Why do Lesbian couples have the highest rate of divorce, domestic violence, emotional abuse, and financial abuse?

[D_Bone_Steak]

You can look up the stats... can't prove me wrong. So... I thought all these things were all men's fault... what happened? But straight couples get along better and homosexual couples seem to get along the best. Would I be going off the edge to suggest most relationship problems are because of women? <--Really interested in how many women would also think so about that. I mean female-female friendships usually don't even stand the test of time at all.

I grew up being told that my gender was the cause of all the bad things... turns out rape is more prevalent amongst women than I realized. What's up with all these female teachers taking advantage of students sexually now? All the cheating I've seen IRL seems to be female-originated... with the males I've seen cheat, were responding to being cheated on first.

Sure there are counterexamples... but just like the men beat you women at female sports... ladies... you now beat men in all the categories you like to complain about men doing too much. What can you say about your own gender ladies?

I'm not trying to say men are all that much better... but all I hear is women trash-talking men and they're not any better at all. Isn't it time to stop talking so much bullshit?

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https://youtu.be/-V6p0D60nMQ?si=RA0iVEcXfrtnwVld

I just woke up from drinking too much Hennessy and this was in my watch feed. Lesbians fighting is just perfect for this here 😆 😂 🤣

[NamerOfStars]

Fundamentally, because women aren't taken seriously- even as violent criminals. Spend your childhood being told that it's okay if you hit people because "she's just a girl", and shock of shocks, you grow up thinking that your violence doesn't matter. Similarly, the vast majority of (male) rapists were sexually abused themselves as children, usually by women, and when they complain, they're told that they're "lucky", because they're receiving sexual attention from a woman. Then they grow up and expect their own sexual assaults to be taken lightly- who would've thought?

It's funny (in a deeply depressing way) how many of these Battle-of-the-Sexes problems would go away if we just treated each other equally...

[D_Bone_Steak]

You just reminded me of how many serial killers have a childhood history of being sexually abused by their mothers. Everything you've said here makes a whole lot of sense friend.

I remember being told that fatherless households tend to make the kids a bit unhinged, but not that I think of it... yeah... a lot of these girls get treated much differently when it comes to certain crimes. I know I wasn't allowed to hit, cry, or show any emotions around my Mom... my sisters on the other hand... the shit they were allowed to just do with no reason.

[DrMouse]

I've never seen anything showing male rapists were more likely to have been abused by men than women. I mean, I'd believe it since the vast majority male sexual abuse is perpetrated by women, but I've never actually seen anything to directly back this up.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@DrMouse It was like the secret knowledge of serial killers back in the 80's. They broke it down that straight serial killers killed women that reminded them of their mothers and the gay one's... well they're gay so I stopped paying attention... but I did notice the gay ones went after gay males. It wasn't just randoms out of nowhere like we see nowadays. They had identifiable targets.

[Tapeworm]

Where is @sodomite?

[NamerOfStars]

You stopped caring about people being murdered because of their sexual orientation?

[Tapeworm]

I think he said he stopped caring about the killer because the killer is gay.

[NamerOfStars]

@Tapeworm That's not really an improvement.

[Tapeworm]

We all have preferences.

[NamerOfStars]

@Tapeworm Excusing people criminal actions because of their orientation isn't a "preference".

[D_Bone_Steak]

This is what I read when I wake up... I can't stop laughing. @tapeworm isn't it a bit crazy these people want to argue over which serial killers I hate the most?

[Tapeworm]

Remember that one anonymous drunk post rant of yours about how you hate waking up to a hundred notifications? I knew immediately it was you who posted it... just reminded that shit.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@Tapeworm True. I was starting to get horrified by all the reactions I'd get... they'd be serious too and I was just doing drunk shit... getting immune to it though I think.

My notifications was still blasting my phone off back then... had my wife thinking I was cheating with some super hawt hooker from a strip bar, but it was just GAG. I had to take GAG, twatter, facebook and Instagram off my phone because that shit had my wife thinking I was fucking the entire city. Little did she know... It was just people pissed off at me. I wasn't getting my dick wet anywhere... I was just pissing people off. Business as usual. 😂

[D_Bone_Steak]

Also kind of stupid of me trying to do the anon thing when dudes like you can pick me out just by my writing style. Better to just be out and proud like the gays are now... just admit I'm an asshole doing asshole things. Which is most likely shitting and pissing myself on a pile of rocks after a bad fall.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@Tapeworm I just got another badge for that last post and then coomer pops up... I'm using a 32" screen as a monitor now... Coomer is just funny man. I laughed at my own profile for at least a minute... I was crying with laughter. I'm so fucking retarded I spend time looking at my own shit just to laugh at it. That's pretty fucking retarded. 😂

[D_Bone_Steak]

I'm still laughing at my own shit... I fucking love being this retarded.

[JustinTheGreat]

One thing I noticed about lesbian relationships is that they tend to move really quickly.
lesbians fall In love and move in with each other in like 2 seconds.
So maybe it’s due to the fact that they jump into marriages super fast and realize too late that they’re not compatible.
im just guessing tho, I don’t know

[lightbulb27]

women are notoriously difficult... they will blame others and require emotional support as their cycles go up and down. ya gotta be able to roll with that and maybe a lot of women can't for if their hormones are in synch, as apparently happens a lot with women... then they are both moody at the same time. That be very bad. Their brain chemistry literally changes and they see things differently, react differently... and then it changes again. It's a bad formula.

[D_Bone_Steak]

I like your answer there lightbulb27. That could be the source of the "drama"... I mean people act differently when they take substances... women probably go through that on their monthly cycle or at least I've heard a lot of women claim they do. I would say they're still the source of most of the "drama" but you have given me a possible insight on as to why they happen to be that source.

[blueonblack22]

Statically 63% of men under 30 are single right now. But only half that percentage of women claim they are single. So what are these other 30% of “taken” young women actually doing:

• dating older guys
• saying they are in a “relationship” when they really aren’t.
• dating other women

So the last point is growing exponentially. It’s “trendy” right now and female sexuality is more malleable than male sexuality. But does it really make these women happy?

I’m sure for the women who were 100% lesbian (and would be closeted in a different generation) it’s has made a lot of them much more happy obviously. They are not only accepted now but considered special and “celebrated” in society.

But for the relationships I’ve seen there is typically a pure lesbian who takes on the masculine role. She takes the lead and usually dates/marries a bisexual girl takes on the feminine role. The bi girl also typically has daddy issues and/or a bad prior experience with men and/or is very left politically and/or wants someone to take care of her financially. However they are still both women.

So I have known some very masculine lesbians. I actually get along and relate with them on typical masculine issues. For example I am friends with one masculine lesbian who is an ex marine and I’m a ex pro mma fighter. We talk about grind, intense fitness and hard training. We also both talk about being hard driven to do well financially. I work in corporate marketing and she’s an attorney.

However even with all that common ground between us she is still not like completely like relating to another man. She isn’t even like talking to a feminine man. She still has a difference in thought patterns and observations from being a woman. They are subtle but they are still there.

There always be a difference in how we interact, reason and deal with issues. Even the most feminine man still processes reality around him differently and more closely to other moderate or even very masculine men (even if he acts differently) bs. a very masculine lesbian.

So back lesbian relationships. Initially two women can really hit it off since both understand each other emotionally, sexually and they are socially encouraged and “celebrated” now. But in a healthy hetero relationship the man actually can help with a very different pov and/or vice versa. While the differences in gender thought patterns can make men and women at great odds with one another the difference can also greatly improve one another. Reason being is you get a pov that is impossible for you to ever understand naturally in your own gender. While that can be highly aggravating at times it can also be very effective. When managed effectively you will always have a healthy devils advocate more or less. Overall happy people who make wise decisions almost always welcome a devils advocate position on how to go about life.

So long story short it should come as no surprise that lesbian couples have relationships that often degrade quickly. They can’t improve each other and grow as easily as a healthy hetero relationship. And I’m not saying that to be homophobic.

However nowadays more women are diving head first into the short term “feeling” they have about a relationship as “their truth”. This includes getting into lesbian relationships. However when they discover “your truth” is not “the truth” they become unhappy because they are defying the natural order of the world. So my theory is a lot of lesbian relationships are not working out in the long run because they were never meant to be in the first place.

It’s the ugly truth. But with most things nowadays women have to find out the hard way when they defy what was meant to be.

[D_Bone_Steak]

God damn you're smart. I think you wrote a masterpiece here. Don't be surprised if I print this out and put it on my wall... read it before sleep and again when I wake up.

[D_Bone_Steak]

I remember that stat from a while back where a bunch of women, more so then men claim they're in relationships, when there simply isn't enough men. I was watching your typical manosphere redpilled MGTOW stuff, so it got explained as a lot of these women are dating the same men... ultra Chads that just have a bunch of these chicks all on him. They basically all think they're his boo or whatever the kids say nowadays. Meanwhile Chad over there is just using them for sex while the women all think they have something really going on with him. ... that was the explanation given by a few different channels I watch on youtube for the difference.

I sort of agree with it, because I'm basically a Chad... and I've seen it with my own eyes. Only reason I don't have 8 to 10 chicks all on me right now is because I started getting older... and I just don't think the juice is worth the squeeze anymore. Too much drama and bullshit... I got my wife and porn to handle the basic needs. I just sort of relate to that theory because of that. Because I was a fucking animal from 20-something until late 30's... I used to play a game where I had to bang 3 different chicks in one day for the entire week, and repeats don't count. My friend and I were competing. If you do the math, that's 7 days in a week times 3 and we'd do that for months until we got deployed again for some military bullshit.

The advice I'd drop to young dudes... always pull out, use a condom if you even think she might have something, and always pull out even when using a condom.

[blueonblack22]

thanks @D_Bone_Steak. I really has a moment of deep thought when I read this last evening.

The main argument I am trying to make is the following:

- Women do NOT know what is inherently best for real happiness
- Women are VERY susceptible to social contagion compared to men. They will change their sexuality, abort their babies and even insanely support a cause (Hamas) that pushed the most brutal form of patriarchy: sharia law.
- Women will defy virtually anything I do mean anything that is “old school” UNLESS it directly benefits them (getting free dinners, get letting off for criminal behavior, etc).
- Last but not least men can NOT do anything to stop women from engaging in their own self destruction. We HAVE to accept it. We have to let women find out the HARD WAY they should of listened to us. Find out the hard way that most men really want what’s best for THEIR happiness (not “control” them).

But like disciplining a rebellious teenager a parent should NEVER enable that behavior. But sometimes the parent has to step back and let the kid hit rock bottom. It’s the only way the kid will learn and that’s what’s happening to modern women. They are making THEMSELVES miserable.

[blueonblack22]

Glad if you liked this @D_Bone_Steak. Thinking I might need to write a take on how women are destroying their own happiness with a “modern” lifestyle and how men have to unfortunately LET THEM find out the hard way.

They think the key to happiness is doing the exact opposite of what any traditional conservative man says. Like every little thing we say to them is about power and control for our own benefits. It’s NOT. I don’t “hate” women nor do most men. But we really do know what’s best for them.

Once men and women reach adulthood the men are figuratively more like parents and women are more like adolescents in the modern world. While it’s true young girls mature emotionally much faster then young boys they also hit a hard ceiling faster. Men meet them and then surpass them in maturity later in life (often by a long shot.)

[D_Bone_Steak]

I agree 100%. You should write that mytake. You have a gift for getting your mental thoughts across the table to others.

I had to mentally sit on the part "Women are VERY susceptible to social contagion compared to men." It makes sense from what I've seen. From the masks, shots, hate Trump and love Biden stuff, and so much more (that Humas support makes no fucking sense for instance, Humas hates everything they want to stand for!)... they seem to eat up that fake shit media puts out there a lot more than anybody else... bitch dudes do too, but I think that's why we call them bitch dudes.

Kind of gave me a chuckle when I remembered they were complaining about "unreal expectations" just a few years back and then when I did the research, all those unreal expectations in magazines and stuff were coming straight from gay dudes and mostly other women. ... somehow it's always the regular man's fault even when we're not involved... like this bullshit between lesbian couples. ... that thought turned me into a chuckle fuck for a minute.

Something about us humans... we've been around for thousands of years and can't seem to just figure it all out. I think when I was living in Japan, that was as orderly as I was ever going to see humans act. It had it's problems, but they had a cultural order on things.

Hell yeah, write that mytake... you write stuff that's worth reading.

[blueonblack22]

Well men are justifiably angry about this but truth be told WE got to change our strategy on how to deal with this. We argue logic and common sense but that just goes in one ear and out the other.

Think of a parent who is dealing with a rebellious teenager. The teenager doesn’t comprehend how much pain he/she is causing their parent. They are dead set on rebelling and sometimes it’s so bad the only way the kid learns is if they hit some sort of rock bottom themselves. A rock bottom gives a moment of clarity for people. It’s horrible to watch and it’s painful for their friends and family but you are literally dealing with an addict. A part of them knows they are doing wrong to themselves but the “feeling” they are chasing short circuits all common sense. You can NOT talk them out of that feeling no matter how logically correct you might be.

So instead of getting angry, criticizing and arguing facts and logic men just need to back off and not interact with these women period. Let them find out the hard way.

This is unfortunately very painful for us. Most of these so called “incels” would of been happily married in a different time era. But men have to accept this sacrifice and NOT enable these women. Do NOT change your core values to match theirs just so “they will like you”. But don’t try to fight them on it either. Just walk away and ignore them. Too many men think they can reason women out of their bad behavior but that actually makes them worse. They WANT the “feeling” of being in the fight.

Men also need to do a better job supporting each other. We are naturally competitive and it’s good to a certain extent. But we can’t keep throwing each other the bus to “impress” women. Freudian psychology is a big motivation to “one up” each other. But we got to stop doing that in times like this.

[D_Bone_Steak]

Fucking A... I got to buy you a beer sometime. I think you think more than I think. I don't run into that often but when I do... hands down, you're the smarter one. You might not know it but you've changed my whole damn perception about this question from where it started.

Dude, start writing Mytakes... you're made for it. Think of it as article-writing practice.

[ImHere22]

"You can look up the stats... can't prove me wrong."

Easy: you speak only in very generalized, albeit sexist, language, and clearly, clearly did not even perform a simple search online for peer-reviewed research to back up your hate-mongering rhetoric.

Observe: Experiences of Intimate Partner Violence Among Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender College Students: The Intersection of Gender, Race, and Sexual Orientation

Also: LGBTQIA Victims

In addition: Domestic Violence in the LGBTQ+ Community

And finally: When Intimate Partner Violence Meets Same Sex Couples: A Review of Same Sex Intimate Partner Violence

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Read these. Talk to people of the LGBTQIA+ community. Stop finding weird figures to post (by the way, that paints you as some kind of 'think with his dick and never with his brain Trump-loving loser', so maybe think about what graphics you decide on in your next brainless post).

"What can you say about your own gender ladies?" As a man, I would say this to you, 'Fuck off'. What can you say about your own behavior, sir? Do you get asked to speak for all men in the world, hemisphere, continent, region, country, state, county, city, neighborhood, dwelling? No. You absolutely do not speak nor represent any other man, woman, or child unless you actually have dependents. Just as you cannot speak for anyone else, neither can anyone else speak for the entire body of women, men, the heterosexual community, the LGBTQIA+ community, etc. You really think one person identifying as gay would be able to speak to everything within her/his/their community? Well, if you do believe that, you're an idiot. And if you try to claim satire, "I was just kidding", Save it. No one needs to hear another middle aged I'm guessing white guy ranting about women just because you just so happen to be in the throws of a divorce, or you have new, better female coworker/boss, or your mom cut you off from your allowance, or whatever it may be that stoked this little tantrum of yours.

Word of advice: grow up. You're 41 and you posted a graphic with the title "Universal Hot Crazy Matrix". Like seriously? Are you 41 going on 12? Because I don't even think my 12 year old nephew would post something so stupid. But hey, you do you, dude.

Enjoy that hand of yours, because it's the only action you'll be getting for a long, long, long long, long time.

A very long, long, long time.

[D_Bone_Steak]

"No one needs to hear another middle aged I'm guessing white guy"

I'm guessing triggered SJW here. You're probably white yourself and you hate your own kind. Everything you guessed is wrong (except that I have more kids than you've ever had sexual partners), so I won't feel bad if you're a black dude who just hates white people.. especially men. If you are a legit dude, I'm also guessing you hate your gender... I can sort of tell.

[JacobJordan]

Now while I may not agree with everything the @D_Bone_Steak said I did do my own due diligence and according to the vast majority of stats I could find 17-45% of women engaged in a same-sex relationship have reported domestic abuse. Meanwhile heterosexual relationships according to numerous sources I could find report a max of 34-35%. With the bureau of Justice Statistics listing the following as and I'll quote them "domestic vioence was eight timer as high among bisexuality persons (32.3 victimization per 1,000 persons age 16+. And more than twice as high among lesbian or gay persons (10.3 per 1,000) as it was among straight persons (4.2 per 1,000). In addition "the rate of violent victimization of lesbian or gay persons (43.5 per 1,000 persons 16+) was more than two times the rate for straight persons (19.0 per 1,000). As well as the simple fact that not even 60% of all abuse between same sex couples was reported so there is a 40%+ data string completely missing from the reports. Will also add numerous sources Stat that 44% of lesbian and 61% of bisexuality women have experienced some form of rape or physical violence by an intimate partner compared to 35% of straight women.
This stat is further divided to 26% of gay men and 37% of bisexuality men have experienced the same compared to 29% of straight men. So factually speaking you are an absolute moron and your rant just shows you are not bothering to do the research

[D_Bone_Steak]

@JacobJordan I can tell you did your research. Went deeper than me into it, just being real. I remained in the Lesbian only research (meaning it has to be done by lesbian academics only) and I didn't even think about expanding out to stuff like the Department of Justice. That could explain the differences in our numbers... but fucking A... you do research. That's a fact.

I didn't want to believe it when I first ran into that info... I was like "awe hell no, men beat up everybody" and then I went down a rabbit hole. I wished I had the attention span to research how these numbers have changed over the years, because I don't believe it was not always like this. I just have this hunch that it's getting worse along with changes in culture. ... like, another hunch I have... we have yet to see the worst of it.

[Kai95]

As someone who actually worked on gathering info on same-sex relationships, marriages and adoption dynamics, Lesbian couples tend to have a higher rate of Financial and Emotional abuse rates, the shocking statistics that we found was that around 25-30% of lesbian couples have either during or before marriage have groomed/raped/abused of another woman at some point and even more shocking is that the rate of a lesbian having intimate relations with a underaged child is almost 3x higher than a gay man! But only 5% of lesbians are actually convicted after being found guilty, and regarding adoption it’s almost 50% faster and easier for a lesbian couple than a gay couple. Regarding divorce LGBTIQ in general have higher rates and it varies, lesbian couples are at the top, it was also found that lesbians tend to lie 3x more, keep more secrets from each other around 2.5x more and communicate less around 1.5x more (when compared to gay couple)


domestic violence gay couples are 2x more likely to get into physical abuse/fights.

[D_Bone_Steak]

The male-male couples are 2x more likely to get into physical abuse/fights or the woman-woman couples?

[BullShark]

My guess is that most abusive and violent women are like this because they've either never been shown the error of their ways, made to face the consequences of their actions, and/or whatever they do is overlooked simply because they're pretty/are a woman and are generally perceived as harmless. And because of this, they develop a mindset where they start thinking they're untouchable and they can get away with anything and everything.

Again, this is just my guess, so anyone is more than welcome to refute me on this. I'm always open for a healthy discussion as long as you aren't one of those crazies who just want to shit on men because they have an opinion.

[D_Bone_Steak]

Well, I don't get offended by guesses and I think this is a good guess. As I was reading I was thinking "Imagine two of them, where society has allowed them to get away with everything they've done their entire life, and then they get together."

I mean the validity to your argument is there just with the differences of how our crimes are punished. The courts will give me 5 years in prison because I'm a damn dusty dirty male, but a hot chick will get 90 days, if even that, of community service for the same crime.

I think you have a fucking awesome guessing machine going on in your head.

[BullShark]

Lmao thanks man. I guess you could say I've seen enough shit in life already to know what's what

[smne35]

I'm every relationship there is one who is more controlling, and the other just goes along with it and it's no secret that there are women who are just as aggressive and violent as men, and have most if not all behavioral patterns as violent men, I don't doubt the stars on that but is the figures accurate, how many is not being reported, figures could be way higher either way it's alarming and says that relationships if all kinds are prone to same level of violence and happiness, some have self control others don't, act out with violence

[D_Bone_Steak]

You're on point... not all of them are violent and just complete trash. Some have a ton of self-control. I think what startles me is the number of women outdoing men in that department while I've been told my entire life that only men do that shit.

Read some stats and figure out that maybe you're not all that bad just because you have a swinging dick between your legs and... fucking women man. Like every stat I look up... child abuse, violence, poisoning people... damn they need some control. They get busted for the same shit and then don't get punished the same... I think that's what makes the stats so lopsided.

I only saw it with my Mom treating everybody like shit. I thought she was just an outlying example... but when I dug into it on the internet... she's the fucking norm.

[smne35]

The anger violence has been building for decades leading up to the feminists movement, and when that era exploded most of their behavior came to surface, some just jump on band wagon but for first time women were free to express themselves and we got to see that it's not just men who are aggressive and still today many refuse to Believe this, in both sexes there are dominant women and submissive Men a chemical imbalance, maybe, but ones early environment also has some influence on their behavior as adults, violence is a learned behavior not born that way, I don't Believe that, maybe a super dude of estrogen can calm women down, I'm kidding kinda but in most cases when trend to be more violent this really need to be taken seriously and studied extensively, how many have not come forward living with this abuse everyday, it is a perfect world, it we would not exist here, we are the imperfection responsible for all that occurs here, and need to own up to it

[sage2021]

My concern with this is when two lesbians get into a same sex marriage then move on to adopt babies and little children.
What kind of atmosphere is that kind of bad behavior is going to hurt the children.
Yes, I have heard them say they adopt them to love them. But according to what you are saying, most of them aren't being loved. They are caught up in a very dysfunctional family.

By the way, I don't like to play the shame game with people. I guess after being on GaG I have more knowledge about men now.

I was married to a man and we had a baby and he abandoned us and took my car with him.
So it's really about the people and if they are a good match.

We can all point fingers at each other, but heck, we are just people giving a shot at love. And for many many of us it just didn't gel. 🤷🏼‍♀️

[D_Bone_Steak]

I didn't even think about the factor of kids being involved. Holy shit you just made my thoughts on this deeper than I even intended. Only lesbian couple I met with kids... just to be real I'd bet money they are not a couple still. The kids were running around and they were bragging about how they don't make them do school... and then the other chick started playing with her pussy... she was trying to entice me. This was at a concert for some pro-marijuana shit... I was hanging out with some chick that had a famous song out at the time... I don't fucking remember her song so I bet nobody else will. I'm lost on where I was going with this TBH. Yeah... lesbian chick started trying to seduce me... I was like under 20 back then so I was thinking..." maybe this lesbian shit don't work so well if one of them is trying to seduce some underage dick into the mix." ... I'm drinking like crazy and it's Christmas... please don't give me shit for not talking straight right now. I'm going to try and find that singer guitarist chicks name that I was hanging out with.

[D_Bone_Steak]

Jewel... that's the chick... she played better than me at the time. She was hella cool and chill. I think she mentioned us on stage. I was just a kid back then so I was... basically just there.

[D_Bone_Steak]

https://youtu.be/0wBDDAZkNtk?si=JaJk_Sh2-RTnGhTU

I don't just make shit up... I lived it. 😂

[D_Bone_Steak]

God... it's weird looking at her with her hair straight and that makeup on. Frizzy hair and all the other stuff back, please.

[D_Bone_Steak]

Onto the first flute lesson, I demanded my kid learn since he picked the fucking flute.
https://youtu.be/jPkZsDInseQ?si=KI5y87fsdrkyfiAH
I want to erase my childhood memories with this awesome shit.

[ManOnFire]

I believe the reason is because you still have the one partner who wants to be dominant like a man, and the other woman tends to be way more submissive than if she were in a relationship with an actual man. So because of this the dominant lesbian feels maybe a higher sense of power, because she’s a woman who gets to overpower or control another woman, and it goes to her head and makes her feel like a boss.

[D_Bone_Steak]

... or worse yet... what if they both start doing it and letting power and control go to their heads, and they simply clash? I'd imagine that is straight-up warfare at that point.

Damn... the more I think about it... there is a very real biological reason men and women are so different mentally (not talking about all the physical stuff). Like that shit just evolved along with all the physical differences kind of stuff. Like, there are reasons... and times have changed so fast that those reasons seem to be lost knowledge to some people.

[ManOnFire]

Yep, that is also part of it, they both want control. And women are control freaks more than men, so it makes sense that 2 women together would clash.

[D_Bone_Steak]

Shit... they clash just being friends. On a long enough timeline, I swear they will fight sooner than later.

[Siri137]

"You can look up the stats... can't prove me wrong."

That's not how it works. It's not our job to prove you wrong. It's your job to provide the evidence that would substantiate the particular claim (s) you're making here.

So... where are they? These "stats" you speak of. And no, don't accuse me or anyone else who brings this up of "being lazy", that will not do.

"Would I be going off the edge to suggest most relationship problems are because of women?"

Too late! You went off the deep end a long, long time ago.

"Really interested in how many women would also think so about that"

No you're not.

"I mean female-female friendships usually don't even stand the test of time at all."

Evidence for this absurd assertion; do you have any?

[serious_miss419]

Well said.
He’s just looking for banter

[D_Bone_Steak]

I can pull up my evidence with quick Google searches, and my anecdotal evidence could be proven wrong... but you just want to attack because I didn't lay it all out there and do the work for you...

Plus I know what your next move is if I do all the work for you. You will disregard it or won't accept it.

Look... my interest in this started with a youtube video of a bunch of lesbians pointing this out... that's when I looked it up for myself... it was true. I didn't create a fucking bibliography of it all, but I did do my research and all those damn lesbians telling this shit happened to be right about the stats. I had further questions on it so I came here. <-- You're just mad about that and have not even attempted to appease my curious mind. Why not just Google search it? You afraid of what you might find?

I did... but you want me to do that part for you as well? ... I did it for myself, and like I said, you won't prove me wrong. You mad about that? You should be mad at Google if you disagree with it... not me.

[D_Bone_Steak]

For instance... did you know that lesbians rape each other more than dudes rape chicks? I fucking didn't know that. Am I so stupid for not knowing that, or for coming upon that information and asking if you people are sure about this? If the judgment is coming from the standpoint of me just not knowing shit... fine. But I'm asking questions for a reason you very very smart individual.

Instead of proving me wrong as well as them... you badger me to do homework for you and probably have no intention on changing my perception. You, just want banter in my opinion, but you have a cheerleader telling you that it's me.

So, we done here or are you going to provide counter-evidence to my assertions... that's how it works.

[JacobJordan]

I looked up it wasn't too hard and factually he has a point. Vast majority of sources cite a 44% lesbian and 61% bisexual women experiencing rape or abuse compared to 35% for straight women. And 26% of gay men and 37% of bisexual men experience rape or abuse compared to 29% of straight men. I did spend about 3 hours looking into this. For sites that list state ranges like the bureau of justice statistics. The ranges are far higher among same sex couples (both men and women) and in bisexual relationships (both men and women) than it is among straight couples. And these factors are based only on less than 60% of the data as not even 60% of lesbian, gay or bisexual persons reported the abuse they went through. So there is more than 40% of the data that remains unknown so the stat could be higher or lower if the remaining block of data was available

[Siri137]

"I can pull up my evidence with quick Google searches..."
Well, why don't you then?
"... but you just want to attack because I didn't lay it all out there and do the work for you..."
Rubbish! That's what every retarded, misogynistic conspiracy theorist says. Admit it, you're full of crap.

[JacobJordan]

@siri137 I also checked cause I was curious he's actually right. Women experience significantly more abuse and even rape in same sex relationships than they do in heterosexual relationships.

[Djaay]

D_Bone_Steak... You can't argue with someone who doesn't perceive the truth or bottom line until they change their own trajectory about themselves first. Especially those who only listen to articulations from other like themselves.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@Djaay Wasn't even trying to argue, I was asking a question based on certain facts as to why those facts are true at all... then I just get attacked as a person type stuff for just asking a question. I got to really hand it to @JacobJordan here for looking it up instead of just assuming I'm making this shit up because I'm a male chauvinist pig or some silly shit I usually hear big fat feminists say on youtube. But Djaay, the bottom line is you are completely right. Siri here is getting hit with facts that didn't come straight from me and she's doing exactly what I said she would do to me (but doing it to him instead). Disregards everything. She's never going to get around to answering the question... probably will get around to calling me gay and telling me I can't get laid first (common ad hominem attacks).

[Djaay]

D Bome... I think you took it wrong how I mentioned.

[Djaay]

You guys (men) can't argue with a woman , distraught or not... bc we men usually use sense someth

[Djaay]

Something a woman doesn't use.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@Djaay lolz... I will agree... but remember to say "some women" instead of just "women" because if one of them catches you doing that, there is a good chance she won't use any sense and get all emotional about it.

[Djaay]

Those who are that described way know who I'm talking about and those good women need not apply.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@Djaay Good Job. It's sad we have to go that far just to avoid the "offended" but I guess it is what it is.

[Djaay]

I'll tell the truth offended or not. The offended can be offended all they wish.

[Asad1ONE1]

@Djaay Let's not make this a gendered competition. But if this is true, I will tend to hate women in general even more than I already do. 😡😡

[EnglishArtsteacher]

Exactly.

[Djaay]

It's true alright , but you don't have to hate them , just be aware and be a step up instead.

[Djaay]

Siri137... You're the one who opposes the question asked so it becomes your obligation to prove otherwise. He's not stating scientific news alert , but just a question. Your grievance, , your opinion , your perspective otherwise and your choice to engage... your obligation to show to the contrary.

[Siri137]

@Djaay This conversation (or should I call it a wankfest?) is still going I see. I dispute the premises of the question, if that's what you mean. Where is his evidence for the claims he makes here? I don't see any, so why should anyone accept them? He obviously just pulled this crap out of his ass.
And no, I'm not being a "sensitive snowflake" for simply disputing a claim, or not agreeing with the overall tone of the conversation here. It's rather obvious that the lot of you just hate women, and for no good reason at all. You're a bunch of knuckle-dragging Neanderthals who haven't woken up to the reality that it's the 21st century, and not the 19th anymore. It's called progress. Get used to the idea.

[Siri137]

@Asad1ONE1 Really? Why? Why do you hate women in general? If you're a creepy, obese, stinky, virginal incel with a shitty personality, well then I'm sure most women will at the least avoid you, but instead of blaming others for your poor choices in life, you should man up and stop being such a wimp!

[Djaay]

Or you could use your own advise

[JacobJordan]

@siri137 I posted evidence and sources for it. As I was curious to the validity of the claims as well. Did you see that or did it get lost?

[D_Bone_Steak]

Oh my god @Siri137...@JacobJordan pulled up info and if I do it for you too it's going to be even worse because my info comes from nothing but lesbians and only lesbians. His stats were a bit less cringy than the ones I was coming up with because I restricted myself to lesbians only. And Siri please understand that I relate to you just not liking this information... I didn't like it either and I got shut down when I tried to dispute it and started looking shit up. We just hate women and are knuckle-dragging Neanderthals (who had bigger brains than us), but you won't just look it up. Someone looks it up and lays it all out there for you and you don't even care because feelings don't care about facts? If you dislike the premises... attack that then... not us for pointing out facts. It's like logic 101 in a basic class. True conclusion + true conclusion = true reasoning... so tear down a conclusion instead of attacking literally everyone as people with ad hominem attacks. You don't have shit to say about any of the given conclusions... just shit to say about us and you don't even know us. WTF?

[Siri137]

The Neanderthals had smaller brains. Perhaps you had in mind Cro Magnon man, who in fact did have larger brains.
As for Jordan's "info", I still don't see any links to actual, credible sources here.

[JacobJordan]

@siri137 I named the sites I pulled from in the message. Bureau of Justice statistics. I also named more in the post I made on this topic specifically and in a different comment string if you really would like exact links I am more than happy to provide though I don't think you want those links published. You let me know though if you would more than 1 link I will certainly oblige

[JacobJordan]

@siri137 I'll do one better and just post them anyways.
1. www.standffov.org/.../
2. Bureau of Justice Statistics (. gov)
https://bjs.ojp.gov › pub › pdfPDF
Violent Victimization by Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity...
3. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9403987/
4. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7811079/
5. ajph.aphapublications.org/.../AJPH.2020.306017
Shall I keep going cause there are literally thousands of federally and state recognized sources I can post. If you want I can even draw from international sources like those in the UK, Germany, France, Italy, etc that have all come to similar conclusions. Or do none of these count as "actual, credible sources"

[D_Bone_Steak]

I did a quick google search about Neanderthal brain size compared to us. So I was right again... Siri... Do you just like getting people to look shit up for you? Do you like being wrong all the damn time?

I was taught in basic logic class to assume the premises are true and first find logical explanations for it. You're going the route of trying to tear the conclusion, not by attacking the premise of anything, but rather by name-calling and shitting all over the place with mental diarrhea.

I don't know everything, so I looked up that fucking brain size shit and you are full of shit. It's like you think you're right about everything, but you can't just google shit and find out you're full of shit. 😂 🤣

[D_Bone_Steak]

@Siri137 Would you happen to be a violent lesbian by any chance? You could enlighten us as to why you may have raped women.

[Djaay]

D_Bone_Steak... As I was saying.

[monorprise]

I think its because women are emotional and emotions are not well adapted to our modern world and the complexity of modern information and life.

Double the number of such people in a relationships and you significantly increase the odds of one of them creating a problem.

[magiusX26]

more accurately, emotions are fleeting, sometimes randomized, and often not based in reality/irrational. instead of facing reality, more and more people are digging deeper into there emotions hence why more and more people are offended by cold hard facts.

[ImHere22]

Everyone is emotional. That nonsense of 'women are emotional' is a tactic used for thousands of years by men to gaslight women. Men are emotional; you're emotional; I'm emotional. Emotional means you have... wait for it... EMOTIONS. Emotions are not well adapted to our modern world? What are you, Spock? Dude, get out of here with that. You ever see a human before? Emotion on the human's face. You ever look in the mirror? Emotion on your face. You're feeling an emotion right now.
I swear, some of you don't even know what critical thinking is, it's like you just punched school in the face and said "not by my watch".

[D_Bone_Steak]

@monorprise and @magiusx26 - You both give great insight as to the cause.

@imhere22 - I suspect you're a woman... or what we call a bitch dude. Are you an SJW or something? Are you here to fight for your trans rights dude? <--or am I in trouble now because I assumed your gender or some bullshit because of the blue letters?

You've come on here and ranted your "triggered" at a bunch of people. You are being too emotional to even make me desire to respond to you. You're worse than most women right now... who hurt you? 😂🤣

[monorprise]

@magiusx26
The problem with many women leading to problems is their prioritization of their outdated feelings in their judgement over a rational analyses of their measurable needs.

@ImHere22 In the English language when a someone says your emotional, they are referring to you making judgements based upon said feelings NOT the fact that you have them.

[JacobJordan]

@ImHere22 very much doubt you are a man lol. You are way to emotionally unstable. The reason why "women are emotional" exists is because on a generalized scale of 100 randomly selected men and 100 randomly selected women women will far exceed the men in terms of making emotional decisions where as the men will far exceed the women in terms of making rational decisions. That does not mean women are not rational and men are not emotional. It simply means more often than not men make the rational choice (which is factual) and women make then emotional choice (which again is factual) it is also why men and women pair well together when they aren't in each other's way. On a large generalized scale women inhabit the emotional world and men inhabit the physical world when together both spheres of influence are present enhancing the other by proximity. Women more often than not make men better at understanding emotions and making decisions that consider other people's feelings. And men help women with the physical side of life either by helping her lift things or directly taking control of that aspect. These are all generalizations based on hundreds of years of human studies. Your immediate proclivity to purposely misinterpret peoples questions/responses so as to spew this silliness is quite telling.

[magiusX26]

@ monorprise agreed

[magiusX26]

@ imhere22 i see, you are one of those that make it so that people have to say things that are "goes without saying" or "given" things.

[AviatorTom]

When I was growing up, my grandmother lived with us. She and my mother often fought, not physically, just yelling g at each other. A similar thing happened when my mother-in-law lived with us for a short time when I was married to her her daughter.

There's an old saying... two women can't live in the same house.

From my experience, thzt saying us true... each woman trie to be in control, and that's what causes the arguments.

[D_Bone_Steak]

I think I've seen this my whole life in all the different examples I was living in at different times. I can't prove my anecdotal experiences, but it sure does lead me in the direction thinking, two females is a bad mix.

[Apple1996]

I think it could be a numbers thing since there aren't that many lesbian couples their rates seem higher in comparison to straight couples. Which is a lot bigger of a group.

[D_Bone_Steak]

The stats are all in percentages. Plus, by that logic, the homosexuals wouldn't be the polar opposite right? Just based on the amount of them compared to the straight couples. So I really don't think that's the reason for the differences.

It's like that old argument where someone asks why so many black people are on welfare, and then someone will point out that there is more white people on welfare and will be all smug about it without realizing they didn't account for the percentage differences in aggregate. Yes, there is way more white people on welfare, but a much less % of them are on welfare compared to the % of the prior group which happens to be just 13 to 14% of the entire population. Same mistake gets made with violence statistics.

[D_Bone_Steak]

You have me thinking though... could this be a cultural shift where the norms are shifting for women so much so that they're starting to outdo the males with certain negative traits? I mean, just 30 years ago female crimes (I'm guessing here), wasn't it a lot less than it is now? I'll have to research that one when I get some time. I'm curious if it's just a shift in cultural norms. I mean I seriously think I remember a time when pointing out that men did all the cheating seemed validated. But now, statistically speaking, they outdo the males there. Just like the percentage of them going to college is now greater than males.

[ImHere22]

Instead of 'supposing' as a person who is clearly not a social scientist, you could, of I don't know, read the research that's out there. Cliff notes: there's not much research on the community with these parameters, so historical data is not very sufficient, if it exists at all.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@ImHere22 Are you even aware of how girly or seething with vitriol you sound right now? You're not even making any logical sense. Just accusatory and obviously just triggered. Are you a woman using a blue account? Been taking hormones or something? Have you gone to one of these woke colleges and got indoctrinated?

Into growing some boobs (?_?) 😂 🤣

Did your girl cheat on you with me?

[musclesimp]

It's what you have psychedelic art for. Forums may have some AI filter or maybe the snitches are the filter. In any case I attempted embedding what I think of when I hear "c0ck juice" like putting a straw into a juice box. With changed hue it may not even be detected by AI, right?

Purple corncob

[D_Bone_Steak]

😂 🤣

[Joshydavid25]

Women also initiate most of the domestic violence with male partners as well.. But I already knew about the Lesbian domestic violence thing.. It just shows that women are capable of evil as men are, and how society many times let's them get away with it.

[D_Bone_Steak]

I believe this to be true... only every couple fight I've seen ever started with a woman starting shit. The guy will be like "awe fuck off, I don't want to argue" and she will just keep going. Sure the dude might eventually pop off with some crazy shit, but still... she started it, kept it going, and pushed that dude to finally slap the shit out of her. ... I'm not going to say that was the correct action to take, but I will say I can't blame the dude when I've seen the whole fight from start to finish.

Guess I'm just a victim blamer. 😂

[Joshydavid25]

Yeah exactly.. People (especially on this site) don't realize how much a lot of women instigate and are often violent themselves.. In most domestic violence situations, both the partners are to blame.. I guess it's just that Hollywood got us thinking the mother is usually an innocent angel, sticking it through with her man, and the man is the monster..

[D_Bone_Steak]

Reminds me of my own domestic violence story. My chick would slap me upside the head like for everything I said... it wasn't soft either... it was some hard slaps. Well, I was driving because she was too drunk to drive... and she did it. Slapped me hard and something finally clicked. I grabbed her by the hair, shoved her face out the door, and started trying to hit mailboxes with her face at high speed.

She didn't hit me again after that, but why she have to push me to that point? I obviously didn't want to go there, but she made sure it had to go there. She basically made me resort to a form of violence just to get her to back off... why? Just why did she force me to be a dick... the kind of dick nobody likes. Man I should've dropped that bitch off at a drunk shelter or something and just went home.

The crazy part though is she respected me more after... I was the man after that. Everything I said had weight and validity after that... trying to smash her head in with mailboxes. They say they want nice guys... but they go for guys like me. Those black pilled dudes might have some points is all I'm saying.

[Joshydavid25]

Geez, yeah that's rough.. That definitely scared some sense into her and probably weirdly got her more attracted to you.. It's a shame it took all of that to get her to finally stop abusing you.. I guess we just gotta watch out for the toxic women..

[Unit1]

I'm getting sick of this "men vs women" trend in these kinds of manners. This topic can't be exhausted and there will always be counterarguments in either direction to no end.

[D_Bone_Steak]

I feel you. There is plenty of "Read their mind" questions out there though. Have you tried the "How do I look" section?

I'm just saying nobody made you come here... but I'm also saying your general feeling towards it is validated. That's why I gave a thumbs up (^_^)

[Unit1]

Yeah, I've seen those. Plenty of them. And pointless too.
I appreciate your point though. Its not like burrying my head into the ground makes it go away. So thanks for that.

[Likes2drive]

Imagine both of them menstruating at the same time, men can usually deal with it better than two women living with each other, many other things that can make it harder, I knew a lesbian woman at work that was married but it didn’t last long, she got divorced and moved out of state

[AngryCarl]

I don't have an explanation but this bears out my experience. I used to have a lesbian couple living in the flat (apartment) above mine. You could hear everything and they spent more time fighting than having sex.

[ImHere22]

You seriously counted and compared the times they had sex with the times you heard arguments? I mean, did you live in a paper apartment where you could hear their every thought, move, stomach gurgling? Stop, stop, just stop acting like the neighborhood watch over here, Carl.

[AngryCarl]

@ImHere22 I can hear sex and I can hear yelling. I don't know what else to tell you.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@ImHere22 I have the same observations of the lesbian couple next door. I can't hear shit but we talk and hang out... and I can also observe from a distance that they don't do the scissors or kiss as much as they hate each other. So I suppose I'm a neighborhood watch as well?

ImHere22, you went down the line of everyone who responded to my question just to have hissy fit after hissy fit... You have woman problems bro? You should hit the weights. 🍭

[PeachyPie93]

Why are girls named Tiffany in the danger zone on the diagram? 🤣

[D_Bone_Steak]

😂 I literally have no fucking idea. I think that's why it makes me laugh so hard... it's just retarded shit that pisses some people off and has the rest of us laughing.

[PeachyPie93]

LOL yeah it made me laugh because my name is Tiffany 🤣

[worldscolide]

Probably because women are worse than men when it comes to things like that. They can deny and deny.. But the reality is in the stats.

[worldscolide]

Additionally Child abuse happens at higher rates in single mother homes, and lesbian homes than happens in straight homes, gay homes, and single father homes.. Same with child neglect, and child murder. Its almost as if they need men to counter that shit.

[D_Bone_Steak]

Boom. You read that stat too about the child abuse? I didn't bring it up because... let's be real I sound bad enough... but women are really bad when you start digging into the facts. My pro-women sentiments got brought down a peg or two. Then I get attacked along with others just for asking questions about it... by women. Woooo damn they hate facts and statistics. Like @worldscolide said, It's almost as if they need men to counter that shit.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

That is pretty much what is expected if both wants to be the one to be taken care of. And of course since they're both women, their victim cards won't work on each other.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

I mean their victim cards for manipulation just can't work on each other

[D_Bone_Steak]

That's right. I mean... I mean it's like one turning to the other to say "How could you do that, I'm just a girl" only X2 (times 2 is a lot if it's already bad enough with one partner doing it 😆)

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Yeah and since their victim cards won't work, they would look for a much more creative way of bringing each other down.