In your opinion as a man, are girls today just ungrateful? Why or why not?
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I know a few women who are grateful for and respectful toward men, but most women I know are neither, including my mom, and as a consequence my sisters. All three are very entitled and ungrateful toward my dad (and men in general) even though he has always worked his ass off for them and treats them very well.
I have not heard a word from anyone in my family about father's day this weekend even though we as a family always make a big deal about mother's day. They usually just say something like "but every day is father' day so why bother", and my dad has just gotten used to not celebrating it. I'm taking him on a hike tomorrow so we can at least spend some time having fun together.
It seems it's unfashionable for women these days to show any respect or gratitude toward men, whether it be the men in their lives or the male gender in general. I blame feminism and the media mostly for that.
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To your update, I think women should be grateful (and actually not be afraid to show their gratitude) for all the good men in their lives and all the countless good things they do. Society has no problem honoring and showing gratitude for females. It's shouldn't be any mystery how to do the same for men.
Many, if not the majority, of first-world girls and women are super ungrateful in my opinion, yes. They act all "strong and independent" and yet, want male police officers protecting them at all times, and sanitation workers, construction, and moving guys to do all the heavy sh*t for them, at the same time.
I honestly wish we could take all the feminists in First World, Western society and exchange them for an equal number of women living in places like Saudi Arabia, Syria, or North Korea. Let them see what an ACTUAL "patriarchy" looks like and witness the loudest girls get beheaded in front of them, if they try to b*tch over there, like they do here.
Wish we could exchange all the ungrateful woke assholes for grateful civilians living in these awful places.
I don't say thank you for the bare minimum, and I think guys should learn to go above the normal if it's for a girl they really like. If they don't go above the bar that's set I believe they aren't interested therefore aren't worth my time, and there is no shame in knowing my worth. My mom's told me since I was a little girl that I deserved to feel loved, wanted, and like a queen. If the man made me feel like that then I should make him feel like a king in return but until I got what I deserved I shouldn't waist my time.
Yeah , ur mom taught u that u deserved to be loved and everything but that's the same for guys too , it's 2023 now , women can take the first step. If women don't take the first step and keep acting entitled then yeah , humanity is really doomed cus guys would not entertain that , unless they r desperate or completely given up on finding a decent woman
It depends. A lot of men kind of have the victim complex and want to be the good guy, even if that means being used. I guess, as a woman I wouldn't dare to be ungrateful or disrespectful to a man who holds himself in high self esteem.
For ex, whenever my crush texts, I drop other guys I'm talking to. Now, there are two or three guys I know that actually wait on me! While I think it is sweet, I'm not their girlfriend, they don't need to be that nice, it's excessive and makes the woman see you as less valuable.
For the most part yes sorry to say , I canāt really put my finger on it , I blame a lot of it on social media , it seems Girlās have become more selfish and never really satisfied with what they have , most girls think grass is greener on the other side , if she has a nice guy she eventually wants a bad guy if she has a bad guy she eventually wants a nice guy , Girlās seem to always want what they donāt have , Girlās barely put themselves in their partners shoes , itās her way or no way , She will tell her man not to do certain things to appease her , if he stops for her she will eventually turn around and start doing the things she told her man not to do , when he gets upset and confronts her on it she automatically says to him that he is insecure and controlling , she never looks at herself as being controlling. She will withhold intimacy affection until she gets her way and make him feel like a pile of shit , Most girls today are the reason divorce rates are high because girlās are never satisfied why so many men do not want to get married anymore because Girls are always favored in courts and the guy that worked his ass off to provide for her is shit on when she decides to be selfish and tells her man he is insecure and controlling, Most females are straight up vicious these days and sadly canāt be trusted
That really depends doesn't it? I would say my ex was ungrateful. But that was back when we were having issues.
I would say it is hard to claim a woman is ungrateful if a man isn't a provider. A man has to be providing stability and living up to his financial obligations in a relationship. But it is so much harder to do in this kind of society, where we have stripped the average man of the ability to be the sole provider for a family. Then we have encouraged women to abandon the traditional role of being care-giver, educators, and homemakers.
And the funny thing is we blame feminism, politics, and the "government" when we as a society choose this nonsense.
So it becomes a much more complex situation. My ex takes care of her man now. She is the primary provider for their family. Perhaps it is he who is ungrateful, since his job is to cook and clean.
I can speak inly from my personal experience and I say it depends on the relationship you have with girls. I have girls that are my dear friends that are super grateful and we comfort and support mutually. On the other hand, almost ALL girls I dated were super ungrateful. They had very high expectations from me and when I couldnāt support it, they disappeared and rejected me. Probably it is a cultural heritage since where I live in is a traditionalist country. Thereās a diffused ancient mentality, according to which man has to be a servant / chevalier but has to be also dominant and experienced, is they didnāt found all this in me and showed me disappointment and ungratefulness despite me being helpful and available.
Well the worst ones get the most attention and no one pays attention to the good ones, just like guys, seems like every one today is to obsessed with drama and have toxic ideas of what counts as exciting or "not boring".
I see tons of videos of golddigger girlfriends. Bad moms, that's, cheating women, users and abusers.
But we have to realize nobody is filming or sharing videos of decent, nice women with their heads on straight, normal expectations and actually take responsibility, so of course what we veiw is biased.
I'm going to say yes... at least here in America since I moved here. They don't give a flying fuck about a man's feelings here. Just being real. You can't do shit right, have to accept all sorts of bad behavior or else you're not the caring type of guy, and put up with shit... the type of shit where if you just changed the language of male and female around even other females would say that shit is fucked up. It's a loose-loose game here in the west for sure. She can take you for half your shit even if you're not married and if you have beef with it... be prepared to deal not just with her and her bitch friends... any beta blue-pilled bitch of a guy will try to go at your throat as well.
Sorry about sounding crude there... it is what it is. I'm not a fan of how things have been playing out for dudes in the west lately.
Social media has made women nasty, selfish, narcissistic and ungrateful. I refer the interested reader to any of the following youtube channels who expand on this thesis. Entrepreneurs in cars, Sandman, Coach Red Pill, and many more. Guys, if you are dating a woman, first understand what being red pill aware means. Next, check to see if she is on social media of any kind (fb, twitter, snapchat, instagram, etc). Ask her to get off of social media if she wants to date you. She will refuse and you will drop her. If she agrees to leave social media behind (and you verify), there may be hope for a relationship.
Let me say this. DEPENDS ON THE WOMAN!!! Some women are yes and entitled too. While others are not and are super appreciative and even feels bad sometimes and tries to return favors even when you did not expect them to.
Women are ungratefull of themselfs which trickles off on others as well. Women have no moral compas of they're spitual purpose in life as well as they're spiritual value. Kindness has evaporated in they're lifes as well. No GOD in they're sky either. So they klique with the flesh mafia of females instead (feminist ) or Witchcraft as its true meaning. Just how stupid is this. If they ever relized they're accual purpose and value , that barage of bs they're so busy infiltrating , would be over yesterday.
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When I have something to be grateful for, I am. I am grateful for everything my male sub (alternative lifestyle dynamic) does for me, and when he does a good job I make sure he is rewarded appropriately according to our arrangement, and then some.
That being said, I think men should generally do more than they do (I've seen friends date some real POSs) and I think generally many women should be more grateful as well (I've spent $500 on a date trip with a girlfriend and basically got ignored the whole time)...
I suppose my point is communication and understanding of expectations (like I have with my mansub) is VERY helpful and that we should all step it up a little with our partners.
Some for sure as they expect a lot of guys and feel entitled to getting it. I think is the energy so to say that they wanna do everything in their power to be independent and to achieve everything on their own that away the expectation in guys grows a lot. I think it's a question of upbringing and character because there are still women that are different and show that they cherish the effort one makes.
Sorry that was wrong articulation of me what I actually tried to say was that women sometimes seem ungrateful to guys is that because modern women focus so much on their independency and figuring everything for themselves that guys feel like a small gift or something similar wouldnĀ“t make much on of an impact on her heart because she doesnĀ“t say it clearly. I think should be expecting from guys to deliver in a relationship at least the same amount as they do themselves in terms of hygiene, social skills and acts of kindness. I left financial or expensive gifts out because the wage level will probably turn in the future since more women already have an academic education they will make more than guys.
Yes and No --- Gratefulness is a state of awareness of situations and is an individual judgement call of the benefits and liabilities. It depends on the situation and the female's/male's personality. In a long term relationship, the partner can predict with some level of confidence the partner's reaction. I call that "trust". Both males and females are emotionally wired, to react in predictable ways. If that reaction is not appreciated. Then "trust" is lost. Some level of l steadfastness, constancy, or stability is needed.
Yes and no. I think that women today need to decide what exactly it is they want out of men and voice their opinions because guys are trying. The way the world is, everyone's confused right now.
So I do think women take men for granted and are u greatful but I sometimes wonder if it's rooted in men not really understanding what women want.
I feel lucky that most of the girls I have meet have been good enough with me. They have helped me in my project and other things. There have been girls who have been ungrateful and full of attitude. Of what I don't know a thing. But surely did have attitude of some kind.
Grateful for what she has already received. Like the beauty or the brains. Everyone should be grateful of that. But showing attitude based on that? Nope.
Don't show attitude based on the things that are not in your control and you have done nothing to achieve them. Maintaining a body does not come under efforts. It is was everybody should do.
Women are inherently are like magnets to which men inadvertently get attracted to. It is a common courtesy to be thankful for receiving help. But some women, feel that it is their right to get help without returning any kind of appreciation in return. That is wrong.
You are not entitled. If men want, they can become as insensitive as a rock itself. In fact this is already happening. To avoid the indirect insults, the figurative things under-estimations, men are just not interacting with women. This level of mistrust is not good, even in short term and long term.
I would say so... lots of really bad, resentful, angry, entitled attitudes. Our society breeds a complete lack of self awareness about that sort of thing and it panders to women, so I can't blame women for feeling and acting the way that they do, generally speaking.
Yes! They are ungrateful, entitled, impatient, and rude. But modern femininity use words like, assertive, empowered, and equality. They never want to earn, crest or build. They want to take and manage the work and property of someone else. Itās sad. Men are already giving up. They know they will have a hard time winning. Hence that is why men are going to college in fewer numbers and graduating even less. There is a crisis with are young men. And itās created by society and feminists.
Many of them can be, will be, and are always ungrateful.
While on the other hand, many are grateful.
Plenty of things to look at to determine ungratefulness. Like their attitude, their stance on compromising, the willingness and effort they put in, and how they spend their time with a particular someone.
I don't think they're ungrateful buttttt, i do wish that once girls entered a relationship, they remembered they're now with someone else.
Have you ever seen "The Wedding Singer". I don't want to give the ending of the movie away if you haven't or anybody else hasn't but, like, I just would like women to understand that once they've entered a relationship, it shouldn't be "just about them". That men, have wants too. Why is that so hard to respect/understand?
many are. believe a lot of it has to do with media, especially cheap tv programs, that constantly push the idea that it's ok - even condoned - for gals to take others for granted, treat them like crap and take as many material goods as they can. it may work once or twice, but it doesn't take long for the word to get around.
Hell yes they are. Took me 10 years just to finally find a girl I'm dating who was. not even counting all the ones I didn't date that other guys have dealt with. Girls these days grew up being daddy's princess and they expect every man to treat them that way too when they don't put in any effort whatsoever. And they're entitled as hell too
I think women today are beyond ungrateful. Modern women are utterly oblivious and clueless about how men make the world work. Women seem to think that all the dangerous, dirty, difficult, and arduous jobs done by men, just magically get done.
I don't know, I think more people are ungrateful these days just in general, women AND men. Still some good'uns out there though. Usually they're the ones living life with their eyes and ears, instead of through a phone screen.
Sometimes they areā¦a BBN little femininity and common sense can get one quite farā¦ like stupid or clueless rather than ungrateful maybe 🤷🏻āāļø🤷🏻āāļø
Hmm hmm.. those are interesting observations. What does it mean to react like a man? As a matter of fact I think I was in a situation in which I felt I 'reacted like a man' but I'm curious to know what that means to u
A man that expects a woman to be grateful is a fool. Women will use men for their needs. Once the man is no longer useful she will cut you out and move on.
Well, so far, not a SINGLE ONE OF THEM has EVER thanked me for shoving sperm inside their pussies! After all the hard work I did to put it there!! I should at LEAST get a cookie!!
Look at what we all have in our lives. We've achieved an economic miracle. But no, women must bitch and whine about oppression and what horrible victims they are. Because this is giving them all their power. Yes, women have become ungrateful bitches.
No, definitely not. I just think Women today realise their worth a lot more than previously. They value themselves and their time and act accordingly. Definitely far from ungrateful in my experience
Depends on the person. But frankly no. If you make something for a woman yourself she will love it no matter the quality. Unless it's obvious no effort was put into it. Men don't get that way about stuff.
I can't speak for all girls but all of the girls i know, except my 3 daughters, are. they always say thank you (the youngest only knows like 3 other words so...) Its partially my fault. i give so much that i guess it becomes expected.
I think they are. They expect things from the guy and even if those things a are expected or if you do the same thing for somebody over and over and over people don't realize how powerful a simple thank you is or a simple I'd appreciate you
American girls: yes. Other girls not so much. Other countries still have girls that want actual equality in a relationship. Which is why a lot of guys are choosing to date beyond borders.
It is not that they are ungrateful. It is only that they are not designed to be grateful. Their nature is to take what is offered from their parents or mate because they deserve it.
80% of them. And I'm saying that because I have 2 sisters, had a lot of chick friends in high school, 2 daughters, and wife. I only had 2 girls in my life that weren't ungrateful.
Whoa! So how do your wife and daughters do on gratefulness? I guess since only two total pass the bar, at least one of them is coming up short--possibly more!
@BoobMan when u have kids and a wife you'll find out. They aren't ever satisfied. Just think of the girls or women you know. Count the ones that are happy with the way they are.
That's cool that your stepdaughter is grateful at least. Sad you can't say the same about your actual daughter. A bit mysterious that you don't know who the second one is.
They feel entitled and at the same time victimized.
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Ungrateful for? Or how so? I think women are becoming increasingly selfish and picky, thanks to the society we live in, and guys in general and how many treat them. And that's not a good thing.
They are ignorant, plane and simple. Everyone is so absorbed in what they want and their priorities they don't care if they make someone's life hell who is trying to co exist with them
I think there's an equal line with both men an women who can be ungrateful to each other which is why we try to be around and with one once that are greatful
A bit, you can't really blame them when they get put on a pedestal so much. Luckily most women I know are pretty chill.
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Ungrateful, entitled, hypocritical, narcissistic... this is 100% men's fault. Simp culture. However, with so many awful women, it makes it a lot easier to find and appreciate the good women.
Oh some times in my experience and in the worst way... It's actually hard to call it ungrateful at this point but better yet they're more delusional or oblivious. 🤣
I think women should be grateful for all the things men do behind the scenes every day to make the lives of women and children comfortable and even possible. Virtually every critical role on Earth is filled by men whose job it is to keep the world spinning. That's why almost all workplace injuries and deaths are men. Even if women could have children without the need for men, the human race would literally go extinct without men doing what they do to make the world a livable place. Men get no appreciation or respect for what they do.
Women should also be grateful for all the good men in this world who are just good people and make the world a better place. In recent years all the focus from society in general, and women in particular, has been on the minority of men who do bad things, with virtually no appreciation for the good things so many men do. Women show very little gratitude for that, which is one of the primary reasons men are so pissed off at women these days.
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