Naw, not necessarily. Like, the opposite isn't true, either.
But what it seems like is that women get enough attention that they can form their egos around it. So their egos are often externally-sourced and dependent on constant validation.
Guys get hardly any attention. So most of our egos are internally sourced. It means we are more independent of the external validation, but it also means our egos aren't as accurate to what people actually think about us, and that they are relatively fragile because every comment carries so much weight.
I guess your ego becomes fragile based on the source. Women seem to have externally-formed egos that are externally fragile, and guys seem to have internally-formed egos that are internally-fragile.
Though I will say, nothing gets me quite like a girl saying "not enough people called me beautiful today" or "women need to be told they are beautiful to properly function." It sounds like going to a starving child and saying "Ugh, I can only afford to eat salads today." or going to an orphan and talking about how your parents didn't validate you enough.
Absolutely, Women can't take criticism without it getting personal.
Honestly I think women do but just don't realise it. In the past I would find it so insulting if man rejected me especially if I thought he was less attractive then myself. I'd think to myself "what's wrong with me?" Because Id been so used to pretty privilege I just thought I was intitled to men and everything else that came with being pretty and when I didn't get that I would act rude or in shock.
Now I've moved past the phase in my life I feel really embarrassed about it and see I had a ego problem I wasn't even aware of at the time besides being shy I thought because I was pretty I was some how above others
This is interesting. The only woman so far to give a different opinion
Men have bigger egos. This is why vast majority of men don't like to date women who are more successful, educated, make more money than they do. This is the same reason why men tend to be considered "leaders of the household" who makes all the big decisions. If men didn't have big egos, then why was society historically always been patriarchal in every part of the world. If you take a look at a couple driving, its always the man driving the car while the woman sits in the passenger seat. Women are more likely to be insecure , but they don't tend to be more egotistical. There is a difference between those two words
This particular situation, is not an ego problem but an insecurity problem
Women in general have more choices than men and if in a relationship, the woman is much more successful than the man, then he will have a thinking process like this "what am I contributing in the relationship? If someone much better than me arrives in her life, i will be kicked out"
As a woman, if you can have access to a man who is "better" than your guy (in terms of finances, career and masculinity as compared to the current guy you are with), what's stopping you from being with him?
(This reasoning is often called Hypergamy.)
@IMuser
I'm gonna tell you this: The fact that men are intimidated by a woman moer successful than him, it shows he's egotistical. Women aren't afraid of moer successful men, in fact they love successful men. Many men HATE successful woman. They find it even uncomfortable to be around a woman who is moer successful than him.
[Women in general have more choices than men and if in a relationship, the woman is much more successful than the man, then he will have a thinking process like this "what am I contributing in the relationship? ]
he is well aware of what he brings to the relationship. The chemistry, the joy that he gives his girlfriend, the way his girlfriend laughs at his jokes. we enter relationships because we genuinely enjoy being around them, not because we are looking for someone to pay our rent.
Let me ask you a counter question: why do women love succesful men? Is it not because of finances?
And you may observed that women would not really be interested in being with a guy who is "inferior" to them (hence the obsession with succesful men). Why?
The only possible explanation for "ego" can be that we have no other ideal of a relationship: for years the men in a relationship have been "better" than women and the society and "us" still hold to that standard. Let's assume that there is a couple where women is in charge (at least financially) and the man is at a relatively submissive position. That man will be emasculated
I have been in a relationship with a girl who i would consider much more successful than me and have been insecure and often compared to the other men in her life. This made me sick and eventually, we broke up. This comparison can also be a reason why men are hesitant to be with a successful women. (When you are calm, you may deny this but when your emotions are at a high, there is a high chance you will compare your guy with a successful guy you know because at that moment, your emotions are controlling you)
@IMuser
listen douchebag, this had nothing to do with your girlfriend. this breakup all had to do with your insecurity, your ego, your mental issues. Your girlfriend made a decision to date you for a reason. She enjoyed your company. You let your mental issues destroy a perfectly good happy relationship. If your lack of success bothered her , she wouldn't have dated you. If she thought you were a loser, she wouldn't have dated you. If she thought you weren't' worth her time, she wouldn't have made you her boyfriend in the first place.
Now you're trying to blame a woman for her "success" - which broke up the relationship. This has nothing to do with her success. It has to do with your ego, insecurities, and mental issues.
I work around a lot of poor broke men. Many of them actually are married to women who make much more money than them. They have children too. And all of them are completely happy and confident with their partners.
One question: the "broke' men which you work with, those who are married to successful women, how do they manage their insecurity when the whole word values a man in what he contributes?
Or are they able to accept that they are weak financially and the only thing they can bring in the relationship is comfort?
How do they navigate through the feeling that since a woman has many options, he won't be "dumped"? What was the thing which made his relationship strong enough?
(As you can determine, i am kind of biased towards the role of a man due to personal experiences. I am well aware of how i damaged my relationship and how much I hated to get compared to her guy friends. I am curious as to how those relationships are working)
@IMuser
[One question: the "broke' men which you work with, those who are married to successful women, how do they manage their insecurity when the whole word values a man in what he contributes?]
Because some people weren't raised with the mentality that a man's worth is soley tied to his financial net worth. You should never ever marry a woman who values you only based on your financial net worth. Most of my coworkers who have kids are married to girls who make more than them. Otherwise, they wouldn't be able to support their kids. Many of them are very happy, stable families with no issues or concerns.
Its the same thing as a man who ties a woman's value completely based on her looks. Of course an ugly woman would feel unworthy of any guy who looks better than her, because she knows that she has nothing valuable other than her looks.
You were raised with a very old fashioned, traditional, TOXIC mentality.
@IMuser
[Or are they able to accept that they are weak financially and the only thing they can bring in the relationship is comfort?]
There you go again. This is what the problem lies. Nowadays, modern women don't need a man's money. There are plenty of colelge educated women who have great careers, make decent money, WHO DO NOT NEED FINANCIAL SUPPORT FROM YOU. These are women who AREN'T broke, can afford to buy tehir own houses , cars, send themselves on vacations.
what makes you think that ALL women are in desperate need of your financial support?
do you think we are still living in the 1950s where the vast majority of women have no education, careers?
@IMuser
sure, its always a good thing for someone to be financially stable especially if you want to start a family. but LOVE CAN STILL HAPPEN if a man isn't financially stable.
when you fall in love, you fall in love with how the person makes you feel. How this person can bring so much joy to your life by simply being there talking to you, making you laugh.
should i copy and paste this another 20 more times so this can seep into your head?
Love is not a transaction of money. Love is enjoying each other's company, making each other laugh, basking in happiness.
I see... It makes me question what is an individual's worth then
I wouldn't call this kind of thinking as exactly toxic because it somehow makes sense: the more a man earns, the better quality of life his wife and subsequently children can have.
In modern times, on a personal level, i would be much more inclined to have the "wife" focus on raising kids and taking care of herself instead of worrying about finances because the fundamental right of a child is it's mother's attention
Seems like i have lot of stuff to read and think 😅. I thank you for your time
@IMuser
[I wouldn't call this kind of thinking as exactly toxic because it somehow makes sense: the more a man earns, the better quality of life his wife and subsequently children can have.]
why don't you keep in mind that modern women have enough money to raise their kids typically? why don't you keep in mind that husband and wife's incomes consolidate to 1 income? you're acting as if its only the husband's income that matters, but not the wife's. When you're married, income from BOTH spouse will better off the family. And nowadays, vast majority of households CANNOT SURVIVE OFF OF ONE INCOME. You need a massive wakeup call.
[In modern times, on a personal level, i would be much more inclined to have the "wife" focus on raising kids and taking care of herself instead of worrying about finances because the fundamental right of a child is it's mother's attention]
I wasn't raised by a stay home mom. I turned out perfectly fine. You're acting as if kids cannot be raised well into successful adults unless they had a stay home mom around them 24/7.
I can tell you that I am college educated, have a decent paying job, great career prospects, am a person of great moral character.
The problem lies with old fashioned brainwashing. You sound like someone from the 1950s
I was raised by a working mom and a working dad. And guess what? I turned out way better than you.
You don't have a great paying job. I'm the one with the good paying job and a more successful life. I don't have to worry about not being able to support my children in the future. You're the one who is flawed, not me. My kids would be fine, not yours.
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Yes. Women absolutely have bigger egos than men. It’s a stereotype that men are the ones with the larger ego when women are so god damned entitled in today’s day/age/society. Women have so much that “empowers” them like self objectification, Women’s History Month, Feminism, etc. What do men have that bolster their egos? I honestly can’t think of anything. I’m sure men used to, but sense EVERYTHING is about women now, they’re the ones with the booster ego entitlement syndrome yet hide behind that victim mentality to make it seem like they’re still these perfect fragile little angels when they’re not
Why is anyone surprised 🤷🏻♂️ It’s not complicated as we do not possess Goodness. Nor can we enlighten or educate ourselves into Goodness, therefore, the construct of a Great Human Society, is an impossibility.
-We are fallen and when we exercise our free choice we do not use Goodness as the measure by which to choose. We use perceived Self-Interest. So yes, all people are Egotistical and Self-serving.
-As a society we have been fed Rogerian thinking that evolves around Self. Self-Identity, Self-Concept, Self-Realization Self-Safety etc…. We love and worship our fallen Selves, therefore, Secular Humanism as well as Moral Relativism emerges.
-No Absolutes and each do what is right as interpreted by their INDIVIDUAL SELF. Without Grace and Goodness, “there is nothing new under the sun”(on this Earth) either individually or societally.
Men have bigger egos we get a compliment from an old lady and we feel on top of the world we have bigger and stronger egos as a man who is attractive I'll tell you we aren't meant to be getting the compliments girls get because it really really gets to our heads only 1 percent of men get compliments like women and it messes with our self perception women on the other hand all that validation just helps them double down truth is women have fragile weak egos and can't handle rejection they say they're 10s because they need a 10 not because they actually believe it women panic if they dont get the hot guy of their dreams no they just pretend to be all that
Honestly I have to agree to some extend. Most guys like confident and secure women... but at the same time when you're on line dating you find a lot of the women have inflated egos, because they get a lot of validation from randoms and they let it go to their head.
In my youth I would put up with it honestly because I just wanted to get laid. Yes I got the 8s and 10s... but these days I date 6s and 7s now because they are more realistic about who they really are and don't put unrealistic expectations on men.
Hey ladies I am no slump myself I am 8 to 10 to a lot of other ladies as well... so just because you get a lot of validation from 1s to 7s you need to put it into perspective okay?
Confidence comes with those that “know their worth”. That being said women get a lot of support from society and the government and even more attention from men in particular reinforcing this worth. This issue is their worths not tied to merit so much as their gender and looks.
Most average women will get more likes with the right pose or clothing then even the hottest men. Have a popularity contest between 2 women, one who’s hot and poor attitude and one who’s average and a great personality, and run it men that don’t know these women. This reinforces these hot and toxic women’s perception of themselves…
It really comes down to the individual. One of the big issues with social media is how it breeds groupthink. So people get so caught up in seeing people as part of a larger group rather then individuals. Because they are so caught up in their groupthink to see people as individuals.
Think of it from a scientific perspective for a moment. To prove that women have bigger egos then men you would have to do a series of experiments that records the ego of every man and women and compares them. Also what it means for a person to has a big ego will vary between people there will be a massive list of variables that need to be considered. So this the kind of series of experiments that could take the lifetime of many, many scientists to gather data for if it's even possible to gather all the data needed.
Do to that such as statement is a statement that is more then likely impassable to prove.
I noticed over the years that women can’t handle rejection as well men (are expected) to. They will get all pissy and take cheap shots like calling the guy “probably gay”. Huge double standard.
Also as for ego I noticed many women are more selfish than men. They are more entitled. The whole “friéndzone” debate is a perfect example of this. Women feel less guilty about taking advantage of a man they are not attracted to then vice versa. There is actually very little a woman can offer to a man as a platonic friends. They never have a solid answer on exactly what value they provide to the man in those scenarios.
From an evolutionary perspective i think there I think there was a time in history women had to be selfish for survival purposes. Unfortunately these instincts are still making many of them act this way.
Anyway there are exceptions both ways with this. But this is just what I have observed.
Some guys have big egos in different ways. For example when talking about sex, this one it's terrible with most guys. They'll act like they're a sex god bragging about it when they're probably not good in bed when asking their exes. Another one some guys brag about their dicks... I get grossed out and irritated when some guys do this, please shut up. Some guys act like they're the best at everything having such a gigantic ego, or they think they know everything, or never wrong in their minds. Some guys it's impossible for them to admit they're wrong.
Women on the other hand, from my experience, most are so insecure, it's about wanting or needing attention, validation, not an ego thing. There are women with big egos that are so stubborn, it's nearly impossible to change her mind about something she feels strongly towards no matter how much proof is thrown at her when she's wrong.
Men are egotistical as fuck also! They're just better at hiding it. Women like to flaunt material shit, half a bitch can't even afford bc she got bills/rent to pay but she'll still buy a Fendi or Gucci purse to mk her status higher!. A man will get a loan if he can't afford the new car or refinance a few times on the house since he's been late on the mortgage. But it's not so easy for people to find out he did that. So he'll lie he got a new car and bought his own home blah blah..
Agreed, women tend to show it in different ways than men. Both can have big or small egos but men I find, are either conscious about how good their new car is, their ‘size’ or how muscular they are, women more their ‘assets’, designer bags perhaps and shoes, and face with makeup
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Men have bigger egos in the sense of thinking they're experts and love trying to one-up other guys. Women have bigger egos concerning looks, sex, needing attention, having a God complex in believing they can change a man, and believing they are right just because they’re women.
After dealing with the juvenile guy I had to all day because I once turned him down for a casual intimate relationship and then told him maybe I would consider it because I made a mistake and now he's being a huge dick, I'd say some guys have waaaay more fragile egos.
Ego isn't gender based, men who use "alpha" as a self descriptor, and women who fish for compliments, are typically ego driven.
Anyone who gets mad when they are wrong or when they lose at something competative is ego driven.
Ego driven people in general are a waste of time to be around.
I beg to differ.. in my opinion, depends on the individual, not gender.. There are some old guys in their 50s and 60s thinking they're Brad Pitt and George Clooney and going after girls in their late teens who early 20s. I knew a guy in his 50s calling any woman over 23 a hag.. Let's be honest, if you were that good-looking, you wouldn't be still single for all this time
Mixed feelings. Women tend to be a bit more towards bigger egos these days since they have unlimited options, all though men have more options albeit less, Women act like total bitches, while men act like total dicks. It goes both ways women have bigger egos now these days
I don't know I see a lot of men on here with an ego so big they are over 40 and think they should get a 10 year old virgin. It really just depends on the individual. I know a lot of women that are pretty down on their looks as well as women who think they’re a 10.
Another reason to steer clear of Bars, nightclubs and social media. Full of fake, attention-seeking and bitter harlets.
Social groups and work are the places to go to find high value women. Women who give instead of expect. Women who are genuinely interesting and interested in you.
The way I see it, the more a human has power, the more lilely he or she will loose to the ultra ego. Power comes on many forms. For women ots their looks, gor men ots their success and so on.
Not all on top are ignorant ass bitches or mofos.
Hmmm it definitely depends... we’re both pretty bad. I will say this though, women do take criticism much, much worse than men, which is why they are a nightmare to work with. Some are better than others, if a girl grew up with a lot of men around she’s much easier to work with
Middle aged western women tbh. Followed by university grad women. This is just my experience and observations. Could totally be wrong and if it were me taking a shot in the dark I'd say it's a pretty even split overall but I think those who went to uni have a special stick shoved up their @$$
Not necessarily. Humans can all have big egos depending on the person; the ego is a human thing not related to gender necessarily. However, I have seen the biggest egos in some of the men I know or have seen.
I think we all have egos, a full 100 but how much of it we show depends on other factors. Like how we were brought up for instance, if you grew up with parents who knew how to apologize when they were wrong , you are likely to not be egoistic.
100% yes
Women need to be taught to be submissive and humble through institutions like religion and school.
Nothing is worse than an out of touch housewife living off her husband’s paycheck who cannot deal with an ounce of inconvenience without having a mental breakdown
Not all women, in real life, but many of the ones on GAG are such narcissists, think they're perfect, and think their opinions are gold. But, then again, many of the guys are like that on here too.
I don't know if I agree or disagree. Because how do you accurately measure the degree of every ego? Especially since they change with time & a given situation. They aren't fixed at all.
I would agree that guys show their egos differently making in one area of showing how one's ego can be portrayed seem lesser than another. Not that women have bigger ones.
More bloated egos yes, not necessarily bigger egos. Ie they have bigger egos without accomplishments.
Both can have outsized egos, but there's no question social media affects women's ego more than mens.
Wouldn't you have a big ego if you got so much sexual attention just for existing? But its only for a very small part of their lives.
100% agree. In fact, I'd say this is an objective fact of life.
Again saying it doesn't have anything to do with gender. It depends on the individual.
This depends on the person. I don’t think it has much to do with hormones and genitalia. Ego is a learned behavior, not something that’s genetically inherited.
Definitely true. Has to do with one gender receiving more attention from the opposite sex. As much as we would like to only blame women for this, it's largely men's fault.
When it comes to dating 110% when it comes to the rest of life maybe not. A lot if not most women have their heads like actually up their ass their so delusionally narcissistic when it comes to dating. Like it’s hard to believe sometimes.
Yes women to the point where it’s not that they are attractively confident but just arrogant you want a perfect man to accept you for all you’re shortcomings no man wants to take care of a weirdo woman child
I have met more women than I have men, but I have never men a man who could take a joke harder than my women friends. It's an individual thing, not a gender thing.
Greatly depends on context and the individual
I take some beating
Different people have different egos, so I disagree
Fine by me
They display egotistical behavior in diffrent ways. Men are less likly to help someone in need, women have inflated egos because of soscial media
I disagree. I think that every human is different in terms of their self-esteem, and some women may be higher in this.
Naw, they just think they do. They think their feelings are just as valid as any fact or logic. Hard to argue, but they're just feelings.
Maybe not bigger, but feminine egos definitely get pretty huge. And they are sensitive egos.
I think men have bigger egos sorry lol. It seems like a masculine thing to me.
I disagree, but that’s based off of the people I spend time with.
They do have bigger egos I don't know what ur on about
@Siegram173 Sounds like someone has a big enough ego to start arguments for no reason (it’s you)
I think this is completely false. Majority of men have ridiculously inflated egos which is why they get so crushed when facing rejection.
Men tend to be the only ones even asking and having to face rejection. Women just wait around for the men to make the first move. So it’s kinda unfair to use that as a reason to claim that men have ridiculously inflated egos...
@Heartache0405 I dont ust when approaching women I mean in general. Typically if you ask a women if she's good at something she undersells her ability "I'm ok" If you ask a man he oversells "I'm the GOAT". Also and this is something younger guys usually dont figure out until later in life. There is no law that says men HAVE to be the ones to approach. The reason why guys do is are egos say if we dont another man will. As you get older you'll hopefully figure out is the trick is to create so much value in yourself that women will approach you.
completely agree
i got over myself within like 1 year and a half
CHRIST humbled me
thank GOD
I was getting ego headed just like these girls
but im just a regular guy
just like everyone else
the women are just admitting they are prostitutes just read it for yourself scroll down
in some ways ya, men only get flashy cars and nice houses to get women. A woman gets herself flashy cars and a nice house to show off solely for herself.
Of course they have. Look at the way they groom themselves, always take 10yrs to get ready. I can grab me coat and go!. I will say I'm attracted to girls that take care of themselves.
There are equal numbers of men and women with overly inflated egos. They just manifest in different ways. But anyone who says men are more egotistical is a blind fool.
Generally men have bigger egos then women but not by far.
that's hard to say lol. there's a fair share of egotism from both the genders
It's jus a fact, many guys don't even feel worthy enough of a girlfriend... But all girls feel worthy of love, infact most of them have high standards and only date 7/10 and above
I disagree anyone can be full of themselves no matter what gender.
Depends on the type of women you're looking at. Men can have big egos too.
Most women think they are 10s or worth it, prize etc. No question really 😗
Well, i think - yes. They are more affected when they were humbled by another person than men.
It varies from person to person.. you can't lump everyone in the same barrel.
Women in general have a bigger sense of identity and group identity.
People with more options have bigger egos. Older women tend to have it less and are more friendly than younger girls who have countless options irrespective of their looks.
The simple answer is that it has nothing to do with a specific gender
well you would to if you were hot on all the time by random strangers :)
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