Better? No.
Just as qualified to lead? Absolutely.
I am so tired of seeing this same tired debate about how women lead emotionally and we will start wars just because we are on our period. Men have started every war in history but they get a free pass because they choose to let others bleed instead of themselves?
Maybe empathy is what we need more of in this world not cold logic. Cold logic is what we see a lot of now and it has put the priority into lining the pockets of those in power at the oppression of the rest of us and instead of us fighting back against it, everyone becomes cheerleaders of a team color in politics. It is exhausting to watch so many self described "intellectuals" all fall for the same act from both sides when in the end they are all doing the same thing. Very few are in office to actually make a real difference for others and not themselves.
We need better morality from our leaders, both male and female. Leaders who are just as good with logic as they are with empathy. If it means a better balance of men and women leading then I am all for that.32 Reply- +1 y
@ez-bri-z - ROFL. Empathy? Go live in Saudi or Qatar or better yet Africa. You soft westerners really are ignorant & uneducated about how well off you are compared to others and it makes you rather pathetic.
But do explain what good empathy would do in leadership except run companies and countries into the ground.
s +1 ySo you are advocating for the straight leadership style of not seeing people as people and more of human capital and sheep. I mean, if that is the kind of society you want to live in, by all means go be a sheep. I'd rather be seen as a person by those I elect into positions of power so that I am not callously culled at a whim for their amusement or profit.
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+1 yNo. Women are more emotionally driven & less logic driven than men. In leadership roles logic not emotion is paramount. You can NOT make truly sound decisions on emotion and anyone who says yes you can is an idiot.
Furthermore this emotional aspect is why women are more prone to petty even spiteful behaviour and in leadership roles this is of course extremely detrimental to the team spirit, productivity, etc.
This is why in jobs where logic is vital, such as military or policing, it isn't necessarily the women's physical weakness why they are less numerous than men in such roles. But simply because from a psychological standpoint they're not "cut out" to be military or police. Emotional aspects, including compassion and empathy, serve best in medical roles on the other hand as example and why nurses for years were predominantly female.111 Reply- +1 y
Thank you for pointing out the ugly truth. Now there are always plenty of exceptions to the rule on this. Those unique and rare women will always have my respect. But again they are unique and rare.
That's just feminist propaganda feeding your young brain with ideas that suit their naratives.
Get things done more than men? Since when?
Literally everything you see around you was created by a man both the good and the bad, women complain now but they fail to understand that their ancestors chose to be on the sidelines.
For thousands of years women were happy to go from their father's care to their husband's and have their kids be their only mission in life.
Men had to advance technology, fight wars, discover lands, enforce a law that makes their society safe etc...
So just saying now after thousands of years "yeah women are naturally better at this" where are you getting that information? What is the proof women are better? I keep hearing this but have Literally never seen an example where women were better simply for being women.
Even the countries with women as presidents, these are people who worked hard and bettered themselves to make it to the big office, they can be both good and bad and being a woman in no way affects their performance positively.56 Reply- +1 y
You have so many dislikes because what you say is NOT the truth, not even close. Oh, and I added another dislike myself :)
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"... have literally never seen an example where women were better simply for being women."
Women are (on average, of course) far more compassionate, sane, unafraid to be who they are in the presence of others, nowhere near as violent (who is it who starts the wars and commits the vast majority of violent crimes?), are far more accepting of others and less judgmental, can multitask, have children (yes, I had to include that glaringly obvious one), and, last but not least, really ARE just as good at men in traditionally male roles when given the opportunity.
"Men had to advance technology..." Oh dear, you're an ignorant one. A short list of female mathematicians and scientists.
1. Hypatia
2. Marie Curie
3. Alice Hamilton
4. Rosalind Franklin
5. Mary Leakey
6. Margaret Mead
7. Lise Meitner
8. Barbara McClintock
9. Amalie Noether
10. Beatrice Tinsley
There, a nice round ten, although I could list MANY more if you want me to.
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You're only repeating the stuff I heard a thousand times and was still never proved. And thank you for the dislike it means a lot to know that I'm not catering to the propaganda.
Also the list is not bad and these people did do amazing things but it proves nothing as far as gender is concerned, if you wanna base your assumptions on history then the reality is for each female scientist there are at least 5 men who are as competent and more.
I never said women were NOT good at things, I literally said people are either good or bad at certain things and being a woman doses not boost the good in any way.(Neither does being a man but the question itself was asking if women are better leaders) - +1 y
@ZackBan I highly agree with you. Just as you said, the only reason why you're getting "dislikes" (funny enough all women by the time I made this comment) is because you're speaking an uncomfortable truth. Men are the ones who created the world. And this is something that the feminists dislike to hear and dislike to acknowledge.
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@Rachelspiks Those are NOT female leaders you uneducated twit. Margaret Thatcher would be a good example of a leader
No, women don't make good leaders, in fact they tend to fuck everything up. Firstly women think with their feelz, intuition is an aspect of leadership, but again women think with their feelz on everything. I've witnessed too many women in leadership/management positions try to make EVERYONE happy. They don't understand that you can't make everyone happy. Instead they would have done better had they focused on keeping people on task. Something I've seen when women are in leadership positions is they tend to hire a cadre of toadies to give her "advice" (translation: They tell her how to do her job and if she fucks it up, she can turn to her entourage and blame them for her fucking up rather than accepting responsibility for her low IQ low frequency emotional thinking.)
Ultimately at the jobs I've worked, after upper management would install a woman in a leadership position, invariable they would replace her with a man to pull the company out of an uncontrollable vertical nose dive, get the company back on the flight path, and lead the company to its goals.20 Reply
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735 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. We would need to see a world where governments/institutions/corporations/etc. are largely female-dominated to get a good look at this.
There have been some good women leaders in our world (I think Angela Merkle has been pretty good), but in my personal opinion I do not think women in general are better leaders. Whether they are managers or politicians, they are not often better than male leadership, even when I've hated men in these positions. Some of these women are great, but on average they are not better at leadership than men to me, and they usually have problems with other women that gets in the way of the job.00 Reply741 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. Women don't even like working for women. I think they know better than random men. Even a feminists wouldn't claim that a woman isn't qualified to judge women.
The vast majority of women aren't interested in putting in the work/sweat to be a leader so it doesn't even matter if you can give them a test that shows they would be great at it. I could give you a 10 minute test that says you'd make a good astronaut. Doesn't make you an astronaut. Those few women who want to put in as much time, sweat and stress as men do, rise to the top.
You probably grew up around a lot of weak men... then it seems natural to you that women are better leaders. Those of us who know/grew up around strong men have a different opinion.00 Reply- 2.7K opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic.
u +1 yWhat constitutes a "better leader" necessarily involves some judgments and choices that are quite subjective, so there is no proof that one gender is better than the other. Many people make assumptions on the bass of stereotypes about the genders but those stereotypes pertain to the population at large an not necessarily the subset which has the potential to become leaders. E. g., people assume that women would not engage in warfare nearly as often as men but hose who have looked at that issue have concluded that women were just as prone to warfare as were men.
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+1 yA leader depends on who qualifies to be best suited for the role. Doesn't matter if it's a man or woman, a strong leader can be either one. I've had strong supervisor men and women in my life. A certain kind of personality with certain traits I've noticed are good leaders. They're calm during any situation, especially critical ones. They see the big picture on a grand scale when making decisions. Good public speakers and answer questions honestly with details. They're confident and brave. They take into consideration from other opinions before making a final decision. I can say more but point is, men and women can be great leaders and I've already experienced both in my life.
I'm getting tired of seeing these close minded generalization questions.00 ReplyI'm going to disagree why? Because gender doesn't have anyting to do with how a person get stuff done. You are your own boss.. yes there are men that will say "women can't do this" but I will say if you put your mind into it trust me you will get it done in a effective way..
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I agree with you Ndyaaum
It depends what it is they are leading, this is just my view and I have been burned by both genders, going on my country New Zealand and our leader and a past leader but living in Australia for a little while now, I would have to say yes. I think that woman have a more empathetic nature and in general have their shit together more than us blokes, if all the guys take a second look at who runs the financial part of their relationship and keeps the whole thing going smoothly.. I think that answers a big part of this question.
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+1 yI know a lot of woman who do not deserve the leadership role in a workplace setting, they abuse their power, take things out of perspective and make things personal. Equally male too (for same reasons). This is an individual thing. Leaders need to be able to think neutrally. Both genders are capable, but it takes more than that. So I wouldn’t say either gender is better.
30 Reply586 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. These discussions are usually quite useless unless there's a good study done on the statistics.
"Leaders" is a vague term that's open to interpretation and has many different levels.
Talking about the manager of the local homeless shelter or the president of a country, both require very different skills.
Then there's levels of experience where we could also see differences, compare groups of people that have been in such a position for 1 year, 5 years and 20 years.
Science rarely gives us a straightforward answer, the best you will likely get is "In general, people of this gender fulling this particular position with this amount of experience managed to have a statistical advantage when evaluating them on these success criteria over this amount of time."01 Reply
+1 yIt’s invariably a different style and they often attack problems related to both management and leadership differently,
which is another key point, leadership is not management and management is not leadership (as such).
a lot comes down to style of leadership and motivation used to basically do the leading.11 Reply- +1 y
Some links to stuff.
hbr.org/.../research-women-are-better-leaders-during-a-crisis
www.forbes.com/.../?sh=1acaf29b6c88
www.lcca.org.uk/.../
www.managers.org.uk/.../Women_in_Leadership.pdf
Choosing managers should not be about gender but about capability, the best for the team and company. For the team, it’s about getting the best out of them without haemorrhaging staff because the manager only knows one style of leadership.
A lot of people believe they deserve promoting to a management role due to time in post, however the reality should be capability and how much of an asset they are, this is irrespective of Gender and half a ton of other things including sexuality and ethnic background.
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+1 yBeing a good leader involves being able to acclimate to many contradictory pieces of truth at the same time and being able to remain one step ahead of your employees in terms of intellectual performance and social management as well as maintaining an air of mystery to avoid being locked down or blamed, men are better at this than woman because men are more crafty and observant.
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I think it depends on the person. Not gender.
Going to come down to individuals, but the main difference of reasonable consistence is that female leaders are much easier to address or even get confrontational with from a subordinate position, but they're also more likely to carry a petty grudge.
In my current business, both the best and worst of company leadership are women, while most of the men are at least average.20 Reply
+1 yI don't believe it is in any way gender specific, but individual capacity and capability specific.
If you define a leader as someone who cares for others (as well) and creates/provides/assures they also get (good) opportunities, that historically fits mostly with men, but next to most or even all of those men there also was a strong woman (in the end, leadership a parenting role, only done well by two opposite gender individuals who can get along to that level/work with and for each other and others, not each for themselves in the leaderless greed that has become quite frequent)00 Reply
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yWhy it is accepted on gag to call women weak, bad, terrible, useless, terrible leaders, trash etc. in the commentsection? If a woman call men terrible, trash she is a feminazi but boys-not men- who trashtalk women like this ain't incels/meninazis? What are they then? Now calling people incels who spread womanhate is a feminazi act. So much hypocrisy by incel community on gag
To your question i dont think women/men are better leaders.
Women tend to be passive and so many women ain't interested in being leaders. It does not make women weak if they dont want to be a leader. HOWEVER, if a woman really is interested in being a good leader, she could be. There is no scientific fact that does not allow women to be leaders. If she wants to be, she could be10 Reply
Anonymous(30-35)+1 y"I've seen many studies proving that women are more suited leaders than men."
Really, can you provide links? The only "studies" I've seen claiming women make better leaders have been from feminist organizations or other left-leaning politically biased groups who are pushing an obvious social agenda.
If you want to know who makes the best leaders, look at the people who ARE the best leaders. The real world shows who actually makes good leaders, not politically biased "studies".
By the way, I've seen countless polls showing that men don't care whether their boss is a man or a woman but women DO care, and they prefer male bosses. Female bosses can be brutal to other females. Male bosses tend to be less catty and nasty to work for.10 Reply
+1 yI believe so since we aren’t driven by emotion and anger (with exceptions some women do have anger problems) without all the extra testosterone were able to resolve things peacefully unless we need to use force. Women tend to use their brains instead of their might.
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Then if that is the case then why do you think there are still way more men being leaders? I know you're going to say because they are not oppressed and bulshit, but if you believe you're so strong to be a leader then why don't you take it like a man? Of course all you see is the good life of a leader but you will just ignore their past
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actually it seems estrogen seems to be the one that causes aggression not testosteron at least in mice www.google.com/.../amp
No. Because women usually have less experience of staying cool under stress, being brave and tough, not buckling in to pressure from external forces, and making unpopular decisions based on logic for the good of everyone rather than emotion, they tend to be far worse leaders than men. Not that there aren't good female leaders out there.
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+1 yI wonder about scale. There's a huge difference between the suitable qualities of a squad leader vs. a general. I'm skewed towards the empathetic end of the spectrum, like many girls.
And one of the problems with my leadership abilities in very large teams is that I get too concerned about the well-being of every single team member, and there are too many team members for me to avoid feeling overwhelmed. But I can be decent with a small team.14 Reply- +1 y
I think an empathetic style of leadership works well on a small scale, but on a large scale, a more ruthless style might be necessary sometimes that doesn't look at people so much as risk assessments and numbers.
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Like EQ vs. IQ. I think IQ is better for a general, and EQ for the squad leader.
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There are also different leadership qualities depending on the type of team besides its scale. An unruly team needs a leader that's very assertive and emphasizes discipline to get unruly people back in line. A team that isn't so unruly though doesn't and benefits more from a nurturing style of leadership.
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506 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. Oh it’s aunty Cindy!! :) she’s a better leader than any other leader we have ever had in NZ but we’ve had women before so it’s not her gender that makes her better it’s her ability to put people ahead of politics.
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+1 ySome but generally speaking no. They favor women employees, dismiss any problems with their leadership as men being sexist and confuse being professional with being humorless bitches. I’m not speaking of all women but generally. There are always exceptions.
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+1 y"Many studies" you say, and yet you don't provide the link to a single one.
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+1 yWouldn't we need to have at least a remotely similar number of female leaders in the world to be able to determine that? But the interesting thing is, among the (comparably) few female leaders, there's a much higher percentage of competent ones. Anyway, I think overall it's safe to say that gender shouldn't really be an important factor in determining whether someone's a capable leader or not.
20 ReplyAccording to my new favourite personality test (disc) only 3% of the population is D (ominant), which isn't about bossing over people but solving problems and communicating in a straightforward way. Many people just desire leadership positions because of the perks not because they wanna lead. So as many people in leadership positions don't really belong to there it is very difficult to conduct a survey that answer wich sex makes better leaders.
00 ReplyThere are women who are better than women. Companies or positions aren't just going to be handed to someone because someone is related (e. g. Ivanka Trump). Nope, that someone needs to have their shit together gain people's trust and respect like say Kamala Harris did.
The only thing is, women have had obstacles that have prevented them from taking leadership positions. But the ones that have rose to the top are shining examples.10 Reply
+1 yGood leadership doesn't mean being man or woman. I've seen plenty of bad leaders who are men as well as women, as well as good leaders who are both men and women. Being a leader means being someone who others will look to when problems arise. Guide the people during times of trouble, let them rule themselves any other time.
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+1 yStudies also shows that there are male leaders better than those women leaders and also study shows that there are way more male leaders than female leaders. Studies also show that female leaders act like male leaders. Because it's so easy to abuse the words "studies shows" to make your claims seems more factual.
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Chances also are those female leaders are compared to those clumsy male leaders which doesn't even make up the average of the male leaders
Only alpha women which are incredibly rare and in my dissapointment I've found I end up leading men much more. But overall, it depends on the situation can we stop similifying things so much and look at the raw individual when it comes to job titles?
21 ReplyOf course not. Only in Western countries that have only existed for only a few hundred years would that question even be asked. More enlightened countries that have existed for thousands of years such as Iran, India, and most Asian countries, have learned that women are happiest when ruled by the men of the house or their husbands. Women are ruled by their emotions which makes them poor leaders while men are ruled by logic and as such are much better leaders.
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+1 yWomen can be great leaders. Ever heard of Catherine the Great? She was an amazing leader and visionary. Read a little about her it's just amazing. But, that doesn't make all women better leaders than men.
Ultimately it comes down to the person. Not the gender.10 Reply- 1.4K opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic.
+1 yHaha are you kidding?
Women are to emotionally driven which biased their choices and drives their decisions.
They do not posses the mental strength to be leaders.
Yes you will find feminist driven biased “studies” and gynocentric media pushing this girl power nonsense00 Reply Depends on the field, each gender has its strengths and weaknesses, and to think otherwise is foolish. Additionally, nobody seems to believe you about these "studies" you're referencing. I get the feeling this is a troll post...
10 ReplyNo!
Women still lack what I consider to be the most important aspect to a leader. That is to "lead by example".
Women don't fight wars, don't (usually) occupy jobs that put their lives in danger, don't work at expense to their health for other peoples betterment.
A woman who does would have my vote.00 ReplyDepends on the women but in general no, Women tend to act on emotion men tend to act on logic and reason. This doesn’t mean men don’t always react on logic and reason but where more likely to take that approach when it comes to making decisions
10 ReplyI think its really different from one person to another
some women are better leaders in some fields.. some men are better leaders in other leaders
I think it depends on the person, not on the gender20 Reply
+1 ywell people who defend and are masculininists, will always argue and say that men are built or natural born leaders or are supposed to be leaders, i never liked that, however, some people say thats because for the past couple of decades or more, they say or think that guys, men, have been socialized out of leadership behavior starting in their childhood
00 ReplySex doesn't really dictate whether somebody will be a good leader or not but if I had to say. . .
Id say we haven't had enough female leaders to tell B)10 Reply
+1 yWomen are better because they have a better head on their shoulders. Women tend to use their calm behavior to solve a problem. woman would be less intent on going to war and they would have a better understanding of many things guys just do not or can not.
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+1 yI believe there was a little study done where women were shown to be better leaders in times of crisis
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@Smashingdoozy yes there have been a few.
In the military we do command courses where you learn the skills required to lead, command and manage personnel. With certain situations those syndicates (teams) with a female lead manage tasks better.
I promoted 2 women to management roles and both are really doing well. - +1 y
Weird that 3 women have downvoted this patriarchy runs deep in these
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@Smashingdoozy apologies, you may have picked up some of my trolls lol.
Yeah ‘pinks’ down voting their own gender…. - +1 y
@ChrisMaster69 Actually, I was one of the "trolls" who downvoted this particular comment simply because when one makes a claim like, " there was a little study done" that shows women to be better leaders, well... it might be a good idea to name that study, or provide a link, or ANYTHING so that we can all check it.
You know how fussy I am with things like this Chris, and Ms. Doozy, it isn't always "the patriarchy" that is at fault when things go wrong. Simple human nature, being as hopelessly flawed as it is, can account for many more injustices in the world today. Not everything is systemic in origin. - +1 y
@Rachelspiks
hbr.org/.../research-women-are-better-leaders-during-a-crisis
As I failed a bit with asking Google stuff for now.
I don’t really need a study but will put stuff up.
content.wisestep.com/male-vs-female-leadership/
I’ve seen this over like 10 years ish
Read the bit on Problem Solving.
Brains wired differently. - +1 y
@ChrisMaster69 Well, now that's what I've been looking for :)
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@ChrisMaster69 Hey, aren't you supposed to be in bed?
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@Rachelspiks yes I should be lol.
Pillows pillows - +1 y
@ChrisMaster69 From the first linked study:
"To better understand what was driving the difference in engagement levels, we looked at the competencies that direct reports ranked as most important during the crisis. Notably, respondents put greater importance on interpersonal skills, such as “inspires and motivates,” “communicates powerfully,” “collaboration/teamwork,” and “relationship building,” all of which women were rated higher on. Our analysis echoes what the researchers found in the study mentioned above about U. S. governors: that female leaders expressed more awareness of fears that followers might be feeling, concern for wellbeing, and confidence in their plans."
It makes sense that people who are, on average, better at handling people in crisis situations will generally handle, for example, the current coronavirus epidemic that is briefly mentioned in the article. The histogrammes displayed show that there is a difference between the two genders overall, but whether that difference is statistically significant I would have to check to be sure. - +1 y
@ChrisMaster69 This linked study within the first article you link here, also looks interesting.
papers.ssrn.com/.../papers.cfm?abstract_id=3617953 - +1 y
Sorry, not histogrammes, bar charts. (I hate that we can't correct mistakes here)
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Men have built, run and maintained society because they didn't ALLOW WOMEN TO DO ANYTHING.
They've done a fucking piss poor job at it too.
Its said that women make a good Manger and men make a good leaders.
Women are good with process and Men are good with creativity and can't be on one thing for a long time, so the create, delegate and move on.
Men and Women co-exist, both needs each other. Need to respect that...00 Reply388 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. To be honest with you I believe they are not in all things but there are many women out there capable be great leaders they have proven themselves to me for a long time
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+1 yI don't know for sure but I know for sure in my personal experience that some women are definitely better leaders and sometimes not. In an overall scope I'd be interested in data from multiple studies. It's a great question.
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+1 yHow do you lead well with ego, emotions, and feelings? Men are more logically sound. Look up the difference between testosterone and estrogen, biology does not lie
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I've known many a man-baby who led with tantrums but sure
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@FýrdracaDócincel thats anvextreme example. Exceptions dont make the rule. Jesus Christ we all know Some people have 6 fingers. Cut the BS, stop lying to yourself
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You stop lying to yourself.
Men are ego driven.. women are emotion driven.
We all fucking suck. - +1 y
@FýrdracaDócincel lmao 🤣😂🤣🤣 Fact$
It's true there are women leaders in human history who were successful. A lot of my male friends get offended and jealous by that 😬. But facts don't care about our feelings.
10 ReplySo your 13 years of life experience in primary school have shown you that girls get things done more effectively?
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+1 yYes and no. I do feel woman get things done because I notice it many times at work but guys also are good leaders. It might just depend on the person
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+1 yKid, you are out of your fucking mind. Any "studies" you have seen were generated by angry feminist and not based in any fact.
Ask women if they would rather work for a man or a woman. Do you own research than report back20 Reply Nope. In my experience women in leadership are more likely to be backstabbing and devious. Men are that way as well, but you do find a few inspirational leadership types. Rarely do you find that in a woman.
10 ReplyBoth can be leaders. Depends on the person and the job type. No one cares.
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+1 yDon't just think in black and white. Some women make good leaders and some men make good leaders. It depends on the man or woman's individual characteristics and personality traits, it rarely, if ever, depends on their gender.
00 ReplyWrong. Men are generally better leaders. Thats why there are so few women leaders because they are the most acceptable leaders of women, which may or may not be on the same level as the average male leader.
00 ReplyNo. My 1 hang up with women voting or leading.
1st intelligence has nothing to do with it I believe that is a neutral thing anyone can read the same book.
I believe women are far more likely to cave on moral issues than men.00 ReplyHave you stopped to analyze such studies or do you just take what ever they say in the conclusion (worst, what ever journalists say about the study) at face value?
Historically women aren't better leaders than men, nor less prone to war.10 Reply
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yI am curious to see the study. I don't think so. Women generally don't deal as well with stress as men.
https://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/stress/2010/gender-stress00 Reply
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yPerhaps if better candidates were put forward, we would see whether or not women are just as good or better than men. AOC? Hillary? Harris? Are these really the best we have to offer? If so, then men are FAR better leaders.
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I mean, to be fair Hillary and Harris are corporate sell outs, but what did AOC do wrong?
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@devilman666 “what did AOC do wrong”. Really try saying that out loud with a straight face.
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That doesn't answer the question lol also you can say this about anyone
"What did Trump do wrong?" Really try saying that out loud with a straight face.
"Mitch McConnell?" Really try saying that out loud with a straight face.
"George Bush?" Really try saying that out loud with a straight face.
"What did Arnold Schwarzenegger do wrong?" okay, admittedly I feel like it's hard to criticize Arnold no matter what side of politics you're on or how vague of an assumption/assertion you use, but this works on pretty much everybody else.
With that said, AOC is one of the few politicians I genuinely respect so please go ahead and tell me what she has done that upset you. If you want to keep pretending like it should just be obvious in the hopes that I accept it blindly then you can fuck off. - +1 y
@devilman666 Yes, why do so many people hate Cortez? I don't understand it, because no one who does ever gives a reason why.
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@devilman666 I just find it incredible that any man can “respect” someone who spews the insanity that AOC spews. Sure I can find young, naive and brainwashed feminists loving her delusional rhetoric. But a man “respecting” what she says? Really?
It’s possible to like what AOC says if you agree with her views. Hell i might every once in a blue moron like what Marjorie Taylor Green says. But I don’t “respect” her. She has nowhere near the influence and branding power AOC has anyway. I don’t see her (or any conservative) getting on the cover of Rolling Stone anytime soon.
Just for the record i neither liked nor completely respected Trump at least on a moral level. I think he is a narcissist and borderline delusional when things don’t go his way. But when comes down to brass tacks his policy was overall far more logical and beneficial for the USA vs the senile gross incompetence we are seeing from the Biden administration right now. This is especially in regards to HOW he handled the Afganistán pull out. But also trying to push through 3.5 trillion dollar stimulus packages that we don’t need is batshit crazy. There is a reason why his approval numbers plummeted the way they have. Even some moderate Democrats are pissed off at what he is doing.
But AOC…. just thought of taking her seriously makes me laugh and shake my head with incredulity. Really? You “respect” AOC?
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@backblueblack22 she puts people in their place... often, that pathetic little worm, Cruz. why don't you see where she was when Cruz bailed for Cancun during that mess with the snow storm.
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@devilman666 Harris would've been perfect for The Trump Admiration...
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ROFL. Except for Margaret Thatcher for the UK decades ago female leaders, be they in politics or in companies, are all predominantly ill equipped, ill trained and ill-minded for their role. Women work off emotion & oftentimes lack logic. Leadership roles require logic not emotion.
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@BlackBeauty90 I think it requires both and to just be a better person in general.
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@Sabretooth “she puts people in there place”.
Funny that she used her grandmothers damaged out in Puerto Rico as an “example” of how the Trump administration failed. People then asked her “well you make good money and you just leased as Tesla why don’t you help her.” Conservative pundit Matt Walsh started a gofundme fundraiser account for her abuela. It rose over $100k and AOC’s staff called gofundme to have it canceled. You see AOC would rather have the government tax people for things she wants vs. people trying to help on their own volition. She rather do a photo shoot at ICE facilities (wearing a Gucci watch) when Trump was in office. But when they got exponentially worse under the Biden administration she was nowhere to be seen down there.
No she’s s professional crybaby, a fucking communist and giant hypocrite. The real reason she got so much attention is she semi attractive. I bet you a million bucks if she was 30 years older and 30lbs heavier she would be a nobody.
She’s no victim. She’s no people’s warrior. She makes close to $200k a year (just in salary) courtesy of tax payer dollars to spew anti American hate.
Funny that Ben Shapiro offered her $10k to come on his show for a debate. If she really had any coherent arguments and guts she would take him up on it. She won’t thought because Ben would completely own her. - +1 y
@backblueblack22 https://youtu.be/TuIhb-xbW9I www.google.com/.../ . And really? Dude... The left dunks on that fool for sport!
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@Backblueblack22 thats not an argument, I can say the same shit about anyone I disagree with because it's biased and dishonest af. "I just find it incredible that anyone with a brain can respect someome who spews that insanity that Ronald does. Reagan armed Iraq and ignored the atrocities committed by Saddam Hussein. Sure, the young, naive, brainwashed republicans might love his delusional rhetoric, but actually 'respecting' what he says? Ridiculous!"
How is Trumps policy more logical and beneficial for the USA? How would Trumps approach in Afghanistan have differed from what Biden did?
I haven't looked into the stimulus tbh, so I don't know what to say about that, definitely not a great time for extra spending but also you gotta do what you gotta do so I don't know if I can speak enough on the circumstances to come to an adequate conclusion. - +1 y
@devilman666 hell! it was Trump who made that deal in the first place! no offence... but we all know the answer to that question.
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How the fuck are you going to judge someone for something created by their political opponent? AOC refused to take the money, she never set the gofundme up, you can't hold her responsible for that without being hella dishonest. Your argument is so ridciulously dishonest that I actually want to beat you. You just say shit about her with no basis, "AOX would rather have the government tax people for things she wants" where did this come up? You just said this out of nowhere, taxing people wasn't even mentioned till this point. This isn't about taxing people, this is about Trump blocking relief money for Hurricane Maria, and she is just sharing how this story has affected her personally. Also, she did help her grandma, this is just bullshit! "And for the record – my abuela is doing okay. It’s not about us, but about what’s happening to Puerto Rican’s across the island, she had a place to go to and be cared for – what about the thousands of people who don’t?", AOC SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED THAT HER GRANDMA DIDN'T NEED HELP, THIS WAS ABOUT HOW HER STORY REFLECTED ON THE PEOPLE OF PUERTO RICO, NOT HER GRANDMOTHER PERSONALLY. And then you go and act like gucci watches are a crime? Why is it even worth mentioning? It really sounds like you just hate her because of the culture wars.
How is she a professional crybaby? How is she a communist? Everyone is a hypocrite so...
And ofcourse you want to pretend like everyone who votes for her is a simp. The same can be said about Marjorie Taylor Green.
When AOC is in her 60s and puts on a bit of weight, I'll still support her, because her policy is smart.
I agree she's no victim, she rarely plays herself that way, the only time I can think of that she genuinely played the victim card was after the Jan 6 riot, and she actually was a victim there. However, she is the people's warrior, she fights for the people who have been victims, which is probably why you view her as a perpetual victim. - +1 y
Tell me, how is she playing the victim here?:
“The GOP acts like they care, but behind closed doors, this is what they actually say about the working class,” Ms Ocasio-Cortez said. “I wonder: did you have catering while bonding w/ wealthy donors over your disdain for the poor?”
Tbh there are a couple more times I can think of, but she genuinely was the victim. Like when Pelosi said that democrats have to stick together and avoid trying to primary each other, and then she supports candidates who are running against the progressive members of the party. The moderates want to kick us out of the party entirely and silence us progressives. Pelosi is a hypocrite who expects us to work with her as she stabs us in the back, because she's really good at outmaneuvering people politically. Admittedly AOC plays the race card more than she should, but she needs all the popularity she can get, it's the only thing protecting her from Pelosi. - +1 y
@backblueblack22 when AOC looks like RBG, It'll just be one more reason to support her.
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@Rachelspiks they hate her because of the culture war, she has been framed as farther left than the moderate democrats and thus everyone to the right of her is attacking her. Sure, Pelosi uses her where possible, but everyone in politics wants her out because she fights for the people, so they put her at the center of the culture war. Pelosi uses AOC to attack the republicans, thereby avoiding blame for the attacks, Pelosi also calls AOC a radical because she doesn't want AOC to have genuine power in the party, then republicans use that against Pelosi "if she's radical then why do you weaponize her against us?". She's hated by both sides and loved only by the people she stands for, because she was thrown into the center of the culture war, where she would take blows from both sides, yet all her people see is the fight she has in her, and the resilience she has to keep standing as blows rain in from all sides, and Pelosi repeatedly stabs her in the back. She fights harder than any other politician, even Bernie Sanders, and that's why the both sides fear her, but the democrats try to weaponize her despite their fears, because she is a real fighter who refuses to go down. Sure, she tries to be smart with picking her battles, but when she decides to fight she goes for the throat and refuses to let go until her opponent stops breathing, the democrats know she wants to fight them too, she's just waiting for the opportunity.
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@BlackBeauty90 both genders work off emotions and often lack logic. This is just generalizatin and nothing more.
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@devilman666 Yes, Cortez is one of the very few (along with Gabbard) politicians I actually have any respect for. I may not always agree with her, but at least she is willing to actually stand for something, and not compromise her principles.
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@devilman666 ROFL. Women are more prone to emotional aspects. Do try and use your head
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@BlackBeauty90 don't assume all women are like you, and don't assume all men are the opposite of you.
Opinion Owner+1 yThe responses to this make me scared to death for America.
AOC should not hold public office. She is an idiot. As in, NOT INTELLIGENT AT ALL. We need smart people in office, not AOC.- +1 y
and, yet, she's known for doing this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ICHpSkpCHM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KFQx-mc2Ao
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@Sabretooth did you share the wrong clip? That's a clip of AOC demolishing the CEO of Wells Fargo with facts and logic. Mr. Sloan could not adequately defend his companies human rights abuses and he ended up quitting from his position as CEO in 2019 as a result of this. How does this make her stupid or incompetent? She destroyed a corrupt man who had been causing suffering for others, namely the people, the little guy. Wells Fargo had invested in creating a financial crisis on Puerto Rico for profit.
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@devilman666 no, that was the point.
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@Sabretooth also, do you enjoy having your private data illegally stolen by facebook? If not then why is her attack of Zuckerberg a bad thing?
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@Sabretooth my bad then, I misunderstood, sorry for replying again, after responding the first time I had just noticed there was a second clip lol
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@devilman666 accepted. Where she an idiot.. I think either of her victims would've turned the tables on her. Furthermore, we know that Greene is deeply threatened by her.
552 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. I'd say sometimes.
Problem is I think more women make decisions based on emotions than men.
Which is not good when it comes to leadership roles.00 Reply
+1 yMost of the authority figures I've had who use deception and outright lying to get their way had vaginas.
<Insert obligatory "But I don't know" here>00 Reply@Afia3 You're still a kid, and therefore, retarded. Here's the score, the "effectiveness" you see now isn't real and girls get cut a lot of slack. When real shit needs to get done, Men are expected to take charge and get things done.
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+1 yI think it depends on the person, everyone has different strengths.
30 Reply Not always. I know of one lady who got a supervisors position but gave it up after a year because she couldn't handle what was required for the position. She's happily back doing what she did before becoming a supervisor.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yAs a sweeping generalisation, I don't believe this. I'm sure there are some great women leaders but there's no reason to believe they are any better or worse than men. Apparently some women leads are tyrants. But we can say the same of some men.
00 Reply524 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. No, terrible leaders. They're emotional democrats most of them, which are both automatic disqualifiers for being a good leader
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