My question is based on an argument i had with a typical feminist who thinks that she can kick her husband out and invite anyone she can into the delivery room and denying the father to watch his baby coming out to the world...

My question is based on an argument i had with a typical feminist who thinks that she can kick her husband out and invite anyone she can into the delivery room and denying the father to watch his baby coming out to the world...

mhm i would allow the love of my life to watch. if i’m certain enough to allow him to impregnate me, im certain enough about our love, trust, and vulnerability. it’s not only my child, but his as well. him being there would make it all the better. i would have given him the trust and vulnerability of choosing him, allowing him to access my body, and mind - i clearly would have that need to have him there because of the trust and love i already have for him. it’s not one sided. he’s experiencing mental, emotional, spiritual things as well. and the love only grows stronger from witnessing your woman birth her and yours child which you created through ultimate trust and vulnerability
That's how a smart loving wife would answer!
THIS. This should be MHO.
@miaisapapaya744289. THIS ^^°°
Why do these women feel like they have the whole baby for their own? You won't have got that baby if not for the baby's dad. It's the dad's right to see his baby sprouting out, It was his seed after all. My dad chose not to see it because he didn't wanted to see his wife in pain and thought my mom would be uncomfortable. But he got to hold me first.
are you aware of how babies are made? plenty of single women have babies all on their own. Look at Lucy Liu. She had a baby and has no husband or spouse.
@John_Doesnt I'm aware of that type of pregnancies but the question here asks with the presence of husband, the biological dad.
how do you know who the father is? should everyone claiming to be the father be allowed in the room?
@John_Doesnt the question mentions that there is a known spouse.
you can't possibly know that without a DNA test, after the baby has be born. So nobody knows for sure who the father is.
@John_Doesnt Okay but I am talking about biological dad with legimate child. There is nothing similar in the post as what you stated.
@TonyMetal___86 Thanks for the MHG :)
@apulu_imback little wise girl who spoke words from gold 😊
Thank you :) by the way as you are the asker I really need your answer for the question this sir strikes me with. You are talking about biological dad who is the legal husband, right? see all the replies and you would understand.
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So legally it has been argued that mothers privacy rights, in regards to pregnancy are paramount to that of the fathers. According to a 2014 ruling, and they cited Roe vs Wade as setting presidency over the women's right. Because pregnant mothers do not need the fathers permission to get an abortion, therefore the father does not have any legal custody rights until after the birth of the child. But now that Roe vs. Wade has thrown out it really comes down to the states making that determination, and I am sure moving forward there will be challenges to this ruling.
Legally it might be permissible, but morally I would say it unethical of women, and most people would say that the father should be present. Let me tell you if a women tells her husband to get out, that is very telling of the future of the relationship and the type of mother she most likely to become. So men beware of these types.
Although I am supporter of "Her body, Her choice", I do think most of that comes at the expense of the man and empowers some women with a sense of moral supremacy. So I say, "HER body, HER choice", but then it should be "HIS money, His choice."
If you want the dad to be apart of the child's life, then he should pay, and get 50/50 say. If you do not want the father to be part of the child's life, then no money, and no say. "HER body, HER choice!" But as it is most these types of women get it both way, she makes all the calls in regard to the child, corrupts and interferes in the relationship between the father and child, and still gets the money... how convenient for these women, right?
My dear lady, your hypocrisy knows no bonds!
Birthing Moms Can Kick Dads Out of Delivery Room: N. J. Court - FindLaw
www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/courtside/birthing-moms-can-kick-dads-out-of-delivery-room-nj-court/
Thanks for this smart important comment 👍🏻
There are two different aspects to your question. Legally, yes she can ask him to wait outside. Any patient undergoing any kind of medical care or a medical procedure has the right to either have someone with them or not. You even have the right to kick medical staff off your case if you feel you’re not being treated right or respectfully, or if they are not acknowledging your rights and wishes for your own care. (That can start getting into the area of medical malpractice, though, which is not the focus here.)
HOWEVER, I believe you are asking about the moral aspect. Again, she can have whoever she wants in the room (or nobody at all) - her husband or boyfriend, her mother, father, or any other family. Usually it is limited to one person. I am sure that there are also still many cultures and religions around the world where the father is not permitted to be present during childbirth. In Western countries like mine, this is not the case.
If I were giving birth I would like for my husband to be there. However, I won’t force him to stay if he isn’t comfortable. So that is the opposite of this whole question - if he knows my wish, then what does HE want to do?
Thanks for your helpful insight...
Well no sane woman would want her husband to be out and if my future wife adores me to be by her side in the delivery room, i'll be more than happy to be present with her, i know that through all this, something beautiful and priceless is going to come out which will be a baby, nothing comes with ease 😌
MORALLY? If it is against the man's wishes, not a good thing.
Gentlemen, if your woman wants you out WITHOUT a solid/valid reason, then that's quite telling about how she feels about you and where your relationship can lead to. I would be very concerned in that regard. Imagine, you're not allowed to witness the birth of your own child that you'll be taking care of for almost the rest of your life, but you're still expected to take ALL the responsibilities of being a father...
Just because it is legal for the woman to ask the husband/father out, doesn't mean that it is morally the right choice to make. Why deny the father, who is most likely the one being the main provider and protector of the child & the mother being tossed out? Why can't he be there to help or at least be supporting the mother during birth?
I remember talking with my girlfriend about this and she INSISTED that I would be there to support her. She does not want me to leave her side.
PS: Of course that feminist is going to argue that a woman should be allowed to kick her husband out. She doesn't care about the moral aspect. She only cares about throwing jabs at men. Imagine having that type of person as the mother of your children. I'm already cringing at the thought...
I mean... a mother giving birth gets the ultimate say as to who is in the room with her. That being said, assuming her husband is the father of said baby... I want to know what he did that made her kick him out because I feel like the vast majority of women would want their partner in there with them.
A man's role in the delivery room is to be his wife/SO's advocate. He needs to support her and her wishes. Medical staff can be pushy and try to override the mother's wishes. So it's her man's job to make sure she gets the birthing experience she wants. He has to go to bat for her, if necessary. And if he's not doing that then I could see how a laboring mom would kick him out.
I imagine it's hard enough to give birth and then have to advocate for yourself also? That'd be his job and if he's slacking then I could see how that would be extremely disappointing and frustrating.
I kind of agree with you but my question is if she's allowed to kick him out, you gave me reasons, i'm not talking about reasons, i'm saying what if she chose not to have him in the delivery room and he wants to be in...
Then he doesn't get to be in the room. That's what I said in the first sentence. "A mother giving birth gets the ultimate say as to who is in the room with her." If she said he can't be in there then he can't be in there. Simple as that.
It depends.
My boyfriend wanted to be there for my delivery & so did my mom. Thankfully I got to have both of them in there, but I also knew my boyfriend was going to be ill or faint at some point during delivery.
I was right, he was holding my right leg & my mom had my hand. Next thing I know I hear him call my mom's name 3 times & he flew away into a chair because he almost fainted as our son was crowning. He looked white as a ghost when I got through with the contraction. He turned a little green when I had to get a sight episiotomy that required 7 stitches. My mom had to take his place holding my leg.
Delivery is not easy on the stomach to watch for a portion of the population. If the one giving birth knows their partner probably can't stomach the whole process, they have the right to say "you know what, babe, maybe you should wait outside". But that is a private decision between the parties involved.
Well said and that's how a respectful lady acts, i hope that you and your love will raise your baby with passion and happiness 😊
We're doing good so far, I think. But it's easy when the baby isn't yet getting into things 😂
Well the baby is a big responsibility but a beautiful one, he/she adds a taste to the family hehe...
If i was married, my wife will be a housewife so when the baby comes to this world, i'll be the 2nd baby when i return home from work and she have to deal with us both, the moma always have good games 🤣🤣
As the mom, the minute he gets home I leave for an hour or so so I can get a break. You don't understand how taxing it is on the primary caregiver when they are the stay at home parent. I love my son, but ffs if I didn't have time to myself to recharge bad things would be happening in my relationship.
Why not spending happy time all together, i mean if your man is working hars outside while you're a stay at home mom comfortable inside the house, he gets back and would love to spend his time with his family, he didn'y say i'd leave to have my own time, so why would you want to have your own time alone, do you understand what i mean?
Cause when a wife asks for an alone time than he will start to ask for an alone time too...
I understand that sometimes a individual needs his/her own time but shouldn't be when the man arrives at home...
He's coming back home to relax and enjoy his time with his family and not to take another shift!
Well, they weren't married, but when my daughter had my grandson, she needed an emergency c-section and they told her she could have one person with her and she picked me not my grandson's Dad.. but then she was scared and probably wanted someone she knew would be supportive/comforting unlike the dad who kept disappearing from the hospital (think was getting high with his friends🙄) while my daughter's blood pressure was soaring and high blood sugars) she had preeclampsia... Sometimes hubby/baby daddy might not be the best person to have in the delivery room
This is a good excuse to kick him out, but kicking who out? Since he's not even present there 😍🤣
Miss brains muffins, i'm asking if she can kick him out without a reason just because she doesn't want him in for no reason or to just show that she have the power to not allow him see this important occasion...
If it's a good marriage, a good man, I don't think a woman would do that, well none I know would..
True, in contraty she desires and wishes him to be all the time with her 😌
After all i must learn how to become doctor so that i'll be the one who takes the baby out and run away 😈
I'll use my stone age tools 👹
Oh my God.. Talking like that, could you really blame her if she kicks you out🤣🤣
She won't kick me out cause i'll be the doctor in disguise 😁
After taking the baby out, i'll reveal myself and the mother will be in shock 🤯
I'll laugh an evil laugh and run away with the baby and disappears in thin air 😈
No one will ever find the mad caveman doctor and the baby anymore 👹 HAHAHA
The sponge will be waiting for me so she turns the baby's head into a spongy forehead 💆🏼♀️
Hey, I made two beautiful babies and one gave me a beautiful well handsome grandson
Do they all have spongy big foreheads? 😁
Har har... They all have "beauty" and "brains" just like me😁🤓
I doubt it, no one have brains and unchanged beauty like the queen of muffins 😁
Totally unacceptable! These feminists have ruined so many things for people because of their unrealistic and snooty ways.
Sure, it's a choice who you want in the delivery room, when You're the Father of the baby you can say what they say:
"My body, my choice and I chose to be right there when the baby is born. My body made the baby, so it's not only what you decide that counts."
Her Friend can see the baby after it's born.
Stand up for yourself on this one. Afterall, it is a once in a lifetime chance to see a child that you helped to make come un to the world. Of course you want to be right there for that.
How can you stand to be with a modern day feminist is beyond me. I am just the opposite of them.
The best to you on this. I hope it turns out in your favor.
Sage🌹
Miss sage i guess you know my behavior and who i am and for sure i'm not this type of guys, it was just a hypothetical question because inhad an argument with a gag radical feminazi who said that she such things are allowed so i decided to ask about thia subject but if it happens to me i'll bring rhe hospital down and actually she won't even dare to say such thing to me and for sure i wouldn't be married to such crazy karen feminazi 😂
As a former public safety member for a public hospital, yes she can kick you out. She can chuck everybody she wants out except for a qualified practitioner of relevant medicine. Should she be able to kick the father out? Oof, that’s a good one. I’ve been in situations where the father tried to kill the baby and she knew that was coming, so that’s an argument for the ability to kick out the father. That is so rare that I would argue it should be handled on a case by case basis as a final answer. If there exist a clear and present danger to mother or baby or staff, then of course the threat should be removed or prevented from access. If the father is not a clear and present danger to mother or child or staff, he should be allowed to see the baby that he is half of.
@Sixgunsound good answer and not because she's just a woman and carrying the baby gives her the power to kick him out 😏
When you say "Allowed" I think the answer is yes. In the US at least, I assume a hospital will not allow anyone in the delivery room that the patient does not want to be present. That comes under patient rights.
But whether or not she SHOULD exclude the father is an moral and relationship question.
As to the relationship, it seems to me that it will likely be damaged if the father wants to be present but the mother excludes him. So you have to decide whether or not you want to risk those consequences.
As to the moral question, that is open for debate. I can see both sides. For example, is the father expected to assume any financial responsibility for the child? If so, it seems to me that he has certain parental rights which may include the right to see the child's birth if he chooses. With rights come responsibilities. But with responsibilities also come rights.
Well said...
Very sensitive topic out here. I would personally want my husband to be right next to me during our child birth but I can also understand why some women wouldn't want their husbands to be there they'll be in a very vulnerable position and maybe some women are not that comfortable in showing that side tp their partners. However, it's also the husband's right to be present during their child birth. Lots of conversations need to be held before this day comes and before taking a final decision.
An answer which deserves an MHO...
In your example, what is the reason for the husband being kicked out? I don't know anyone in a loving relationship with their spouse that would kick them out unless there was a reason, and there can be for both the mother and hospital staff to kick a husband out of the room like he's being/saying abusive things, he's fighting with the family and making it difficult for staff to attend to the mother, he's violently ill or queasy, his actions are disrupting staff or he's being abusive to staff. Ultimately, the reality is, staff's goal is to bring a healthy baby into this world and if the husband is causing disruption or not allowing them to do their jobs, yes absolutely he or she can kick him out.
In such cases you're totally right, i was saying that she can kick him out just cause she can, cause she the woman and she's holding the baby 😂
As you have said, no sane wife would ask her husband to get out, in contrary, she wants him in at any cost!
Absolutely. She can have whoever she wants in the delivery room. It's her choice. I'd he's being a dick she has every right not to put herself in a vulnerable state infront of him.
Of course it would be morally wrong and all kinds of fucked if they were in a loving relationship.
Miss doozy can you make up your mind? You said 1st absolutely than you said that it's moraly wrong and totally f*cked up, so which one?
I guess that you already know my opinion, i don't care about what she says, if i want to stay than i'll stay and no one is allowed to enter other than me!
It's a hypothetical opinion cause i'm sure that my future housewife will do anything to make me stay with her in the delivery room and i'll be more than happy to stay with her and support her 😌
If she wants me out and explained to me why and she convinces me with respect and love than i'll get out but i'll be sad cause i like to be present in such occasions...
I literally explained, pretty clearly...
I said if he's being a dick then she has every right not to have him in the room.
If they're happily married/together and she doesn't want him in there for some random reason then I think that is a little strange.
there's a difference between morality and legality. Apparently you're 2 brain cells can't handle that
@John_Doesnt who said there wasn't a difference? Not me. So don't know what you're on about.
@John_Doesnt also if you're going to talk about a persons lack of braincells use the correct spelling of "your"
a grammar nazi? nice. Also, i was taking to the OP
@John_Doesnt you were literally being an intelligence nazi. Don't come at me.
do you even know what a nazi is?
@John_Doesnt what a stupid fucking question. Just stop being a dick ok
@Smashingdoozy miss doozy you know my opinion cause it was clear what i said but thanks for sharing
Yes, apparently in ‘85 when I was coming out, my dad was drunk and being annoying so my mom had him leave! My godmother, grandma, and mom’s cousins saw me come out, but not my drunk dad. That in itself is weird bc I wouldn’t want other family members watching me give birth, only my husband. But, my mom is a little different I guess.
Well since your dad was drunk and not worthy enough to be a man or a dad, he lost his right to see you coming to this world...
A dad shoud be excited, focused and have nothing to on the delivery day other than being there for his wife and new coming baby 😌
Oh i'm sorry! Too bad he died like that, we only live once, why not living it in the right way, he had a wife, a daughter "a family" what more can a person asks for, maybe if he was still married enjoying his life with his wife and daughter, he would be happy and maybe didn't had a heart attack and his daughter would of had dad whom she considers as her hero...
Too bad that such guys do not have value for theirs lives and just dies silently like that...
That's good, all you can do to him now is praying so that god forgives him and grant him the eternal life in heaven...
so if the dad is drunk then the op admitted the woman should have the choice to abort?
@John_Doesnt ugh this was 1985 and yea there were junkies and potheads, but I think this generation is worse. Crackheads were relevant in my childhood and many smoked weed, but people weren’t so dumb like today. They’re stressing abortion rights now bc so many drugged up zombies. Udk wut they’re fucked up on either.
so it's okay to abort in 1985?
@John_Doesnt They did it, not as much, but it was frowned upon.
should be more so we can save the planet
I think the wife should be allowed. Her husband might be hyperemotional and a distraction to her and the medical staff. I remember the days when the husband wasn't allowed in the delivery room unless it was documented that he had special training.
You're mentioning some clear reasons and not because she's just a woman and carrying the baby which gives her the power to kick her husband out just cause she can hehe
If he is a loving and caring guy and the mother is not very insecure about being seen in that vulnerable position and they are in a happy and healthy relationship where the woman is comfortable and would love to rely on her man this will not happen
Women only act defensive if they feel like the "man" is in some way shape or form either making her feel unsafe or insecure. For example if the relationship is toxic and some abuse is going on behind the scenes, or if the woman has some insecurities or traumas related to being seen in a vulnerable position.
Then... leaving her alone is probably best for you, her and the baby.
True, these are good reasons but these feminazis thinks that they can kick him out just because they to show off that they got authority and that they are superior...
And legally, they can. He has no RIGHT to be there, it is a priveledge
@LindsayR07 and what about you? Would you want him to be in or out?
As for me it's my right wether they accept it or not, the only person who can convince to get out will by my future housewife if there was some harsh reasons and asked me in a respectful polite way but still i'll be waiting outside sad!
No one dares to enter other than me so if i'm out than no one will be in except ofc the medical staff!
Yeah, if he is getting on my nerves and behaving out of line while I'm in pain and pushing out a fucking baby out of my vagina... I would kick him out too but I assume that a good father and partner wouldn't be an asshole in that moment, so everything good
Well you have a good reason there and not kicking him out just because you can...
Thanks for sharing...
Great question. I work in a hospital as a security officer. The laws involved, she can choose who she wants by her side or not as a patient. If she doesn't want someone in the delivery room, then me and my officer buddies will show up and force that person out.
If the husband is a good man, not causing any havok in the hospital, and the wife doesn't want him in there... That's fucked up of her... But as a patient she can choose who she wants. Hopefully a good husband never experiences that, would be sad.
Well it’s a pretty shitty thing to do to the father.
With that said she is going through deep pain and stress of delivering a kid. Along with the surging hormones she’s bound to say or even do something extremely bitchy or nasty in the moment.
If she really insisted on kicking the dad out I guess she can have her way. But she better give him a true and heart felt apology later when she’s all recovered. If she doesn’t that a huge red flag right there. Giant one.
Well said... no sane woman does such thing, in contrary she must be very happy if he's present on her side...
Trust me I hate modern feminism with a passion. However women do have my full sympathy when it comes to getting pregnant and delivering a kid. That’s got to be huge burden. So I give pregnant women some leeway especially when delivering.
But it’s a temporary state for her. How she acts later dictates everything. Any sane woman would apologize (without him having to bring it up).
Also I think some guys might not even feel comfortable being present for all of that. Seeing their wife in pain and stress like that. There was a time decades ago they kept the fathers in the waiting rooms. I wonder how she would react if he said he felt extremely uncomfortable and didn’t want to witness the delivery (but she wanted him there). Could she forgive him later if he apologized? I dunno.
I think that the couple should have a discussion about this before having a baby...
Sometimes we must do things that we don't usually do just for the sake of love and if it makes the other happy but only if he/she deserves it...
And that’s the right way to handle it.
Also not all couples are married or even dating while the woman is pregnant. I mean if the father knocks the girl up, leaves and then shows up last second when his kid is being delivered then he really doesn’t have a leg to stand on. In that scenario I wouldn’t blame the mother for kicking him out.
But if they are in a steady relationship/married and she suddenly doesn’t want him in the room it’s a shitty thing to do. BUT she is in compromised physical/emotional state. While women often demand (and don’t deserve) leeway for other unfair crap I have to make a big exception for delivering a child. But again after she recovers she better make amends and talk/apologize about it. If she doesn’t then she has little or no respect for him. Complete dealbreaker for a relationship (although it sucks their both parents now)
Very true!
Bit why would you? The only reason I tell him to leave is if he's going to pass out or throw up. Otherwise you should want tour husband to be there, you should want him to see the birth of his child. You dont create a baby alone, I just find that weird. My husband will be there and I will squeeze his hand lol
Here's a real respectful lady talking 😌
That's how a real wife should be!
Well if he was of no help and puked on me during the process i'd put him in the corjer not kick him put. My brother in law passed out when my sister gave birth to my nephew, we put him s chair dude missed the whole thing after he saw the head i told him not to look.
Well in such cases for sure the man should stay out by himself but he can be with his wife without having to look what'a happening down there...
Also a real man shouldn't be that weak cause it's his baby coming out to this world and should be able to handle the things that he usually doesn't...
Hmm. I guess from a legal standpoint - in modern 1st world countries - she can because she's considered the patient and if she's conscious she can limit visitors. But I bet she's not kicking out access to his bank account...
The guy in this scenario picked the wrong woman to impregnante/wife.
If 1st world countries have such laws than i doubt that they are 1st world countries 😂
Very true and that's what i meant!
If she does that, he should leave, change his house, car, etc. into his parents' name and cancel all of their credit cards so she gets nothing when he divorces her. Have the papers served to her while she is still at the hospital. She deserves it.
Well said, that's what a real man does!
That is sick, and if you think that the divorce courts will look sympathetically on a man who divorced his wife while she was in labor, well I got news for you, you are very very wrong. You are going to give her at least half your assets probably a lot more and if you don't then you can rant to your cellmate about how angry you are at your ex for kicking you out of the delivery room. See if he cares.
You will see your kid soon enough if you are the father, how is it so much to ask to accomodate your wife's desire for you not to see her like that. Instead of concentrating on your pride, try and think about all the times that you have gotten angry at people without them having deserved it, but for which they forgave you.
So many pathetic answers by the women here. Very telling about the maturity, the mentality, and morality that they have. Women currently ask where all the good men are. Well, they're gone from your disgusting presence because of the way you women are these days. No man with a right mind would be around you.
The cancer of feminism 😄
You have to be invited into the delivery room and those deliveries do get intense so they may have him kicked out even if she doesn’t ask for him to be kicked out if he is causing trouble. I doubt he would even be invited in the first place if he was gonna get kicked out.
We are always giving reasonable excuses but that's not the deal!
The thing is that there is no reason, it's just a show off demonstration...
Just to show that women have power!
Normally I would say that’s possible but I doubt that’s a factor when someone is in labor. It would be like demanding your wife leave the room while you get a catheter inserted.
Being in the delivery room is a privilege, not a right.
If the wife doesn't want him there then for patient care medic staff will ABSOLUTELY let her kick him out.
Childbirth is a highly stressful experience - my wife almost died giving birth - and the patient's wellbeing is paramount. Your desire does not trump her right to privacy. My son was delivered and the problems started so instead of cutting the cord he was handed to me wrapped as her blood pressure dropped to zero and the staff fought (successfully, thank God) to save her life.
A delivery theatre is no place for civilians when something goes wrong.
So again, yes - the mother is the patient, not your ego. Her consent to your presence can be revoked at any point.
I think its stupid she would do that if he wanted to be there, nevertheless, with a medical procedure she should have the right as a patient to feel safe and without stress in the medical room especially during a very stressful and painful procedure such as a child birth.
If she feels her husband is causing her stress or making her uncomfortable then he should be kicked out.
You got a point there but not because she can do it and show off that she have authority and that she is a superior gender while he's a piece of trash...
She can do it for whatever reason she feels like it. She's the patient, not you.
During medical procedures some people just want their doctor and nurse there and you have to respect that.
When I was a teen and the doctor was checking out my penis and I had to drop my pants, I didn't want my mom and sister in the room, that doesn't mean I don't love my mom or my sister. I just didn't want them there to see me in that situation, but my mom obviously didn't care as she is the woman who brought me into this world.
You just have to honor some people are just different especially when it comes to medical sensitive stuff.
And men throughout history were never in the room as their wife gave birth. They saw the child once it was born.
You don't get the point, if you were asked with loved and respect and were convinced than no problem but not kicking you out just because she wants to prove that she's dominant and that she can treat you like garbage and will invite someone else other than you...
Understand now?
I understand question. I said it was stupid for that reason just for her being rude without need.
Nevertheless, your question was should she be allowed to kick her husband out the delivery room because she feels like it and the answer is yes even if it's because she wants to feel dominate or act like a b*&^% towards him etc.
As I told you she's the patient, not you. You nor anyone else has a right to be there except doctors and medical professionals.
Okay when a woman does that to her husband who is a good man, would you still have respect for such woman?
Being rude to him needlessly, no especially if he wanted to be there.
Personally, I don't care to be there at all anyways unless she ask me to be there for support.
Allowed? That means she has my permission? I dont "allow" my wife to do anything. Its her choice. Id respect her wish, but I would logically convince her why i should be there.
For what its worth, I received my kids when they were born. It is the one experience which, for a man, made me cry uncontrollably.
Well... I don't think it's fair because it takes 2 to make a baby. The father is just as entitled as the mother.
Thanks princess rapunzel for your smart answer as always, if there was a 3rd mho, i'll give it to you 😊
I dont see why they would want to, it seems like a pretty shitty thing to do. If your wife did that, maybe you should rethink things lmao.
Only time I could see it is if the dad was like drunk or not a good person. If she had a legit reason, but if he was her loving husband and about to be a loving father, why. Ig it all depends on the situation.
Well it's a general question and not my personal situation which will never be like that...
Yes she is. That choice would be protected under HIPPA and doctor patient confidentiality. She is the patient and has the right to have anyone she does not want present during her delivery removed from the room... doctors prohibited fathers in the labor and delivery room for a long time regardless of weather or not the woman wanted him there.
Okay, it was the hospital or doctors rules but not the wife's rule!
Why would it bother you if your husband was in?
Tough answer but believe those period things and empowerment won't work with real men like me...
If i want to stay i'll stay and if i want to leave i'll leave, no matter what she says i don't listen, i do what i choose to do, period 😏
Been there done that, your wishes are lame and god won't listen to little demons like you...
Wishing me all the bad things just because i'm a good man whom you will never have in your dreams hehe
I was present in the delivery room and no one even dares to tell me why i'm in...
The mother of my child was more than happy because she saw a real man by her side who held his full responsibility, i helped in everything and the delivery ended, i gave chocolates to all the medical staff and the nurse who took to shower my baby, i gave her money as a sign of gratitude and when the mother of my baby went back to her room in the hospital the celebration began...
And i hope that you suffer the consequences if someday you did something like that to a man without any reason
If it's a C-section than nope he won't be there cause it's a surgery, i'm talking about a normal delivery...
These laws are nothing compared to morals and rights between a married couple...
What is the red flag that you saw in me? You're seeing a lot of wrong things and i'm sure that this red flag one of them 😏
That's what i'm talking about, you kept fighting me and in the end you told me that i'm right in a way or another...
A sane woman would never do such thing to a good husband...
Some men are good while their wives are bad and that's why in my question i focused on the bad wife who might act like that...
But still she can't tell me to leave if there was no harsh reason, also if she wants me to leave she must convince me why and tell me wjth respect!
Sometimes a person should not rely on what rights does they have especially between a husband and a wife, it's bad when one of them acts like that!
It won't be like that if the wife uses such rights against her husband for no reason just because she can...
My discussion with you is over, you have your opinion and i have mine, none will change, so that's it... bye
A fact where you are and not where i am
You think that i'm someone bad but when you grow up, you will wish to find someone like me and you will forget all your bullsh*t rights cause these rights won't make you happy if you intend to use them for show off and to say that you have power!
No I think that you are power hungry and feel like you have the right violate the wishes of your wife and her autonomy including her right to doctor patient confidentiality. That’s fucked up, and absolutely pathetic. If you want a companion you can control then you would be better served by a dog, not a partner.
It seems that your a little girl who wants to have fun and i have no time for you...
I don't even know why i'm still replying on you...
When you mature enough come back to talk to me!
People like me are the reason you're alive now 😂
Anyways from now on, you can continue replying on yourself cause that's the last reply i'm typing for you in this thread...
Find someone to play with if your so bored!
Of course she can kick him out. NOBODY has a right to be in the room with any medical procedure except the doctors and/or other necessary staff to perform the procedure. All medical procedures are private unless the patient gives explicit permission otherwise.
I know there has been a trend for husbands to be in the delivery room, but more and more doctors are advising against it.
Now that's another thing and ain't related to the reason that she can kick her husband out just cause she can!
Yes, a woman has the right to endure the trauma of childbirth in privacy just like any adult has the right to undergo medical care without witnesses.
The one experiencing the medical treatment has a right to privacy.
The one who is mad about not being allowed in the room is merely entitled, bitter and has no sense of consideration.
Now, imagine your vagina is tearing into your butthole and you are also shitting yourself.
Would you feel comfortable having your husband staring at that?
I wouldn’t. It would scar me for life to know he saw that and I would never het over it.
If he wanted to support me and really does love me, he would respect my wish to be alone for that.
Thats my exact reason I personally wouldn't want my boyfriend to be there. That doesn't mean him wanting to be there makes him a bad person though. I’d be suspicious if he had no problem with NOT seeing the birth of his own child and if he didn't wanna be there to support me. You were being very mean about the dad wanting to be a dad. Women have every right to deny the dad from seeing but dont villainies him for wanting to be present.
Re-read his question.
It translates to “women are feminist bitches for thinking they have the right to give birth in privacy sometimes right?”
He literally called her a feminist for wanting to be in control of who is in the room with her during childbirth.
Not only is it that unrelated to feminism, it’s completely batshit to try to make that connection.
The right to medical privacy > the desire to witness childbirth.
Read his other questions…
Find one without the word “feminist” in it.
Lmfao this man thinks that women doing, thinking or feeling anything he doesn’t personally agree with makes them a feminist.
@NotTacocaT6969 no matter how much you try to make my imagine dirty, people won't believe you because they think and will find out the truth about your claims!
I won't waste my time with you, i also don't actually care how you see or if you understand or not, i always say the truth and if my opinions bothers you, than you can always hit the block button and make yourself comfortable once and for all but if forgot that you're stalking me and seeing everything that i'm doing, that's what you have mentioned when you told her "see other questions and comments" no wonder your bothered from me and have all this time to stalk me 🤣🤣
@77five thanks for being nice...
If my wife asks me politely and convince me that she wants me out because she wants to be in privacy than i'll leave the room just for her and not because she can kick me out but for sure i'll tell her if she can change her mind so i stay in but id she insists than i'll leave but i'll be sad...
I don't care about anything or whatever happens, all i care about is to see her happy and to make sure that she's healthy and to see my baby coming to this world between us "the father and mother"...
@TonyMetal___86 my entire point was that you were only looking at one very selfish perspective of that situation and involving feminism for no reason.
Taking offense to your loved one’s desire for privacy is NOT healthy.
Whwn a wife loves her man from all her heart and does anything for him, she won't even talk to him in a disrespectful way, she prefers to cut her tongue if it's going to spit poison on her husband!
If she needs privacy, may i ask you for what? Can you convince me why she needs privacy? It's her husband not a stranger, also when she asks for privacy, it means she wants no one...
Not picking people and kicking her man out!
Also if she wants privacy and convinced her man to get out, he might get out but he will be sad not living these precious moments...
If a man ain't present with his wife in the delivery room, the wife would become sad and depressed and the 1st thing she will say is that he doesn't love and care about her... bla bla bla and if he wants to be on her side than she wants her privacy and ask him to get out...
No matter what a man does, he will be always accused by hatred and selfishness from such women...
@NotTacocaT6969
"Taking offense to your loved one’s desire for privacy is NOT healthy."
I don't really think you get the actual point. It is not about being disrespectful about one's privacy. It is about the moral aspect to why a woman who supposed to love her husband deny the husband the privilege of seeing his own child being born. Just because you have a legal right to do something, doesn't mean it is actually the right thing to do. Context is key. Like @TonyMetal___86 said, if a woman truly loves her man, she wants him to be there to (morally) SUPPORT her and make her feel like she isn't alone. My girlfriend talked with me about this and insisted that I would be there to support her.
If you truly don't want your husband there, than best thing is to communicate your concerns, ask for his understanding. And any good husband will respect that. But there are some women here answering the question as a means to practice their power over a man by kicking him out. Without actual valid reason. Which of course raises an eyebrow.
PS: It's not hard to sniff out the feminist from the non-feminist actually. Feminists talk in a certain way, preset arguments in a certain way whereas the non-feminists genreally tries to find a silverlining that benefits both sides. A feminist usually does not do this.
@TruthBringer thanks bro, you're a really smart man and for sure a real man, not because you're on my side, but because you are saying the truth the way it is and your explaining it wisely!
Anyways as you have said, when you read the answers of the women on this thread you will immdediatly notice who's the feminist and who's not!
I think if she's uncomfortable of you watching her have a baby, then that's totally fine, she can kick ya out.
But the thing you said that she'll invite other people like friends and stuff, that's weird.
That means you screwed up somewhere and she doesn't really love you.
I'm talking in general, it's not a personal case cause i'm not even married anymore 😏
If you want my personal answer, such things will never occur on me because my future wife will be a lot smarter than telling me such things, if i'm present in the delivery room, all she can do is smile and be happy that i'm there with her and nothing more, got the message? 😏
So ur trying to say that ur amazing and stuff?
It's not about being smart or stupid... It's about compatibility of character 🤦🏻♂️
And again if she acts kike that, that means tou screwed up somewhere and it's time to find out where.
Weird thing that people nowadays don't think they are culprits of something and blame others 🤦🏻♂️
Failed or not, a woman doesn't have the right to forbid the father from seeing his baby coming out to the world, at least in my book that's how it is...
@AmberESTP. It means she doesn't want you to witness her giving birth to some other man's baby.
@KrakenAttackin again, it means her "official man" screwed up somewhere.
@AmberESTP , he screwed up when he screwed you!
@AmberESTP. She doesn't want him to see another man's baby being born, and/or she isn't sure what color the baby will be.
I think that’s awful! It’s his baby too. It’s not just hers only because it’s inside her. It’s 50/50. He’s excited about the baby. It took two to get pregnant. He stuck with her for 9 months. She had no right to kick him out.
If they allow me to give more mho, i'll give it to you and thanks for sharing 😊
I would find that a little sus if she did that. Why can't a Dad watch their kid come into the world? Sounds like she is hiding something.
She might who knows or a show off to her female authority 😂
I think if he's a loving husband and she tells me to get out I think he should try and stay against what she says because most what she says comes from anger due to her blaming him for doing this to her, I think he should get hold of her hand and say "I'm not going anywhere".
If he's being a complete dick and inconsiderate pain in the ass then yeah she can boot his arse out
"My question is based on an argument i had with a typical feminist who thinks that she can kick her husband out and invite anyone she can into the delivery room and denying the father to watch his baby coming out to the world..."
How dismal. I am old enough to remember when "feminists" (sic) insisted the father be present at dcelivery, rather than waiting in the waiting room and passing out cigars or other trinkets to his fellows.
A patient can request that everyone except essential staff be excluded from the room during any procedure. That’s a fact. She can’t just invite ANYONE in. One birthing “coach” or whatever. It’s not like she can invite the local beach volleyball team to hang out in the delivery room or something. Ell oh ell!
Personally I didn’t watch I went near my wifes head behind the curtain thing they saw I started to look pale and made me sit down lol. Not a blood person.
Thanks for sharing...
First off It’s the dudes Cum that created the baby secondly The girl is only There To Fertilize Your Own Cum that’s it After your cum is injected Is still your cum But You just don’t Have Any Authority of The Liquid that left your body.
Is this a biology lesson explaining the human reproduction? 🤣🤣
You don't have to be a feminist to know you're allowed whoever you want in the delivery room. It's a very large medical procedure and if them woman doesn't want the Father there, then unfortunately he will be asked to leave.
Why would the woman want her husband to be out? Are there any reasons or it's just because it's her choice? Also can she kick him out and invite someone else?
Let's say that there is no reason and the only reason that dhe wants him out is because to show him that's capable of kicking him out just like that without a reason cause she's superior and because she can!
Do you think that the the father of the baby can be kicked out for no reason and than she brings others to see the procedure? 😄
Are you aware of what your saying and how dangerous this will be?
One thing for sure is that these laws won't work on me if i was there, i will see my baby wether she likes it or not and if there was no harsh reason that convince me to be out than i'll stay in and if i was thrown out by force for any means than this woman will suffer the consequences later and she will always wish if she had never done such thing!
All you have to do is being a good wife and be happy to share this moment with the father of you're baby cause this is his baby too so if there was nothing wrong than why would any woman wants to kick her husband out instead of wishing him to stay...
Technically, she can still have him kicked out, she doesn't need a reason. I don't think that it's fair to kick the Father out though, unless there's a good enough reason. I am aware of what I'm saying, my first statement isn't my opinion, it's fact.
Unfortunately if the Mother of your child insisted on having you kicked out and you didn't, the police would intervene if you caused a scene.
Threatening a new Mother is very childish of you, I could definitely see why you as the Father would be kicked out in the first place.
I don't think they should be kicked out for no reason, I'm just saying that if those are her wishes then unfortunately the man will be removed.
True i'm childish because i'm defending the least rights for a man but such women aren't childish for kicking their men for no reason eyyy? 🤣
You can tell me if your a feminist or not, don't be shy about it!
When a woman cause the man to make scene, she will pay the price!
If you're asking me personally, i can assure you that such things will never happen to me cause 1st of all i'll never marry a woman with such ideology and let's say that she wanted to do it, she will think about it a thousand times before spitting such words out of her mouth...
Like i said "no one can forbid me from seeing my own baby coming out to this world, not even the mother"...
@TonyMetal___86 You obviously don't understand what I'm saying. It's not mens rights, or women wouldn't be allowed to kick them out, I'm talking facts not opinion and it seems you're having trouble differentiating.
I'm not necessarily a feminist, no, I do support womens rights, as much as I support mens rights and if I were I definitely am not a shy person, I'd let you know.
Unfortunately that's not how it works, if you won't be marrying a woman with rights, then why are you even asking the question?
I'm asking the question to see of this is real or not cause i had a debate with a feminazi whom i blocked later because she spoke nonsense and became rude!
I do support women's rights but to a limit...
Even if i gave my future wife the right to choose between having inide the delivery room or not, she shouldn't choose to kick me out because this is very wrong and an act of hate!
A wife usually adores her huaband to be with her in the delivery room and he is the only one whom she trust in that room without mentioning that he's her life and her everything PLUS above all he's the father of the baby, the same way she is the mother!
Usually a wife won't even accept her husband to be out even for medical reason unless the doctor forced him to go out because of harsh reasons and at this point there is nothing that can be done cause the wife and baby's safety comes 1st but it's not like i am the superior gender and i am the woman and i want you out just like that because my cunt want so!
@TonyMetal___86 You're not understanding my point though. I DO NOT support women doing that for no reason, I am stating that it is infact legally allowed to not have the Father in the delivery room as per the Mothers wishes, just like your question asked.
So if that's the case, let me know what's your personal choice?
Ok thanks for sharing
Oh Tony I thought you were asking if she can kick her husband 😯
Haha, i'm asking if she can force her husband to get out of the delivery room in the hospital...
Because a maniac in here told me that she can, maybe she treats her man like a cockroach 🤣
I wouldn't be with a woman who thought this way and I hope no other man is dumb enough to be with her either. Let her die a very lonely life without child.
👍🏻👍🏻
I had a boss who related how her now ex-husband kept whining about how cold he was in the delivery room while she was going through the pains of childbirth. She finally just told him to GTFO.
That's funny
Yup. Wish I would’ve done it with my abuser but I felt bad
Why would any wife kicks her husband out, i know that the norm says that a wife wishes to have her husband next to her in the delivery room and that she wants no one other than him...
If i had a wife that's the only thing that she's allowed to do hehe
Well I have two children and I wasn't interested in seeing them being born, too messy and too much blood so I don't care much
Well that was your choice... totally understandable
It's medical privacy. Yes, she can kick anybody out of the medical room: her mom, dad, husband/wife, etc.
Why would a husband be entitled to stay in the delivery room? There is no law allowing somebody to barge into a person's medical room. It doesn't matter what you are doing in there: getting a pimple removed, having a standard check up or having a baby. Medical privacy is for all.
I suppose she can. There is nothing wrong with it if the husband is disruptive, drunk, getting in the staffs way, or even being problematic with the wife. It'll be better if he is removed.
This isn't a feminist issue, so I don't know how would a feminist weigh on something that's between a couple.
I'm sure that each birthing venue, hospital, clinic, ER, etc., has its own protocol for this sort of thing. Our daughter was in fetal distress (requiring an emergency C-section to save her), and I darn near got trampled in the uproar. I got to warm the bench.
Lol i don't want to be in to see that blood shed.
May if requested then have to but in our part of the world it's quite common that we see the baby post its birth.
Cleaned up abit and wrapped in a cloth
Dude--if your wife kicks you out of the delivery room, you thank your freaking lucky stars! Go get a beer and relax! Buy her a nice gift. Avoid that bloodbath and shitshow. It's literally both of those things. You're there out of duty if she wants you there, but if she doesn't you should peace the fuck out!
Not a bad idea but if it works for you, it doesn't mean that it works for others...
As the patient she gets the say, however if she is doing it to be spiteful then I certainly do not envy his position or the life that she's probably making hell.
You have a point there...
It is her right, but its still fucked up to even want to have tje husband out.
True!
You can bet the hospital staff and security will side with the woman.
Imagine if they don't 🤣
No security and no woman can prevent a father from seeing his baby, that's where the laws fade away because these laws oppress a man and laws were created to protect people and their dignity and not to empower a gender over the other!
@TonyMetal___86. You are speaking as if being male alone isn't borderline illegal.
What do you mean? 🤔
@TonyMetal___86. Well she's worried what color the baby will be when it's born.
That's weirs 🤨
*weird
It's fun to see some people with very clear and direct answers.. all of which aren't even talking about what country this is happening in.
Each country has their own laws, so this changes as well. In most cases the hospital can decide who is in the room, as they have to make a safe environment to work in. They will likely side with the woman to end the argument and get to work.
Yes.
No one has a right to be in an operating room (and that includes a delivery room) except the patient and attending medical staff.
What if it's allowed for one person to be inside?
I stand by by what I wrote.
Furthermore, the patient (if an adult) is the "customer" purchasing a service. So, other than the medical professionals who are providing that service and the customer receiving that service, it's what they say. The medical professionals may allow another person in, but the patient, being the customer, otherwise rules.
PLEASE KICK ME OUT... EWWW, you are NASTY... I can't ever touch THAT thing with MY THING
Unfortunately she can kick the guy out and if she does, hospital staff can enforce it and if he refuses to leave they can call security or the police and have the guy removed.
Than no wonder why would they find her corpse later buried somewhere 😌
Don't try to use illegal force to oppress someone just because you have the power to do it because not all men are the same!
Take me for example, no sane woman who wants to become my future housewife will even think about doing such thing, 1st here where i am, it'a illegal and if it was legal to kick her man out, STILL she wouldn't ask for it and in contrary, she will ask that her husband stays by her side the whole procedure...
If i was a in feminazi country and had such a wife may god forbid, do you think that i'll be out of the room peacefully? I'll make her regret the second she kicked me out and the staff who tries to lay their hands on me might be seriously hurt and the police took me out by force than OKIE DOKIE, let's see if this tiny demon feminist will be safe and happy and when she gets out of the hospital and return to her ordinary life cause one thing for sure is that her won't ever return ordinary at all 🙂
Real men aren't the ones whom you'd want to mess with, we don't have pussy card and passes, such h*es will be treated like scums!
I get what you are saying. I think in some cases the father doesn't have the right to be in the room and should be kicked out like the guy on the reality show I watched who tried to stop the mother of his child from having an epidural. The poor girl had been in labour for over 20 hours or so and she was in so much pain, even the doctor and nurses tried to tell this guy she needed the epidural to deliver the baby safely. but he was trying to force her not to have it. it got so bad hospital staff removed him.
If the guy is a good guy, than yes he should be allowed to be there to see the birth of his child. It's wrong to keep the good guys from that experience. But unfortunately as I said, she can legally kick him out and the hospital staff have to respect this, especially if they feel it is causing her stress.
Wow now that's a typical tyrant behaviour...
You'll kill a woman if YOU did something wrong and she didn't like it huh?
Well lemme tell ya, you'll get to jail even before attempting anything. And the other comment you said about urself being "amazing" shows ur high narcissism.
Ur a dangerous person and should be prosecuted by justice.
@AmberESTP never said that i'm amazing and it's not you who can judge me for the way i am...
1st try to understand what i'm saying than start your attacks!
Since you consider me a dangerous man, than be aware of your words against me especially that you're assuming wrong things about me...
Now for the part where you said that i should be thrown in jail, well why don't you go to sue me so they throw me in jail, so that they laugh on you in the departement and kick you out 😂
If the father wants to see his baby coming out to this world, no one can stop him unless for good or harsh reasons and not because the wife JUST WANT TO!
Also no sane wife would tell her man to go out, in contrary, she will do her best to keep him by her side...
If there was some hospital rules where no one is allowed to enter or if the doctor asks the man to get out politely for medical reasons after explain to the man why and make him convinced than no problem...
The whole story is about a man's right ti see his baby coming out to this world just like the mother does, if he's someone good and there was no reason to kick him than he should stay in!
@anonymous, i agree with your last comment and for sure if the husband is a bad person and will cause chaos in the room than he will immediatly lose his right to see the baby...
ah yes. It's "her baby" when she's giving birth, but it's "our baby" when she wants those child support checks! lmao
You see the double standards? 🤣
These feminazis should be burned to ashes!
This is little argumentative. Understand this is not the time to argument as she is the one in the delivery room delivering the deliverable baby. Life can be so upside down but knowing when not to argue and enduring the pain is a great thing.
In all seriousness, if you as a male are having a child with a lady and you are having this discussion, the problems in this relationship go far beyond a baby delivery! BOTH of you need help!
It's a general topic, i'm not talking about myself but anyways thanks for sharing...
--and my comment was general too. Think about this for a minute. Why would a man have a child with a female that does not want him in the delivery room? I can see if the relationship has sent bad, but in general, that question to me is 100% non sequitur. As far as the question goes, most hospitals have a charge nurse who runs that area. I saw such a nurse run several men off from an ICU in Georgia. If the mom does not want the father in the delivery room, trust me, that charge nurse is going to boot your ass out! It may not be right, but it is going to happen.
Well after that, the woman who sue her man to that nurse will get her ass booted too later 😄
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