"It's not uncommon for men with low testosterone to experience significant mood swings. When testosterone levels are low and cortisol levels are comparably high, resulting behaviors can include anger, hostility, anxiety, and overall irritability." - a quick google search
So being agressive, stubborn etc. ain't masculine traits according to my sources. Low testosterone even makes you agressive.
I do believe that toxic masculinity and toxic feminity exist but these traits are not definitely toxic masculine traits. This is how some women feel on their periods lol. Any man who hate such women did not have a girlfriend. I am joking but you can see these traits more in women.
"Premenstrual syndrome (PMS) affects a high percentage of women of childbearing age, with many women feeling mood changes in the days before menstruation. And while menstrual symptoms like irritability, anger, and mood swings are a monthly bother for most women, severe PMS can be emotionally debilitating for some." -another quick google search"It is thought that hormonal changes in the menstrual cycle (fluctuations in estrogen and progesterone levels) affect the mood of women and trigger negative emotions such as anger and irritability."- google search
So these so called masculine women are actually hyper feminine aka have toxic feminine traits.
If you mean tomboys. Nothing wrong with being a tomboy
Omg so many idiotic guys in the commentsection for shaming women for being women loool. Again these traits ain't hyper masculine as i explained. It is the opposite, i would say
As we see it is normal that many women have such traits during their period. These idiots literally hating on fertile women. I personally dont feel anything during period but i have irregular too long periods
You hit the nail on the head with this one
The last two, stubborn and have to have their way all the time, are not traits of one gender more than other. But aggressive and dominant - yeah I really dislike people like that. I won't be around them, unless absolutely forced to be by circumstance. Doesn't matter what gender they are, they're pretty intolerable.
I don't particularly mind aggressive or dominant people as much as I mind the ones who are jerks about it. For example, I deal with a lot of social anxiety especially in person around new people. I've really come to rely on my wife and her dominant personality to drive the conversation and just take control so I am not hyperventilating the whole time.
Also, she is AMAZING at getting our cable/cell company to fix things when they are broken. While I'm nice and try to work things out with people, if they get to a point where they are just shutting me down for my passivity, my wife jumps in and suddenly things get done. She isn't a jerk, but she isn't going to just roll over on it either.
It really does have it's place at times, again, if they aren't being rude or anything.
@Ez-Bri-Z lol. Well I'd characterize all of the traits that Shadez listed as being unpleasant to be around. But that's me.
I am your wife, in my marriage. I hate doing it. I wish my husband would sometimes be that guy, but alas, no. With him, we will pay more, get fewer refunds and warranty exchanges, people make less effort, etc etc. His solutions are 1. Pay more, and 2. Walk away, and 3. Let them make an absolute mess and we'll have to spend our time to fix it. They all drive me nuts. So I take over. And he walks away, leaves the room, comes back when it's over.
Isn't marriage fun!
Lol marriage is amazing. The way we do it is this:
You get a chance to negotiate with Bri. If you fail to work out some sort of agreement, then you get my wife and we are going to get everything we asked for.
Oddly enough, the ONLY place where this is reversed is when buying a car. I'm so meticulous about research, watching my credit, and being pretty tight with money that when I go into a dealership I'm not walking away without most of the things I want and I have ZERO problem walking away and shopping somewhere else. I have no brand loyalty. I can't even tell you the name brand of the car I currently own. When it comes time to buy though, I may as well have built the thing myself lmao.
@Ez-Bri-Z hahahaha. I love it.
Negotiating car prices sucks big time. (My husband is barely tougher on that, but since it's thousands, he is a bit.)
We got killer deals on the last two cars though. Bought at the end of Dec., last few days. It was factory-preowned, low mileage. About half off the new price. And another time, we knew someone who was the fleet manager, so that was getting close to their cost.
My wife is one of those who always has to have a brand new car. I'm just like, "we haven't paid this one off yet though."
So everytime we have gone, I have always had them eat the cost of what was left due for the car we were selling them (it was never ridiculous, like maybe a year or 18 months left). I have always had our warranties extend past our final payments dates. I have always remained firm on how much I'd pay a month and have never gone outside $50 of that range (and while I'm very good at negotiating, I'm not starting with unreasonable numbers either.)
Now if something goes wrong with the car itself, my wife is on her own. I can barely tell you where the gas goes.
I think both guys and girls can be that way, and that's a combination of temperament and the way we grew up. I don't think it's ever healthy for anyone to try and be hyper masculine as per your definition, whether it's a girl or a guy. Since we're focusing on girls, often times girls can be like that cause of a bad past with men (whether in relationships, or family, or whatever), and rightfully so. I think it's great that they've reacted to their environment and stood up for themselves. I feel bad though that they had to do that to survive/thrive in their environment. An example of such an environment is parents that value boys more than girls. They will react more positively to 'masculine' traits thus encouraging them in their children. There's endless and situations of course, this is just one.
But sometimes it's a woman just being assertive and that being mistaken for being hyper-masculine. Actually I shouldn't say 'mistaken', because often it's just other guys feeling their masculinity being threatened because 'a girl shouldn't be that assertive,' so they're not really mistaking anything there.
I don't like people who are dominant and aggressive. I rebel against people who try to boss me. I will not be dominated. And people who are aggressive can fuck right off.
Confidence and assertiveness are different. I can totally respect that as long as it's not closed minded and domineering. It's possible to be confident and assertive while still being inclusive and open to other ideas.
Stubborn? Yeah, that can be aggravating at times, but I can respect it.
Stubborn just means that someone tries to use their own brain, has self confidence, doesn't automatically take orders. That describes me, so I can't fault a woman who is the same way.
My wife is as stubborn as a mule.
When I think of hyper-masculine women, though, also picture women who look masculine in their hair style, choice of clothes, mannerisms, the way they walk and carry themselves, their tones of voice.
All I can say is "Ewwwww", not my cup o' tea. They can go find a submissive girlfriend.
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That's not really masculine as much as it is aggressive. Masculinity does not have to be defined in negative ways, both it and femininity are mostly positive.
sum hoe got butthurt
These are the women who give obvious signs that they are fragile and insanely insecure in embracing their feminine side (their biological side that is). It's obvious that they care very much what the world thinks and thus want to "rebel" by acting and dressing like men. These type of women are lost.
What I feel about them is both pity and I find them laughable. Everytime I encounter one, I can tell she is insecure and is desperately adopting the "fake it till you make it" principle. They know they will never be like men, but they try nonetheless lmfao
@Inbox Emphasis on "strong"😂. I swear everytime I stand next to one of those "strong women", just by my presence alone I can make them feel emasculated. And I don't need to have one anything other than being born a man 😂😂
@NightHawk99 Since the other snowflake blocked me and then removed her account, I'll guess I'll reply here. So anyone referring to psychological terms is a "republican". So that's your way of thinking. Lmfao I've seen it all. I bet you could also tell me for whom I voted. Gooes to show how you got rekt in your own Take and still act like you're the one who is "laughing" at others. Keep deluding yourself 😂
Like I said, I don't care where you align. You act like a republican so here I am. Keep talking to me about how I got rekt by desperate snowflakes please. It's entertaining.
What's wrong with LGBT folks? ;)
@NightHawk99 You seem to care a lot to bring that red herring into the argument under that other comment section. Not to forget to mention you seem to care enough to write two entire rants about democrats and republicants, despite claiming not to care at all. And that's coming from someone who runs around calling people "snowflakes". Lmfao. Your actions don't back up your words. Stick to your red herrings and ad hominems, seems like that's the best thing you can do. The only issue I have with LGBT folks is when they shove their ideals down people's throats. I have no issues with those who are just living their life for themselves. I know several beautiful LGBT members pretty much keep to themselves and respect all others outside. But I hope I didn't hurt your feelz in this regard <3.
@TruthBringer yOu SeEm tO cArE EnOuGh tO wRiTe rAnTs
Awwww getting mad over my questions poking at democrats and republicans now? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 The whole intention of those questions was to piss off guys like you. And with you bringing exactly that up, you gave me exactly what I wanted.
My feelings aren't hurt by any snowflake on this app. But clearly my rants bother the fuck out of you. Sorry I offended you child. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@TruthBringer Please, tell me you're not offended by my rAnTs. I find it entertaining when idiots like you lie to themselves.
@NightHawk99 I didn't even read your rants, but you assume anyone who doesn't share your opinions is somehow a "republican". You're obviously no better than the extreme right, left and the feminazis putting labels on people for even the slightest disagreement. But by all means, continue to amuse G@G trolling because you don't have anything going on in your life and lack attention. Thanks for at least acknowledging you're a troll so I don't have to waste more time on you 😂😂
Lol. Your update described a lot of non-masculine women smh.
What do I think of hyper-masculine women? Well I don't particularly think about them. If I do its usually a mental note to keep my girlfriend away from her. Last thing I need is to get replaced by a dude with no actual penis and the detachable one is way bigger and doesn't cum too quick, have any problem getting and staying hard or the perfect length/strength and isn't able to shoot cum in her face thinking its 'hot as fuck' lol
By hyper-masculine women, I assume you mean modern-day feminists or women that have taken the worst aspects of feminism to heart. You probably know what I'm talking about. Those people, I do not like.
They go on and on and on about "toxic masculinity", while embodying the worst parts of masculinity themselves. Hyperaggression, lack of concern for physical appearance--a lot of feminists being obese land whales with either candy cotton colored hair or very short hair--abusive language, et cetera.
How ironic that they call masculinity in men toxic, and yet applaud themselves and shitty female characters for embodying those same masculine traits.
@ShadezMcgee And in the context of your update, I'm not a fan of hyper-masculine women. As I've said in some of my previous questions, I do find aggression an attractive trait in women, but not to the point where they are violent or breaking the law.
And I still see a lot of women who follow third-wave feminism as overly domineering. While I do find dominance in women attractive, I'm not a simp or doormat. I respect a woman who's dominant, if she is a good leader. Thankfully, my friend's sister is just that toward her siblings and me. The worst her brother and I get from her is light, playful teasing.
Spot on mate! Quite ironic isn't it that they adopt the very traits they consider "toxic" from the start
@TomGarand You become what you hate as they say.
> To clarify- hyper masculine being very aggressive, dominant, stubborn or the ones that have to have their way all the time.
I was initially going to answer something else but this is not "hyper masculine" this is what normal people call an "asshole". And i dont like them.
Oh so stubbornness and being dominant are 'masculine traits'? Gett rid of this delusion.
That's a STRONG WOMAN. Just because she is not a female simp, it doesn't makes her masculine. She simply got self respect and is independent and bossy to lead the life.
Those traits are not masculine.
You are saying that women should be weak, submissive, appeaser and just sit there calmly?
I’m Dominant and stubborn, amongst many other things. I’m also a quiet introvert. I am simply a strong woman, and so I should be at my age!
What’s with the photos of butch women? That’s a while new subject and nothing to do with being aggressive it masculine!
I came here for the dumb male comments and wasn’t disappointed 😆
Lots of fragile males threatened by masc women, I’m laughing 😂
Thank you, incels, you’ve provided me with entertainment
Awww, Jfranco, so sorry to hurt your fragile feelings 😆
😂 omg, I’m blatantly trolling you and you’re crawling back for more. I love it. Enjoy your celibacy
You may even have the last word, big daddy franco…lol
@darklillysub. Right, we are "threatened" by women who are confused about their gender identity.
You did get us but hey, no need to go laughing at those of us who felt their masculinity threatened. A lot of dudes will feel their masculinity threatened but they're not always bad guys y'know. Though admittedly from experience, a lot hella fuckin are. The playful side of me says Good Troll though lmao.
Every comment just feeds me more. I love it! To clarify, I’m a troglodyte, lol. Never been called an incel by an actual incel (writes down in achievement notebook).
“Wow, this question really blew up. Thanks for the responses everybody. They have been fairly interesting to see.”
No sh*t it blew up, cause a question involving women acting outside cis-het male expectations. All the men better hurry up and have an opinion. Also, your pictures have nothing to do with your question. How women wish to present themselves and how women act are different things and are constantly policed by incel, insecure, thirsty men.
Let the hate comments flow after this, they’ll only satisfy my point…I probably won’t read them, anyway.
@darklillysub. When a female calls a man an "incel" it is really the worst thing she can think of to call him. What females like you don't realize is that calling men "incels" (unable to have sex with women) implies that the only thing of value women have to offer is sex. Which, I guess is true, with modern women.
Guys ignore, let the dog bark.
@SHREYASH007 Yeah, dog she is.
@darklillysub The obese 31 year old with a choker can't seem to distinguish being "Threatened" by being repulsed. And just as @Jfranco12 said, anyone who seems to share another view that is different than yours is all of a sudden an "incel". Oh the lack of intellect is amusing. Come on you can do better than that. I can give you a lesson about trolling if you like. But thanks for giving us a good laugh aanyway 😂
@KrakenAttackin I swear these 'wahmen' are so predictable. Talking shit about incels while at the same time validating everything they say. And judging from the way she looks, it does seem that she can only give sex. But then again, I wonder who the retard is wanting to get a piece of that🤢🤢 😂😂
I'm sorry you think that way.
@TruthBringer Bingo!
Are you the feminazi that keeps rating down every opinion made by a male in this comments section? 😂😂😂
I don't like that at all. There's a difference between being assertive and aggressive. Being assertive is fine but being aggressive is a turn off. Those personality traits are unattractive in either gender. I'm not sure being dominant is a bad thing but being very aggressive, stubborn, or having to have it your way all the time are definitely turn offs
So only men can be aggressive and assertive? 🤦🏽♀️ Genders a social construct, no one should care how another person acts as long as the other person isn’t harming them
Gender is gender
Are you?
LOL you need some help
Okay, child.
I'm from a (Warrior nation) of Apia Samoa and Hawaii. We love strong healthy women as we men are as well. Makes us men even stronger. Don't worry about those weak Americans doopayo. I know , I know they always come out here and get stupid then visit our hospitals before running home.
@doopayo You shouldn’t thank him. He’s sort of being a pedo!!
Have some respect little girl
Undercover*
Pedophipe, she IS a little girl but not to you, because you’re a pedophile
Aggressive, dominant, stubborn and having to have your way are NOT MASCULINE TRAITS. Those traits dont make a man manly or a woman masculine, they just make you an asshole if you act like that all the time weither your a man or woman.
If you look closely in the comments a bunch of feminazis have been rating down every opinion made by a male. Shows that even the ones that aren't tomboys are stubborn. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I am not a fan of traits such as "very aggressive, dominant, stubborn" in either sex and yes non-hyper masculine women can embody such traits as well. In general I don't like those traits because if pushed I'm going to push back. My fight or flight response has always been fight. People that body such traits tend to want to push those around them at some point and when the pushing starts things can really.
Disgusting. A mild tomboy that still knows her place, I don't mind. She's usually more versatile than a girly girl. But I don't want a He-Woman It-Thing. Nor a psycho bitch who models herself after the worst attributes of the worst of men as a symbol of ascendence. It's embarrassing enough to see that idolized in video games, or in cartoons by Kevin Smith after too much soy. But a woman who sees that in real life and says: "This is the way"?
No, gal. Dat iz not de wae.
Avoid them. They are not worth the time for a glance. Me not being into men makes it even easier.
If they are heterosexual (usually they are not) then they have to be good at sex. And I mean exceptionally good. Not to mention they need to physically attractive also; not manly in the face nor upper body. I. e. muscular neck, shoulders, arms and (eghk!) six or eight pack abs are all a NO-Go. (God, abs on a woman are soooooooo gross)
Hey, down check if you want. But hard abs on a woman is disgusting. Don't blame be because you're lonely and don't know how to moderate your workout, and overdo everything. Using your lack of coping skills to motivate you into being Block-of-Wood Gym-Rat Chick.
They got their DNA scrambled somewhere along the way and have traits of both male and female, but got a bigger share of testosterone than estrogen. And in case someone had no clue, both males and females get doses of testosterone.
They're weird and creepy. They should just stay the hell away from me.
No, it's a dude in a woman's body. They will be competitive, hard to deal with and uncompromising. The worse kind of partner you can have, unless you're a wimpy sub man.
I look so feminine but I am aggressive and dominant. No matter what I do it shines out of me. Now I’m looking to become the boss and start my own company where being “bossy” and pretty dominant is valuable. The lesson is that there’s a right environment for everyone, but you gotta find it and add value there. Hence, “aggressive” and/or dominant is not a negative characteristic unless you’re in the wrong environment/people who can’t celebrate it.
The feminazis rated your comment down too? What the fuck? 😂😂😂
I don't have a strong opinion for or against them. Like the other temperaments, they have their perceived strong points & weaknesses.
Boring AF. Hope they like cats, cuz no man worth his salt wants that for a partner. EVER.
The fact is, the more a woman tries to be like a man, the less desirable she is to them.
I mean I don't really give a shit. Do what. you want.
Unless they want to date me. In which case I'm not interested, it's gross.
In what way? I wouldn’t date one if that’s what you’re asking. If I was attracted to male qualities I’d probably just date another guy.
Wow, the comments here are crazy. The fact that some of you are so threatened by masculine women is kind of laughable.
The fact people like yourself can't distinguish being turned off from being "threatened" is kinf kin of- wait no IS laughable. Cognitive dissonance at it's finest. But do please stuck to your delusion
@TruthBringer I mean, I wasn't really talking about those comments, but go off.
A lot of people will see "the comments" and assume you mean ALL comments. I don't know what it is, but people will always assume that. Ik you don't mean ALL comments though, as should be common sense.
These are just some random people's opinion and people are taking seriously.
@oceation Then what comments were you referring to? The majority of comments speak of repulsion, so it's common sense that you're talking about the general comment/opinion since yours lacks being specific.
Masculine women aren't scary.
Stupid women however... Are fucking terrifying...
Lol no one is scared of masculine women, just we men think that maybe those masculine women have now also grown a dick that is worth the worry.
@TruthBringer Being repulsed by masculine women is stupid. It's fine if you aren't attracted to them, but being repulsed by them is as stupid as being repulsed by feminine men.
@oceation Being repulsed by them is actually a very logical and understandable reaction. An individual who tries their best to be someone or something they are not while shoving their ideals down people's throats is actually very repulsive. This goes beyond attraction. I can keep things professional with such individual, doesn't mean I cannot be repulsed by their fake persona and obvious/visual identity crisis. Afterall, I'm playing the devil's advocate here. But by all means, keep deluding yourself that we men feel "threatened" by these "women". Classic case of projection lmfao.
@TruthBringer How do you know they're not trying to be themselves? Most women are not 100% feminine all the time, lol (and what is considered feminine in the US is not the same as anywhere else). What is masculine and feminine changes from culture to culture, from time period to time period, and majority of people have a mix of masculine and feminine traits. The idea that masculine women are trying to "shove their ideals" down people's throats just by existing tells me more about you than them. Not everyone is gender conforming, that's just how they are.
Generally speaking, these women are actually pretending to be something they are not because toxic feminism or even the LGBT community have deluded them into living such lifestyle. What defines something as masculine and feminine between cultures differs in minor factors, but there are universal traits, behaviors and mentalities that are parrelel across many cultures if not all. The fact many of these women (more often than not happen to be feminists) DO try to shove their ideals down people's throats and make their way into political lobbies. The fact you thinks this reflects on me ironically reflects on you considering you must be living under a rock for not knowing this. Just from certain pink comments here alone, they are obviously jumping to false conclusions due to cognitive dissonance because the majority of comments (and men) happen to have a view that differs than them. Funny enough, that includes you. But like I said, keep deluding yourself, love. Seems like logical fallacies are your thing.
@TruthBringer Ah, I see you're not at all trying to have an honest, good faith conversation. You want to try to label me as some crazy feminist because I don't have the same opinion as you. It's clear to me that you don't like women, I can already tell. You're probably one of those people who's against gay people too. I'd rather not engage in this convo with you anymore, though, to be honest. If you want to talk, you can PM me, but lose the attitude first.
@TruthBringer Stay triggered
@oceation Another case of projection. All because you're incapable to produce a valid counter-argument. Especially after you lost face when your logical fallacies got debunked. Stay mad, little dove. Men dislike "masculine" women. Let that sink in.
@TruthBringer I have counter arguments but you've been combative with me from the start so I have no desire to continue arguing with you. You enjoy pointing out my logical fallacies yet you've used quite a few of your own since you've started replying to me by calling me delusional on your first reply to me. And the "little dove" shit is patronizing as fuck, not at all going to make someone want to continue engaging with you. Thank god you don't represent all men though, lol.
Me telling you to stuck to your delusions is not a logical fallacy. Clearly you don't even know what that means. And once again your hypocrisy is obviously shown considering you're talking about being patronized while you're sitting here accusing and labeling people all kinds of things yourself. You're not making yourself look any more intelligent by acting hypocritical. Once again you have contradiction yourself. All because you're mad that men tend to dislike "masculine" women. Funny enough, I actually represent the majority of men (at least here in the comments). Considering you've also got quite a lot of dislikes and backlash. Women like you make me appreciate my girlfriend more and more. Thanks for that.
@TruthBringer Saying that some commenters here (that's why I said SOME, not all) are threatened by masculine women isn't a delusion. It's a reasonable statement. The fact that you took it so personally is on you. People usually do dislike (or are repulsed) by things they are threatened by. The three feelings are often related. I'm sorry though that I made your fragile ego upset, though.
Once again you've not been specific to whom you are referring to. The majority of comments show repulsiveness towards that which is being asked about. You're obviously trying to take a shot at the people who show their disapproval. Your mental gymnastics don't work here either. You really ought to come up with something better. People aren't stupid as you think. Repulsiveness doesn't have a strong link with being threatened. I may feel threatened in the presence of a tiger when I'm with it in a cage, doesn't mean I'm repulsed by it. Or the time when I swam with sharks, I may feel a tad threatened, but doesn't mean I feel repulsed. Another invalid argument on your end. It's obvious you're getting frustrated because you're met with backlash because you tried to take a cheap shot at people here. "Fragile ego", "woman hater", "feel threatened" Oh please tell us how you're not a feminist and yet sound exactly like one. Please do continue to come with logical fallacies (mostly ad hominems). You really are amusing. Or if you're really sick of having your lack of intellect exposed (which you mostly have yourself to blame for), feel free to use the block button and have the last word like so many snowflakes
Here is Urban dictionary's definition on ad hominem since seem to have a hard time understanding the official definition
@TruthBringer Why do you republicans say the same shit "ohhh can't counterargue" when you didn't even argue to begin with? All you did was bitch moan rant and whine about LGBT folks. 😂 You only revealed you are just as easily offended by stuff as they are.
@NightHawk99 Funny how you assume I'm a republican without any basis. Me challenging her original comment has more to do with making fun of stupiduity and cognitive dissonance than being personally attacked. But then again, what's the point in telling someone who also uses logical fallacies.
@TruthBringer I honestly could give a fuck what side you're on. You're acting like a republican claiming to "make fun of stupidity abd cognitive dissonance" so you get the label. The only stupid, cognitive and dissonant person here bud is you. Now quit your whining. 😂
I like athletic women but I knew some really masculine women that really looked like guys. They were heterosexual but they were not attractive to me.
It’s admirable that they know how to stand up for themselves🙃
I personally don't find them attractive, but I'm all for people expressing themselves however they want.
A dude should be a dude, and a chick should be a chick.
Simples...
What a boring take
@KimmyKimchi Rather be "boring" than to be mentally fucked up by believing I'm something that I'm clearly not (yes I'm talking about those who believe they are a certain gender or sex which they are not). Take your mental toxicity elsewhere.
@ShadezMcgee I would feel hesitant & nervous to interact with hyper-masculine women.
Understandable. Confrontation is never fun.
Would never view them as relationship material because I believe in traditional relationships where each person has a role that compliments the other person's.
Disgusting. Totally unattractive. But im assuming they are lesbians so they might not care what men think. Lol
There's so many snowflake men on here. They're so cute when they act insecure. Okay, Snowflake Men: Start proving you are a snowflake by downvoting my opinion in: 3, 2, 1.⬇️
Beauty is subjective, some people may find them not attractive some might will. Just depends who you ask.
I'm not attracted to them but as people I don't mind them if they are nice.
Love em.
I'm fairly masculine in my personality and tomboyish in my aesthetic.
I find I get along best with women who are in touch with their masculine sides.
I’m not entitled to feel anything about them. They exist and it’s their life.
Just like how i feel about hyper feminine men. On the outside, it may not look like much but the inside i'm cringing to death
I find it unattractive, very unattractive. A girl needs feminine traits in my opinion (masculine women are okay but like don't be overboard like not wearing any makeup or I don't know)
I'm not attracted. I assume that when a woman presents herself that way she wants to discourage advances from men.
They are often tomboys, lesbians, and/or feminists and need hyper feminine men (simps, soyboys, cucks, or whatever else such men are called in the west) around them, not me.
I wouldn’t mind a tomboy, but if they’re going all the way to look like guys, either just because of to kill male gaze, not for me.
I haven't really met anyone like that, but I'd keep my distance from them if I ever happen to meet one
Based upon the description given by the asker
They do them, not my place to say how they life their lives. My preference though, i like masculine women but not hyper-masculine
Usually get along fine. Hooked up with a few. Wouldn't date them. But they can be fun. Just gotta be a guy they won't/can't step on
It's ironic that the most masculine of women are the ones who hate on masculine men the most.
Feminists themselves are the most prolific examples of what they call "toxic masculinity" and "mansplaning".
@ShadezMcgee They barely exist. What you're asking for is to see if anybody has seen a faint image of a concept. All women will typically bend to the group will or cowl themselves away.
Why should I feel anything about them? They exist, let them live, it doesn't affect me at all.
Unattractive. Mean. Ugly. Keep them butches away from me-.-
I think they are ugly and repulsive. the world has come off.
I don't know.. I just know we coexist and that’s pretty much it. I’ve known a few of those and have even been friends with some.
Some of them are still cute, til they start talking. Smh, yuck🤢
These are the kind of women you run into a lot in business and politics. Not my type at all.
They are the type of dimwits that usually try trans into males.
Not attractive as women, but could be good at whatever they do.
I just don't get it. I mean clearly they like pretending to be a man. Most are probably gay. But in a time where it's BECOMING more acceptable to change genders why are the still playing dress up? Why aren't they taking that jump?
You really think someone has to physically change genders because they have traits of the opposite gender?
I'm quite boyish but I'm not gay or trans, nor am I pretending to be a man.
@KimmyKimchi if you're going that full 9 like these fellas in the Pic uh yeah you are. Who are you trying to convince me or you? Look I don't really care if you want to be a guy or not. I don't care whether you get a sex change or not. I just don't get the " make believe" thing. Lol
I don't think you understand that gender roles don't actually mean shit and you can act or dress in any way you like without having to swap gender. It's not the 1950s anymore
@KimmyKimchi 🤣🤣🤣
You the same type of person who thinks men can't be stay at home dad's while the women go to work? Or that women don't belong in the military and men can't be dancers?
sometimes thats hot. Ever see a thing called a dominatrix?
If that's your kink, you do you, bud.
I feel like 'Yo, you want to piece of this? Huh? Huh?'
Mostly Tran men.. I think but I have no problem with them..
I don't care I just don't like the agressive "attitude" you describe, I don't mind women looking or dressing or acting masculine though
They act tough until it comes time to separate them from a real man and then they go back to playing their helpless woman card, my stepsister is one
I find them more repulsing then a pile of horseshit
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