Guys are insecure and competitive with each other, especially about women. These labels are a way for guys to hate on each other and no matter what we do or what we are like we just can't win with these labels, we get criticized regardless. I say we toss the labels, be ourselves, and let things turn out how they will.
@TheUglyFriend_ The girl gets accustomed to a certain type of treatment but never improves herself. She should treat the man with the same love and respect he gives her.
That's an awful way of seeing it! In my opinion when a guy is a real gentleman, it inspire us girls to be real princesses, being kind, loving and grateful for everything he does to us. It's a two way street for me...
"@TheUglyFriend_ The girl gets accustomed to a certain type of treatment but never improves herself. She should treat the man with the same love and respect he gives her."
"That's an awful way of seeing it! In my opinion when a guy is a real gentleman, it inspire us girls to be real princesses, being kind, loving and grateful for everything he does to us. It's a two way street for me..."
@TheUglyFriend_ He just said the same thing that you did lol
@QuestionMan "This ends up ruining them for other men. " How dare they? That's a capital crime. Organize a posse, chase 'm, catch 'm, hang those criminals!
"ruining them for other men" What the fuck does that even mean?
No, you idiot. Lying, cheating, betraying, manipulating, deceiving, omitting, and abusing is ruins women. Not FOR other men, it just ruins them, as people. It souls sucks.
You are young, hopefully it won't be too late before you come to realize.
@jacquesvol @Metlahaed When a woman is treated in a certain way it raises her standards, usually to unrealistic levels that makes it impossible for others to even get there attention. If she's used to a guy having a car, she'll never date a guy without one. If she's used to expensive gifts, than she won't settle for less. The list goes on but I'm sure you get the point.
@Metlahaed I guess the car wasn't the best example. What I'm talking about is the enabling of golddiger behaviour. There's a huge difference between treating a woman as your equal and spending money on her and telling her she's your goddess. The first is perfectly healthy while the second is a direct cause of the princess syndrome which makes that woman un-dateable.
I loled because not every guy that's being good to a woman does it out of manipulation. That's just something to be self-aware of / watch out for. Also you can seek out a woman that appreciates the attention /pampering you give her without finding someone that's emotionally broken, lol. I'm not sure if that's more offensive to the man or the woman, if this is what you're inferring!
White knights ok so they're good, kind and nice etc but they act that way to get laid and are generally insecure and lack confidence. But there a lot of guys out there who respect women and stand up for women of course and HAVE individuality, confidence and assertiveness blah blah. I guess you could use the term White Knight for the try hards who like to suck up women simply to get laid xD
Well, to be more broad, they crave female attention.
But essentially yes, that is pretty much why they act like that. Others are male feminists who feel guilty for having a penis, so will step in any time a woman is being disagreed with, no matter the context.
White knights judging from my perspective and what a lot of the guys here wrote is a male that sucks up to you in order to get in to my pants pretending to be nice
The only difference between white knights and pussies is that white knights defend their woman from all forms of anyone standing up to them for ANY reason without even looking at the situation in the hope that she will one day hand him her vagina on a silver platter.
A real man does what he feels is right regardless.
And yet another douche bag who thinks a guy being nice must be an act. You really can't wrap your head around a guy actually being nice because it is so alien to you.
Ok, ok. Lemme just copy and paste an opinion I made on a white knight question.
Where a real man respects woman while keeping his own self respect and the respect for his own gender, a White Knight treats woman like gods and other men like oppressive rapists either because he wants to get laid because he's such a nice guy or because his mommy raised him with a "the woman is always the boss" mentality.
But men are also looking for their version of a white knight in women: someone who can take care of us when we're injured, cook for us when we're sick and give us excessive sympathy. Both genders want someone who can look after them in different ways.
WKs are just pathetic because they refuse to be themselves in order to get attention from girls online because they are introverted and have no interaction in the real world.
Because in the real world decent people don't or shouldn't exist? Simplistic, really, lol. Let's all be assh*les and the assh*les will feel better about themselves ROFLMAO.
This comment pretty much. The point about white knights isn't that they are nice. The point of why it the term is used derogatory towards certain people is because those white knights are either only or overly nice in hope to get attention and approval of (a) girl (s).
They lack backbone, self-esteem and self-respect and thus are looked down on. Pretty much the very same reason why girls who only dress skimpy for attention or general attention whores are looked down on.
@FakeName123 okay, this may be true, but my problem, the BIG problem i have is that any man with decency to be nice is being confused with one. even if he isn't overly nice. I'm telling u from experience. how is that okay? what if he REALLY is just being nice? and please don't tell me "no guy is nice for no reason" or else that will just make lose hope in all humanity and the way they see the world.
what if he simply has all the backbone, self esteem and self respect in the world, but he sees a problem, it pisses him off and he wants to speak his bloody mind? is this NOT okay in 2016?
I don't think most people are calling out for guys not being nice altogether. Yes, there are fokls calling normally nice guys white knights, but mostly it comes from where Consultant and I said it comes from and that is what we were referring to.
@FakeName123 yeah i understand what u guys are talking about now that like 50 odd people have mentioned it, but i've seen it, and I've been through it where some of ur fellow males sit there being dicks to guys who are just speaking their mind, and it is really REALLY annoying.
Sure, but that wasn't exactly the point of your MyTake. The point of it was that you don't believe in white knights and Consultant and me both explained what we think is a white knight and why its derogatory.
That there are the people you are talking about who are just shitty towards nice people doesn't change the initial point we were making.
I don't see a point in talking about that, because thats the part we both agree with. I don't think anyone here is really complaining about being a decent human being, but a few nutcases. The point solely was about why white-knights are looked down upon.
How are white knights not being themselves? Especially if they really believe in the morals and ideals they claim to?
What else should they be? How can we know that it is not "themselves"? Is it not possible for a male to naturally have the particular group of traits and mannerisms that make someone a "White Knight"?
Not trying to be argumentative, I really just don't get it.
i don't give a shit to be honest. most of them are pointing out their opinion absolutely horrendously, so I'm not gonna respect anything they'll have to say till they know how to talk properly to someone.
To all the girls who say white knights are annoying What would you do without the 100+ plus likes on facebook that you get for ridiculous selfies you take?
well, for one thing it's a little self serving for a woman to give white knights positive reinforcement in every way but the one that really matters, sexually.
A white knight is a Judge that takes my kids based on here say and character witness testimonies provided only through manipulation and coercion, white knights are the politicians who force federal mandates that make no sense in the real world to help families and children - force them through the coercion of taking more federal dough sense is in debt.
And this is all too fitting of a comment based on this take and given the day it is on.
@utopianromance We should make Laws against white knights or simply lynch them: popular justice, have a posse, catch 'm, hang 'm high. @ssh*lism must win. [sarcasm=OFF]
To them yes. Most of them base their self worth on how women react to them. Their baseline self identity is that women tell them they are nice and not like other men who are jerks. They genuinely believe women are nicer and kinder and better than men so crave their approval. Most of them however are not romantically successful with women. Women choosing other 'less nice' men to date and have sex with makes them feel rejected and cheated.
If you're truly open minded, then watch this video. An older mature man named Owen talks and destroys a typical white knight that tries to bring Owen's self esteem down: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDy08-RphI8
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Guys are insecure and competitive with each other, especially about women. These labels are a way for guys to hate on each other and no matter what we do or what we are like we just can't win with these labels, we get criticized regardless. I say we toss the labels, be ourselves, and let things turn out how they will.
As long as being yourself means minding your own fucking business and not butting into conversations then there is no problem
White knights pamper women and give them a sense of entitlement to being treated like princesses. This ends up ruining them for other men.
who's to say that every woman who is pampered will have that sense of entitlement though? it's a very strange conclusion to make.
Well Chris Rock explains it quite well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dGhsRsHXP8
Maybe those other men should learn to treat the person they love the best they can?
@Jayded1 They do but when someone else sets the bar at an unreseanoble level they ruin the girl for everyone else.
Please explain how could you "ruin" the girl? I fail to see how... If anything, you guys should take it as a challenge to improve your own selves
@TheUglyFriend_ The girl gets accustomed to a certain type of treatment but never improves herself.
She should treat the man with the same love and respect he gives her.
That's an awful way of seeing it! In my opinion when a guy is a real gentleman, it inspire us girls to be real princesses, being kind, loving and grateful for everything he does to us. It's a two way street for me...
@TheUglyFriend_ I'm glad you see it that way but many women don't sadly.
"@TheUglyFriend_ The girl gets accustomed to a certain type of treatment but never improves herself. She should treat the man with the same love and respect he gives her."
"That's an awful way of seeing it! In my opinion when a guy is a real gentleman, it inspire us girls to be real princesses, being kind, loving and grateful for everything he does to us. It's a two way street for me..."
@TheUglyFriend_ He just said the same thing that you did lol
@QuestionMan "This ends up ruining them for other men. " How dare they?
That's a capital crime. Organize a posse, chase 'm, catch 'm, hang those criminals!
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"ruining them for other men"
What the fuck does that even mean?
No, you idiot. Lying, cheating, betraying, manipulating, deceiving, omitting, and abusing is ruins women. Not FOR other men, it just ruins them, as people. It souls sucks.
You are young, hopefully it won't be too late before you come to realize.
@jacquesvol @Metlahaed When a woman is treated in a certain way it raises her standards, usually to unrealistic levels that makes it impossible for others to even get there attention. If she's used to a guy having a car, she'll never date a guy without one. If she's used to expensive gifts, than she won't settle for less. The list goes on but I'm sure you get the point.
Right, so lets keep them ignorant, abused, and sheltered, good point there.
@Metlahaed I never said to abuse women where did you get that from?
I said don't spoil them.
@Metlahaed Read what @HikerDude wrote if you don't understand what I'm saying.
I understand. But also "having a car" is not really white knighting LOL
dude, don't bother. -.-
@Metlahaed I guess the car wasn't the best example. What I'm talking about is the enabling of golddiger behaviour. There's a huge difference between treating a woman as your equal and spending money on her and telling her she's your goddess. The first is perfectly healthy while the second is a direct cause of the princess syndrome which makes that woman un-dateable.
I think the problem with rescuers are that they try to exploit women who are in a vulnerable position and get into a position to control the women.
all of them?
Perhaps not all, but at least most of them.
Good observation, definitely have seen that with my own eyes
I loled because not every guy that's being good to a woman does it out of manipulation. That's just something to be self-aware of / watch out for. Also you can seek out a woman that appreciates the attention /pampering you give her without finding someone that's emotionally broken, lol. I'm not sure if that's more offensive to the man or the woman, if this is what you're inferring!
White knights ok so they're good, kind and nice etc but they act that way to get laid and are generally insecure and lack confidence. But there a lot of guys out there who respect women and stand up for women of course and HAVE individuality, confidence and assertiveness blah blah. I guess you could use the term White Knight for the try hards who like to suck up women simply to get laid xD
This is exactly what a White Knight is. Not what the MyTake owner has presented.
@justbanANNAz Very good my take by the way, a lot of points are true and I agree with also.
@astrOnaut01 They do seek to get laid it's the main reason why they act like that (Most anyway)
@astrOnaut01 agree
Well, to be more broad, they crave female attention.
But essentially yes, that is pretty much why they act like that. Others are male feminists who feel guilty for having a penis, so will step in any time a woman is being disagreed with, no matter the context.
@astrOnaut01 Yes I completely agree with you man!
White knights judging from my perspective and what a lot of the guys here wrote is a male that sucks up to you in order to get in to my pants pretending to be nice
okay, but i went with a different definition.
thanks for the input =]
I've given up on trying to save white knights from themselves.
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The only difference between white knights and pussies is that white knights defend their woman from all forms of anyone standing up to them for ANY reason without even looking at the situation in the hope that she will one day hand him her vagina on a silver platter.
A real man does what he feels is right regardless.
And yet another douche bag who thinks a guy being nice must be an act. You really can't wrap your head around a guy actually being nice because it is so alien to you.
Ok, ok. Lemme just copy and paste an opinion I made on a white knight question.
Where a real man respects woman while keeping his own self respect and the respect for his own gender, a White Knight treats woman like gods and other men like oppressive rapists either because he wants to get laid because he's such a nice guy or because his mommy raised him with a "the woman is always the boss" mentality.
I don't think sticking up for people in and of itself is a bad thing, be they male or female.
The real question is, are you thinking with your dick or with your moral compass?
I like this a lot.
But men are also looking for their version of a white knight in women: someone who can take care of us when we're injured, cook for us when we're sick and give us excessive sympathy.
Both genders want someone who can look after them in different ways.
But most important of all: The Black Knight always triumphs!!!
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WKs are just pathetic because they refuse to be themselves in order to get attention from girls online because they are introverted and have no interaction in the real world.
That simple really lol.
LMAO bruh!!! finally someone gets it https://i.imgur.com/RvsGLXz.gif
>_<
@Mistnigqa808 hahaha that gif is just, everything <3
Every time I see a #WK he always seems to be ugly as fuck, fat as hell or weird as fuck IRL for some reason LOL
LMAO it makes me LOL everytime IO see it LOL
@Mistnigqa808 Examples everywhere on Gag tbh
@Mistnigqa808 Hahaha! That gif is going to be what I imagine is behind the screen of every white knight from now on
@astrOnaut01 LMAO LOL HAHAHAHH
@astrOnaut01 all the WKs rally to worship women and everything they say is agreed upon while fapping like the troll behind the computer lol
Precisely lmao
Agreed dude
https://i.imgur.com/RvsGLXz.gif
@TheBraveLion Bro, where the hell did that giff come from haha eWww
@lacorine197 that gif is so creepy.. Lol
@Dipsy @lacorine197 haha @tony72722 showed it to me
@Jayded1 Chances are I make more money than you actually even though you are 40 years old, there's a lot more to me than meets the eye.
I'm an introvert and I am not a white knight.
@BroadMajesticShannon congratulations
@BroadMajesticShannon I didn't generalize, not all introverted kids are wks. No need to be an over sensitive little pussy lol.
Because in the real world decent people don't or shouldn't exist?
Simplistic, really, lol.
Let's all be assh*les and the assh*les will feel better about themselves ROFLMAO.
Assholism will win?
@jacquesvol Like other people before you, You're making assumptions about things I didn't even refer to.
Let's shame those wks!
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Damn, they caught me! :-(
@jacquesvol you're nuts dude
@ConsultantIsBack could you have a problem understanding sarcasm?
@jacquesvol The only smart man on this thread.
@jacquesvol ya i do lol i can't tell online text how could I unless u indicate that?
yup so true I hate bitchy scared men
@skeptic007 yup
This comment pretty much. The point about white knights isn't that they are nice. The point of why it the term is used derogatory towards certain people is because those white knights are either only or overly nice in hope to get attention and approval of (a) girl (s).
They lack backbone, self-esteem and self-respect and thus are looked down on. Pretty much the very same reason why girls who only dress skimpy for attention or general attention whores are looked down on.
@FakeName123 okay, this may be true, but my problem, the BIG problem i have is that any man with decency to be nice is being confused with one. even if he isn't overly nice. I'm telling u from experience. how is that okay? what if he REALLY is just being nice? and please don't tell me "no guy is nice for no reason" or else that will just make lose hope in all humanity and the way they see the world.
what if he simply has all the backbone, self esteem and self respect in the world, but he sees a problem, it pisses him off and he wants to speak his bloody mind? is this NOT okay in 2016?
I don't think most people are calling out for guys not being nice altogether. Yes, there are fokls calling normally nice guys white knights, but mostly it comes from where Consultant and I said it comes from and that is what we were referring to.
@FakeName123 yeah i understand what u guys are talking about now that like 50 odd people have mentioned it, but i've seen it, and I've been through it where some of ur fellow males sit there being dicks to guys who are just speaking their mind, and it is really REALLY annoying.
Sure, but that wasn't exactly the point of your MyTake. The point of it was that you don't believe in white knights and Consultant and me both explained what we think is a white knight and why its derogatory.
That there are the people you are talking about who are just shitty towards nice people doesn't change the initial point we were making.
@FakeName123 I've said twice already that I'm aware of the point u were making.
i thought it would be okay to digress from that and address the point I'm making now but it seems that isn't a good idea. terribly sorry lol.
I don't see a point in talking about that, because thats the part we both agree with. I don't think anyone here is really complaining about being a decent human being, but a few nutcases. The point solely was about why white-knights are looked down upon.
How are white knights not being themselves? Especially if they really believe in the morals and ideals they claim to?
What else should they be? How can we know that it is not "themselves"? Is it not possible for a male to naturally have the particular group of traits and mannerisms that make someone a "White Knight"?
Not trying to be argumentative, I really just don't get it.
Nice Take, but hey, at least White Knights are faithful in a relationship, unlike some other types of guys...
White knights are single and lonely
I know :(
Of course you, as a woman, don't see anything wrong with a white knight.
😴 😴 😴
Also, you're pulling a straw-man. You're completely misrepresenting what "anti-white knighters" are saying.
i don't give a shit to be honest. most of them are pointing out their opinion absolutely horrendously, so I'm not gonna respect anything they'll have to say till they know how to talk properly to someone.
Well, let's talk now. I won't be disrespectful.
Maybe take a chance and listen. Just remember, he's still young.
@SomeOtherGuy she won't have a discussion with me lol
@SomeOtherGuy I think she knows that her argument is flimsy so she doesn't want to risk it.
To all the girls who say white knights are annoying
What would you do without the 100+ plus likes on facebook that you get for ridiculous selfies you take?
I liked the part when the females typed words as if their opinion in this mattered.
This is guy stuff.
give me one reason why it doesn't matter. or is the very core of this white knight label unrelated to women at all?
well, for one thing it's a little self serving for a woman to give white knights positive reinforcement in every way but the one that really matters, sexually.
^^ oh shnap!
White knights are DISABLERS of people who want to do wrong... And I'll leave it at that.
"Responds ambivalently to the partner's success."
Why did that get a tick?
accident.
Oh ok :)
"White Knight" is an insult used by misogynists. That's all there's to it.
That's a very black and white way of looking at it.
A white knight is a Judge that takes my kids based on here say and character witness testimonies provided only through manipulation and coercion, white knights are the politicians who force federal mandates that make no sense in the real world to help families and children - force them through the coercion of taking more federal dough sense is in debt.
And this is all too fitting of a comment based on this take and given the day it is on.
Even though they were hostages in a meth lab raid under her watchful care.
@utopianromance
We should make Laws against white knights or simply lynch them: popular justice, have a posse, catch 'm, hang 'm high.
@ssh*lism must win.
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What does a ungenuine WK want from women anyway? Is attention that important?
To them yes. Most of them base their self worth on how women react to them. Their baseline self identity is that women tell them they are nice and not like other men who are jerks. They genuinely believe women are nicer and kinder and better than men so crave their approval. Most of them however are not romantically successful with women. Women choosing other 'less nice' men to date and have sex with makes them feel rejected and cheated.
@0112358 that sounds really unstable to me. They're probably worse than any bad boy.
""They genuinely believe women are nicer and kinder and better than men so crave their approval.""
Their desperation and clinginess is creepy, hella creepy.
Your take turned to bullshit the moment you bolded your thesis. Move along everyone.
not my fault u don't like reading beyond bold font. this doesn't phase me at all.
If you're truly open minded, then watch this video. An older mature man named Owen talks and destroys a typical white knight that tries to bring Owen's self esteem down:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDy08-RphI8
That mangina can't handle his alcohol