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Oh I ball my eyes out at all kinds of movies... and the odd commercial. I’m definitely a sappy fucker if you dig even a little bit :p
And I am proud of you for opening up and saying it, stay true to yourself and never change yourself, I like people who are like that, I find it sweet :)
I’m a pretty open book and wear my heart on my sleeve generally. I don’t really have much I feel I need to prove these days so don’t mind. It is a bit embarrassing to cry/feel vulnerable in public though.
I love that quote, "I wear my heart on my sleeve" I have heard it before and it just sounds both respectful, loving, kind and just overall honest <3
I never or very rarely feel like I have to prove things to people and I can understand why it may be embarrassing to cry in public considering how many people seem to look at you when you cry, having that many eyes would cause a bit of discomfort ^_^
I was bullied as a kid too so being the centre of attention isn’t my favourite at the best of times :p
It's all cool mate, I was bullied as well, bullying appears to be societies way of increasing ones own self confidence, by looking at someone else, finding one flaw in them, emphasising it and pointing it out so that you forget your own flaws, doing that makes you feel better about yourself but it is a total snowball effect, making each effected person do the same thing.
You get some who make fun of themselves, which are people like comedians and it makes people both feel good about themselves but also respect the person who is doing it.
I can agree that I am not fond of being the centre of attention, I typically like to be the bystander, just there and have people ask my opinions from time to time and get along with them but never be the main topic :)
Don't agree about hitting back unless if she has a weapon or you're disabled. Why do you think so many men get arrested in such cases? The man is likely stronger than the woman so unless if his life is threatened or he is at a severe disadvantage, then there isn't a reason.
So if you get arrested for doing it, then I would think the law is justified.
There isn't reason? How about she just assaulted him? Point why they get charged is when they do much more damage than she did to him, as a fact judges tend to believe woman more than man.
Point is dont want to get fist flying in your face, dont assault other people.
That’s not a reason when he would be able to defend himself. That’s why they get arrested. It’s asinine otherwise.
So being assaulted in not reason to hit someone in deffence? What are you smoking? Those who got arrested probably beated assaultee to much thus becoming assaultee them selves. One hit medium hit should be enaught for self defence against a lot weaker human.
Depending on situation from you can trow around two to five punches/kicks before fist will fly in your face.
There's a difference between retaliation and defense. You're simply wanting to retaliate like a child. And if the human is "weaker", you'd be able to stop the "assault" by restraining, calling the police, walking away etc. You don't need to hit.
Your reasons are infantile. It's like a kid on the playground saying "She hit me first so I hit her back". On top of that, a medium punch can "damage" her worse than what she's doing to you. You just want justification to hit her back. Move along, because you're not getting it.
well defense is using appropiate amount of force and attack to defend oneself, retaliation is when you overstep that line.
Well i dont give a shit if medium punch will damage you more than a man, if you want to assault me like a man be ready to be treated as such. I will do what i need to do to keep myself, my friends and family safe. If you are assaulting people who are close to me, no amount of im girl you can't hit me will save you.
Listen i have enough brains to not start fight (suck it up if needed), but i will be deamed if i won't finish it, can say so much about you, if you think its acceptable to assault a man and expect to be treated as lady, you are sick.
@Janncis Damn boi...
Respects to you, I really love your justifications and that really spoke to me, you are 100% right.
Remember though, as you did state you have brains not to start fights which is awesome ;)
You utterly decimated this dispute! :D
So you're saying that if a woman punches a man he should just sit there and let himself get his ass beat? Do you realize how brain dead you sound?
It isn't, and it never will be. Deal with it. Only women are humanized; men are dehumanized from birth, and increasingly so the older they become, to the extent where any and every female will mourn a dead rat in the gutter more than they will a dead man who sacrificed his life to save theirs. That's just how it is.
It's not okay. Don't be fooled into thinking it is. She will tell you it is, but she doesn't mean it. She is just testing you to see if you are a wimp. As soon as you cry she will dump you like an old pair of socks.
Men don't cry (unless maybe they are homosexuals).
Correct, that needs to be spread for everyone to understand.
I disagree. It does make you appear weak. Never seen my father show any emotion, if i saw a guy act any different im disgusted and they will never get a next date
Depends on what they cry about. You can't simply judge an emotional man like that.
Wow your dad didn’t cry. Because he was a weak man. A real man can cry in front of people. It takes real strength to be vulnerable with other people. Only weak men hide their emotions. Your perspective and your vagina are lying to you to your own detriment.
But many women feel the same. Because culture has conditioned a belief system that crying is feminine and feminine is weakness. Our sexual drive operates off of our beliefs and cultural training.
This is why people aim to change that belief system and perspective. It’s a conservative perspective that is damaging and creates mental illness.
I can't cry if I wanted to. It's not part of me or how I deal with depression. I couldn't say the last time I cried. I lost my best friend to an overdose and I couldn't cry. I was numb for years. His death fundementally changed me as a person. I no longer lie steal cheat in anyway and have passed 8 years of drug tests. I probably wouldn't be alive if he didn't die. It was inevitable one of us was going to.
@Kaazsz yepp he's so weak, thats why he runs a multi billion dollar company. Because he's weak😂
This was MY opinion, i dont give a shit about your overly emotional, pussy ass self. Go cry about it. Everyone will admire you for it😄✌️ not. Your opinion shows how weak of a man you are, if thats what people would even consider you to be✌️
Lmao
A man is a leader. He looks forward and carries the weight of those who follow him. He acts with reason, and gives those around him something to look up to. What makes a man strong, is his ability to show others the way through his own actions. He is virtuous and principled.
What makes a man weak, is not having these qualities. The degree to which a man is not rational, not virtuous, not principled, is the degree to which a man becomes weak. For without virtue, without reason, without principle, he is unable to shoulder the burden of leadership and guidance to those around him.
A man is built, not born.
None of this indicates that a man cannot cry. The idea that a man cannot cry or else he is weak, is a non rational concept formed by weak men.
Glad you think that way, good luck ever having sex with a woman again. Now have a good day✌️
If a man is unable to cry, is unable to show to those which follow him that he is also human. That he also experiences emotion. That he understands those that follow him. As such, this gives him greater strength and greater ability to guide those who need his guidance. They see that he understands them, and through his emotion, he can display that his reason, virtue, and principle remains in tact. That despite times of turmoil where he shows his comraderie and empathy for others, he is able to remain a leader. And he is able to remain a leader regardless of emotional situations, because his strength is rooted in those concepts I’ve already described.
Emotion is part of what makes humans human. To pretend as if emotion does not exist, to pretend that emotions must be suppressed is illogical, irrational, lacking of virtue and principle. There is no virtue of “I don’t cry.” That is not a virtue. What makes a man virtuous is his steadfast adherence to his principles and rationality. He navigates adversity and guides his followers. Emotion is part of man, and as such emotion allows man to remain human. To deny emotion is to deny humanity. To deny emotion is weakness.
@Kaazsz You can make the argument that a man crying doesn't show weakness but don't say something so stupid that not crying shows weakness or that crying shows strength. That's what weak people say to defend their weakness.
I don't lack emotions or empathy whatsoever. I'm physically unable to cry. My best friend overdosed I just sat rocking in my chair and eventually ran 5 miles. Crying would be an easier release. I'm not saying there is any problem with a man showing emotion. I'm unable to cry even if I'm devastated. I tend to get angry incredibly angry not sad.
“That’s what weak people say.” That’s not an argument. There’s no logic to that statement.
Hiding your emotions is weakness. Hiding your emotions is fear of repercussion for not acting according to society’s demands. If a woman demands that you don’t cry or else she leaves you, she has power over you. When you submit to her demands, she is the leader and you are the follower.
When you fear expressing your emotion, you create within yourself mental illness. Society teaches men to hide their emotions, thus breeding mental illness.
A man who does not fear to show his emotions is a strong man, able to withstand the disdain from the ignorant who still believe emotional display is a value judgement of strength or weakness. Strength as I said above is adherence to your values, your principles, your rationality, these are virtues. It is virtuous to display your emotion without fear of repercussion from those who wish to cast judgement on you. You know within yourself your values and principles and as such you should have the strength to display your emotion, own it, and wear it proudly.
Hiding your emotion out of fear is nothing but negative. Hiding your emotion makes you weak. Mental illness makes you weak. Hiding your emotion is not rational or logical. You are a human being and you feel emotions. If other people wish to judge you, who cares? You are a quality man who Has values and principles.
Okay, you're getting removed now because im tired of your overly emotional ass, comment elsewhere as i said before. You make no logical point and i dont see why you continue to argue alone, its just as pathetic as you calling yourself a man. Maybe your more of the bruce jenner/ caitlyn jenner sort as a clear picture im getting. Maybe get your estrogen levels checked, because there's no testosterone visible. Now goodbye PUSSY.✌️
Lol hiding emotion is not weak it’s strong you brain dead mole. If I punch you and you cry but you punch me and I don’t who is stronger then? LOL
@elite665 yeah you're right. Control over your emotions is a strength.
@elite665 its because that commentor isn't even close to being a man, so he wouldn't understand that concept.
Yeah he was being a bitch kind of.
Even as a woman im nowhere near emotional, not gonna deal with some pussy of a man.
Telling me I have a mental disorder because I can control myself.
Yeah that sounds like a real issue🤦♀️😄 thats why people who go to jail and phsych wards are there, because they handled their emotions😂🤦♀️
Hahaha yeah right. Good point. Who the fuck did that bitch think he was?
You are so honest 👌
Sounds like an extreme take lol. All humans are emotional beings but the writer does sound like a pussy
@tonybologna25 right😂
@dbr1987 i mean🤷♀️
Everyone who attacks her is attacking the harsh reality. This is how the female brain is programmed. At least i give her credit for being honest. And for all the bluepilled guys...96%of female brains operate like this..
@dbr1987 Not really lol. All of my ex’s told me I was distant and didn’t show enough. There needs to be a middle ground. Showing no emotion is a good attracting point in lust, but relationships require at least some surface level emotion depth. Being emotionally weak is entirely different. The writer is an extreme forsure
@tonyBologna25yes you are right for sure about that but she writes about how weak men are disgusted by Them. She mension s crying men.
I'm not defending her as a person, only comment
@dbr1987 I got drunk, punched the fuck out of my wall, and cried my fucking eyes out when I found out my best friend was killed in combat when I was in the Marine Corps. I’d have to be a sociopath to not show any emotion towards that. Had a lot of survivors guilt and kept it to myself. If i’m weak for shit like that then, so be it. There’s a time and place and overtly emotional pussies can get with other pussies and have a cry fest for all I care. But to suggest that men are supposed to be entirely absent of all emotion is kind of ridiculous. Moderation just like everything in life
@Kaazsz Crying is weak behavior and doesn’t signify strength you dumbass lol. We all have moments of weakness but don’t tell me a man is stronger if he cries lol
@tonybologna that is not weak behaviour, the same as with funerals. Crying @ some events you have no control over is normal. Just never let the soy take over 🤛
I love making sluts cry when I call them sluts
@tonybologna it's appropriate to cry and have emotions when you're devrestated. I physically
Can not cry even if I want to alone. I have once seen my father in tears. I don't know if it's been programmed into me but it's just not how I handle devestation. I'm in no way calling myself more of a man because of it. As far as positive emotions go im guarded against falling in love but treat every women so good a lot of them can't match me with someone else. The only women we have been been entirely crazy in love with I now realize is insane a can turn empathy on and off like a switch. With the amount of sexual questions her boyfriends have asked me and to prove it was her put her on the phone to prove it and after 14 years trust me I know her voice. I was able to give her something no one else could. I have a legitimate reason to suspect borderline personality disorder because the entire time it is either unconditional love or the nastiest below the belt comments humanly possible. I turned into a junkie when she left me and as a recovered successful person now instead I think she is having second thoughts years later after I have long moved on and am seeing someone else.
When she with a boyfriend asked me if we would eventually have kids I said no I want them to have empathy and true love something I'm not sure you could raise them with. I have been getting harrased basically since until I changed every method of contact she had for me. I cared about that women so much up until a month ago I would send give cards for food. Someone I love as much as her I won't let starve. This ended in basically a restraining order even though I'm 600 miles away based on nothing I truly said. My parents are attorneys I had it dismissed for lack of grounds for even serving. It now expires Nov 1st officially if the court system. Thank God I won't need to deal with it foreever. She tried as hard as she could to force me to break the order but I would not respond. If someone even talks to her about me even if I'm unaware it's considered third party contact and I can go to jail for 7 years! At one point we were like magnets inseparable for 5 years I absolutely loved her with every fiber of my being and would have followed her if that was what she truly wanted. She wanted to start a new life and of course has said on 15 occasions why did you come after me maybe because you told me over 10 times not to. I can read your mind and made it clear I wanted to be with her if it meant moving across the state.
Sometimes i need to be not okay. I trynot to make a spectical but i won't put up a front either. Thank you for this post. I hope it makes more people aware that us guys feel things too, and that out doesn't make us any less or weaker.
Respect to you man and I am thankful that you liked this post. Continue staying honest with emotions and I too hope people become more aware :)
You're right about what you said. It's a confusing thing for me to understand equality when women can emotionally and physically abuse men, but not vice versa. So all that shit about equality is just for the asshole women's advantage.
Ooof! That was some deep words mate! :)
Hahaha... Gotta say it raw 😂
That you did mate, that you did! :D ^_^
So much pain inside... it only leaks out during movies and sappy comericals.
I'm not crying You're crying!!!
It's okay man, you want to cry, cry because I respect men who are willing to cry, it is becoming a difficult thing to do in public but it shouldn't be.
In public? Never. I work in construction. Lol.
Well, if you ever hurt yourself during construction, like dropping a tool on your foot or accidentally getting a cut on your body, there's no need to hold back those tears.
But I hope you stay safe and continue to have good days :)
Lol. Yes I'm definitely a seize the moment guy.
LMAO picturing the scenario
Well i tried to show emotions... ended up losing everything I ever had...
I'm so sorry :'(
But please, don't let those experiences seize your emotions, it is only human to be emotional, you shouldn't hide those emotions for someone who refuses to stay by you because of your emotions.
If you lost actual items because of your emotions, don't hide them, keep them open but learn from your experiences and protect the things you want, but don't shut off your emotions as a defence.
As someone who has opened up to people, you must be wary of the response. People aren't just going to validate you and then shut up, if you're acting like a dick head people WILL tell you. Always be respectful of what people are trying to say to you even if you don't agree.
It's not that crying makes you weak, but being unable to control your emotions and allowing them to affect your ability to perform IS weak.
Your argument is understandable, but if that is the case, wouldn't people say girls are weak as well when they cry instead of being supportive and comforting them?
I see where you are coming from, you mean in that when you have emotions that you are incapable or not in full control of, they can lead to you not being able to do things in a efficient way.
That could be said for any emotion though, people don't call it weak when someone is too angry and loses their composure, people say the person has anger issues, but no-one calls them weak.
It only seems to be considered weak when it is an emotion that leads the person into being vulnerable, therefore being overly angry which is another unstable emotion, it is making you vulnerable but not as much as if you were sad, or confused or riddled with anxiety etc.
Crying openly shows vulnerability which is why many consider it weak for a man to cry. I stand by my original assertion that the inability to control your emotions, ANY emotion, to the point that your performance is degraded is weak.
Yea I sometimes cry thinking about someone passes away, when they are not😒😒. You can call me crazy if you want, but sometimes i thought of it when trying to sleep.
That isn't crazy, that is typically linked with insecurities, that isn't a crazy thing it just means you are worried about those people, even if you may not know exactly how much you care <3
I agree with you, live would be easier for all of us, if guys would be urged to asc as the tough guy.
* would NOT be urged
Well you can be who you are but women will leave you if you show too much weakness.
If they leave you for crying, they weren't the one, because if they can't stay and support you when you are emotional, how are they your true partner?
well thats true i guess but they are all the same it seems.
I feel you will find a partner who supports you in both emotional states and non emotional, it's just a matter of searching :)
We can cry and have feelings
I cry much more than my fiancée does
And there is nothing wrong with that, it is just another emotion that everyone has and one that people should respect instead of linking it with weakness.
I dont agree. You come off as weak and wimpy, unstable at best. And few gals like that, even fewer for long term. And its especially noticeable if its in feont of someone that doesn't know you that well. A few years into a relationship, friendly or romantic, and it doesn't have that effect of coming off as being weak.
I dont feel comfortable showing happiness, or telling what i feel, i hate criying , i feel like a looser , i haven't cried like in 14 years. When someone is criying near me i can't stand it i leave asp
I'm the same and I'm a girl
@Sonjita cool i feel dumb to be honest showing feelings
Of course it is okay. Emotions are for males and females, not just females.
Exactly! :)
Never let anyone see you cry. That is the path to glory and strength.
I disagree but I will respect your choice of belief :)