological urges, social upbringing, and personal opinions. By nature, men are drawn to visual stimulation, which occasionally includes the female body. Socially, because of cultural expectations and media representations that frequently place an emphasis on physical appearance, some people objectify women. But it's important to understand that staring is impolite and might make women feel uncomfortable or objectified. It is essential to advance a culture of esteem, agreement, and equality. We may try to create a culture where people are valued for their character and treated with dignity, concentrating on genuine connections rather than objectification, by facilitating open talks, educating about limits, and encouraging empathy.

Do men find clevage alone attractive?

Human nature's complex and multidimensional trait of attraction differs from individual to person. Even though some men might find cleavage alone alluring, it's crucial to remember that attraction is influenced by a variety of elements, such as individual preferences, cultural influences, and life experiences. What appeals to one individual might not appeal to another. It's crucial to understand that attraction extends beyond a person's physical appearance and takes into account their personality, IQ, and a variety of other traits. It's essential to promote a culture where people are valued for their distinctive qualities and where respect and understanding guide all of our interactions. Let's appreciate the variety of human attraction and promote a culture of sincere connections built on respect for one another and similar principles.

[Walt832]

I know is cultural and religion, i fully respect.

Is this the reason India origins covered?

There is some YouTube documentary. Quatar soccer games womans from different countries arrived and all males were thirsty 🤣. Authorities, prevent and asked or be locked up for females not covering themselves.

Example even CR7 his wife is sick covering her body. When she is used to wearing almost see through dress, short dresses or bikinis or shorts. She had complained him about it, if she continues living this type of life. She heading out the door with the kids.

Yesterday, i was at the grocery store. I am Latino and saw an beautiful Indian female dress up nice but covered as office work and head covered. The reason I say beautiful is by her personality.

I was analyzing, it works for those they are thirsty because pushes them off, there is nothing to view (respectfully) and works for those who really are man that are interested in their personalities. Is like if you want to date me, date me who i am not by cleavage. That was my point of view.

[DragonBorn87]

I agree with you. It's should matter what's on the inside and getting to know someone instead of judging someone by there looks. I get so sick and tire of hearing men/women say I would never date him/her cause they are ugly. Men/women go by looks alone when it comes to deciding on who they want to be with and it shouldn't be that way. We shouldn't go my looks alone we should start getting to know someone to find out if you want to starting dating them instead of judging my looks on if you wanna start dating someone. A person that you think is to ugly to ever date could be the sweetest man/woman you could ever meet and treat you like a king/queen but instead you go for only attractive men/women who 9 times out of 10 treat you like garage and the relationship doesn't workout. Then after some many failed relationships go by and you say you will never find the right person for you when that right person for you could be a man/woman who you think is to ugly to ever give a chance cause you go by looks alone instead of getting to know someone personally and going by that to decide to date them of not

[bobalife]

Dependssss on the girl & situation. In general, it is uncomfortable, creepy/pervy vibes, or not very gentlemanlike to stare hard as to why most women may get angry.
Lets say I am in my idgaf mode how I am dressing, just minding my own business, this is just part of my style when I go out yet I can't help I have natural big boobs, or look sexy at times even when I ain't trying... so I do not like it if guys stared when I had no intention for it rather I find him attractive or not. But if I am feeling myself, low key wanted some attention, it's a guy I wanted to create sexy vibes with, partying/clubbing, or wanted to show off my goodies in a cute/sexy fit... then I wouldn't be mad but be flatter lol.
can't speak for all women except from my knowledge, experience, and this is just me.

[elizamichale1]

Tbh i believe no girl should mind that coz if they are confident enough to show off then they should own upto it n shouldn't be bothered by staring...
Only time its not acceptable is when someone gets really weird about it n stares like a creepy person
And i believe in as they say flaunt it if you got it lol

[Kelly6]

I don’t mind if someone is looking

[VanillaSalt]

Women are like fine art to be admired... if you don’t wanna show then cover up if you don’t cover ima take a peek. It’s fair.

[Lloyd1985]

The women who annoy me are the women who get angry when men are looking while she's leaving literally nothing to the imagination.

[elizamichale1]

@Kelly6 and thats how it should be

[elizamichale1]

@VanillaSalt yea fair enough lol

[elizamichale1]

@Lloyd1985 and you are right in getting annoyed tbh

[TruthBringer]

@Lloyd1985 Truth bomb dropped

[TruthBringer]

Ah, finally a woman with sense. It's a breath of fresh air.

[elizamichale1]

@TruthBringer hehe thanks darling

[Saturnxox]

I don't care if you look at them, I probably won't even really notice.
I just hate it when guys feel the need to yell at me to let me know that I have big tits or good tits or that they make you horny.
I'm aware that I have boobs... please let me just walk by in peace.

[Lloyd1985]

You mean this doesn't get you feeling all Niagara Falls?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqcZDWOgj3U

[VanillaSalt]

Exactly this is just respect.

[Sabretooth]

mmm... those are some sweet tits!

[navyrobin]

@Sabretooth Cringey guy alert

[Sabretooth]

@navyrobin hahaha! I'm sorry, I couldn't resist myself. And no, I wouldn't say things like that publicly.

[navyrobin]

@Sabretooth LOL ok good 😂

[Sabretooth]

I troll from time to time-I make it pretty obvious.

[LLYN-95]

As a woman, I roll my eyes at this. You obviously want that attention popping your tits out and wearing tight ass booty shorts. Quit denying. I've done it and would do it to show off.

I am gonna say women get mad at ugly dudes staring, but, of its a hot boy she'll not complain
🙄

[LLYN-95]

haha truth fucking hurts baby cakes don't it?

[Isac132]

hahaha, I love how every now and then someone sincere pops up xD

[Hangry22]

Finally someone said the truth

[BigSis]

Yes. I mean if a girl has giant tits and she's wearing an oversized fruit of the loom t shirt while grocery shopping, please leave her alone. But I like buying a lowcut dress and thinking "ho ho, wait till he sees this!" If there aren't any men in my life, I'm going to wear pajamas and the occasional pretty dress. Dress like a slut is uncomfortable, but sometimes worth it just for the thrill factor.

[Silver158]

the girls downvoting this be like "stop telling our not so secret secrets!"

[MindYourEyes]

Alright she said it perfectly 😆

[bluetoblack99]

Thank God for common sense women. Too bad you are a minority.

[brennanhuff]

Yeah that's more often true. I don't stare, but women have seen me glance and either didn't mind or gazed back at me or actually moved their hair aside to see her boobs even better when making eye contact with me, I more often think it's nothing, but find it interesting. When I was shopping at a store earlier today. A pretty girl was walking down and I was going by and we both made eye contact with each other. She kind of held it or well I guess I did for a split second, but sub consciouis or conscious in doing so. She didn't really have cleavage, it wasn't a deep cut shirt. But my peripheral vision noticed she did have a little v cut. But when making eye contact with me, her hair kind of moved her hair a little, it was subtle, but a little and a slight adjustment with her shirt that made her boobs more visible or less obstruction to the view of them. Sometimes if a girl is uncomfortable from a guy she'll do something that might alter to where she's covering it a little bit. But she did the opposite and that wasn't the only time that's happened.

[Unit1]

Most helpful opinion right here!

[TruthBringer]

Late to the party, but it's refreshing seeing a sincere woman with a functioning brain on this website. You are absolutely right! Sad to see you're not active anymore. This website got even worse each time someone sane leaving it. I can only wish more women choose to take accountability of their actions and see they are in control aswel instead of playing victim while they themselves are the perpetrators.

[Mark-IV]

because they are hypocrites and show cleavage because they want to attract a guy, but if another guy they consider unattractive flirts with them they immediately and often publicly reject him, they only want very good looking guys to approach them.

this behavior is the reason why Asian and Middle Eastern societies value modesty in female behavior and clothing, because as soon as women tie their looks to their value to society, the whole thing goes to shit and you end up with a degenerate society of only fans models making more money than female Law professors

[TruthBringer]

I couldn't have said it better myself! Everyone should read this. How the west is today with simping and only fans is why more conservative societies see showing off body parts as a taboo

[hi_it_is_me123]

Why do white American men think like cavemen. As middleeastern/Asian woman you are bullshit. Come here in turkey, you will get beaten up for staring like a bastard at us

[Mark-IV]

@hi_it_is_me123 I’m not American, I’m from Libya.

And your women are Muslim in name only, Turkish women have god awful personality, they dress like a slut yet act all moral when approached, they want to have it both ways, at least european girls are more honest with themselves

[hi_it_is_me123]

Aww so you arabic bastard. At least we dont lock the women up and force them to wear Ninja outfits

[hi_it_is_me123]

Anyway you guys shouod learn to control keep your dick inside, instead of raping women.

[hi_it_is_me123]

Arab men are most backward think men all over the world. You guys are stuckend in the stone age. By the way most of the Asian countries wear normal western clothes

[hi_it_is_me123]

@TruthBringer shut tf up, if you dont know a shit. Majority of arabs are backward. That is not racist, you libtard.

[hi_it_is_me123]

By the way you are again hypocritical and dont care how he talk shit about turks.

[TruthBringer]

@hi_it_is_me123 *yawn* sorry, I don't speak racist. @Mark-IV has made far more sense than you ever will. And yet you call him "backwards". How ironic. Bet some Arab hurt your feelings and now you're talking shit about an entire race. And what he said about Turks doesn't make it a good thing. Although I agree with him to a certain point. But not entirely.

[hi_it_is_me123]

By the way nothing what I say was racist.

[hi_it_is_me123]

It is a fact that women are forced to wear burkha/hijab in many muslim countries and arab men tend to be more sexist and bsckward. I dont blame them, i blame their culture. They are raised like that to think so

[TruthBringer]

@hi_it_is_me123 Well why didn't you say that much earlier? You've literally called Arabs in general backwards. And sorry hun, can't have your cake and eat it too. You only want me to stop because I don't buy into your bullshit. You're clearly hurt by an Arab. Need a hug booboo?

[hi_it_is_me123]

By the way if you hate onlyfans or any sex worker why tf you all supporting them by watching porn doe example? This whole sex industry exist because of men. It also exist in muslim countries where underage girls get forced to marry for a temporary time.

[hi_it_is_me123]

Also porn is mostly consumed in Asian/arabic world although it is sometimes illegal.

[hi_it_is_me123]

Time**

[TruthBringer]

@hi_it_is_me123 It seems that you're the one obessed with them. That's why you have such strong feelings for them. You're so mad lmfao

[TruthBringer]

@hi_it_is_me123 Sure you weren't serious, only you got mad when you found out this guy was an Arab lmfao so much damage control here

[TruthBringer]

@hi_it_is_me123 Hahaha so mad

[navyrobin]

I don’t show cleavage because I feel uncomfortable and feel like I’ll be sexualized in some way so I prefer to wear a regular shirt or something that won’t show off my body like that. But that’s just me.


However, a lot of women wear shirts that show off their cleavage because they feel confident showing their body, but that doesn’t give anyone the license to harass her sexually. You can look at her etc but you’re crossing the line when you only focus on her boobs if you’re talking to her. That’s something you CAN control, it’s not like your “biology” doesn’t let you focus on the words she’s saying. That in itself is objectification or sexism.


When you see a woman wearing a tight skirt and a blouse that reveals a lot of her cleavage, just let her be. She’s not doing anything to you. Women start to get bothered when they’re actively harassed though. That is when it’s on the person harassing her, it’s that persons fault and not hers.

[matt_gymrat]

Creeps are one thing. but if you don't want any straight man within visual sight of you to look, don't wear it. By all means that's asking for the wrong attention. Men are visually stimulated above all else. Don't want to turn that on that biological impulse that we do unconsciously to vet for a healthy "mate". Don't dress like that simple as that.

By this logic I guess a female baboon likes her ass being red. It doesn't signify anything at all. *Rolling my eyes into the back of my fucking head*

[navyrobin]

@matt_gymrat

What I said:

"You can look at her etc but you’re crossing the line when you only focus on her boobs if you’re talking to her. That’s something you CAN control, it’s not like your “biology” doesn’t let you focus on the words she’s saying. That in itself is objectification or sexism."

What you thought I said: Do not ever look at women or you're a creep!

[matt_gymrat]

There's literally no difference in what you just typed. lmao

[navyrobin]

@matt_gymrat If you really can’t see the difference, that’s quite tragic.

[matt_gymrat]

I've literally had this conversation hundreds of times already with multiple women. Hot guys = good, not attractive guys = bad. The point is we don't get a chance just like right now with the condescending response. Holy fuck you're a piece of work.

[navyrobin]

My response is condescending because it’s like talking to a wall. Hot guys are still creeps for staring.

Staring isn't the same as glancing. Okay?

Staring = looking intently at somebody for longer than 5 seconds

Glancing = just casually noticing somebody and then looking away and going about your day.

If you are telling me that women should be held responsible by the lack of control men have over their own behavior, then yes you deserve every condescending response there is to it.

[matt_gymrat]

Well creeps should be told to fuck off but it seems like hot guys get off with a lot more.

Don't act like what you just cooked up in your head came from my mouth.

24, was it? With sincerity you do well with the time that you have left because the wall is not gonna tickle.

[navyrobin]

@matt_gymrat "Creeps are one thing. but if you don't want any straight man within visual sight of you to look, don't wear it. By all means that's asking for the wrong attention. Men are visually stimulated above all else. Don't want to turn that on that biological impulse that we do unconsciously to vet for a healthy "mate". Don't dress like that simple as that."

That is what you said, there's nothing more I "cooked up" in my head. You are justifying men's lack of control over themselves, and you're acting like women are responsible for YOUR behavior.

"24, was it? With sincerity you do well with the time that you have left because the wall is not gonna tickle."

Time that I have left for what? Are you on drugs?

[life_is_hard]

RIGHT they'll blame the fact that they can't control themselves on the fact that they're a man. no sir, you're just a horny mess.

[life_is_hard]

@matt_gymrat there is. why would you sit there and stare at someone's chest for eternity when you could take a glance then move on. that's just a lack of self control.

[navyrobin]

@life_is_hard He’s ignorant and doesn’t know it. In a way it’s comical because it makes you realize that he’s not trolling when he says women are to blame for all of men’s irresponsible behavior

[brennanhuff]

Well you said it there STARE. Women don't mind if a guy glances generally as they know they'll get looks with their boobs out. They just don't like dudes leering and gawking at their boobs as it's creepy to them. A women might not like if a guy glances either if she sees him. But the stare can feel uncomfortable to her. And it might not be fair, but a guy's vibe and looks also gives a man more leeway too. No good looking guys will still not usually get a pass if they stare like creeps. But a confident, handsome man who may briefly glance and then look off. May have a chance of being flattering to some women whereas, unattractive guy looking not welcome. Women have never had a problem if they noticed I glanced, but I also don't stare either. I try not to look if she's look at me or a subtle glance and that's it.

[Dongtai]

I don’t think women care about a glance. I think it’s when men are obviously staring and thinking god knows what and it gets worse if men verbalize their thoughts. It’s about tact. Glance. Don’t stare. If she’s attractive enough to get your attention do her a courtesy and introduce yourself and learn she’s more than a body. If she doesn’t tell you no, compliment her outfit. Don’t compliment her body.


Why do women do it? They like to feel pretty and beauty. Most people feel good when they look good. But that doesn’t mean they’re open to random people staring. I know it’s a paradox but look. Admiration takes like 3 seconds. Glance then drop it unless you’re wanting to get to know that woman.

[TeeSquare]

Because you STARE as if they are just a sexual object instead of a person. Admire is one thing staring is just rude and inconsiderate.

[John_Doesnt]

[KrakenAttackin]

@John_Doesnt. Well said John. This soi Boi needs to find his nut sack.

[TeeSquare]

2 perfect examples of boys ⬆️

[Allebana]

Exactly! Staring is rude at

[TeeSquare]

Even the wording of this question proves my point..

[joeblow123]

@teesquare

Canadian fag just like Justine Trudeau.

[KrakenAttackin]

@joeblow123 Exactly, he probably goes on rants about "man spreading" as well.

[TeeSquare]

Love the way you 2 keep proving what I said as tight. Thanks👍 maybe one day you'll grow up into a man and wear boxers too

[TruthBringer]

One key thing you've missed. It's only rude and inconsiderate whenever they don't find a guy attractive. The dude they DO find attractive who is staring gives them validation, ESPECIALLY if it's a guy they desire.

[TeeSquare]

No you're wrong... its rude and impolite to stare regardless of they find the guy attractive or. not. How would you like it of some girl you found attractive did nothing but stare at some body part. Would you rather not talk to her face to face instead face to distant eyes?

[TeeSquare]

If I'm so wrong? How come so many feet. alws agreed with what I said?

[TruthBringer]

Hahaha 8 women agree with you and many more men disagree in the comments alone. If you think the truth is based on the amount of likes you got, then I got bad news for you. This is female nature I'm talking about. Staring is uncomfortable unless in certain circumstances. I'm talking about these circumstances. Never have I argued that staring itself is good

[joeblow123]

@teesquare

"How would you like it of some girl you found attractive did nothing but stare at some body part."

It happens all the time.

[joeblow123]

@teesquare

I get stares and smiles from girls all the time, dude. Hang it up, boy. You"re out of your league.

[joeblow123]

@teesquare

Tight with falsehoods.

[joeblow123]

@John_Doesnt

When it comes down to it you're alright.

[TeeSquare]

Smh... definitely different leagues. Classy vs trashy. Guess which you're not

[KrakenAttackin]

@teesquare your being a beta/soi boy/white knight will NOT help you get laid. These women wear skimpy outfits, push-up bras, short skirts, tight yoga pants, because they WANT ATTENTION. Just like the idiot who blasts his car stereo in residential neighborhoods.

We can argue about "right" and "wrong" all day long, but what we are dealing with is fundamental human nature. If you take certain actions you will elicit certain responses, only a fool denies this. These women WANT attention, but they only want it from the top 5% of Chads (which does not include you by the way). Think about that. You are fighting for a woman's right to cock-tease every man in a room and GET MAD if they get attention from anyone but the one Chad. Don't go down this female non-sense road.

[TruthBringer]

@KrakenAttackin Isn't it sad that I got more experience with female nature compared to that man who is literally twice my age. It's thanks to this knowledge I managed to have success in dating (relationship and weeding out low quality women) and overall self improvement. I can't imagine thinking like that guy at the age of 47, yuck!

[joeblow123]

@KrakenAttackin

I've read the other threads where you are in a flame war with my stalker. Yes, I know she is here. Stirring shit up. She gets bent out of shape when I talk to other girls. She is so jealous she tries to sabotage my conversations with other women. I told her incels and MGTOW's are not the same thing (I'm MGTOW) and now she is finding out how right I was.

[TruthBringer]

@joeblow123 Who is the stalker? Maybe I also clashed with her lmfao

[joeblow123]

@TruthBringer

"Who is the stalker?"

Hi it is me 123. This will back my case: mensrightsboard.blogspot.com/.../...itisme123.html

I told her not to badmouth the Men's Rights Movement. She didn't want to follow that rule so I told her to hit the road: mensrightsboard.blogspot.com/.../blog-post_21.html

"Maybe I also clashed with her"

I don't know. Have you?

[TruthBringer]

@joeblow123 Dude that racist girl I've been arguing back and forth with under this thread? LMFAO. Just check out Mark-IV's and Scarlet's comment section and see for yourself. That girl is not only a stalker (apparently), but is also a low IQ racist prick who can't come up with arguments that don't backfire at her. She attacked a Libyan man for being Arab and shared a video that Arabs are "the least desirable". That video ended up contradicting her claim. This girl is beyond pathetic.

[joeblow123]

@TruthBringer

She gets into fights with so many people it's hard to keep track.

[Anonymous]

Women will say that it's for themselves, or that men should control themselves. But when they hit 50, a lot of them say they feel invisible...

Read one of the many accounts of this...

https://www.readersdigest.co.uk/culture/books/meet-the-author/what-50-looks-like-now-the-invisibility-of-middle-aged-women

''It's outrageous and humiliating for a woman to be ogled at as she walks past a building site.

Until the moment when it stops, at which point she feels crushed by the unfairness of her advancing years. Hurled into invisibility when she still feels like a girl inside.''

In answer to the question, it's because they only want attractive men to look... not mr receding hairline, beer bellied Bill from accounts.

[laPrincesitaRoxi]

Why men go to job but than get mad when woman ask for money? 🤨
Why men have car if not want to give women free rides? 🤨
Why men have big strong arms if they not help women for everything? 🤨
Why men have phone if they no want women to go through it? 🤨

[ObscuredBeyond]

- There is a difference between intentionally baiting someone, and envying their wealth.

-There is a difference between flaunting your body in spite knowing how the opposite sex thinks, and acting entitled to an inanimate object in someone else's possession when they didn't invite you to that inanimate object.

- There is a difference between sexual self-broadcasting, and being enslaved by another for something you have but don't broadcast boastfully.

- There is a difference between noticing something that someone puts on a huge display, and breaking into someone else's private zone to steal forbidden knowledge.

- There is a difference between gazing, and outright theft.

All your counters are lynch-pinned on an inability to make fine distinctions.

[laPrincesitaRoxi]

Why do men feel the need to come up with the most random analogies about when it comes to issues regarding gender? Like what you guys say don’t even make sense and even you sillies know it because you constantly have to do this irrelevant analogies that aren’t actually touching in the actual subject and essentially creating loopholes so their ideology can make sense.

[ObscuredBeyond]

You crafted the analogies. I merely deconstructed them, showing them to be absurd and dishonest. Unless invited, or it were an emergency, I wouldn't go through a woman's phone. I expect the same courtesy regarding mine.

Besides, you'd be bored going through my phone. Mostly Instagram posts about how Whitmer is an evil dictator. Or how FB Fact Checkers are full of BS. Or how Pelosi is insane. Or how Bill Gates belongs on a rocket headed for the nearest neutron star.

My salary wouldn't impress you. My van wouldn't impress you either. You might like my arms, but that's about it.

[navyrobin]

@laPrincesitaRoxi Exactly. Some men are pathetic they only wanna blame their bs on girls/women

[navyrobin]

@ObscuredBeyond What do you mean by women intentionally baiting men?

WE 👏🏼 DONT 👏🏼 DRESS 👏🏼 FOR 👏🏼 YOU!

[ObscuredBeyond]

@navyrobin: "I'm gonna flaunt it, cause I got it!"

Dude: "Okay."

Her: "Not you!"

Other gal: "Skank!"

Her: "You're just jealous!"

Dude: "Whatever."

Whether a chick flashing her rack, or a dude rocking his guns, it doesn't matter whom you're doing it for. It's still vanity. And do you think vanity is without a price?

[ObscuredBeyond]

@navyrobin : YOU don't dress for a man's gaze. You don't speak for all women. Believe me. I've had wannabe "Girls Gone Wild" show up at disrupt video shoots of mine that had nothing to do with the topic. Maybe you're not insane like that; but trust me: those types do exist.

[FýrdracaDócincel]

We don't have boobs though. What you listed are things everybody should have.

[navyrobin]

@ObscuredBeyond You just don’t get it, do you? Not everything is about YOU. Women don’t dress for YOUR pleasure. Assuming that we do just speaks volumes on your selfish and entitled attitude

[FýrdracaDócincel]

@navyrobin
Hey dipshit.
Actually challenge his point.

[navyrobin]

@FyrdracaDocincel Hey scumbag. Actually insulting other people will not make them take you seriously or listen to your demands.

[FýrdracaDócincel]

@navyrobin
Hey retard.
I don't care. Argue correctly or kill yourself so the rest of us don't have to deal with it.

Do.. the world.. a favor.

[navyrobin]

@FyrdracaDocincel I think this advice would serve you well. Thank god for abortion rights. We can now decide not to have a child who’s going to be such an ignorant, meaningless moron like you. 😘

[FýrdracaDócincel]

@navyrobin
Right.. moron.
Like someone who was EXPLICITLY TOLD that what she does doesn't reflect on all women and still found it in herself to talk back.

[navyrobin]

@FydracaDocincel And you found it in yourself to insult someone you don’t even know! And NOBODY a asked for your contribution. You’re truly a disgusting animal. Have fun with that attitude 🤩

[navyrobin]

@FyrdracaDocincel You act exactly like a spoiled brat. I realize you literally ARE a spoiled brat. Pathetic. Jump off a building and do everyone a favor 💞

[ObscuredBeyond]

@navyrobin : That's been all you've been doing this entire time! DEEERRRRRPPP!!! You insult and accuse me, instead of address my actual point. And you're mad that Fydra does it? Don't beclown yourself!

[ObscuredBeyond]

@navyrobin : You don't know on God's behalf what the child's attitudes are going to be 20 or 30 years later. Stop using your inability to argue correctly as a justification for your bigoted ageism.

[laPrincesitaRoxi]

No women don’t dress for you like navyrobin said and fydraca it was sarcasm I was making fun of how stupid men sound when they say we do things just for them like gross, this why the marriage rate has significantly gone down

[ObscuredBeyond]

You would've found the women I went to high school with extremely stupid then. They DID do those things for men. They wore the sluttiest outfits they could get away with to a Halloween party one year. They WANTED the attention. But still bitched if the exact guy they wanted the attention from didn't give it to them; and complained when they got attention from one they didn't want.

As if everyone were supposed to read their minds, and know which one they were trying to impress, and that only that one was allowed to have an opinion, but only if it were the opinion they wanted.

My only opinion of all that, was that it was asinine. I still focused my attention only on the two different women that I really gave a rat's behind about at the time, and not for what they were wearing. But they were always off trying to impress some other guys with all that skin-tight cat suit wearing and all that ass-shaking, as if they didn't think they had anything else to sell. And ignored me when I told them otherwise.

The night ended with me disappointed that I couldn't find anyone to have an intelligent conversation with. And them disappointed, because the dudes they tried to impress with their bodies could always find some chick with a better body somewhere else, and didn't need them. But it never occurred to them that all they had to do was talk abstractions with me; and I would have happily returned the gesture, and made their night more productive.

So YOU don't do it, Roxi. And good for you. But don't act like there aren't women out there who don't. You've never lived in my neck of the woods. You'd probably consider them beneath you; but they do exist.

[laPrincesitaRoxi]

They weren’t “women” they were girls, I get a bad taste in my mouth when guys referring to young girls as women when they aren’t it’s just creepy as fuck.
Also no high school girls don’t just dress sexy for men that’s just the age age when a lot of girls want a more mature look sorry but it’s just a part of puberty.
Also well yeah most people end up disappointed when their crush didn’t like them the fuck? And it was high school girls OF COURSE THEYRE EXTRA EMOTIONAL AND BECOME UPSET ONCE AGAIN PUBERTY DOES THAT.

Also you just aren’t understanding women don’t dress for men right? Like I don’t understand how males just can’t take a fucking answer for what it is, nobody dresses for you a want to act mature in high school and obsess over boys is completely normal and apart of growing up you’re overthinking it line crazy.
Also they ignored you because you sounded dumb and thought what you thought on your own, they dressed sexy for them and probably didn’t give a shit about their crushes approval neither it isn’t how it works.
Also you sound like a narc if you think agreeing with you is an “intelligent conversation”.
Sorry to break it to you but they didn’t care to and probably wouldn’t care to now, you ended up alone because you have a shitty personality and don’t let people talk for themselves.
They didn’t need you and pretending all of it was more than it was and trying to project all this negativity onto them is clearly just you.
Everything you describe was just pure misogyny, there was nothing there that told me these girls dressed for anyone, you’re just an idiot who had weird ass Incel like thoughts if I’m keeping it real.

[navyrobin]

@ObscuredBeyond Lol, I'm not the one who started throwing insults. You are just biased toward his favor because he has a dick too. a small one probably :P

[navyrobin]

@laPrincesitaRoxi It's like some guys are born with a tumor in their brain or some kind of brain condition or EGO PROBLEM that doesn’t let them understand basic shit. Hilarious but tragic.

[dmgstarfleet]

hahahaha!!! Ever see the old original cast SNL where Gilda Radner played a Patti Smith type called "Candy Slices"? She sang a song called "Mick you Make Me Sick". One of the lines in the song lyrics was "If you look close you can see my tits-'cause I want you to but don't want you to know that I do". (Song stars at 5:59 but the whole thing is worth seeing)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx9VGQDNMJA

[dmgstarfleet]

oops-the line is in this version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h1QlUJxHqg

[AndyOh]

To stare is a bit creepy... yet, kind of in our DNA to look. Just don't stare... at anyone really, unless they are being really weird.

And women do dress up for attention, and MOST women know that and use it. If she wants a lot of attention, she shows cleavage and maybe some leg. If not, then no cleavage and no leg or short shorts.

Woman do have many more clothing options than men do, which is great. And men like to look at women dressed well.

Sorry if some people don't like my opinion, but it is the truth!

[centerline]

I agree... the stupidest thing EVER!

they dress hot. dress slutty, dress very skimpy, and then act offended if we look...

its my opinion that if they are going to dress that way, they need to at least be able to handle a guy looking... they could even use it to their advantage, IF they were smart enough to know how...

what i mean by that is, some women who dress that way KNOW what they are doing and play the part a little bit, where as some of the less intelligent girls dress that way and dont know what to do or how to act when a guy looks, so they get mad...

[NyceGuyFinishingLast]

They feel sexy showing the goods but they don't want some cock monger drooling all over them. Guys have no self control when it comes to any private part of a woman. Doesn't even have to be on them. You could find out they use a toy, they confess to masturbating, or something. The horny little toads salivate and can't form a simple thought.

Sometimes it is a wonderful feeling to expose oneself and it would feel even better not to be objectified just because they are showing cleavage. I see women all day that are highly attractive and sexy wearing yoga pants or skin tight shorts or high skirts but I am not begging to measure their inner thighs. They want to be admired but not drooled on.

[mstbooblover]

As far as I understand the problem, I think it's first of all a matter of good education on behalf of the guys. Appreciating discretely the lady's charms will most probably be welcome, but then, keeping insisting and staring gazes to their cleavage becomes disturbing, whether their boobs be big or small. Many women seem to have contradictory feelings about their breasts. My advice for guys is to take an appreciating look without insisting. Rather obvious, isn't it? Just imagine girls staring insistingly at your crotch ;0)

[garrysingh638]

Yes it is true, girls get angry when men look at cleavage. But Here is one Question, Human bodies are just flesh. just need to think positive for both male and female.
People lives naked in jungles. No one stares at them.
Problem is that Modern human is just running after sex than respecting Women. Why do sex is important all time and Thinking about sex only.

If everyone think positive that breast given by god to women to feed their children also. What cleavage does? Positive side means nothing, negative side sexuality.
Note: Bitter truth is Human are just running after sex only. that is why women gets angry. May be many people will not like this question but it is true