Girls, Why some of you (specially otakus) like to see guys (mostly in anime I guess) in a homossexual relationship?

I really don't get that, like, well maybe that's true only in anime, so say that they have nothing to gain would be redundant. But still is pretty weird for me :/

btbc92

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It's just sexual perversions no different than those who watch and indulge in hentai. I don't watch that stuff. There may be a few shows that may imply that, but they don't dump it down your throat. It is only a recent thing they started promoting that and trying to enforcing homosexual practices in anime. For example "Mirage of Blaze" was said to be where the main characters were homosexual or implied of it based on the kind of relationship they had. To me, it was just two guys who really cared for each other like friends for a friend/mentor-to-student relationship. Nothing of the sort. If it was intended to do so, I didn't see it. NOWADAYS they are not shying away from making it sexual or two men or girls kissing. And again, I am not talking about shows that aren't heavy like the one example I said or a "Yuri" example like Bakuretsu Tenshi. Which actually showed that. I didn't have to agree with it. But it was still nonetheless good shows. Everything else today, I ain't watching that.

To be honest, unless you don't watch porn or hentai let alone both, I don't see wants the point of judging them for watching Yaoi, when again, you have enough people watching hentai. I don't know why. But my guess is they have the same perversions as men do. Just that people have their sexual preferences for entertainment.

ImpMontezuma

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I'm not judging I just curious about it ^^", because that seems not to make sense in my understanding of how those things works. Like I think It KINDA makes sense for a guy to want to see lesbian having sex because the fact behind it is that men would be imagining him with them XD. So is less about two lesbian, and more about a threesome. You can see that just by noticing that men don't care too much about lesbian romance, just lesbian sex. So EVEN if was the same case for women, so why gay romance would be important? :/ But so you say that it have a sexual reason behind it... Hmmm Ok. Still not easy to understand, but that make more sense, I guess.
Also, men watch hentai because is porn XD simple as that. And yes I watch it too ^^"

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btbc92

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You realize you are judging by asking this question. There is no sense of curiosity in it because it is what it is. It is no different than why people dabble in it in the first place. I don't care who does it. Sexual perversion is perversions. And these are perversions that they want to act out in real life but can't. You realize that plenty of men from what I am hearing do get into that but many are secretive about it. It is not just lesbian sex. It is sex that people do that is perversions and that becomes part of their sexuality. I know why men watch it. I stay away from men who do. PERIOD. And is why many girls dump you because they already find it weird. You proved why many women don't want to date men who watch anime because by "anime" they are referring to hentai.

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btbc92

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The "romance" isn't what they are interested in, they are secretly interested in the sexual aspects of it. That's all. No different than guys like yourself, which is why lesbian porn is about that. It is about sex and sex isn't even that, to begin with. But you want to fill your head with it, which is glad I let no man touch me and watches that. You'll have your hand.

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ImpMontezuma

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I have to tell you that looks like that you THINK you know why I asked it, but you really don't know the reason. You know, never judge the book by its cover? Is that kind of situation here. But if you wish to know, I asked because that behavior is against what I know, or what I though I knew, of the female sexual behavior. And I still trying to adjust the information you gave me with the "model" I have in my mind about it... And if I can't do that. I guess I'll have to admit the information I had was wrong :/ And would have to start to think about it from the very start.
Anyway... Yes I'm a kinda of cold and rational type of person. That' also why I don't judge what people do. The other reason is that I'm very perverted myself XD
So, you seem very defensive about it ^^" what I can say to you is in my opinion anyone can like that or anything else, what people like is not of my business.
But I didn't know that many men like this too... But are you saying that heterosexual men like that? That would be curious.
Again, I don't want to know what a specific person like, I just wish to understand better where that desire cames from. Even because those things helps me to understand how my own desires work.
Also are you talking about me when you say that "is why many girls dump you"? Well... I'll have to say that no one ever dump me... even because, I never date anyone XD Well, that would be very hard since I'm cartosexual, which mean I have hots only for fictional cartoon girls. And you know.. I would have to actually imagine them dumping me for that to happen, which I never did. But that actually sounds a interesting experience... So maybe I'll try someday.
SO, as you can see, many people watch hentai for good reasons... Like, for being part of their sexuality and stuff. So, maybe is you who are judging people here without realizing it?

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ImpMontezuma

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Oh, just a last detail, I read the question again, and I guess it may sound "aggressive" because of the "weird" commentary. And if so, sorry for that ^^" That wasn't my intention. You may not believe this, but I don't think about the word "weird" as being offensive. But I guess I have to be careful about using it with other people.

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btbc92

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Wait what? We are all called to make certain judgments. But you're the one that's making on my chest judgment here. You're talking about female sexuality that goes to show you you being very ignorant. Because it has nothing to do about female sexuality or any of that stuff. Sexual perversions is just that. Sexual perversions. It doesn't matter if it's a man that do it, it doesn't matter if it's a woman that do it. If you have a sexual perversions in your mind, you going to have those ideas. What people choose to do is what they choose to do.

So it has nothing to do about who is heterosexual or not, the fact is if you got perverted in your head, you're going to do those things. Hentai is not good. It's perversions. It's a good thing while you're single. And that's how you think of so-called anime girls, I can promise you they wouldn't like you doing them either. Neither would any real human female.
I can safely say you are the type of person that is not attractive. That's probably why you never really dated a real female. Because you know that for yourself and your scared of that kind of rejection. It has nothing to do with just your interest. It has everything to do with who you are as a person.

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btbc92

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What that says is that you have some type of dysfunction that doesn't allow you to have any normal heterosexual relationship with somebody else. That has nothing to do with me personally judging you that's just stating the facts. If you're saying it like that, that's a situation you're going to have to get fixed.

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btbc92

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It's a good thing that you're single*

It is not a good thing to be messing with that stuff, and then you bring that same filth into the bedroom with a real woman. What that is teaching you is that we're nothing but sexual objects for your pleasure and that's wrong.

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ImpMontezuma

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I really don't understanding what you are so mad about. How would I be judging women sexuality with what I said here? I not even affirm anything about women sexuality, I just ASKED about it. Maybe the closest thing I did in that sense was in my first reply to you where I affirm somethings, but It was about MEN sexuality, not women :/ In fact I said things about men sexuality and asked if is the same with girls.
Also the idea of anime girls is that they are not like real girls, they are the IDEAL version of real girls for some guys, like me. So, yes, they don't act and look like you or the other girls, that's why we prefer them. And If they were real, they would be exactly like that. So yes, they will behave like that, and they will be into everything that is there too. What you could say is that they couldn't be considered girls then, but something else. And I may even agree with you on that.
Anyway, I think you got too offended with those stuff. I'll try to avoid to do the same mistake you are doing here, which is ASSUME things that you don't know. So I won't try to guess why you are soo offended about it. But whatever is your reason, and, sorry to be "rude" about this, but the true is... What people, or mostly guys, want about, think about or desire about hentai girls, is none of your business. Because it has nothing to do with you. But, Ok, you have the right to have a opinion about it, everyone has the right to have a opinion about everything, but to "materialize" your opinion in this kind of verbal aggression? I think that is going a little too far here. So, I give you the right to wish, desire or to be "into" whatever you want, as long as it doesn't harm other people of course. But I demand the same right here.
Also you can be sure that I'm single because I WANT TO BE SINGLE, it was not by lack of opportunities. And I'm very handsome too :3 I already reject many girls that are probably way more cute than you :p

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btbc92

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I know you're single because of what kind of individual you are and you so proud all the toxicity and a narcissistic attitude that you got. Saying about me being mad about it the fact that you find it's okay there's a lot parent know you prefer them because you're upset that you can't get away with your conversion. And then you treat real ones back. And first of all know they would not like you at all. They really wouldn't. Gary I'm not getting offended what I find it to be really sick because you think it's acceptable behavior and it's not. What I am getting upset about is that it's causing so much pain and heartache to those who just want to love you and all you care about is getting your next fruit. It's not about me or you or anybody assuming I'm just telling you the reality play. Meaning of Roy and I can safely tell you that's not what most guys want. That's what a lot of you've been brainwashed too desire. And about for me to desire whatever it is that I want, and it does cause harm. Sex is a very serious thing, and when you chew to do someone that becomes part of you. Don't cause mom. And you think I care if you are more cuter than me know because I won't want to have sex with someone like you anyway. It ain't about what you look physically it's about what's in your heart which is darkness and filth.

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btbc92

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Now you know damn well you were telling yourself a b s y. You don't want to be single. You're upset because nobody in their right mind can actually love you for supposedly you. That's why you turn to pornography and those anime girls because you think that's the idea. Know the reality is there are plenty of girls that that Far and Away what you see. But we don't look all the time like what you envisioned. And I know because I'm one of those girls. You upset because you can't get a person like myself. And I'm not talkin about my look, or just personality. It's about the spirit. And you're upset because real girls who emulate what you say that you desire I'm not interested in you. You've been through so much you now try to make it out as a surprise, as if you're the one that others are missing out, that's why you so could reject other girls. Because you ended up attaching some type of demon on you that you ended up picking up somewhere. And then you picked up more demons, lusts spirits and the demons succubus and incubus spirits from the hentai. You're actually having sex with demons and you don't even realize that. They somehow merged into your genetics. So I know exactly what it is.

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btbc92

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You're talking about the way how Society chose to made it oh, that also includes depending on what societies you're talkin about. What you're doing is one of the top main reasons years ago Japanese girls will be breaking up with their boyfriends or not be dating certain men because they had preferences like yourself. Because you will never be satisfied with a real person. So of course you turned to anime girls for you to impose your perversions on. They don't have a say oh, because they made to be as if they don't even have a soul, or a self. Women don't do any of that stuff simply because they want to. It's actually in the minority. Women only do it because it's the only way to make you happy. God had called meant to be the head for a reason. For women to desire men for a reason. Since you're only desire now is for us to be so perverse even at our own detriment, these girls would do anything even if it means for you to tell him to go jump off a cliff. That's how much they don't have a sense of self anymore. Or end up cutting themselves. That's how much of an impact a man has on a woman. So I highly suggest you really think about that.

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btbc92

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So it's not that it don't hurt anybody. In your mind you want to think that it doesn't because that's how selfish and self-centered you really are. Do you not know God calls that wickedness. But many of you would say that you don't care about God because you thinks he don't exist. But yet you got human beings right in front of you telling you what you're doing and you think it's not doing anything. If you want to be made blameless. You only want to complain when it impacts you. What is somebody told you don't seem where you just told me? I'm pretty sure you wouldn't like it being done to you. If anything I'm trying to seriously make you think, because you don't see what you're doing is only causing yourself more misery. You are free to be celibate like iron. And I'm a virgin and all especially for a reason that you're saying why I'm glad I avoided it with men. What if you're doing all of that kind of stuff that means you're not being honest with yourself. All you're basically saying, no offense, it's how very miserable you are especially sexually. But I guarantee you. You get any woman who allows that kind of stuff she's only going to treat you poorly because it's not about love for her it's about getting what she can get for you stuff really no different than how you think it. Then if you're not satisfying to her she can easily move on to the next man. Even virgins now all those that are supposedly virgins are going to have the same mindset. Because women now got plenty of options.

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btbc92

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You don't see buddy, if you are Desiring sex with somebody, it's every right there damn business. I am not dating somebody who participates in it. Now let's he is not expecting any kind of sucks going on with ain't going to happen until marriage, I ain't messing with him and he ain't touching me. That's what dating is supposed to lead to, a sexual relationship at some point down the line. So if you think is nobody's business, they're going to ask you if they had sex with you where you bought that from. Because they'll find out on your own if not when you have sex. I think you better really think about how selfish you really are. So if it's none of our business, it's none of your business what we do privately in our lives either.

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ImpMontezuma

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I'm not upset with anything :/ I'm more confused about your aggressive behavior for no apparent reason. But since you insist on trying to guess things about me, and obviously being wrong about the vast majority of those things (if not all) I'll do the same with you now. It looks like someone you care about traded you for hentai. Or maybe someone treated you "badly" in a similar way as the anime girls are treated, and you blamed the influence of hentai for that. Look, my dear, what you don't understand here is that: is not the consumption of "media" that makes a person behave badly. What makes a person behave badly is the lack of someone to teaching that person how to behave correctly. So, from the moment a person know how to separate what is right from what is wrong to do, that person cannot be "influenced" to do the wrong anymore. Another thing is, as I said, if you think that men treat hentai girls wrong, the first thing you need to understand about this is 1) That's just fantasy. Like, maybe you got impressed by some very hardcore scene that you saw on hentai and, Of course that things like torture and humiliation are never things that people should do in real life with anyone.

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ImpMontezuma

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And 2) if you want to go further than that. Like, if you think that girls role in hentai are "bad" in any sense, even without a clear reference to "non-consent". Well, just know that, the fact that you don't like to behave in a certain way doesn't give you the right to IMPOSE other people to behave the way you want. What is "bad" for you, can be good for someone else. Anyway, as I said, as long as there is consent and there is no clear harm to another person, imposing what you think is the "right behavior" on other people is a form of authoritarianism on your part. So, feminist, can be the WORST kind of fascists sometimes.
Anyway I don't like heavy stuff in hentai, like those I just describe. So I really have no idea what you mean about "causing so much pain and heartache to those who just want to love you" I'm not causing pain in anyone :/ Also, no one is "brainwashed" to desired anything. That's a paradoxical thought, Like, even if you are "influenced" to desire something, for the moment you begin to desire that something, that will became your personal wish. And it will make sense for you to go after that wish.
And EVEN when we talk about the inside here, you are just assuming things about me that you simple don't know. As I said I'm not a sadist, I don't like to cause pain in any sense and in anyone. Hentai is not about this. Hentai is just the representation of your internal desires, whatever those desires are. So hentai can be anything from pure gore, to the sweetest romance. I like the second more, but EVEN people who like the first, that's OK, as long that person is aware that its just a fantasy.

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btbc92

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Hentai is not that. I have seen what h***** is. And it's not what you think it is. It is not internal desires. It has everything to do with the fact that it's destroying to what it is. And it's not sweet romance. Because romance is none of that felt romance don't harm others, romance is it dirty, it's not a fantasy. You're bringing that into the reality that you can't express because that's something that you personally want. Enforceable it is being brainwashed. I think one of my friends has divorced, my late mother who suffered through that in her own marriage, and plenty of women can tell you exactly that. That is why you're single. Because if you're not prepared to sacrifice for the welfare of the person, you're going to have problems. That is not a personal wish. I'm pretty sure a lot of women don't really want that. They are forced to believe that because somebody like you it's pretty much everywhere. I have never dated, and I would never be involved with a man who would do me that way. That's abuse. I can very much put the blame on Satan and everybody else is in agreement. And I'm teaching you that now. And you don't want to be taught. You don't want to be taught from right from wrong because you thinking what is right isn't wrong. And you had nobpdy else challenge you. Because I know what it is. Lack of Love of yourself.

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btbc92

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Do you honestly think I would trust a man like yourself who indulges themself in that stuff? Really ask yourself this question. Do you honestly think anybody would put their trust in an individual who dabbles and stuff like that? Why should there be humiliation and torture? Do you actually understand what it's like to be humiliated, tortured by people? Do you know what it means to be abused? First of all sex and exchange of something, it is between two people who have a desire to be intimate with each other, what you're talking about is not intimacy. You're using something that is meant to be pure, innocent Thomas and private into something that is dirty. that's not sex. And I'm pretty sure plenty of my friends and family who has stable Sex lives, that have families of Their Own, and been married for years, that never dabbled in any of that stuff can safely tell you they wouldn't want that in their bedroom. And I know people who had Partners like yourself who did and they were miserable. That is sexual abuse and that is emotional, mental, and psychological abuse. That is spiritual abuse. What you're doing is having sex with yourself. And you don't even know what it is that you're really doing. Because I'm pretty sure psychology can say that it descentises the person, and that shapes how you view it. It has nothing to do with eternal desires. It has everything to do with your genetic. If you have ancestors that have done those things and falls out, that's because transferable to your genetics. That means if you want to get a girl pregnant, then everything you doing now sexually including all of that is going to transfer it into your bloodline though sexual intercourse.

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btbc92

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Now if your daughter have a hard time being stuck with one man guess what she could thank you for it. If she has a hard time fully enjoying speculation needs to because God forbid she became a nymphomaniac, she can technically blame you for it. If she can't even hold a marriage let him be able to get married because she slept around with hundreds of men, guess what? If she were to find out that you or whoever it is you paired with them similar she can blame one of the other for it because what you do becomes literally part of you. You have no idea that you literally playing with fire. There are times where I hear the stuff from people and I just want to cry because it's that filty, it shouldn't say that way.

There is nothing normal or human how people indulge and have sex today. Even those who been exposed to pornography and truly believe that sucks to be an intimate act between you and your spouse, and expression of self for your love for that individual, would not even want to be around that. It would literally bother them. That's why a lot of women feel undesired, they feel sexually dissatisfied, and they giving up on men and love all together. Because they don't know what love, or sex is, let alone what is a real man anymore.

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btbc92

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I can safely tell you those are not my internal desires because my desires is not polluted with that filth. Thank God. That is the lie that you told yourself, and that is a lie that these people that produced those anime and manga, or even porn in general lied and sold to you. Though, because in reality that is the line that you chose to believe. Because you have nothing else to believe in. Because of you had real intimate connections with women, and I'm not talkin about being sexual with them, I am literally talking about Ashley speaking with women and getting to know them as people you will see that's not that. And that's what the indulgences they only doing it for one reason. Because they have nobody to actually sell real intimacy with. Because any amount of sets that they think is if that's all they been exposed to no different than a lot of other people. If that is all you're being exposed to that's what you going to believe. But if you had not known what you was shown, I guarantee you your vision of sex would be entirely different. Which is probably why those who never dabbled in no stuff have more sexually stable and more sexually satisfying relationships.

So says you're the one that supposedly an expert at this.. please explain why in the world am I going to give up my sexual rights when I could be doing so much better? Please explain to me why my going to settle for less? I am not even laughing at this conversation because that's just how sad it is. If anything I really pity you.

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btbc92

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I don't even think you're really paying attention to half of the stuff you're telling me. Unless you having problems with comprehension, why in the world would you be in agreement with something that you say you don't agree with? I don't understand. That sounds like hypocrisy to me. A person who says they enjoy watching something that has humiliation, Gore, blood everywhere, or whatever, torture, would not like to see actual humiliation, Gore, blood, or torture anywhere in front of him in the real world? How do you know those anime our world that you're actually seen that could be real somewhere else? Now you be saying how I'm confusing reality with fantasy. But I'm just asking a question. If these were real places, and you're singing or getting a glimpse into another place where this is actually happening, why would you be interested in indulging in it? You people on making something that's dysfunctional normal, when it's not normal and it's being normalized. They have studies that show that these kind of things mentally and physically are seriously detrimental. What that says about you if you want to be sexually intimate with someone else, you would have been a selfish lover who would not know how to properly love another woman because according to you sex is just pleasure. Yikes! No wonder why a lot of people are cheating and divorce rate is so high.

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btbc92

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No. Asker, no. No amount of virtual reality will be able to satisfy what you claim you desire. Because in reality you don't even know what you desire. You sound very confused as a person, and it's making you miserable. And I know why you feel that way because Society has told you what you feeling what to go out there and what to desire. But if you're really saying at the knot means you know those are not your desires. And you need to change. As I said before, the so-called women that you see an anime that you claim that you desire, they exist. We are all around you. But as long as you are that kind of man, who treats text that way, who treats our bodies that way, who see us as regular people that work, what are you so cool bus prophecy what prophecy do whatever profits is physically, that's why you're single. Because you don't respect the true us. You don't respect for women. And that's all it taught you. How to degrade women as you degrade yourself.

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ImpMontezuma

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Well I guess I don't want to be single🤔 but the "person" I want to marry doesn't exist, What can I do? ^^" Like, I'm not have much choice here. But if you want more details, I'm kinda waiting that MAYBE someday humanity can create a very convincing virtual reality or maybe a android XD
In fact if you are curious to know how those things work for people like me, I think you can "feel" what is like watching this:

hxxps://www. youtube. com/watch? v=vO0Qbb-l3yo

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ImpMontezuma

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I guess I put this message on the OP too by mistake ^^" But whatever, anyway.

I believe this video will be especially good for you to understand my point of view, because it start somewhat with a "perverted" sense. But it will turning into something different and start in a very sweet way.

Which is something that I think girls should understand about guys. That, is not because we are "perverted" that we think about you all as objects, or that we don't think or wish romance too. That is just how or minds works ^^"

Also don't get me wrong, I'm not that childish, I don't actually expect that would happen, I just wish it T_T

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btbc92

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No. What it is is that yours are dissatisfied and miserable person and you don't even love yourself. You don't want anything human, because you yourself feel inadequate as a human. I bet you don't even know what your purpose is in this life, and it makes you feel lazy about it. The reality is you hate life. So much so you hate yourself. That's why you indulge in that the way you do with such obsessions, and is not because you want to get away from the world, is because that's all you feel consumed by. That does not sound mentally and psychologically good and I highly suggest that you see a therapist.

First of all, if you have no logical rational reasons to be with an individual, to be married, you don't need to be in it. Because you're too selfish as a person. So somebody like you would not be able to handle it. So you very much have a choice. Either you change or stay where you're at. Its very much your choice, but it's not impossible. You're just too stubborn to do anything about it

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btbc92

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No that is not how your mind works. What that tells me is that you got a demon involved that is attached to your mine and it's telling you how to work because you don't have no sense of self. All that tells me is that you have some type of mental problem or psychological issue and is tied into a spiritual problem that's why you think that's what you want. It's not what you really want. I very much understand what that is. It's demons. You just making an excuse to hold on to those demons because it feeds off of your energy. So is no personal offense to you. I don't need to watch a video to have a sense of understanding. All it is is just going to validate the facts of what was presented to you. That's why you want Android, that's what you want beyond, because you want to try to emulate what you feel you can't have. It's a lie. Women are not like that. What you're trying to force has to be something that already makes us miserable and makes you miserable double. You do not understand what you're asking is something inhuman. So now the question is, are you even human or what are you?

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btbc92

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Trust me buddy. Humanity is not going to create that. It's going to be something else that's already creating that. That stuff already exist. But it's going to be at a price. It's going to be at a price where you have to have a choice but to sell your soul. Do you really want to ask for something that's going to damn you for all eternity? Really ask yourself that question.

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btbc92

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So if you want to be in a DOT hack or Sao situation you go right on ahead you won't be able to get out.

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ImpMontezuma

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Also I don't know what else I can say to you. You seem simply not to believe me when I say that I'm not interested in real girls... But that's the true. Maybe would be the case that I'm totally different from the people you know.. I'm not sure, I don't know how many people like me exist out there. I just know that I love the same fictional girl since I was 13 yo (I'm 39 today) And I really thing that if I wish a "real girl" I would know that by now. Like 26 yeas Is a lot of time to think about this, don't you agree? XD

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btbc92

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No. No I don't. What that tells me is that you're not human. You're not different from people that I know. It makes me question are you even a person at all. And that it tells me that you have been a successful experiment it's society's creation of what they want to consider human as opposed to what God had originally intended for humans to be. It is one thing to yearn for somebody or type of person I should say, that has similar qualities to what you see. But it's one thing to say that you love fictional girl. You don't even love them. The truth is you don't love anything or anyone not even yourself. You don't love anyting. What it is is that you're just a person who's either a sex addict, or something stuck a logically isn't right with you. And you had not got help for that since you were a child. That is not good.

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btbc92

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It is exactly like I said. You see women as objects. The reason why you hate real women is because they don't satisfy you. That does not tell me that you're normal. What that tells me that you got a psychological problem that is a problem, and not healthy. And I'm being dead serious. You need help. I don't care if you want to be celibate like me like I said before and you rather die by yourself. But in the meantime, please do seek help. Before you destroy yourself.

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btbc92

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What I gather if I was to be a licensed psychologist oh, I would guess that something happened to you at 13. Because you feel rejected as a person and it doesn't sound good. I don't know if somebody rejected you when you were that age and then you got into anime and then you felt comfort from it and then you dabble into pornography eventually. I never mess with that. But I know what it's like to want to escape from trauma and to escape the toxicity of the world so you won't have to deal with your current reality. I know what that feels like if you want to say something on that end. But as far as what you're talkin about that's not psychologically normal. And I think you and I both know but that's very much true of yourself. The only type of people that I'm seeing that may be able to help your situation is a psychiatrist.

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ImpMontezuma

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Anyway, you seem to think that I tried be with a real girl first, than I was soo "pick" that I prefer to go to a virtual one. That's not exactly the case for me :/.. Well kinda. The "thing" that "disappoint me" wasn't the girls themselves, it was all the human beings XD. I guess I suffer too much bullying (with girls too in fact) when I was young, so I choose to isolate myself, then I start to watch too much cartoon and anime, and I end up becaming a fictosexual :/ Also I'm aware that I probably was to blame for suffering bullying, since everyone did that to me, even teachers... So I guess I did something wrong ^^" But it doesn't matter anymore. That's only important now, because Is the reason that make me be "anti-social" as I am today, and what made me became a fictosexual too. So in fact I'm glad that I was bullied as a teenager. Because I do love what I became now :3
Well, Sorry if you don't like people like me ^^" Just know that, we don't wish to treaty anyone in a bad way. We just want to be ourselves and to be free to like what we like.

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Also you are free to want to be treated the way you want. You are free to find a person who will treats you that way. And when you find that person. No one should tell you how you "should behave". Again, as long as you two consent and like the way you are, everything is OK. But you know, you kinda sounds like me somehow. Like I too want a person that treats me in a specific way, and that behave in some specific way... And looks like both of us simply never found anyone like that ^^". So, I kinda "solve" this by creating that ideal person in my head :3 Is more like, if this person don't exist, then I will create her. So, you seems not to be satisfied with men you know... So maybe fictosexuality could be a solution for you too? ^^" Just, imagine the ideal guy for you, and be with him. Of course, that is not a ideal solution ^^" Is just a fantasy :/ But maybe is the best we can get in this world. And again, robots and virtual reality is always a possibility for us to hope for :3

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Wow, And I though that I was the one who writes a lot XD. But I'm not complaining, I like to hear other people opinions. So lets see. Yes I'm self centered, in fact I'm very arrogant, specially about things related to intelligence, I'm kinda of narcissist, I'm selfish, and I know I sound annoying to other people :3 And the probable reason for that is that I don't care about being none of those things :3 I don't have many reasons to want other people company. As I said I'm anti social, in fact I don't think I like people in general. But I'm curious about stuff about them, that's why I'm here asking stuff. Also I know a lot of stuff about guys. So you can ask me anything about it. In fact I think I know many thing about girls better than yourselves :3 Even because I'm very rational and analytical, so I almost always can "predict" stuff correctly about things that I never experience myself. Also yes, I'm a atheist, so talking about God here will lead us anywhere. But Ok then, lets hear, how exactly I'm hurting anyone by watching hentai.

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I know real people wouldn't like to do those things. That's one of the reasons I don't go after them. Also yes, I won't like to do those things girls do on most hentais, even because I'm not homossexual. So, Ok, you think hentai end up "indirectly" making your life harder. Can you at least tell me if that is for those reasons I try to guess early? Like, Is it because you thing men aren't looking for real girls anymore? Or maybe because you thing they are treating girls badly because of its influence? Well, if so, I already answer what I think about that. Like, do you understand what you are "asking" here? You are saying something like: "You should behave differently because I don't like the same thing as you" :/ ... Like, Really? Are you listen to yourself here? And if you are saying that hentai "harms society", then again, is what I said to you. The blame is not on hentai, is on the lack of education of people who consume it. I know that I can't treat a real person the same way I would like to treat a hentai girl.

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The difference here is the **hentai girls would be MADE to like those stuff** So, you don't like that? Ok... But she would :) She also would be made to not be hurt with any of that. So the fact that you don't like it, or that you can't do those stuff without being harm is in fact THE REASON of why people like me doesn't want to go after real girls :/ Because we WANT those things, but we don't want to do it if the other person don't want it, or if the other person going to be hurt by it. And again, if no one want to do that or can do that. Ok, then we prefer to stay on fantasy world where people who do exists. Like, I said, you sounds dissatisfied with the way things are going in the world. And we are very similar in that sense. We are also dissatisfied with how things are going on this world. That's why we prefer the imaginary world. I guess the difference here is that we are not trying to FORCE YOU to behave the way we want a person to behave. Do you understand that?

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My hole point here is that is VERY WRONG to FORCE people to BEHAVE differently from what they want to behave, IF they are not harming anyone in the process. AND OK, I get it, you think we are harming people with it, but my answer for that would be a simply -> I don't believe you. We are not harming anyone by watching hentai. If you don't agree with that, I guess you will have to prove me wrong. And detail, the burden of proof is with you, because is you who are saying that something is happening here. I'm saying that nothing is happening. So I don't need to prove that.

Also again you are trying to guess things about me that you simply don't know. I'm not unhappy, I'm doing exactly the things I want to do. Like, I ponder for a long time about all my options and about what I want to do with my life. And I choose to to what I believe is the best thing for me. But of course, I'm not 100% satisfied with everything, but if I do it any other way I would be even less satisfied.
Anyway, if I'm not "completely happy" with something in my life, it is because it is impossible for me to get what I want. Or, is because I'm in the process of getting that something.

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Also I think this is a point that you may not getting it:
"if you are Desiring sex with somebody, it's every right there damn business. I am not dating somebody who participates in it"
What you didn't understand is that I don't want sex with real people. Like, is a thing that I notice about other people. They think hentai is a kinda of "substitute" for real sex, but the true is nothing like that. Is the HENTAI itself what we want. Even because, you can see that hentai has is own art style right? Like, it KINDA looks like a real person, but also not really. So think with me, is not THAT hard to make a more realistic drawing, so people on hentai would look more like a real person. So, if we don't drawn people the way they look in the real world, is because we don't want them to look like real people. We want them to look EXACLTY the way they look on the hentai. Hentai is not a substitute for anything, hentai is THE thing we want. In fact, the opposite could be true. Like, if a people like me would ever date or get into a relationship with a real girl. That would be because the real girls would be a substitute for the hentai. I hope that makes you understand better the real situation here.

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Well, what I can say is that my fictional girl may not be real, but my love for her is very real. And I would die for her without thinking twice. I would keep myself away from her if I thought that my presence harms her in any sense. Because that's what I feel how loving someone is, Loving someone is like seeing that person as if she is a extension of your own body, but not only that, she is THE most important part of your body. So the same way we cover our head to protect it, as the arms is not soo important as our head. I would put my body in front of the danger so I'll protect her, because her body is more important then my on. So, even knowing that, you still believe that I would do ANYTHING that she don't want to do? or EVEN do anything that would harm her? Sorry that's simply crazy talk to me.

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Oh, I'm seeing that you problems with hentai is what I though. You see hentai as sexual torture and humiliation of girls... Well, what I can say about you is: 1) Is true that many people like those stuffs, and there is lots of hentais like that, but 2) I don't like those things, I don't have any intention of creating pain or humiliation for the person I imagine myself having sex with. Although I think it may be the case that something I would do could LOOKs like humiliation for you. But that's not how I (and her) see it. Anyway, I would only do stuff that BOTH me and my girl want to do. And she just need to say it once for me to stop doing anything, also 3) I can understand what you mean with guys humiliating girls on hentai, but, I can't answer for what other people do. BUT as I said, I think that, as long is fantasy, is OK. You can do ANYTHING you want in your own fantasy world.

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ImpMontezuma

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Well, I think we’re kind of out of sync here, since we are obviously writing while reading the other’s incomplete answer... Also, maybe you’ve already decided to stop the discussion, and I’m here just talking to myself ^^" So, I’m going to do the other way around and start reading your last comment first. So, ok, you seem to be very conservative and religious, are you from the US? Well, you don't have to answer if you don't want to.
And look, what happened to me when I was 12-14 years old is nothing extraordinary. I was a boy from a different school, I was not adapting to the new school. Then the other boys start to bully me. I think I didn't react the way I should, so things got worse, and soon the girls also join the bully, and the teachers after that... but whatever. Yes, at that time I almost took my father's gun and shot everyone in my class. And that was before the first mass shooting in the US. So, if I weren't such a coward XD I could be the author of the first school massacre ^^" And before you say anything, I was relatively "normal" UNTIL that point. It was AFTER that, that I became antisocial. But anyway... I think today I don't have any "traumas" because of that. At least not anymore. I hated everyone most of my life manly because of that. BUT I came to the conclusion that, that's the way things are ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ that's how humans are. So it's kind of not their fault either. They just do the things they learn or the things their brains tell them to do. So, it pointless to blame anyone for that.
Also I love what I’ve become :3 So even if I could travel back in time I wouldn’t change a thing. I don’t have any problems with my self esteem. In fact, I think I have the opposite problem: a self esteem too high But it works for me XD

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ImpMontezuma

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Oh, and I enter in the

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the "porn world" only years after that, I don't live in the US. And I'm talking about 1995 or so here. So Internet wasn't a thing for me that time. I think I discover internet and hentai something like 1999, so, many years later. But of course. I have no doubs that I became fictossexual BECAUSE of porn. I just don't think this is a bad thing in my case ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. I love my life the way it is today, in fact I don't have many ambitions, I guess the biggest ambitions is just to make sure my life will remain this way for the next decades. And I have no intentions to get into any real relationship at any point of my life.

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Now about those religious stuff, as I already said, I'm a atheist, so I don't believe in any of that. BUT... Lets supposed that you are right, and I end up in hell because of it. Well, you know what? I would love that :3 Ok, I would prefer not to have the "eternal pain" part of the deal ^^". But I just love the "eternal" part. Like, In your version, I'll end up in the eternal damnation. Well, in my version, all of us will end up in the total oblivion. And I can't think of anything more scarier than that ^^". Like, simply disappear forever. So as I said I wish I go to hell when I die, even because that would mean, that I would have a tiny little bit of a chance to get what I want. Like, a eternity is a LOT of time. So chances are, that at some point, I would exit hell, and so, I would have a eternity of time at my hands to creating the things I want. So, are you saying I'm going to hell? My answer is: I hope you are write :3

Also, I'm aware that I love a fictional girl that I create in my head, and that girl doesn't exist, I mean, she exist only in my head, So in the end, she is kinda... me? So, the reality is the opposite of what you said, the reality is that, in a sense, I love myself :3

And no, I'm not a sex addicted. But I do am a porn addicted ^^". I also don't think this is a good thing. But, I don't mind either, As I said I like things the way they are. Also I been like that for at least 20 year, SO, I think that if something would go wrong, It should already happened by now.

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Also, Am I mentally ill? Well, I think we can't never be sure of thing like that XD, But I can guarantee you that even if I am mentally ill: 1) I'm harmless and 2) I like being that way... So... what's the problem? XD
Also you keep saying that hentai make you feel miserable, but I still don't understand why that's true. And I would like to know... But it sounds like you stop writing right? ^^" I guess I am talking to myself here :3 But I'm Ok with that too. I guess it easy to deduce that in my special situation I do that a lot XD
In the end, I think is you who are trying to fool yourself by saying that I have a "miserable life" because of hentai. Because In the values and in the way you see the world, what I do simply can't be a right thing. So, for you I surely getting a huge problem because of this, is the only thing that would make sense for you... So, what I have to say about that is: Your impression about reality is... kinda distorted, So in a sense, you are the one who are living in a fantasy world :3 AND... I don't see anything wrong about it. So, see? It's fun to live in a "wish it was real" world! And you agree with me, you just are not aware of it.

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I also don't only know what is my purpose in this life, but as I know what is YOUR purpose, and everyone else too. As I said, I'm a very arrogant guy XD. And if you want to know what that purpose is, again, just ask :3 But that probably gonna be a HUGE text. Also, again, I don't hate life or myself, even because I don't hate anything. And yes, I'm lazy and stubborn too, and I think we already stipulate that I'm selfish XD. But again, I don't see why that's a problem.
And I believe that for me to be confuse, or to not know what I want, I should necessary contradict the things I said, and I don't see this happening. But if you see it, just point it to me.
Also, again, seems like you think I hate real girls.. but Its nothing like that ^^" In fact, I could EVEN marry one, but I not expecting that to ever happen because 1) I really don't think I'll find one that would be the way I want, Like I'm not exactly 100% fictosexual, more like... 95% fictossexual? So.. well, there is 5% of chance that I would find a girl kinda the way I want. But 2) Even if a girl like that exist, I'm not willing to go after her ^^", since, I think I'll just lose my time, and also... I do am pretty lazy ^^" and 3) The chances that this girl would simply knock on my door are pretty slim, don't you agree? XD SOO.. I know I'll die single, And I'm Ok with it Like as I said before, I ponder a long time about all my options and I choose the one I think is best for me. Also I think other people would just bring problems to my life, and I like to have a single life without couple problems.

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ImpMontezuma

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And about respect... I don't know... What is your definition of respect? I think I do respect everyone, in fact more than most deserves XD

And Ok, you said:
"I don't even think you're really paying attention to half of the stuff you're telling me. Unless you having problems with comprehension, why in the world would you be in agreement with something that you say you don't agree with?"

That would be a good example of you point out where I contradict myself, but you must be more specific and write what I said that was contradictory. I can't analyze your point just with that.

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"person who says they enjoy watching something that has humiliation, Gore, blood everywhere, or whatever, torture, would not like to see actual humiliation, Gore, blood, or torture anywhere in front of him in the real world?"

Oh! ok, that's better ^^". But I never said -> I <- enjoy that, I said many people enjoy that, I'm not included. I don't enjoy that at all.

"How do you know those anime our world that you're actually seen that could be real somewhere else?"

I actually didn't get what you meant here... Like, I don't think they "exist" somewhere else, they KINDA exist only in my head. But I know stuff in my read are not real. But I just don't mind it. So, important part is: its feel real for me (not as much as I like, but still) so... just feeling a little real is enough to me. At least until I find some better option ^^"

"But I'm just asking a question. If these were real places, and you're singing or getting a glimpse into another place where this is actually happening, why would you be interested in indulging in it?"

Now I really don't get you :/ And its possible a problem with communication, Like, English is not my first language ^^" So, what you exactly mean with "indulging in it"?

Do you mean something like, give up everything else and just go to this new world. maybe?

Well, yes I would do that for sure :3 I guess there would be some people who will miss me.. But I'm pretty sure they will be Ok without me. Also, I already say that I'm selfish ^^" They also know that, so I think they wouldn't be surprise by it.

Or maybe you say what would be the "interior meaning" for whishing to do that... And in that case, I would have to discuss how I see the meaning of... everything. And again, if so, just ask, but it will be a big text.

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ImpMontezuma

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Ok, also I think I getting you better now, so you don't want those things to be "normalized", like, you don't want to see more people like me. Well, I in fact support that. I don't think is a good idea for humanity to have more people thinking like me. And I also, think you can "teach" people not to consume hentai or even porn. There is good reasons for not doing it. Like, porn really is a addiction and is not very good for us. I know that. So, yes, you can protest against it. Just don't FORCE people to stop consuming it. So, you can tell then not to, maybe teach them why them shouldn't do it. But try not be soo aggressive and imposing as you are being here ^^". Like, you can share your point of view, you can say why you want people to do something, you can use arguments for that, or maybe just opinions. There is nothing wrong with it. AND if you convince other people to not consume hentai. Good :) . But for me :/ Well, I'm already soo deep in it, that I don't want to go out anymore :3 Like, that already change me, you have to convince people not to do it BEFORE these stuff change them. Because after that, as I said, they won't want to change anymore, and if they don't want to change, you can't force them to do it. That's how I see those things.

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And I guess someone could say that I'm contradicting myself now, because I said before that hentai don't harm anyone, and I said now that hentai is not a good thing. Well, in fact I didn't contradict myself, both things are right, But is based on a "complex though" ^^"
So, hentai doesn't harm OTHER people. like people who don't consume hentai. Not direct at least. And I don't think is fair for us to judge effects of "indirect harms" since... Everything have indirect effects that will eventually cause some harm in someone. So, using this to "ban" hentai would be just a way of using a double standard to get what YOU want.
And I say that hentai is not good for people who watch it, just because it will make that person life harder, in many ways in fact ^^". But making it harder doesn't mean it will make that person unhappy. So... I guess no one want to have a harder life, right? SO... it makes sense to "warn" them against it. But again do it before they go deep in it.

Well, sex IS pleasure. Pleasure AND reproduction. I do imagine myself having children with my imaginary wife... Even because, why not? XD
And I already said what I think true love is. Just read again that part.

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And again about me not liking women ¬¬". Ok, I'll try to explain this better. You know what it the thing I don't like real women (and people)? Is that, they don't want to do the same thing I want. And I KNOW this sounds childish (well, kinda is, in a sense) But, I just can "tolerate" other people close to me, if they are "sync" with the things I want to do.
And even if we try harder to do things the other want, in the end is pointless because we are doing it without the will to do it... So is, kinda torturing yourself a little, to please the other. So anyway, yes, is impossible for two people to have that level of harmony in their internal wishs in the real world. Of course I know that. And again thats why I don't like the real world!.. And to be clear. I didn't said I hate the real world, I just not like it THAT much. As a, this word is Ok. Its nice to live here and everything. But I know one that is better, the one in my head :3

Also, there are lots of physical characteristics that I don't like in real people. But I won't bother you with those kinda of details.

And finally I don't have and never will have a daughter, so I'm not worry about those things. But I guess that's obvious at this point.

^^" Well.. that was a huge text... Especially considering that I don't think anyone will read it ¬¬" I think I just talk about myself here... But it was fun, and if you do read it, I'm still in to keep discussing those stuff.

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Ok, just to take this out of my chest, I read again what you said early (the part I said I didn't understand you) And I think I got it now. So, you think things like torture and humiliation are happening somewhere else in the REAL world. And yes, they are, that's why we know that exist, because somewhere at some point that happened. But... Tell me something, what hentai have to do with it? Like Ok, hentai are REPRODUCING it, but it doing this in fantasy set, so its not contributing to that in the real world. And I imagine that you will say that the people who see these things are going to be influenced to do the same, right? Yeah, that's a common misconception. And I already talked about it. This is something that I, with my + 20 years of watching hentai, I have NEVER seen happening. Like, I never saw anyone trying to "reproduce" in real life something they saw in a hentai. So, I just don't believe your claim. I think people with health minds know how to differentiate fantasy from reality, and the fact that they like to see or even imagine themselves doing these things, doesn't mean that they will try to do the same with someone in real life. Even because everyone knows that in real life, things wouldn't happen in the same way as in a hentai.

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Anyway, the next part that you talk about "indulge in it" I imagine it is the same. Anyway, no I don't "indulge in it" I don't agree with anything that could be done against a person's will. And I imagine that people don't like to be tortured and humiliated, right? So, If the person don't want that, then I automatically won't agree with that.

And about the influences it has in real life. Well, I already talked about this a lot. But there is another detail that comes to mind. Have you ever looked for statistics about what happens in places where people consume more pornography? Well, studies show that when people watch more porn, sex crimes DECREASES. That's right. And there is an excellent reason for that. As I said, porn is an addiction. So by watching porn you are training your brain to want more of it. Well then, people who watch a lot of porn will want to have more PORN, not more SEX itself. Then, those people who are addicted to pornography who without it, would commit a crime, end up losing interest in real sex and instead of that will keep watching pornography, understand? Anyway, losing interest in real sex because of pornography is exactly my case, so I am living proof that this effect is real.

OK, now I'm really finished XD

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Girls, Why some of you (specially otakus) like to see guys (mostly in anime I guess) in a homossexual relationship?

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