True or false: many women are ruining their chances of being a WIFE by sleeping around and focusing too much on career?

[Anonymous]

True

False

[Anonymous]

Women also get shamed for being a prude for not having experience like a prostitute in my experience and this is also why my ex broke up with me just because i did not give the manwhore sex although he is a muslim and should wait till marriage- the irony ;) So i would not say that. According to my experience with gag guys is that some or many of them want a virgin or women with low bodycount who have the experience of a prostitute/pornstars. This is why i prefere virgin or men with low bodycount who is also a "prude" like me. Yes you are prude when you ain't into anal sex, deep throath, choking, blood play or another self harming bs but i get called weird or crazy when i also want to do all of this with my non existent my strap-on dildo as a joke. It is easy to stick your dick in every hole but hard to endure all of the pain, health issues, consequences etc. I also think that men who are against of promiscuos women should not be promiscuos themself. You can't be against hook up culture but also be part of it, since it is hypocritical and selfish.
I also can't generalize men or women, of course. I am just talking about my experience.

[Opinion Owner]

I also want to say that being a housewife without working on the farm etc is actually something modern and so women were not priviliged enough to stay at home. Yes in the 60-80s this was possible but mostly women did not just stay home and they "work" by doing work at farm or at their "garden". So you kinda insult all of the women of the post and today. Your grand grand grand grand mother could not just stay at home but you probably prefere these women from the past. In the Europe or in german speaking countries women built the whole country after the wars due to shortage of men who are called "Trümmer Frauen". So these women were alll not being worth of wife because of you stupidity and ignorance? You are just insulting all the great women just for working aka doing great work for the humanity

[Opinion Owner]

*past

[Opinion Owner]

Also man up and make this question under male profil. Instead of using an anon pink profile

[Opinion Owner]

Ok sorry for kink shaming anyone and being offensive/sexist towards (promiscuos) men. Of course you can like anal sex, choking etc and the way i express myself was bad. What i meant is that there is a pressure on you to be "kinky" too, otherwise you may get called prude.

[Apple1996]

Probably true. I became a wife young. Didn't sleep around or focus on career. If you want the family life it's better to start sooner then later before time runs out

[bamesjond0069]

One of the most intelligent women on this whole site.

[Apple1996]

@bamesjond0069 awh thank you

[Anonuser838383]

she's not more intelligent she just doesn't have as much hate for men

[whosnumber1]

how did you get dislikes for that comment. 🙄

[Apple1996]

@whosnumber1 they're just jealous that I have a man and they don't 😆

[whosnumber1]

🤭🤭

[Chris_u006]

@bamesjond0069 Couldn't agree with you more.
@Apple1996 isn't just one of the most intelligent women on this site, she's one of the coolest down to earth actually honest lady who care enough to actually speak her mind when she want to.
I respect that so much with women! Im genuinely happy that you have a wonderful family life even though I know nothing about you at all. Why? Because I know how important family is.

[WindAtMyBack]

I'd say false. That's because when people match up, there are hundreds of things combined that makes a person what they are. People might meet hundreds of people in their lives. Out of all of those only a select few are serious candidates for a match - i. e. when the chemistry is there.

Things like sleeping around (whatever that might mean to you) and focusing on career might be deal breakers for some guys, but they are not the kind of thing that will turn away the masses. There are millions of potential matches out there, and even if someone has those traits, there are still millions of potential matches.

It's true that a lot of men will not like those traits. It's also true that a LOT of men don't care. It's not going to ruin their chances, or even significantly reduce their chances. The kind of man that would not want those traits in a woman are probably not the kind of men the woman would want anyway, so it goes both ways. They would just not be compatible, just like they might not be compatible for a thousand other reasons.

[Anonymous]

True.

If you're interested in doing things career-wise, then good for you but in terms of attraction career doesn't have much relevance on your attractiveness. So investing a lot into career first can become a trade off. Also on a related note, women who are obviously going to be busy will be less attractive, no one wants a partner that's never going to be around.

As for partners, generally speaking the more partners you have the less attractive you are. Women naturally start at high attractiveness and decline more over time, on their way down they will grab hold of a partner who is making his way up in attractiveness.
A woman who sleeps around is like jumping off that cliff. Her attractiveness as a long term partner will plummet.

[Novacane]

Okay the focusing on career one depends on a variable. As we know women are more hypergamy so they wouldn’t date a man that has a career, if the woman is making 6 figures, it’s evident she will want a guy that also makes 6 figures or more, and let’s be honest there are not that many guys that make that kind of money let alone in general those people make a small percentage, and those men who do make that kind of money, let’s be honest they have options and usually go for the young beautiful trophy wife, not the “career women”, and since women don’t date down, they are left with a small percentage to pick from. Now for her sleeping around yes, no guy wants to be with a girl that has been around with many guys, but not only
does it make her look bad but that also will fall on the person she is with.

[DarkWinterNights]

There is some nuance, but statistically true. Sleeping around is a biggie for me. I didn’t sleep around with more people than I can count on one hand, I expect the same from my partner. I’m also not keen on being the guy she “settled” for.
As for career, it’s a bit of a 50/50 bias. For one, women rarely will date down, and when they do the divorce rate skyrockets. Men usually say it doesn’t matter, but men don’t really have a lot to offer, and when a woman has options I’ve seen multiple cases of “he had no drive” and “he didn’t apply himself enough”.

[JSmuve]

True, women just don't want to admit it because it makes them accountable for their life choices. Few self-respecting guys wanna be the one to commit to the woman who spread their legs for a city block worth of guys. There's too many complications that'll show up long-term to be worth it. As for the career, career-focused women tend to have masculine traits that are unattractive to lots of guys. Not only that, if those women are in high-earning positions, chances are they will not want to be with a guy who earns less than her, because that would be "settling for less than she deserves" so their pool of guys is much reduced, limiting their chances of finding a guy.

[MzAsh]

Having certain masculine traits has worked wonders for my relationships. Being too heavy on the feminine will leave a woman with no respect, no money, and no resources to move on after he cheats on her.

[JSmuve]

@MzAsh that's probably because your partner has feminine traits. And if being too feminine leaves a woman with no respect, money, or resources and gets cheated on repeatedly, then that reflects her poor choice in men.

[MzAsh]

Everyone has certain masculine and certain feminine characteristics. I’ve always been ambitious and independent minded with little compliance to traditional gender roles. So it has always been important to me to have a guy who was supportive of that, which means he can’t be too heavy on the protector and provider status, and he must be okay with doing his part in the kitchen and around the house, which is what I found.

[poof_22]

Oh yeah women are too shallow and their standards are too high but at the same time it's ALWAYS her fault if the relationship doesn't work out. Yeah what you've said sounds nice in theory but that doesn't apply to real life.

[aquamarine321]

Most females will say false, because they only see it from a females eyes, because she believes in getting a good job and money and during those 10 years or more years you will come across many guys who could be your future husband, but when you get old miserable, unattractive then you’ll realize you’re single and unhappy and wondering where all the men went, and then you become lonely depressed and desperate that now you’ll go for any available make to marry, plus men don’t want much , because you ain’t giving them anything so they go for younger women, because younger women have it all even tho they may/may not be working or finically well of, but because younger women are more humble easier to deal with more loving caring and can cook and clean and is

[Aphrodite801]

It’s because most of us don’t listen to idiots like you. Reality is reality, thank goodness so many men don’t think like you.

[Aphrodite801]

And than goodness most of us aren’t dumb enough to listen to bitter unattractive “older” clowns like you.

[Aphrodite801]

Have fun balding.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

I feel like this is one of those things guys tell themselves when women reject them so that they can feel a measure of revenge.

[bingbongbangbung]

You're literally behaving exactly how he described such women

[Ez-Bri-Z]

Oh, and how is that?

[aquamarine321]

@Aphrodite801 smh, we know as long as speak the facts against y’all emotional ass we are fools and this name and that name while everything females say it right and men shouldn’t say anything against it

[aquamarine321]

@Ex-Bri-Z so females are saying because I speak against what y’all say so you automatically assume I was rejected @Aphrodite801 and I can bet that none of y’all are in a happy relationship now

[Ez-Bri-Z]

I'm married and have been with my spouse between dating/marriage for going on 21 years. I think I might have a bit of idea on how to make a relationship work, but please do go on with your 27 years of experience in just being alive to tell me how relationships work again.

I so do love a good laugh.

[aquamarine321]

@Ez-Bri-Z hmm so that’s the only thing you notice about what I said, being in a relationship, but the fact that men can’t speak facts about what y’all say and calling us men names because we say something you emotional females don’t like

[Ez-Bri-Z]

Pretty sure you were the emotional one by saying that you bet that none of us are in a happy relationship. You were wrong about that just as you are wrong about what you refer to as "facts". They are simply opinions of your personal preferences.

Plenty of women pursue a career and still find love when they are ready. Marriage rates have dropped specifically because both men and women are focusing on careers first. They choose to cohabitate rather than marry. I actually did a question on this site and performed research into this recently unlike your opinion here.

So no, I didn't just focus on one and if you want to refer to someone as emotional, I highly recommend you refer to your closest mirror. You have let your bias of your poor experiences result in lashing out in both your question and your response after.

I didn’t call you any names. You however made assumptions about my relationship status, career women in general and the shallowness of men on the whole who in your terms will refuse to date any successful woman because she isn't humble and acts like a personal servant to you.

If you crave a traditional marriage, then by all means, seek one, but do please keep your outdated ideas of what women should be to yourself and stop preaching to us what we can and can't do with our lives.

I'm sorry you weren't born 100 years ago where you could have had the control over women you desire. Catch up with the times before they leave you behind.

[poof_22]

so basically women should not focus on financial security and become a slave to a man untill he is not attracted to her anymore, divorce her, leave her with nothing and go with the next younger woman or cheat on her... cause that happens quite often. Did you also know that the vast majority of parents in nursing homes are rarely visited by their family and die alone? Yeah so whatever path you choose, you are going to end up the same. The way you talk about "females" is so degrading, no wonder feminism exists.

[aquamarine321]

@poof_22 I don’t understand how every woman think the same and talk the same exact thing, because questions close to those and y’all answer it the same about financial independence, slavery to a man, leaving his woman for a younger woman like wtf y’all hit head’s together or something, y’all females say the same thing over and over again

[Ez-Bri-Z]

If we say the same thing, its probably because a lot of us have the same shared experience. It's a trend we see all the time. Hell, it is the whole reason alimony began to exist in the first place, but you are failing to acknowledge it and instead continue your campaign of blaming women.

[poof_22]

I literally parroted YOURS and other mens ideals about women. Men consantly talk about the female wall, how she is damaged goods after a certain age, how y'all won't tolerate when your women acts "masculine". We women advice other women to ALWAYS have a backup plan because statistics show that the majority of domestic/sexual abuse that women face is done by THEIR partner and it's actual risk when you are completely financially depended on a man. This is a predatory world which is why we keep repeating actual FACTS about y'all.

[Kiran_Yagami]

Truer words were never spoken. Women can lie to themselves about it until they hit the wall, but at the end of the day what men want and what men want in a wife does not bend to your feelings. Today's modern women does not understand men at all, which is just baffling to me because we men are simple creatures. Men don't want a woman who has slept around and men do not give a damn about your career. If you put your career ahead of motherhood, men will not view you as a suitable mother. No-fucking-duh. You'd think that would be obvious to anyone with half a brain.

[AD240pCharlie]

Most people (at least most people in the younger generation) don't give that much of a crap about a partner's sexual history (as long as there aren't any patterns of unsafe sex or cheating) but being career-driven can definitely be a problem for both men and women if they want any kind of long-term relationship. Both building a career and developing a relationship require a lot of time and effort, and those are things no one has an infinite amount of, so the more you put into one of them the less you can put into the other. If a person wants both, then they will have to prioritize and divide their efforts between them.

[Xoxocutekitty]

Higher salary comes from better jobs. Better jobs are found at better companies. Better companies provide quality benefits. Quality benefits usually mean better maternity leave.

A woman who decides to have children sitting pretty in a higher ranked position will no doubt be treated better, have more returning job security, and be in a financial position to take the additional 3 months family leave (unpaid). She may decide to, she may not, but the difference is Choice.

Sleeping with lots of people only matters to some people. Some people view it as additional experience and less emotional work (women dumping the ill effects of purity culture onto unsuspecting men).

[Gangactivities911]

Absolutely 100% true. Most Men don’t really care about ur career like u think they do. I mean I guess it depends on the guy. But if u ask me and I think most guys that’s probs what they’d say. I’m not interested in dating a 30 yr old woman no matter what degree/job she has. Maybe if she was like a billionaire and really attractive and really good in bed and we clicked super well but realistically there’s no job that a woman could have that would make me choose them over younger women. I’m only interested in starting a serious relationship with younger women.

[Dragonpurple]

I don't think career has anything to do with it. A wife is not someone who does not work or focus on her career.

I would help her with her career as much as she wanted and have in the past.

As for sleeping around, that is more likely to be a issue but not a guaranteed issue. All it does it eliminate guys that do not want her as a wife because she has slept around.

That is where it might be an issue as it seems like it is hard enough to find the right person but if you eliminate a good chunk of people out there, either through your own choices or by being very selective then your options get lower and can mean a life of being single.

Which may not actually be a bad thing.

[Anonymous]

It is not the politically correct things to agree with that statement, but that doesn't change the fact that it's definitely true. Here's why.

Promiscuous women are low value women when it comes to a mate. Men know this instinctively, and statistics show it is a fact... promiscuous women tend to make worse mothers, worse wives and they tend to be more unhappy in marriage and more likely to divorce.

Also, women in their 20s have most of the power in the dating game. They lose that power after about age 30, at which point many become desperate to find a mate and have children. This article sums it up very well.

https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/why-women-lose-the-dating-game-20120421-1xdn0.html

[Ez-Bri-Z]

False. Getting married is easy. I could find someone on the street, drive to Vegas and be married tonight. Building a career is much harder to do. If a woman's partner (whether it be male or female) is uncomfortable with her pursuing a career, then maybe they aren't the right one for her anyway.

[YollyM]

Not all women "RUIN" chances of being wives because NOT ALL WOMEN desire to be wives. Thus they aspire to be TRULLY INDEPENDENT. Not because they CAN'T get married and have their husbands take care of them , but because they DON'T WANT to get married.
Men often make the mistake of assuming that ALL women see marriage as an achievement but that was in the past (though for some women marriage STILL is the end goal in life).
It's a new era , women are more liberated and have a sense of self. Women know that their bodies belong to them and not to society. So if they want to be sexually active before marriage they can because MARRIAGE IS NOT THE END GOAL FOR ALL WOMEN.

[JC1981]

Maybe those women arn't interested in becoming a wife. And no it isn't true at all, it's a personal choice in both aspects. Career and sexual experience have nothing to do with someone's potential for a committed relationship. Unless your materialistic, judgmental and don't have the ability to see what's on the inside of a person.

[Anonuser838383]

A lot of cum and aborted fetal blood

[JC1981]

@Anonuser838383 ewww... it's exactly that kind of mindset that puts women off a person.

[Anonuser838383]

Stop being criminals then

[JC1981]

@Anonuser838383 Stop being a Knob

[Anonuser838383]

you're a social criminal

[JC1981]

@Anonuser838383 Are you the social police? Got any virtual handcuffs? Lol

[Anonuser838383]

I wish

[That1dude25]

There a small truth to it only cause some guys will consider that a deal breaker. I think you should just be cognizant of the type of guy u want. If you want a family oriented guy that hasn't slept with a ton of women. U should act in a family friendly way and not sleep around. However there dudes that are cool with it as long as you are cool with whatever in their history. Basically the cleaner the guy u want the cleaner u should act. Careers are hard cause life a balance. U gotta make time for a relationship but being successful and focus won't drive off secure men, it can scare insecure men. Also some men want house wives which is fair but if that not u , u should try to conform to that anyways

[Caunsos]

The cost of a family it sometimes that can rarely be met on a single income.

Also the whole question is made up of subjective terms. First "many women" how many is many? Are talk the majority of women or just a large number and if is it a large number how large 100,000 or 10 million? Second "sleeping around" how much sex with how many partners in how much time counts as sleeping around? Third "focusing too much" how much is too much? Do we messure it in hours worked? Do we count hours networking? Fourth "and" are we saiding the these women are doing both or just at least one of the two?

[Mavie123]

I'd say part of what you said is right.
well focusing on your career is cool and of course, it won't ruin your chance to be a wife.
but yeah sleeping around might.
coz nobody wants to be with someone unfaithful wether girl or guy.
it goes both ways

[Kayla45]

Well... I'm a wife to a loving husband and I'm super career focused and driven. So maybe some have this issue, but certainly not all women do.

I'm pretty sure guys dig a woman who's career driven instead of being a jobless housewife. (Which in some cases is perfectly acceptable if kids are involved, don't get me wrong)

[Youryeodongsaeng]

I am going to speak for myself here, I'd sleep around if I was single as a pringle. If I don't want to date yet, then I don't want to date. Simple as that. If I want to focus on a certain career, then I am not going to let anyone get in the way or hold me back. Yeah, I may be ruining my chance of becoming a wife, but at least I'm enjoying freedom while I'm at it.

[Anonymous]

For sure many are reducing their chances. Some are ruining them altogether. No idea how many though since plenty aren't really interested in the first place.

But yeah--sleeping around definitely does reduce a girl's long-term relationship value. Career focus doesn't hurt per se, but it doesn't help much at all and it DOES take a tremendous amount of time and energy so in that sense it can reduce the odds of relationship success for a girl as well.

I think everyone knows this. It's just not p. c. to say it out loud. But smart girls who do well in their careers are well aware that it doesn't help them on the dating market like it does for their male colleagues.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

False.
1. Men prefer woman who have their own independence so focussing on career is good. Also you can date while also focusing on your career. One thing doesn't prevent the other.
2. About the number of previous sexual partners... who the fuck cares?