Why some men will be unable to love girls completely later on in life

[Anonymous]

Due to the genetics they were born with, the teaching their parent give them, and the personality they are naturally inclined with. Some men will have a rough time in the dating scene with women.

They usually are average/below average look wise and not 6'0

They've been told by media and their mothers to treat girls with respect, be nice, and even hear girls after getting pump and dump so much that they need a nice guy. So they become nice guys but that isn't good enough. When women say they want nice guys they mean attractive, rich, successful guys who will treat them nice. So now these guys adopt the asshole approach as they see some of success. Some will see susccess and continue on this part others will fail in this endeaver still and revert back to their old natural state.

For those who maintain their integrity to not change themselves for pussy. They'll still be treated badly by women in the dating scene. Some of these girls will blatantly be harsh in their rejection, others will come up with the dumbass lies that anyone whose not retard can pick up, others will act indifferent and show no interest even in casual conversation to you when your reaching out on a topic you both love.

This isn't exclusive to bitches, girls who say they are good girls often treat guys who try to approach women with respect at best as asexual friends and at worst ignore them.

So now many men in their 20's are left with a vacant heart. What was once filled with the opportunity to love is filled with regret of missed opportunity to meet a girl in their youth, spend time together and have fond memories of having a relationship.

Now all that remains is bitter resentment, and regret. Some guys are able to get pass this resentment but they'll always remember the mistreatment.

Now the other side of formula. Many of these men often give up on dating women or spend less time on women and focus on getting money/furthering their education and career.

Fast forward to late 20's and many of the girls who were outright bitches to them or treated them as asexual males are now wanting to pursue them for relationships.and treating them the same way they use to with other men.

Some of these guys are happy with the female attention they get and take the girl at this time. However, for those who aren't clueless of the nature of women many of them will no that deep down that this women does not love him and the relationship is more on security and stability for her.

Others wil date women who are younger but they again no that the only reason the girl is with him is for his money.

So in the end the men who are not totally oblivious to women nature and who get screwed over in dating until they have enough money to be deemed good enough by women to date will always have a mistrust. Even if a girl says "I love you for you" or has sex with him 100x or even acts head over heels crazy for him.

He will never 100% give his heart to her because he knows that deep down she would never have been with him when he was just a broke college student doing classes and trying to get by.

[They are the male equivalent to girls who keep getitng pump and dumped by men]

[nalaa]

That stupid stick man cartoon was clearly created by someone who neither good at arts nor science, because the math just doesn't add up. In your reprosuctive years, there a pretty much equal amount of men and women out there. Yet the cartoon shows 3 guys and two girls, so obviously one of the guys ends up alone. But that's far from reality. In reality there is an equal number of men and women so for every guy that is alone, there is a girl that is alone
They should stop being so whiny and realize that what they're expecting from women they want to date, doesn't go with what they have to offer to those women.

[the_rake]

the point of the cartoon is about the sentiment. there could have been two nice girls and two bitches but only three guys in total. the nice guy would have still been neglected because women prefer attributes related to status (dominance), looks (physicality) and wealth (also related to status and dominance).

[AleDeEurope]

Though I don't think most girls are like this, I do acknowledge the fact that there are guys who have never gotten any female attention until they've started making money. But they're not stupid, they know girls now want them because they have money, which eventually makes them get a negative image of women, and think that every woman that wants them, does it because he now has money, even if that girl wants him for him, and not for his money.
It won't be easy convincing him that she wants him, given that he has never experienced any of that before he had lots of money.

[cth96190]

I understand this essay, although it does not apply to me 100 per cent.
The majority of females (I would estimate about 80 per cent) are drawn to players and sociopathic bad boys, as moths to a flame, between the ages of roughly 15 to 30.
This is known commonly as the bad-boy phase.
They thrive on the emotional drama and heartbreak that is inflicted upon them by the players and bad boys. Life is like a bad soap opera. Were it not so, they would not Friend Zone decent males and go back again and again to some version of the player or bad boy.
About age 30, most of them begin to realise that the players and bad boys are not alpha males. . . they are just assholes.
After that epiphany, they begin to take an interest in the sort of man who would have been relegated to the Friend Zone when they were 20. It has been said that when a woman is 38 she will kill to get the sort of man she rejected when she was 18.
What were the decent men supposed to do, while they waited for the female collective to have their epiphany?
It is not surprising that a significant number of these men become bitter and resentful toward women as a group.
About the age of 30, the larger of a man's two heads begins to do the thinking.
The more intelligent men realise that civil and criminal law has made interaction with females a lose/lose proposition for men.
Ask a woman on a date: risk a sexual-harassment complaint.
Do not ask a woman on a date: risk a false and vexatious sexual-harassment complaint.
Take a woman on a date: risk a false rape complaint.
Have consensual sex with a woman: risk a false rape complaint, when she changes her mind the morning after.
Form a relationship with and cohabit with a woman: risk false and vexatious allegations of spousal rape, domestic violence and of molesting one's own children. Risk everything that he owns being taken from him by a divorce court and given to the female, then being enslaved for life via a child-support order. The current divorce rate of 50 per cent makes this a 50/50 risk for men.
By the time that intelligent men are about 35 they understand these risks and the larger of their two heads is in the driver's seat.
Lingering bitterness and resentment toward women, as a group, is icing on the cake. A man cannot experience two decades of rejection by women who then throw themselves at players and bad boys, who treat these women badly, without forming an unflattering opinion of the female cognitive process.

[Wizbit]

Butt-hurt much?

News flash. Girls don't ignore the "nice guy" for the "jerk". Girls ignore the bitter, self-proclaimed nice guys who are so busy congratulating themselves for being perfect and consoling themselves for being rejected they don't realise they're chasing the female jerks and ignoring the nice girls who are just too plain and nice to be noticed.

Want to get a date with a nice girl? Change your attitude, stop feeling sorry for yourself and GROW UP!!!

[ArchDruidMordred]

The whole point he was trying to make was that even the nice girls prefer the jerks.

[Wizbit]

@ArchDruidMordred really? So I'm some hideous monstrosity with tentacles and nasty streak on par with Cruella De Vil? I've never dated a jerk. While my relationships ended after a while (and we're talking long term on all of them) it was because we grew apart and not because they were jerks. I'll speak for my monstrous friends too. They have exes and none of them were jerks- just guys. One of them only ever dated the one guy and they're married with 2 kids and good jobs. What a female-jerk! I wish a nice guy would come and save me from myself. Oh wait I'm not one of those girls. I'm one of the nasty female-jerks that ignore the nice guys.

Could you do me a favour and tell my bed that either he's a jerk or I am for dating him. Thanks.

[lonerider]

Preach brother!
All I want women to understand from this is that if you reject some guy.. You are not a bitch. It's your choice. But some time down the line, if you want him and he rejects you.. He is not an asshole either. It's his choice. You cannot leave him for someone and come back to him when you're battered and wanting comfort and expect him to be there for you and treat you as nicely as he did befofe. He does not owe you anything. Nobody owes anybody anything.

[hellionthesage]

I do think this happens more frequently then people like to admit but I also think that its not the majority (not yet anyway). This is a product of our society, we no longer restrain base impulses but instead encourage people (and women in particular) to indulge every one of their basic desires, to do without thought of consequence which results in a system that does this (your take) to men. It hurts society as well but unfortunatley until people start realizing this it will continue to worsen.

[rose004b]

I agree with you 100%!

[somebodysaycheese]

Seriously, you angry butt hurt men on GAG who just wait for the opportunity to shit on women is foul, most of you probably can't wait for female sex robots to be a thing. But the sadist part is men like you exist in real life, do you ever wonder maybe the problem is you not the girls. Stop playing victim, your not entitled to pussy at all

[skeptic007]

there are some truths here and some lies or more too say assumptions

but this right here is me

He will never 100% give his heart to her because he knows that deep down she would never have been with him when he was just a broke college student doing classes and trying to get by

[nalaa]

That's BS. In another discussion someone linked this
cdn.okcimg.com/.../...stributionByIncomeBright.png

which he thought was interesting because it proves that women don't really care about money. It doesn't matter at all if you're college aged and even after that it doesn't matter beyond having a solid income of 30k a year

[skeptic007]

@nalaa

what does a message have to do with a women actually caring about the guy
I can show you the messages I get doesn't mean anything
hun do some research most women are exactly what the bible says
adulteress, there are very few good girls out there not many

[myTake Owner]

The graph actually supports that women care about money actually. If you look from left to right (we transition from red - low message to green - high amount of messages).

SO yes she just posted proof that money does matter a great deal to women even if they make their own.

[nalaa]

Where does the bible say that? Show me the passage

It matters because the opinion of your salary doesn't change the longer you date.

But I mean I get you're hopeless, I was just thinking someone else might be interested

[skeptic007]

@nalaa
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God
have you lied yes
have you cheated yes
have you killed yes
have you done favoritism yes
have most women done adultery yes
hun I can keep going,

we are sinners hun and if you expect me to believe all these girls are angels lol
hahaha nope won't happen

[nalaa]

I meant give me the passage. As in John 1:240 I don't know something like that. Because without context it's nothing.
From what I can tell, he talk some particular individual, male or female. And I actually couldn't quite find the passage you qouted. The closest I found was Romans 3:23

"for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus" but none of that have you done this or that crab, which sounds like you made it up. So ya, please DO keep going and tell me what exact passage you mean there

[skeptic007]

@nalaa
that passage has everything to do with the human race in general

And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually
genesis 6:5

hun I can go through many passages like this, talking about the human race and there lust, greed, love of money, and we can see it all today in real life with our own eyes not much has changed the human race always repeats itself

porn is lust and money
women date rich ugly guys for money

For by means of a whorish woman a man is brought to a piece of bread: and the adulteress will hunt for the precious life.
proverbs 6:26

same thing always repeats itself, even when it comes to what people consider a powerful country

[elew4too]

"He will never 100% give his heart to her because he knows that deep down she would never have been with him when he was just a broke college student doing classes and trying to get by." <-- This is the most real sentence I may have ever read

[Anonymous]

tl;dr: women find some guys more attractive than others. and dating is way harder for the less attractive guys.

op:. that's life... you will be better than others at some stuff, and worse than others at other stuff. sadly, you happened to be on the loser side when it comes to women. the only thing you can do about it is to learn to live with it.

[joeb73]

very good my take. i can see this happening with ether sex. all that would be needed is a few words changed.
but this is one of the best explanations of how how one gets a jaded heart

[dudeman]

thats why i tell men to never take a women seriously over that age of 23

[Anonymous]

if you can't cope with women go to prostitutes. its a realistic solution and without the drama. well young girls can be immature bitches but we were imature bitches too for letting them hurt us.

[Chief16]

So... Are we talking about you?

[nalaa]

Well wishful thinking maybe. He hopes that when he turns 40 women will magically want him. Of course most good women will be married and have kids by then, so he's bound to get hurt again. It's a self fulfilling prophecy

[Chief16]

@nalaa lots of this stuff is just biased. I don't know why people take their personal views and generalize it. I know for a fact that most men in real life aren't like this.

[Anonymous]

this bullshit is not a product of realism.