Desperados, Thanks for Ruining it for the Rest of Us

[Tdieseler]

Acts of Desperation

There has been an epidemic that has been steadily spreading and growing since millennials began, the affliction of desperation in males for the attention of females. Every day I see or hear of at least 20 cases of where some guy is fiending/drooling/aiming/chasing...etc after some female, and the days I go online, especially on GaG, that number increases exponentially.

It’s so horrible. I hop on Xbox, sure it’s mostly guys, it’s all cool, then over the headset comes a female voice and you can literally hear the microphones coming on and the drool dropping. Gamers know that there are always those people who just mute their microphones, but I’ve heard these same gamers turn it on just because they heard a female voice. Don’t even get me started about forums and chat rooms…I don’t even go on those anymore. Its gets out of topic because of the numerous males “trying” to chat up the female ones.

My question about this, is that, these people are ONLINE, a bunch of letters and maybe a picture. So you get to chatting? Then what? The moment you go offline, its back to your lonely existence. You want friends or a relationship? Go OUTSIDE!!

You see a lot of males crying about the fact that they aren’t getting attention from girls or that they got rejected or they don’t know how to approach some female, and the list goes on…You don’t see as many girls crying about it…with good reason...they aren't making the same mistake. What you guilty males are doing is creating the SAME problem you are crying about. Females are just human beings, in my case, I treat em like I do my boys. If I have something to say/do, I fucking say/do it. And you should do the same. What you males are doing is creating the same problem, you claim to be having. (Just like women create games, then turn around and say they hate “Players” lol or guys are "playing games", but that’s a topic for another time.) I just said you morons are part of the problem right?…let me attempt to explain.

Trial and Error

Starting from the beginning, I know most guys have to use the Theory of Elimination when it comes to choosing women (apparently, if a guy only likes one girl and doesn't have eyes for another it is deemed obsession, infatuation, or in some cases, stalking lol). For those who don’t know what that is, the Theory of Elimination is basically trial and error with a hierarchy. You have many options, and you start from the best option and work your way down.

Let’s say Guy likes Cindy a lot, has a crush on Beth, and thinks Veronica has nice hair he’d like to feel. The hierarchy is Cindy, Beth, Veronica. Guy plucks up some courage and asks Cindy out, and she shoots him down like the 10million other guys she has done so to...now guess who is next up on the “like” list…Beth. A lot of women have asked me why guys can’t just like one woman…because it only takes a “no” to destroy all that, most guys, not all like to have options, guys don’t always have the luxury of having many people showing some kind of interest all the time, which brings me back to my topic of desperate guys.

Cause

Women get hit on a lot in the span of a day, usually by the desperate fucks using pick-up lines, cash, wealth, looks…whatever. This is how the problem starts…putting them up on pedestals…some of these guys can’t even look a girl in the eye, or get so nervous and awkward when around one that it is ridiculous. Hence the reason a ton of them resort to online approaches…the screen defense. Back to my story, in hitting on them so many times, you create something I call a “Buffet” …it means for every one of you that hits on her, should she be interested, she could just reach out and pluck anyone of you for any reason. And let me guess, you’d feel “honored” that she did…right? Wrong!! You are just one of the many many options she has…you just happen to have what she wants at the time. And when that’s gone, it’s off to option number whatever.

Effect

That right there is what gives a lot of women that sense of entitlement that they have, these desperados are the ones that make women think they can say/do anything and get away with it because people like you Boys LET THEM, why? In the hopes that she “picks you” or you get sex. You put them on pedestals and literally worship them and then you get mad because they, like gods put on pedestals, ignore your dumbass.

How about you stop being so desperate, they, like you, are only human beings, going about their lives. Women fool/lie to themselves on a day to day basis, guys like me don’t need you other guys making that worse.

---Because of guys like you, I can’t have a decent conversation with a girl because she’s going to think I’m trying to butter her up to get in her pants.

---Because of guys like you, I can’t turn down an offer from a woman who thinks im part of y’alls “Buffet” without being asked if I’m gay or if something is wrong with me down there.

---Because of guys like you, women can make up whatever fucking stupid ass relationship rule and expect me to follow it because guys like you do.

---Because of guys like you, guys like me are dumped with a whole bunch of expectations and not allowed to be our true selves.

---Because of guys like you, guys like me miss out on numerous compatible partners because the moment we make a move, we are grouped in with the 20,000 desperate fucks who cat called, and already hit on her reckless before she got to us.

---Because of guys like you, guys like me have to work extra hard to redefine the term “Gentleman” because fucks like you have turned it into “Doormat”.

---Because of guys like you…I had to finally write this article, and believe me, this list goes on.

You want a girl? …work on yourself, rather than feel like having a girl will be your motivation, just like girls who can’t keep a boyfriend, then think marriage is the solution (dumbasses lol). Women, like bees, flock to where the nectar is. So produce some, or shut up.

[WesleyPullen]

I see i've walked into an echo chamber.

Here's the problem mate, they condition a bunch of horny little children all through life cause their parents are too dumb or lazy to sufficiently take care of them. So they grow up not knowing how to think past emotions and end up acting them out. I imagine you're a product of this and you've just submitted under the feminist rule of law.

I know to keep my mouth shut, but when someone is so clearly dressed like a whore it's hard to not look at least out of PITY.

So while she gets cheered on for basically ruining the divinity of her body, she ends up wondering why no one ever appreciates it. It creates a very technical psychological vacuum that most thinkers simply can't manage out of.

However the women who could use a cat call sit here on the sidelines seeing you political activists make idiots of yourselves. Honestly I find them more beautiful then I think I could find people here. (haven't seen much good here yet).

I get the feeling you guys don't care that telling a girl how cute or beautiful she is on that day could result in a possibly lifesaving experience. And you want to limit that...

CAUSE NOBODY FUCKING CATCALLED YOU AND YOUR MISERABLE BECAUSE OF IT.

[WesleyPullen]

Stop blaming your problems on other people.

[Tdieseler]

You are so off point that its astounding. What kinda idiocy are you blathering about.
Im saying that guys should stop catcalling and crying for not getting female attention, and you are trying to make it sound like IM the one doing the catcalling and want female attention.

To be honest, what i wrote up there doesn't really affect me much, because women approach Me. But sometimes when i do the approaching, especially in cases where im actually interested and not just challenging myself to see if i still got "it", when im actually interested and make a move and get turned away, i understand the reason why. The thousands of other fucks who probably catcalled at first.
Im a hunter, my pick up ratio is quite high, or at least used to be. Now, i just don't give a fuck about that shit anymore. turns out, thats when women begin to approach you.

[WesleyPullen]

Oh wait, is this a guide for anti socialites to readjusting in the real world?

[WesleyPullen]

Has the thought come to mind that maybe... you're just not good enough?

[Tdieseler]

Still missing the point... im not talking about me here. Plus im not searching for pussy, im beyond that.
"... complimented this woman"... isn't a compliment supposed to be accepted? last i checked, respectable women don't really take to been catcalled or wolfwhisted at...
oh wait... you stay in a community or OTHER brainless morons who can't seem to read and know when a person is talking about themselves or a group. So being catcalled is a compliment.
My bad. i get it now.

And stop acting like some idiot badass online..."oh look at me, telling another guy i don't know anything about that he can't get pussy"...
pfft... like you get any yourself. keep looking for pussy mate... what i wrote about has NOTHING to do with pussy.

[WesleyPullen]

How progressive of you, to understand the viewpoint of another, not an internet bad ass, although I have access to them.

If you didn't write this for you, and you're proclaiming that "you ruined it for the rest of us". Seems to me like you have absolutely no say in the matter then.

Moral grandstanding and virtue signaling will end soon enough but before all of that... You didn't answer my question.

Do you use a white dude for your bull?

[lord_chilled]

Funny how the biggest cuckolds always try to make other guys look like cucks

[redeyemindtricks]

"Because of guys like you, guys like me miss out on numerous compatible partners..."

^^ The flipside of this is: Having passed these "tests", you have much greater assurance than otherwise that yr woman actually DOES value you -- and that she's not just gna run off tomorrow with a new boy who tickles her fancy in some trivial way that you don't.

I mean... You seem to be implying, to be blunt, that women should just be less discriminating.
Why the hell would you want THAT? The net result would just be a whole lot of "relationship ADHD", where both men AND women would always be chasing the latest Shiny Thing!, and you could never be quite sure whether you were just the first warm body that happened to line up at yr woman's door that day.

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Also, I believe pretty much right down to the bottom of my heart that if you'd insta-reject someone, then, no matter what, at the end of the day she/he is NOT "a compatible partner".

First impressions are strong -- for a reason. Our subconscious mind is a fuck of a lot smarter than our conscious mind... and you can only force shit to flow uphill for so long.

[Tdieseler]

Someone here said something similar to this as well. Im definitely not saying just accept everyone... the person here said a man or woman should be able to differentiate between a genuine person and riff raff... and if they don't, and pull an insta-reject, like you and she said, they were not compatible anyway.

[redeyemindtricks]

👍✌️

[Martina_Heidegger]

Catcalling is almost exclusively a low IQ non-white phenomenon. Socialism has married women to the state, making them promiscuous because they no longer have to be nice to men to get resources, because the state will steal them for the women. All women have to do is whine and cry for bigger government with their votes.

Then there's the beta orbiters who follow what these women say to the letter, in the hopes of getting the reward of pussy, which of course never happens because women hate weaklings.

[Tdieseler]

Hear Hear

[Barrabus_the_Free]

Wow... an honest woman...

You probably don't have any female 'friends', do you? Women hate honesty, and would consider what you wrote to be traitorous.

That's ok, women aren't capable of friendship anyway.

Keep up the honesty. It's refreshing.

[bcapps]

fantastic.

[Blake0048]

Summed it up pretty well

[PunkinPie]

Um you guys know she was a troll whose account got removed, right? Lol

[Tdieseler]

@PunkinPie thats news... thanks for letting us know.

[Anonymous]

I know exactly what you are saying... I just sit back and watch the circus. I see guys at work desperately drooling and panting over the new girl, I see them constantly smothering others all of the time. But for the most part, those girls aren't interested anyway.

Here are a few examples. Some guy is drooling over a girl at work because she came in wearing leggings, he goes up to her saying how sexy he thinks she is. After he's gone, she looks over to me and asks ''so what do you think?''

Another example, really hot new girl joins. I see at least 8 guys around her. I sit back watching and shaking my head. She notices me, leaves all of the other guys, and joins me while I'm having my coffee break.

Another one, nice looking Asian girl is being followed around by a bunch of guys. Later one of the guys approaches me and asks why she comes over to me instead of him.

I'm not looking to date or anything, I gave up on all of that crap ages ago. But you can see the pattern clearly... women can smell desperation a mile away...

[LordIheanacho]

Finally a man that stands up and speaks this truth! You can't imagine how many of these pathetic manginas and white-knights I had to tolerate in my ENTIRE life! It's toxic beyond recognition and a major reason I'm a nihilist.

My only disagreement is your redefinition of "gentleman" and how the manginas turned it into "doormat". Personally I heavily disagree. Gentleman was always a mangina-constructed word, albeit from a traditionalist perspective, and they also are very guilty of pedestal-raising females, ala. "ladies first!" or throwing your coat on the mud for her to walk over, even "don't hit females" was invented by these tradcons. I never considered myself a "gentleman" because that would go against everything I stand for. I never enjoyed holding anyone's hand regardless of their gender, (actually, holding female hands sickens me even more now).

In my early life, I'd say I was a "neutral" but now, I'm more so a "rebel" at this point. Despite this however I used to still spend my years helping women, just not in the way the manginas do it. Instead, I'd do it the smart and egalit way. I'd toughen them up a little or like you, I'd treat them as I would my male friends (with the very few obvious exceptions involving their biological constraints, such as pregnancy), because I truly cared for equality and equity but I wanted it done the RIGHT way.

Nowadays with our current society, we can't even make it happen anymore (if there was a chance at all to begin with), and quite frankly, i'd rather just go the MGTOW route instead until things get better (and this year I finally did). If not, well...

Better I die miserably alone than to die a socially desperate sheep.

[TheHumanisticTheory]

---Because of guys like you, guys like me miss out on numerous compatible partners because the moment we make a move, we are grouped in with the 20,000 desperate fucks who cat called, and already hit on her reckless before she got to us.

**If she can't distinguish cat callers from a gentleman trying to get to know her, then she's a bit too dense for someone like you to deal with. Not your loss.

---Because of guys like you, guys like me have to work extra hard to redefine the term “Gentleman” because fucks like you have turned it into “Doormat”.

**Again, a woman worth your time will know the difference. I think the men who do call others a doormat deserve to hear this though. What do you mean when you say "redefine the term" though, because I think you should just keep doing your own thing.

[Tdieseler]

Well, my definition of a gentleman is a guy that knows when to do something chivalrous for a woman, BUT also knows when not to.
the people im referring to here, are the ones that just kiss ass. Do everything. No backbone. all in the hopes of not "offending" her.

[Blake0048]

I agree but its unattractive if she even attempts to walk on me as a "test" makes me instantly lose any attraction I had.

[Tdieseler]

@Blake0048 I totally agree, and women do test... and sometimes needlessly... and I've seen some very very bad tests that ended up ruining the relationship because it took away trust. and guess what the woman's conclusion was?
"he didn't love me"
but she started that "test"... could have left shit alone.

[bekkesmash]

"Produce some" yet women just have to exist. It's basic biology, women are innate sex objects, shit even "straight" girls are more aroused by the female body than the male body indiana.edu/.../Chivers_Seto_Blanchard_2007.pdf (scientific proof of that). Women complain about being sex objects without realizing it is the biggest biological advatge women have, if they weren't sex objects the world would care far less about them.

[bekkesmash]

1% of men can knock up 100% of women, so most men are superfluous to reproduction, and women have far higher sexual value. Women say "ooh I am oppressed and sexually objectified" well bitch that is your main value!

[Tdieseler]

Very true. I've actually written about this.. but i was a bit more brash than you are. and I've heard the scientific proof too. doesn't mean they aren't attracted by men though.
The way i put mine was "... take away their vagina, and what else do they have to offer..." it was in my Take "Show Me Your Man card".

[Valkyrie1]

@bekkesmash Men are not superfluous for reproduction 1% of men can't knock up 100% of women well for maybe 1 generation maybe but not afterward genetic diversity is key for a healthy population. Its not basic biology that women are innate sex objects its basic biology that EVERYONE is an innate sex object if you haven't had kids you technically failed in an evolutionary sense. However, human populations are well above sustainable levels we as a species have developed beyond the need to procreate. Women want to be valued as individuals just like everyone else.

[bekkesmash]

It's not a practical number, it's the potential numbers made available by reproductive fitness dynamics that show why women have a far highers sexual value. I wish men were sex objects to anywere near the degree women are, it would make life much easier for men. Womens' greatest value is sex, and that's the way you want it, if it weren't so, life would be far worse for women. @Valkyrie1

[Valkyrie1]

"reproductive fitness dynamics" That isn't even a phrase that exists in biology. Stop pretending you know what you're talking about. Being seen as a sex object is why women are abused and assaulted by men who don't see them as people.

[bekkesmash]

It's just reproductive fitness with the word dynamics on the end, which makes semantic sense in explaining it. Men are the majority of assault and murder victims on every continent. It has drawbacks but more pros, it makes dating and sex easy for women, men will pay for and do things for you because you have a vagina. With your last response you seemingly agree that women are sex objects to a FAR higher degree than men.

[Valkyrie1]

That's not what reproductive fitness means either. Lol. Yeah no. I'm done with conversation.

[bekkesmash]

It is, it's about potential reproductive success, but in this case we talk about purely sex rather than chance of offspring.

[Valkyrie1]

No because it isn't even a real biological word. Fitness and reproductive success are two separate thongs. Where do you get your science sounding buzzwords from? The redpill "science" section?

[Valkyrie1]

You want to be objectified and treated like an object or lesser animal thats fine. We can build you a nice enclosure toss you the occasional hunk of meat and let you out every once in while for the entertainment of others. It would make things easier for you afterall you can be the mindless sex beast you want to be.

[bekkesmash]

Reproductive fitness is a proper biological term I just typed it into google to double check.

[Valkyrie1]

Dude the very first results just says fitness and the second is an article that explains how fitness are reproductive sucess are NOT the same thing. Show me the links.

[bekkesmash]

I don't know the Wikipedia page says that biological fitness describes reproductive success.

[Tdieseler]

@Valkyrie1 I am really disgusted at the way SOME women are treated, i believe in equality... matter of fact.. i believe (and don't tell anyone this) women are smarter than men...
the part i don't get is why they strive to be dumber.
You say women are treated as objects... but is this man's fault? women expose skin, wear tight or short clothing... blah blah blah.. i understand men should have control... but what if they don't.
dont dangle yourself as bait... if you don't wanna get ate.
i respect women.. but sometimes...

[Valkyrie1]

If you are treating someone like an object then yes it is your fault. You can't be responible for other people but you are responsible for how you treat other people.

[Tdieseler]

@Valkyrie1 Cause and effect darling. Cause and effect.
If im walking through the hood, and dangling thousands of dollars from my hands and hella jewelry from my body, what the F do i expect is gonna happen to me?
"You don't start nothing, there won't be nothing"...
Women walk around thinking that just because they are women, things will be easier, but like i said, don't dangle yourself as bait.
Plus, women (maybe not you) seem like they WANT to be objectified. be in the center of attention.
You can say others are responsible for how they treat others but that goes back to cause and effect... if im a bad-mannered douche... should i get mad because other people are mad at me and don't want to be around me? NO!! I caused that. I Caused the bad manners... people just responded in kind.
Don't act like an object, and you won't be treated as one.

[Valkyrie1]

If a man has no self-control that is his failing his weakness. You know there is a difference between sexualization and objectification. You can sexualize a person and still respect them as a person by not acting on your own desires and considering the women's feelings. Objectifications means disregarding a persons own desires over your own thus reducing them to that of an object of desire. Most men have this self-control which is why many women feel comfortable wearing whatever they want.

[Tdieseler]

@Valkyrie1 wouldn't say most 😒 but i get your point. I can't vouch for 'control' but I've definitely seen restraint lol. but back to my main topic, all that wouldn't happen, if there wasn't a CAUSE. the cause being women flaunting.

[Valkyrie1]

How does someone act like an object? By sexualizing themselves? A women can be covered from head to toe and still be objectified.

[Valkyrie1]

Rape still happens in places where women are covered from head to toe. Its actually much more common since women have fewer rights in those places.

[Tdieseler]

@Valkyrie1 Yea, but in those places, there are also fewer laws... you'd think it'd happen a lot more often but it doesn't. Get what i mean?
Plus you have to understand human nature... they shit on the things they understand and diss the ones they don't...
say you dressed sexually... you are called a whore.. but you dress appropriately.. a prude. the thing is to pick your side, but know what comes with it.
Point is... stop thinking about what others think... do what makes you comfortable. this happens on both ends... on the male side too... judged by the outside...
just choose the side you are good with

[bekkesmash]

Valkyrie, refer to my intial post, women are biological sex objects, and that's the way you want it.

[Valkyrie1]

You think countries like Suadi Arabia have fewer laws? On the contrary they don't.
Its cultural how women and others are judge based on their appearance. What is or isn't acceptable. There were once cultures where women didn't cover their breasts at all. Your are right in the sense that people are damned if they do and damned if they don't particularly in countries like ours which is a combination of so many different cultures and ideas mesh. I do tend to dress more conservatively because thats what I'm most confortable wearing. I think everyone should be able to wear whatever they feel comfortable wearing without fear.

[Tdieseler]

@bekkesmash they do don't they... they gain that shit Way before we do. dress, prep... lie... just to become that. The thing i don't get is why they think its men's fault for reacting.
We don't try anything... we just cast the hook.
Compare men and women in the "looks" industry... men are more comfortable... women on the other hand... not so much.

[Tdieseler]

@Valkyrie1 Then you are good... YOU are good. But that doesn't stop an entire gender. There will always be spoilers. Thats why i refer to the one true direction. Nature.
When you think that way, a lot of things become very clear.

[Valkyrie1]

@bekkesmash
Women can't be biological sex objects since we are sentient beings. Liking sex, enjoying pleasure, does not make someone less of a person. Also if that was the way I wanted it I wouldn't still be abstintent.

[bekkesmash]

Biology is the reason why women are seen as sex objects. Doesn't make much difference if you are abstinent or not, you would be treated far worse overall without your sexual value.

[Valkyrie1]

No it is not. Did you not read my description of what objectification means? If biology is the reason women are objectified then it is also the reason we aren't since the brain which controls how we treat other people is also a product of biology. Sure you find women attractive but how you treat women is a conscious descision. People are not valued just because you can have sex with them. We value people for a variety of reasons. Lets say you see an old lady and choose to help her cross the street. Its not because you want to bang the old lady. Dumbing it down to sex is rather simplistic and demonstrates a lack of emotional intelligence.

[bekkesmash]

"People are not valued just because you can have sex with them. We value people for a variety of reasons." ahhahaha In most cases for women below 40, they are valued just because you can have sex with them.

[Valkyrie1]

So in other words YOU just value them because you can have sex with them.

[Tdieseler]

Damn @bekkesmash you broke it down to the 9's. and actually brought up another peeve of mine. While guys like me try to look as women more than just being "biological sex objects"... a lot more guys only treat women different just because the want to have sex with them. and as much as women try to complain about this... lets all face the truth... they all like it.
Valky over here can argue as stupidly as she wants to... but what do you think she wants in a man... some that sees her as "fuckable"... right?

I've stopped thinking like that but it seems like for every time I've turned a woman down, she gets mad/offended. @Valkyrie1 you women bring it on yourselves...
face the facts. look at the "rules" of dating... you all know where it leads to... you just pretend.
Dumbing it down to sex... umm... you know where it leads to. lol.

[Tdieseler]

@Valkyrie1 Pretty much, thats it for a lot of men. and like i said... women don't seem to mind much... actually, i believe most of them revel in it.

[Valkyrie1]

Women getting mad after being rejected imagine that! It is almost as if women don't like being rejected kind of like men...
As for wanting a man that finds me "fuckable". Well sure it would hard to be in relationship with someone who didn't find me attractive. I'm sure there are some guys that do but that won't keep me happy in the long run. He also has to like who I am as a person. As for what a dating leads to well I would hope it would lead to a long and satisfying relationship. If a guy is only interested in me for sex the relationship won't last.

[Tdieseler]

@Valkyrie1 You'd be surprised at how many relationships last long just most because of the sex. and how many (you should know this) also break, mostly because of the sex.
I like your first sentence though... women getting mad after being rejected... but that is allowed.. right? but when a man does... its not.
They are just supposed to "man up"... do you know the reason why men don't mind as much when they are rejected? Happens too damn often.
Women get mad because they think because they are women, it should just fall on their lap. Hence the reason i absolutely love rejecting em... the look is priceless. plus i don't give a fuck lol.

[Valkyrie1]

If two people are only together because of the sex then it isn't much of a relationship they are just fuck buddies.
Getting mad after being rejected is understandable because no one likes being rejected. Taking it out on the other person? Unacceptable. Also I don't assume things will fall into my lap because of my gender. Bitter much?

[Tdieseler]

@Valkyrie1 OMG... what the F does that have to do with bitter? you women are the ones acting all entitled... im not bitter... im actually ecstatic. bring up new stupid ass dating rules men should conform to in order to get their "attention"... and the more they come out... the more things i have to burn them with. Because its all fucking stupid.
Im not bitter, trying to open their eyes and bring them to reality is not me being bitter. Bitter is me wishing i was a girl and had those entitlements... and trust me... i'd rather have my eyes plucked out first. That level of stupidity is beyond me. I do stupid in relationships bad enough, but watching women... lol..

[Valkyrie1]

You sound pretty bitter to me.

[Tdieseler]

@Valkyrie1 Guess thats the number one Go-To for women when they find a guy that refuses to float along on their propaganda. Apparently they are bitter, mad, hurt and will be lonely forever. Newsflash, I'd rather be alone than follow some of the stupid doctrine I've seen women come up with.
What was that shit Bill Burr said, "women run around spouting and making up bullshit, and men don't correct them because they wanna fuck em"
So call me bitter as much as you want, its never gonna change the fact that most women are dumb as rocks when it comes to dealing with the opposite sex, thats why they have to make up so many goddamn rules and standards... new one every 10 mins.
When they can just simply just ask the guy.

[Valkyrie1]

What the fuck are you talking about? What propaganda? Ranting on like its some kind of damn conspiracy. Yet you claim not to be bitter. News flash! Everyone has standards and no one knows exactly what they are doing when it comes to relationships. I don't know why other women make up rules or what the fuck those rules even are.

[Tdieseler]

@Valkyrie1 Umm... why would you know (or care) what the rules are when they don't apply to you. You probably think those rules are "standards"... no... them are RULES.
i mean... the number of dates rule, the number of days/month rule, the one with the engagement ring... blah blah blah... how would you know, when its YOUR damn rules.
Till today women still make stupid rules and call them "standards" so as not to come off "cheap", all it is just a waste of time and in many cases, like mine, a deadline... a destination. and when its reached... im out. Now she has wasted 6 months... and gotta start again.
Yup, all that propaganda. And they wonder why most of the time, the guy tends to leave. Well, you did set a destination, who leaves a destination? lol
They just keep on hurting potential relationships and i admit... its Hilarious to watch.

[Anonymous]

maybe if more girls weren't acting like stuck up bitches who won't give most guys the time of day irl, they wouldn't be so thirsty online. Just my opinion. Some of us guys spend a lifetime getting shit on and treated like a second class citizen by girls because we aren't model material or our shy personality makes us awkward. In games, girls seem to be more friendly, because it's a team game and they need us to help keep each other alive. ;) Or maybe it's because online, they don't have to worry about their "friends" judging them and making fun of them for talking/hanging out with a "nerdy" guy.

[Tdieseler]

But i just wrote WHY those girls act like "stuck up bitches"... its irritating to be constantly spammed. so they tend to ignore. plus look at the Buffet concept... its easy to ignore/not want food when its all around you. but if you only had one plate with little food on it, its a lot more important isn't it? The girl knows she can get dick any time... so she knows she can pick. and has the right to be picky.
I've been shitted on too... not many times because im very careful (and tricky), but that doesn't mean they have to hide behind a screen and be thirsty, like i wrote... what will that accomplish? you hear some chick's voice... its gone when you are offline... so what do you gain? Nothing.

[10dsw]

Oh I agree... it's disgusting. And the problem is that in many ways it's ruining women. My ex-girlfriend complained that the dating scene was filled with 90% guys who made it too easy (i. e. boring, no challenge, nothing sexy) and then the 10% that played their cards well... well they received so much female attention that no girl could compete.. lol

[Tdieseler]

Guess im part of that 10%... or at least close to it. You are right that it is ruining not just women, but the dating pool in general. In one of my Because statements, i said that because they are approached by so many, a nice guy approaching will just get immediately categorized... and that is not fair. Women categorize instantly by rejection, end up rejecting a good guy, then turn around and say there Are no good guys...
Guys too with good intentions, get rejected too.. because of the same reason... its a shit show.

[silverqueen]

I actually love this myTake. It emphasizes certain points that are sadly very real. A lot of men seem to not see women as regular people.

When you talk about "women" however, I think you only mean the attractive ones. And this is what I REALLY want guys to understand and I keep repeating it - the average to ugly looking guys expecting to get the hottest girl in the room simply by being a gentleman won't work. I'm sorry guys.

You need to look good, you need to smell good, have good hygiene (clean hair, face, teeth etc.), and you have to give a good, laid-back impression. You don't have to walk on egg-shells around these women - they are normal people just like you!

I want to shout this out to every guy in the world - BE the person you want to be with! Be it a hot person, an intelligent person, a caring person, etc.

Many guys expect to get a girlfriend who is "caring and understanding" and also "hot" but they're ugly stinky and uncaring. Like.. Bitch, please!!

[Tdieseler]

Very good response. Right in the middle and stuck to the point. you know... you have been an evil bitch in my ear for I don't know... a week now? you are strongly opinionated and i want YOU to view the first of the Diesel Rant series... BEFORE i put it out. Your opinion is being asked. You are cold hearted... Love it.
Least i know i won't be lied to... just try not to be biased.

[xmark76]

Yea, i hear ya. women get confused w me because im not like that. maybe its my age, I don't know. i get accused of cheating all the time... even tho im anti social n damn near agoraphobic lol. u also need to add the way they contact them. people get more disconnected and rude the more u get rid of physical contact. in person maybe shy. then gets worse w the phone, then text, then i. m.. i dont chase cuz if u can't see or dont pay enough attention to me to see that im not like 99% of these guys then u dont deserve someone like me. easy tactic, use what they do against them, women filter themselves w their actions.

[OlderAndWiser]

I tell a woman that I'll treat her like a queen but she needs to treat me like a king. You need to recognize that you are a good catch and act like you know it. Most women love a confident man.

[Tdieseler]

be hard to do that when you a "speak to the hand" before you even get to utter a word. I think I've only gotten that once... a long time ago... changed my whole perspective on approaching...
so i pulled, then fucked her best friend :)

[ThouShallNot]

Here are my suggestions to you: Stop judging everyone else. Stop worrying about what other guys are doing. Stop worrying about women who have relationship rules you don't like, women who have dumped you, and those who have outright turned you down. Most of all, stop worrying about people you feel you can't be your true self around.

I don't think any of the things you've mentioned are hurting your chances of finding the right woman for you. Forget all of this bullshit, be yourself, and you'll find the right woman.

[LordIheanacho]

Looks like someone's offended at the article the valiant man wrote.

Sorry mate (not sorry), but you lot ARE partially responsible for why I've yet to find Mrs! Right let alone could even initiate a relationship without some broad giving me a boyfriend excuse or trying to manipulate me! I don't even like sex (I'm ace), matter of fact, I hate it!

I just want a girlfriend of whom I can share my passion with the gaming industry business with. I wanted my company to be a couple-powered empire - and Lord AND Lady.

Apparently, that's not possible AT ALL! Partially thanks to you boys! So I have to go the ordinary route and build my empire alone. Honestly if I have to find a woman AFTER achieving my success, I'd rather just live and die alone than risk attracting gold-diggers, power leeches, and legal alligators. Besides, even men are becoming desperate for wealthy women. Poverty is still rising.

#MGTOW

[lord_chilled]

Completely get this. I realized this a while back when talking to a friend over a beer.
Sadly, not many guys get it and still put women on pedestals.

Its because of guys like that that women think they are the shit. However that mentality only holds true as long as those guys exist.

I tried to tell guys about this, and while those intelligent enough listened, most were just got upset and called me bitter/angry and a misogynist.

Now i say fuck em, and use them as my advantage. Since they all pit themselves down already, i can make myself look much better.

When i was younger i was myself part of this a little bit, and i check myself that i dont do it at all now

[jennyPuss]

about time someone said it. damn i can't stand all these manginas.

[bekkesmash]

If women were really sexually attracted to the male body in and of itself, instead of being more sexually excited by themselves, they would accept banging like 55% of those manginas

[Tdieseler]

@bekkesmash who said they aren't attracted to the male body? you need to walk in on some girl talk one day... and i thought guy talk was explicit. The only difference is that guys more often than not, chase after those thoughts... women? not so much. and I know why.

@jennyPuss yea, little cry babies. I would have gone harder on them, but i used to be sorta like em... well, the ones that cried that no girl will date them. but this was like over a decade ago... like 15 16 years. made a lotta changes since, the latest one being the Most successful. Now i gotta swat em.

[10dsw]

Amen!

[WesleyPullen]

@bekkesmash Don't you love being told be a cuckold, that you need to "walk in on" girl talk.

[LordIheanacho]

You and I both.

[John_Doesnt]

What are you talking about "ruining it for the rest of us"? It makes all of us look better by comparison and it makes the competition much easier. Let the losers be losers, it makes finding a girlfriend much easier.

[Tdieseler]

I guess you can look at it that way.. maybe i shouldn't have said "Ruining", should have said, "making it a lot more difficult". I don't have problems pulling in girls... especially when im not serious about it. But sometimes, (you are a guy, you know this), sometimes you ARE serious, just to get shot down, because she's probably ran through a slew of the guys im talking about.

[PunkinPie]

TLDR... I skimmed it. But I do think a lot of this has to do with social awkwardness. A guy likes a girl, he's told over and over to be a man and ask her out. He says something stupid because he's nervous and gets rejected. Then all the other guys come down on him for every possible aspect of his failure.

Guys are SO HARD on each other. I'm just glad I'm a female.

[FreedomByChoice]

''Guys are SO HARD on each other. I'm just glad I'm a female. ''

thats very ironic.

[Margillard]

Most guys are kinda going MGTOW dude, not weeping and knashing for a relationship.

www.foxnews.com/.../why-men-wont-marry.html

[Browneye57]

Geez, what a loser mentality. You really need to up your game. Whatever your problem is with the ladies is not the fault of some other loser guy. pfft.

[Tdieseler]

You need to put on your glasses sire and see that i barely referred to myself in that article. "Guys like me..." isn't the same as "me".
Up my game... pfft... you have no frickin idea.
I already shot through the roof... can't go any higher. so I've quit the stupid "game" and gone off on a tangent.

[lord_chilled]

You didn't get the point of the article

[Tdieseler]

@lord_chilled i appreciate you gimmick but i can handle this.. this guy is a cuckold apparently.. he doesn't get it.
but thanks for being understanding mate.

[lord_chilled]

Np man

[bcapps]

holy shit !! this!!! great post, man the eff up, get some inner game, and stop making yourself worthless!! I was a little put off by women's behavior, but I know now that men are perpetrating this on themselves ( as a whole)

[WesleyPullen]

This is the result of successfully applied guilt.

[Tdieseler]

I've been allowed into quite a number of girl talks and I've heard things that even i went "whoa". the women only react that way because of these guys im talking about. Vagina now has higher case value than dick because too many fucking buyers.
If these guys were to shut the hell up and leave these women alone, THEY will come asking for it, because dick will be in short supply, hereby making it of higher case value. but do these moronic guys know this? nope.

[WesleyPullen]

We don't care, because if someone let's herself degenerate into a fuck pig, it's better to let them go. Make the attempt to stay with them or stop them from ruining their life all because of "dick".

If a woman can't think past dick then we don't really see a need to keep stupid people around...

do you get what i'm saying?

[bcapps]

@WesleyPullen its a market, like any other, men have lowered their value to almost zero. if men would simply stop giving loads of free validation, the market would turn overnight. no complimenting, no groveling, none of that. both parties should get what they want out of a relationship.. show interest to a girl and she doesn't reciprocate? next her and move on ASAP. your have a finite amount of time in your life, men should use it more wisely.

[Tdieseler]

@WesleyPullen
I like this guy @bcapps He has my same mentality... i also love how he said "almost zero"... ALMOST. which means its heading there and heading there quick.
Need to bounce some ideas off of this guy. and Wesley, you might think that guys that think like him don't get "any"... wrong... he probably does.
Think closer to nature Wesley... there's a reason why Man was appointed head of the household... im not saying women are useless... hence the saying "behind every strong man..."
im just saying, know when to bow to their superiority, and know when not to.

[FatherJack]

I am the polar opposite of these desperado simps !! I'm coldly indifferent to women now , but my demanding situation as a FT working single dad = stress & also I'm much less hormonally charged than in my teens / 20's , so thankfully I'm not bothered about even meeting women. Also I am well aware my " market value " is F-all.. too much baggage

[bcapps]

this sums me up 100%

[Anonymous]

I've reached the age now where I don't give a fuck about impressing women. If they don't like me, fine... keep walking.

[Tdieseler]

We might as well be twins... and im not at your age yet.
you know whats funny about that mentality, when you have it, you get more women. funny how that works right?

[WesleyPullen]

Anon, be careful Dieseler's trynig to get into them breifs.

[Opinion Owner]

Yup!

[Tdieseler]

@WesleyPullen dont hate because someone agrees with me. seems like you don't know women like he does. they are what i call a "necessary evil"... and you can see my post now.. but ask the poster... if he agrees.. he will tell you "yes"
you sound like you Aspire to be with women... me? im trying to get away.