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Do you agree that “women don’t care about your struggles, they wait at the finish line and pick the winners”? (Page 3)
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Yeah but this is exactly why the traditional male approach of not showing (much) emotion & not needing women in order to reach your goals works best.
Ever heard of starter wife? Guys leave women who were there from start because of something natural like ageing and they think that they can do better and get hotter girls and someone with higher status
also heard of high school sweetheart? women who were dating them in the high school
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From the guy standpoint, as he ages and if he acculamates massive wealth, even thousands of years ago in recorded history, a man often had many women.
The Romans even had a system. A wealthy man would have a wife that managed the home. Then he had a group of concubines he put up in homes that he would visit and then a slew of mistresses for quick impromptu visits.
Men have always been able to have recreational sex. This is nothing new. Modern marriage that showed up at the end of the 1800's is actually unnatural to men and women.
Now that men and women are equal, as go with their options. A woman will voluntarily leave to find a better partner just as fast as a guy.
It's almost laughable to think you will only be married once in any situation. Man or woman, your chances of having many partners is almost certain.
@Qdbrown Well firstly the Roman Empire fell for a reason. Many point to the degradation of their society. Monogamous relationships have existed at least for 1,000 years according to historical evidence. Wealth is a human construct. Monogamy has always been there. Men argue that their purpose is to be the protectors of their women and children. However, if a man isn’t loyal he’s evolutionarily worthless. It all seems like selfishness and greed. I’ve heard the argument that men are non-monogamous and women desire to keep one man. Sounds like an idealistic stag delusion. Men and women have equal sex drives. Men feel more “free” to have multiple partners because there’s a societal influence that encourages it. Men are applauded for sleeping around while women are slut shamed. We aren’t like monkeys. If we were then women would desire to live in a harem and not have an issue with the man lusting after other women within the harem. However, back then concubines of rich men were essentially classy prostitutes forced into that situation. Many men also seek out monogamous relationships. I think it’s all down to a difference in character.
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That’s a not true guys don’t care about status even a Dopefiend whore can get married
You do realize over 80 percent of women file for divorce. Women leave their husbands not the other way around.
@cantgetitup 50% of marriages works. And let's say 80% of them end because women file for divorce. It's less than 80%, but let's say 80%. 80% of 50% is 40%. Literally half of what you said.
Don't agree at all.
Literally all my serious girlfriends helped me in way way or the other. And my wife now literally way there for me even when I lost my job.
Good women will be there for you. What you talk about are gold diggers.
There are women like that, and they are to be avoided at all costs.
I always liked the saying "Don't search for a princess that needs to be rescued, search for a queen that fights by your side."
Never uttered by a small, fat and poor guy...
I'm not a white knight but I disagree that "women" don't care about your struggles and only wait for you at the finish line. People in general are like that including myself I don't want to spend time with losers struggling at life, I prefer spending time with people who are better than me people who accomplished what I want to do.
The point is it depends on the person if they're a good person they'll care if not they won't 🤷♂️
It does not apply to all women. I was quite the work in progress when I met my wife. She married me anyway.
I don't worry if you care about my struggles. Just give me snuggles 🤷♀️
They say no but the real thing they are voting for is “stop making me sound like a shallow bitch”
Not all women are like that. I tend to go for broken boys and regret it later when they get confidence and fuck me over.
Wow that really sucks. Most likely though attracted to narcissistic guys and think they will be fixed. But they don’t. Try going for a guy that actually doesn’t have his shit together. Even tho women despise that. There won’t be any attraction. But you can find a really loving and humble guy that way. Without the superficial bullshit. Then learn what having shit together really means.
Nah I’m talking about below average looking losers that no one likes and suddenly when I date them they get attention and confidence. Then they fuck me over and take advantage of me.
I dated 2 guys who like didn’t talk at all and we’re too nervous to make eye contact with me
You’re really pretty. Most guys are really weak minded. Just being honest you are not the average chick. Goodluck I would love to be next but I plan to marry the next one
Yeah I could see that it would be a little intimidating especially for a young man
When a guy is really attracted their brain stops working, they already don’t know how to communicate with women if that’s the case... it takes practice and things that guys don’t get these days. Women that chime in to compete against you are just as much to blame. You’re giving value away. Don’t. Ty for responding
Then ended up as hyper confident douche bags who start screwing me over. What’s better than dating a girl? Having the balls to talk shit about her and slut shame her to “the boys” so you look like a big man… I swear it like escalates so fast. In a matter of months. I’ll give them so much love and attention despite their flaws. They’ll notice how they get attention for dating me. Then it fizzles. So they make up rumours about sleeping with me. Then sexually harassing me in front of their new friends. (Friends being guys I convinced not to bullying them anymore and give them a chance). Then they’d just cheat with a bunch of chicks. Then go to trash me some more.
Yeah I get what you’re saying. This one guy I just wanted to be friends with because I was soooo done with dating. He was the “ugly duckling” so he didn’t get laid but had close friends. He told everyone I was dating him and I didn’t know for ages. Then one day we were on the drinks and he just decided he was going to finger my half conscious body that could not consent. His friend was there and just watched. Next thing I know everyone’s gossiping about how we had sex and I’m a whore. I cut him out of the picture after. He got so mad he just trashed the hell out of me and I started getting threats from his mates.
I reckon the lack of experience combined with a sudden weird entitlement to me causes the issues
I can totally relate to that to be honest. So I feel bad. Especially about the sexual stuff I checked some of your threads. It’s not good. You’re doing well though but that damage is irreparable. However you can do even better. Don’t place so much trust in schooling and this other stuff. Don’t think you’re perfect even though you kind of are. Admit it was a mistake investing in these guys and forgive yourself for losing so much in the process. In the end you will come out with experience and humility to find someone good. I don’t wish for these bad things to happen to you. But they do come looking for the good people. Like sharks to a meal or like flies on shit. Bad people go after the good people and that is why there is so much crap to go around but barely any people like you
Yes this is just the start for you it could get much much worse. Please don’t let it. Be humble and figure out what’s important. It’s so hard to find good work and socialize now. You say you come from a good family. Try to appreciate and honor them as much as possible. I’m
Envious of the eastern woman on here she said in her country a guy in her family goes to get the prospective guy to see if he’s just fooling around. It’s not a bad idea otherwise guys will just hit on you to get laid in public all the time. Dress more formal and go for what you like. You won’t get attention but a mental strength will build that will weed out the weak guys you’re falling for
I guess my mistake was being too off put by successful guys. My friends have been cheated on heaps by them. In my mind confidence in men makes them dominant and entitled to multiple women. My naive mind thought that I could form better relationships with “weaker” men. A lot of the time I felt internal pressure to love them because no one else would.
I said that I come from good “genes” as in height, intelligence, and sporting ability. My dads a horrible man and like borderline insane. He’d beat my mother and I. He’s a narcissist, like diagnosed. My mother just sorta let it happen until the cops got involved. She’s very weak. On antidepressants. I guess I’m scared of ending up with someone like my father.
My dad was always that cocky popular jock guy. I’ve noticed men like that can’t handle the fact they’re not still in highschool.
Those men are not confident. Just full of shit. Don’t play into the game of liking guys that have a girl. A guy that has a girl is no more qualified or attractive or anything than a single guy. It means absolutely nothing. They are just arrogant guys that are manipulating. Don’t be insecure you know what you want and deserve. You might be thinking guys are winners cause they have girls especially pretty ones. Really they are just playing mind games and you are attracted to a loser the same way these other chicks are attracted to your now ex but with higher status loser.
My ex did the same shit to me she ruined my life going on 9 years to me. I did nothing but raise her value for 7 years at my own expense. Now I’m starting to get my power back after two years but she is still doing way better than she should be. Eventually I think it will work itself out. But times are pretty bad right now
Damn. See you have more problems than originally admitted. Good grades, sports and good looks is not everything. And the looks is worth even more. Now that you’ve humbled yourself we see that good things deserve more significance in life. Your dad might not be capable of love but you can show him and everyone else love now including yourself. And that might not seem like much but in reality it is very significant
Same. I struggle a lot with PTSD, anxiety, and depression. It got really bad around the age of 16. The adults in the situation made things sooo bad for me. I was a rowing girl. These guys were from rowing that I was talking about. The coaches and creepy adults started getting all horny about me. Saying I’m “easy” and “slutty”. Those rumours just spread into weird shit to hate on me because some girls were jealous of my attention even if it was negative. Next thing I knew I was prostitute, criminal, slut, and a horrible person. Someone went to my school to complain that I wasn’t rowing I was just fucking guys. Suddenly it was said that I had fucked every guy at rowing (I fucked none). I had the cops called on me for a fake suicide threat. I had parents following me around in my cars and spreading all this crazy shit. Like “so and so’s mom saw Janelle fucking a guy in the bush outside a grocery store”. The stalking drove me insane. I became really popular at this school that I didn’t even go to. I started dating a guy from there who I’m still with. The people there were obsessed with me. Just because of the rumours and my Instagram. I looked older for my age. I had kids taking pictures up my skirt.
My dad jumped on all of it and started saying I’m a whore and I’m a whore because I got raped. I told him to fuck off. He almost beat me to death. Cops got involved. He fled the country.
Janelle this is very disturbing. Just earlier tonight I was thinking about how all the experiences I had of people pickin on me. You’re a good person. Bad people will look to put you down. You make a loser feel bad because you’re so great so they will target you. Keep your chastity, find God because he is giving you a sign that you need to be right and strong now in your own head. Take care and please hit me up in a few years when you are older I will be ready even if you’re not interested romantically I could be a useful friend to have for you. Goodnight and goodluck for now. I’ll see you around here hopefully
My cousin took pictures of me and started a website “selling my nudes” but the nudes weren’t of me. Just because she’s crazy.
His honor was and is damaged from the lies. So many lies going around. The evil ones are targeting you because you are good. You have to fight and be stronger now more than ever
They will keep going for the good ones. They don’t do this to the bad ones like them. You are a threat to their evil ways. Please take me seriously I have been studying this for a long time Janelle. I know what I’m talking about ok?
I’m very concerned for your safety
In future I will give u better contact info if u want. I can help you I promise
That man has warmer cave and more food i go lay next to him
You can solve a lot of problems and understanding if you think back to how we were when we lived in caves
LMAO at that poll. I mean it's sad.. So it's true then. Before seeing the poll i would've said, that some are probably this way, but now i'm not sure about that lol.
The poll doesn't surprise me at all. Most guys ate completely wrong about what women want.
I think that most people want a partner with their this together period...
Very very true statement. I heard this same thing in a few different words coming from the fuckin horse's mouth. I was married to fuckin bitch from Colombia that told me this same thing. Woman are very mercinary.
It's true if a woman doesn't love you for who you are.
Yes, A lot Women think they don't but they do because they don't really hear from the other Guys in the race.
in my opinion it really does feel that way. May not be true but my intuition confirms it. Such as life haha. Just nature really
Women can only do these things if you let them ill just block a woman playing games she can go play this game with the others
Totally - they ALL want to be provided for (by the 50 guys on this planet who can afford it - 48 of whom are already married with children)
I am sure you know...
There is no finish line. Pole position (the object of their affection) can change at the slightest stumble.
I mean fairytale is for children. When they grow up they just want to be practical. But some girls never grow up and they still want their fairytale and they get abused.
America is opportunists’ country and all the other countries are following them.
wow the disconnect. women disagree while most men on here agree