Who pays on the first date? NO ONE, if you stop asking women out... Not being asked out by girls? WHO cares... see my first comment.. How much time it takes girls to get ready? WHO cares... you're not dating them... Hormone / Period... see above... Women Want in? see my first comment.
Everything on this list and all other nonsense can be avoided if you follow a very simple philosophy.
DISREGARD females...
And in doing so, you will eventually ACQUIRE gainz.
1. A real man always pays. 2. A real man approaches and actively pursues women. A real man does not wait to be approached. 3. I mostly wear blue-jeans and solid-colored t-shirts. 4. Women who dress in a provocative should expect men to think they’re “easy”. 5. A real man is happy to wait for his woman while she pretties herself up for him. 6. A real man is supportive and emotionally-available whilst his woman is menstruating. 7. A real woman knows her place in the natural-order. She knows evolution has designed her to be a wife, mother, and nurturer, not a leader or warrior.
"real men" do whatever they like. I believe men and women should be treated equally, this includes getting rid of the expectation that men should always pay.
Any woman who believes this will only date passive guys or are gonna get played eventually. If i meet a girl who acts like this, im gonna lie to her. Im gonna pretend im all those things just to fuck her once and ghost her. Not for my own pleasure but for the pleasure of fucking with a fucked up girls head to make women who believe this more closed off to men. Women who believe such things should NOT be dating and staying as far away from men as possible
You can't have it both ways ladies. Either you want to be treated as equals, or you want things to stay the same. From your list you seem to want both. You can't cherry pick what you want to be equals in. SO women need to start asking men out, paying for dates without holding it against the guy, etc...
1 & 2 basically say that 'despite relationships and dates being a two way thing, men should get over the fact that they have to put all the work in.'
lol okay. by the way i've been asked out. a few times in fact ;)
3 & 4 kinda contradict each other... if 'women don't dress up for men' then why should men dress up for women? 5 also adds to your contradiction of 'not dressing up for men' yet here you're saying '... but men like the final result.'
6. i've had very painful physical things happen to me in my life-- i never felt the need for anything here nor did i act like a bitch to those around me due to it.
7. men have no issues if you want to do those things or get equality or whatever-- what men DO have a problem with is the fact that majority of women GET said things they whine about and then WHINE EVEN FURTHER when it backfires on them-- see your points of 1 & 2 for proof ;)
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"1. Get over who pays for the first date 2. Get over not being asked out by girls" Well guys are just completely screwed in that regard then, they have to ask and they have to pay.
"4. Get over the idea that all girls are dressing up for you" Nah. Most of us dress and want to look nice for other people, we want other people to view us as put together and there's nothing wrong with that.
"5. Get over how much time it takes us to get ready (or shop)" It's annoying when women act like someone elses time isn't valuable, the amount of time that some women take is just disrespectful most of the time.
"6. Get over the hormone/period hating" Agree with that, men are actually the biggest babies ever when they're sick, so they can cut us some slack for a week out of the month.
"7. Get over the fact that women want in" True, what do men expect women to do? Just sit around waiting for them to protect and speak for us, I would rather learn how to handle myself.
Number one is a little too easy for you to say. "whoever invites should pay, look how equal I am!"
You damn well KNOW that men are expected to make the first move (as proven by number two). Chances are you have never asked a guy out. You're a hypocrite, and you're sexist. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.
You're just being bitter because women are ACTUALLY being treated equally. The good parts and the bad parts, too. Sorry princess, time to get out of the 1950's.
Honestly, it's people like the asker who give women a bad name. The sheer sense of entitlement in this myTake is astounding. I honestly hope you end up alone with 9 cats, no guy deserves to be treated like that.
How about you get over the fact that I'm not going to get over things you'd like me to get over for the sake of your personal convenience because your personal convenience ranks really low on the list of things I care about. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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7 things women need to get over. Refer to above drivel.
"Men just have to do these things" Actually we don't. Gee I wonder why we want nothing more to do with you after we get layed. I wonder why men are refusing to commit more and more.
Mostly agree, except 4 and 7. If any woman in the world ever dressed up "for herself", she would walk around the house with high heels, a dress and make up etc. Nobody does that. Thats one of the funniest female lies ever. As for number 7, its fine for every person to have desires, but feminism is the most retarded movement out there, and its a cancer to society
Lmao, you tell men to "get over it" then you ended your take by basically saying "I don't like this, so change it". Take your own advice and GET OVER IT.
1. Fair. 2. I'm usually the one being asked out. But nevertheless I agree thatit's not a real problem compared to real problems the world has... 3. Regadless of gender and of my personal preferences of style, society needs to be less judgmental of what people choose to wear. 4. Fair. 5. One can take as long as she/he wants do do that. But other people are not obligated to waste their time waiting. The world doesn't revolve around you. 6. Fair. 7. Very fair :)
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2. Specifically for this... it's not that there aren't women that don't ask men out, it's just if you ask the majority of men, they tend to report that they do probably 90% of the asking out in terms of who asked who out for their first date. 3. True 5. True, but not so much when you're a couple seeing as how you usually travel together--like if you're going out to eat, you're not going to leave and go to the restaurant and sit there and wait. I don't ask my boyfriend to go shopping with me because I know there is no point in him being there. I'd rather go with my girlfriends or he drops me off and goes to where he wants. It's always made sense to me and him.
Women need to get over them selfs and realize your vagina is not made gold. Women need to get over the fact that a man isn't going hand you everything.
Don't tell us what to do and focus on yourself. You act as if the entire population of males is against women, so, let's totally forget that there are also guys that support women's rights and tell them what to do just it's based off my standards of how a man should be :)
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The major reason guys ask and pay the first date, is because women expect them to, and if they don't, they're seen as cheap. Its a lose lose situation really when women these days ask for equality, and equity (rightfully so) but then demand that men still play old fashioned gender roles and do all the initiating, planning, and paying for the first couple of days. You can't have it the best of both worlds.
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Don't tell me you don't take advantage of this as a woman and tell me that we have to suck this shit up
equality has to do with equal pay, equal voting rights, equal insurance coverage... things of that nature. not paying for a date. The guy has to initiate, always cuz the wiring dictates it. Guys never ever appreciate financial help... sometimes they dont pay the girl back... after like 5,6 dates, the girl can maybe, offer to pay him in the car or at home not in public, her part of the date, drinks or whatever... thats it. If the guy cries about this he is not a man that will be THE MAN and you will always be disappointed.
@feliz Women already have equal pay and equal voting rights, they get better insurance coverage and cheaper rates simply for being female. But yet still manage to expect men to cover their ass financially for dating and other things. Nothing dictates who asks who first except social convention. Women expect it because they are raised to expect it. Guys appreciate a girl paying but we can't admit to it because we are shamed as cheap if we do. That's it.
I take it you must be a feminist? Yes? In that case you ought to be asking guys out, if you really want things to be like you say, you know, equal.
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1. Doesn't bother me at all. 2. That's the main problem, I'm too shy to ask first. 3. I can't stand dress codes. 4. No problem here. 5. I prefer tomboyish girls, not "girly girls", so long time to get ready is not an issue anyway. 6. No problem, it's all natural. 7. Of course, it's understandable, I support women's rights.
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DISREGARD females, ACQUIRE gainz!
Who pays on the first date? NO ONE, if you stop asking women out...
Not being asked out by girls? WHO cares... see my first comment..
How much time it takes girls to get ready? WHO cares... you're not dating them...
Hormone / Period... see above...
Women Want in? see my first comment.
Everything on this list and all other nonsense can be avoided if you follow a very simple philosophy.
DISREGARD females...
And in doing so, you will eventually ACQUIRE gainz.
1. A real man always pays.
2. A real man approaches and actively pursues women. A real man does not wait to be approached.
3. I mostly wear blue-jeans and solid-colored t-shirts.
4. Women who dress in a provocative should expect men to think they’re “easy”.
5. A real man is happy to wait for his woman while she pretties herself up for him.
6. A real man is supportive and emotionally-available whilst his woman is menstruating.
7. A real woman knows her place in the natural-order. She knows evolution has designed her to be a wife, mother, and nurturer, not a leader or warrior.
4. *** provocative-manner
Why the down-votes? I'm honestly curious.
"real men" do whatever they like. I believe men and women should be treated equally, this includes getting rid of the expectation that men should always pay.
Any woman who believes this will only date passive guys or are gonna get played eventually. If i meet a girl who acts like this, im gonna lie to her. Im gonna pretend im all those things just to fuck her once and ghost her. Not for my own pleasure but for the pleasure of fucking with a fucked up girls head to make women who believe this more closed off to men. Women who believe such things should NOT be dating and staying as far away from men as possible
You can't have it both ways ladies. Either you want to be treated as equals, or you want things to stay the same. From your list you seem to want both. You can't cherry pick what you want to be equals in. SO women need to start asking men out, paying for dates without holding it against the guy, etc...
1 & 2 basically say that 'despite relationships and dates being a two way thing, men should get over the fact that they have to put all the work in.'
lol okay.
by the way i've been asked out. a few times in fact ;)
3 & 4 kinda contradict each other... if 'women don't dress up for men' then why should men dress up for women? 5 also adds to your contradiction of 'not dressing up for men' yet here you're saying '... but men like the final result.'
6. i've had very painful physical things happen to me in my life-- i never felt the need for anything here nor did i act like a bitch to those around me due to it.
7. men have no issues if you want to do those things or get equality or whatever-- what men DO have a problem with is the fact that majority of women GET said things they whine about and then WHINE EVEN FURTHER when it backfires on them-- see your points of 1 & 2 for proof ;)
"1. Get over who pays for the first date 2. Get over not being asked out by girls"
Well guys are just completely screwed in that regard then, they have to ask and they have to pay.
"4. Get over the idea that all girls are dressing up for you"
Nah. Most of us dress and want to look nice for other people, we want other people to view us as put together and there's nothing wrong with that.
"5. Get over how much time it takes us to get ready (or shop)"
It's annoying when women act like someone elses time isn't valuable, the amount of time that some women take is just disrespectful most of the time.
"6. Get over the hormone/period hating"
Agree with that, men are actually the biggest babies ever when they're sick, so they can cut us some slack for a week out of the month.
"7. Get over the fact that women want in"
True, what do men expect women to do? Just sit around waiting for them to protect and speak for us, I would rather learn how to handle myself.
Number one is a little too easy for you to say. "whoever invites should pay, look how equal I am!"
You damn well KNOW that men are expected to make the first move (as proven by number two). Chances are you have never asked a guy out. You're a hypocrite, and you're sexist. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.
You're just being bitter because women are ACTUALLY being treated equally. The good parts and the bad parts, too. Sorry princess, time to get out of the 1950's.
Honestly, it's people like the asker who give women a bad name. The sheer sense of entitlement in this myTake is astounding. I honestly hope you end up alone with 9 cats, no guy deserves to be treated like that.
How about you get over the fact that I'm not going to get over things you'd like me to get over for the sake of your personal convenience because your personal convenience ranks really low on the list of things I care about.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
7 things women need to get over. Refer to above drivel.
"Men just have to do these things"
Actually we don't. Gee I wonder why we want nothing more to do with you after we get layed.
I wonder why men are refusing to commit more and more.
Mostly agree, except 4 and 7. If any woman in the world ever dressed up "for herself", she would walk around the house with high heels, a dress and make up etc. Nobody does that. Thats one of the funniest female lies ever. As for number 7, its fine for every person to have desires, but feminism is the most retarded movement out there, and its a cancer to society
Lmao, you tell men to "get over it" then you ended your take by basically saying "I don't like this, so change it". Take your own advice and GET OVER IT.
1. Fair.
2. I'm usually the one being asked out. But nevertheless I agree thatit's not a real problem compared to real problems the world has...
3. Regadless of gender and of my personal preferences of style, society needs to be less judgmental of what people choose to wear.
4. Fair.
5. One can take as long as she/he wants do do that. But other people are not obligated to waste their time waiting. The world doesn't revolve around you.
6. Fair.
7. Very fair :)
2. Specifically for this... it's not that there aren't women that don't ask men out, it's just if you ask the majority of men, they tend to report that they do probably 90% of the asking out in terms of who asked who out for their first date.
3. True
5. True, but not so much when you're a couple seeing as how you usually travel together--like if you're going out to eat, you're not going to leave and go to the restaurant and sit there and wait. I don't ask my boyfriend to go shopping with me because I know there is no point in him being there. I'd rather go with my girlfriends or he drops me off and goes to where he wants. It's always made sense to me and him.
Ok yes, so I think in general I agree with what you say.
I don't agree with any of this. You need to get over yourself.
8. Get over women entirely and ignore their very existence.
#7 seems to be a bit hypocritical coming after those other 6 points.
I actually don't mind wearing a suit. But i pull off suits pretty well.
I don't think guys will ever get over any of these things just like girls won't get over any of the stuff you talked about in 7.
Women need to get over them selfs and realize your vagina is not made gold. Women need to get over the fact that a man isn't going hand you everything.
Don't tell us what to do and focus on yourself. You act as if the entire population of males is against women, so, let's totally forget that there are also guys that support women's rights and tell them what to do just it's based off my standards of how a man should be :)
The major reason guys ask and pay the first date, is because women expect them to, and if they don't, they're seen as cheap. Its a lose lose situation really when women these days ask for equality, and equity (rightfully so) but then demand that men still play old fashioned gender roles and do all the initiating, planning, and paying for the first couple of days. You can't have it the best of both worlds.
Don't tell me you don't take advantage of this as a woman and tell me that we have to suck this shit up
equality has to do with equal pay, equal voting rights, equal insurance coverage... things of that nature. not paying for a date. The guy has to initiate, always cuz the wiring dictates it. Guys never ever appreciate financial help... sometimes they dont pay the girl back... after like 5,6 dates, the girl can maybe, offer to pay him in the car or at home not in public, her part of the date, drinks or whatever... thats it. If the guy cries about this he is not a man that will be THE MAN and you will always be disappointed.
@feliz Women already have equal pay and equal voting rights, they get better insurance coverage and cheaper rates simply for being female. But yet still manage to expect men to cover their ass financially for dating and other things.
Nothing dictates who asks who first except social convention. Women expect it because they are raised to expect it.
Guys appreciate a girl paying but we can't admit to it because we are shamed as cheap if we do. That's it.
I take it you must be a feminist? Yes? In that case you ought to be asking guys out, if you really want things to be like you say, you know, equal.
1. Doesn't bother me at all.
2. That's the main problem, I'm too shy to ask first.
3. I can't stand dress codes.
4. No problem here.
5. I prefer tomboyish girls, not "girly girls", so long time to get ready is not an issue anyway.
6. No problem, it's all natural.
7. Of course, it's understandable, I support women's rights.