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"It's not uncommon for men with low testosterone to experience significant mood swings. When testosterone levels are low and cortisol levels are comparably high, resulting behaviors can include anger, hostility, anxiety, and overall irritability." - a quick google search
So being agressive, stubborn etc. ain't masculine traits according to my sources. Low testosterone even makes you agressive.
I do believe that toxic masculinity and toxic feminity exist but these traits are not definitely toxic masculine traits. This is how some women feel on their periods lol. Any man who hate such women did not have a girlfriend. I am joking but you can see these traits more in women.
"Premenstrual syndrome (PMS) affects a high percentage of women of childbearing age, with many women feeling mood changes in the days before menstruation. And while menstrual symptoms like irritability, anger, and mood swings are a monthly bother for most women, severe PMS can be emotionally debilitating for some." -another quick google search"It is thought that hormonal changes in the menstrual cycle (fluctuations in estrogen and progesterone levels) affect the mood of women and trigger negative emotions such as anger and irritability."- google search
So these so called masculine women are actually hyper feminine aka have toxic feminine traits.
If you mean tomboys. Nothing wrong with being a tomboy
The last two, stubborn and have to have their way all the time, are not traits of one gender more than other. But aggressive and dominant - yeah I really dislike people like that. I won't be around them, unless absolutely forced to be by circumstance. Doesn't matter what gender they are, they're pretty intolerable.
I think both guys and girls can be that way, and that's a combination of temperament and the way we grew up. I don't think it's ever healthy for anyone to try and be hyper masculine as per your definition, whether it's a girl or a guy. Since we're focusing on girls, often times girls can be like that cause of a bad past with men (whether in relationships, or family, or whatever), and rightfully so. I think it's great that they've reacted to their environment and stood up for themselves. I feel bad though that they had to do that to survive/thrive in their environment. An example of such an environment is parents that value boys more than girls. They will react more positively to 'masculine' traits thus encouraging them in their children. There's endless and situations of course, this is just one.
But sometimes it's a woman just being assertive and that being mistaken for being hyper-masculine. Actually I shouldn't say 'mistaken', because often it's just other guys feeling their masculinity being threatened because 'a girl shouldn't be that assertive,' so they're not really mistaking anything there.
I don't like people who are dominant and aggressive. I rebel against people who try to boss me. I will not be dominated. And people who are aggressive can fuck right off.
Confidence and assertiveness are different. I can totally respect that as long as it's not closed minded and domineering. It's possible to be confident and assertive while still being inclusive and open to other ideas.
Stubborn? Yeah, that can be aggravating at times, but I can respect it.
Stubborn just means that someone tries to use their own brain, has self confidence, doesn't automatically take orders. That describes me, so I can't fault a woman who is the same way.
My wife is as stubborn as a mule.
When I think of hyper-masculine women, though, also picture women who look masculine in their hair style, choice of clothes, mannerisms, the way they walk and carry themselves, their tones of voice.
All I can say is "Ewwwww", not my cup o' tea. They can go find a submissive girlfriend.
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That's not really masculine as much as it is aggressive. Masculinity does not have to be defined in negative ways, both it and femininity are mostly positive.
These are the women who give obvious signs that they are fragile and insanely insecure in embracing their feminine side (their biological side that is). It's obvious that they care very much what the world thinks and thus want to "rebel" by acting and dressing like men. These type of women are lost.
What I feel about them is both pity and I find them laughable. Everytime I encounter one, I can tell she is insecure and is desperately adopting the "fake it till you make it" principle. They know they will never be like men, but they try nonetheless lmfao
Lol. Your update described a lot of non-masculine women smh.
What do I think of hyper-masculine women? Well I don't particularly think about them. If I do its usually a mental note to keep my girlfriend away from her. Last thing I need is to get replaced by a dude with no actual penis and the detachable one is way bigger and doesn't cum too quick, have any problem getting and staying hard or the perfect length/strength and isn't able to shoot cum in her face thinking its 'hot as fuck' lol
By hyper-masculine women, I assume you mean modern-day feminists or women that have taken the worst aspects of feminism to heart. You probably know what I'm talking about. Those people, I do not like.
They go on and on and on about "toxic masculinity", while embodying the worst parts of masculinity themselves. Hyperaggression, lack of concern for physical appearance--a lot of feminists being obese land whales with either candy cotton colored hair or very short hair--abusive language, et cetera.
How ironic that they call masculinity in men toxic, and yet applaud themselves and shitty female characters for embodying those same masculine traits.
> To clarify- hyper masculine being very aggressive, dominant, stubborn or the ones that have to have their way all the time.
I was initially going to answer something else but this is not "hyper masculine" this is what normal people call an "asshole". And i dont like them.
Oh so stubbornness and being dominant are 'masculine traits'? Gett rid of this delusion.
That's a STRONG WOMAN. Just because she is not a female simp, it doesn't makes her masculine. She simply got self respect and is independent and bossy to lead the life.
Those traits are not masculine.
You are saying that women should be weak, submissive, appeaser and just sit there calmly?
I’m Dominant and stubborn, amongst many other things. I’m also a quiet introvert. I am simply a strong woman, and so I should be at my age!
What’s with the photos of butch women? That’s a while new subject and nothing to do with being aggressive it masculine!
I came here for the dumb male comments and wasn’t disappointed 😆
Lots of fragile males threatened by masc women, I’m laughing 😂
Thank you, incels, you’ve provided me with entertainment
I don't like that at all. There's a difference between being assertive and aggressive. Being assertive is fine but being aggressive is a turn off. Those personality traits are unattractive in either gender. I'm not sure being dominant is a bad thing but being very aggressive, stubborn, or having to have it your way all the time are definitely turn offs
So only men can be aggressive and assertive? 🤦🏽♀️ Genders a social construct, no one should care how another person acts as long as the other person isn’t harming them
Aggressive, dominant, stubborn and having to have your way are NOT MASCULINE TRAITS. Those traits dont make a man manly or a woman masculine, they just make you an asshole if you act like that all the time weither your a man or woman.
I am not a fan of traits such as "very aggressive, dominant, stubborn" in either sex and yes non-hyper masculine women can embody such traits as well. In general I don't like those traits because if pushed I'm going to push back. My fight or flight response has always been fight. People that body such traits tend to want to push those around them at some point and when the pushing starts things can really.
Disgusting. A mild tomboy that still knows her place, I don't mind. She's usually more versatile than a girly girl. But I don't want a He-Woman It-Thing. Nor a psycho bitch who models herself after the worst attributes of the worst of men as a symbol of ascendence. It's embarrassing enough to see that idolized in video games, or in cartoons by Kevin Smith after too much soy. But a woman who sees that in real life and says: "This is the way"?
No, gal. Dat iz not de wae.
Avoid them. They are not worth the time for a glance. Me not being into men makes it even easier.
If they are heterosexual (usually they are not) then they have to be good at sex. And I mean exceptionally good. Not to mention they need to physically attractive also; not manly in the face nor upper body. I. e. muscular neck, shoulders, arms and (eghk!) six or eight pack abs are all a NO-Go. (God, abs on a woman are soooooooo gross)
They got their DNA scrambled somewhere along the way and have traits of both male and female, but got a bigger share of testosterone than estrogen. And in case someone had no clue, both males and females get doses of testosterone.
They're weird and creepy. They should just stay the hell away from me.
No, it's a dude in a woman's body. They will be competitive, hard to deal with and uncompromising. The worse kind of partner you can have, unless you're a wimpy sub man.
I look so feminine but I am aggressive and dominant. No matter what I do it shines out of me. Now I’m looking to become the boss and start my own company where being “bossy” and pretty dominant is valuable. The lesson is that there’s a right environment for everyone, but you gotta find it and add value there. Hence, “aggressive” and/or dominant is not a negative characteristic unless you’re in the wrong environment/people who can’t celebrate it.
I don't have a strong opinion for or against them. Like the other temperaments, they have their perceived strong points & weaknesses.
Boring AF. Hope they like cats, cuz no man worth his salt wants that for a partner. EVER.
The fact is, the more a woman tries to be like a man, the less desirable she is to them.
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