"I'm very in tune with my own feelings and beliefs."
Well from this guy's point of view that statement is at the heart of a lot of problems between guys and girls. Girls expect guys to think like that and for the most part they don't.
To make it clear that kind of thing drives a lot of men totally nuts. Women get so emotional about what we consider completely trivial nonsense. Women get all emotional and freaked out and guys are like "what? huh? what's the big deal?". I mean seriously we totally don't get it. It's just something that we have to accept if we are going to deal with women.
I don't consider what you are talking about as deep thinking. Emotions are never about thinking, they are the opposite of thinking. Emotions are reactions without thought. That's not saying emotions are wrong, just that they are without thought. Emotions get in the way of rational thought, and if they are strong enough make rational thought almost impossible.
"And to the ones who see themselves this way: do you find this skill set to be more of a blessing or a curse?"
I would consider it a curse. Nothing wrong with emotions, but it's a matter of degree. I personally hate it when emotions pick me up and throw me around.30 Reply
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+1 yGenerally speaking, women think on a more emotional level than men, and men think more logically than women. We all have shallow and deep thought processes. Some of us are deeper thinkers than others. Gender doesn't play a factor in whether or not you're a "deep thinker". If men weren't capable of such, we'd never have recovered from the dark ages.
Personally, I can't imagine what it'd be like to have my emotions play such a large role in my thought process. It sounds horribly inconvenient.53 Reply- +1 y
Oh it is. But quite the opposite at times.
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I still think that the "emotional vs logical" debate is more the egg than the chicken, aka a byproduct of social programming and peer pressure rather than something inherently sex-specific. By the way, I often make decisions based on what feels right, so I wouldn't say I am a typically "logical" thinker. I used to do that - it usually resulted in nonsense rather than anything valid. Things tend to work out my way for me more than before.
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I definitely agree. I alo think that to be successful in any relationship it requires a combination of the two.
I'm like what you described as well.. I agree that men don't often think into things much. An example is my bf. He just doesn't care about much lol. He is super smart and motivated but just doesn't care about reasoning for things
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yYes, men are deep thinkers as well. They just generally base their decision on logic, not emotion, so you don't get to 'see' that side of them as often as you do with women.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yWell... generally yes that's true. But there are guys out there are very in touch with their emotions
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+1 yWhat you are talking about is more rather a definition of empathy than deep thinking. You are basically asking about emotional attunement. The obvious answer is, pretty much anyone capable of feeling emotions themselves are capable of assessing the situation of others and predict their emotional state or response in the given scenario.
Now, you will hear a bunch of people claim that females are naturally better at this. I would say that this is a skill that can be learned - I sure know, I relearned it too - and the reason why males tend to be worse at it is because they are encouraged to suppress their emotional responses. Have you ever heard the term, "stop crying, man up and grow some balls"? That is the reason why males are so bad at empathetical situation analysis.02 Reply- +1 y
There's good evidence that even by age 3 boys are learning to hide emotions far more then girls.
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Well of course they do. That's what they see: males don't display emotions.
+1 yYou can say that men and women both think at different emotional levels, but the reality is that the brains, outside of mass differences, actually have very little sexual dimorphism. A female brain is slightly smaller, in accordance with her body, by about 100 grams give or take.
Both men and women think about the world around them, but the depth that they think of it is mostly due to intelligence, and since women and men can both be intelligent, they can both think deeply.
When people say men think with less emotion they are referring to cultural implants, that impede your ability to express emotion, but not experience it. It's not like men feel nothing. We just are raised to not express it.
There is really very little difference, but women do have smaller spatial regions which correlates with a slightly lower score than men on spatial reasoning tests. These are averages, of course there are women with wildly better spatial reasoning than men.
But the areas that deal with deep thought are largely identical.10 Reply"emotionally intellectual person"? WTF does that even mean? When men think deep thoughts, we end up writing books like the Odyssey, Plato's Republic, the Prince, like that.
Women are more attuned to subtle emotional cues because that's how women communicate. Remember mean girls? "If we were in the wild, I knew how this would be settled... but here in girl world, things have to be sneaky." Girls don't openly do things as much, they do sneaky little attacks and such. Heck, that's why the neg is such an effective tool. Because that's what girls dish out, so they're naturally attuned to pick it up when they're getting it.01 Reply- +1 y
It means I. Very smart when it comes to my emotions. Just because you have obviously had some bad experiences with those types of women does not mean that I'm that way. There's not much I do that's underhanded. I say what I mean and mean what I say. I don't play games either. And if you see negitivity as a tool then at some point in your life you will find you wasted a great amount of time using negativity to put others at a disadvantage.
+1 yI have plenty of deep thoughts and can communicate quite fluently and openly. I don't sit around and analyze everything to death, particularly when it comes to women. I take things as they are. I don't go for the game of guess why I am mad at you or you should know why I am mad at you. If something is wrong, say it. Can't fix what I don't know about. I don't read minds. Being aware of others is good. Stressing about subtle things is just going to drive you crazy. Men and women are very different when it comes to communicating. If I feel something is wrong, I will ask and listen. If I get a response of nothing is wrong, I move on. Persistent anger given off towards me without verbalizing only pushes me away and I don't tolerate it. I have had too many head games played with me to put up with it.
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Well of course it does! The only way being an emotionally in touch person is worth it is if it's coupled with logic and communication skills.
Honeslty, if you believe that even for a second as a whole truth and not just a simple statement to label a group of people. Then you can't be that emotionally intelligent. Understanding every possible truth to human behavior is the key to understanding the "self". You wouldn't limit yourself? So why limit others? Men and Women will be interested what they find familiar. Therefore sometimes you have people that would enjoy not asking the difficult questions of the universe. But! There are those who do... find them.:-)
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Never said I believed that! That's why I asked. I was just testing the waters. I wanted to get the male point on view on this common stereotype.
No we are extremely deep thinkers. I've given much thought as to whether the PER rating for NBA players is an appropriate measure to use to value talent or if there are other intangibles that might not be taken into account.
I've thought long and hard about soccer rules and how several rule changes could be put into place to make the game more competitive and better to enjoy.
I also think in football they should have error stats like baseball where people run the wrong assignment or miss a block that costs the offense just like a dropped ball in baseball.
Do I spend hours obsessing over my relationships and whether some girl looked at me in a weird way at Starbucks? Not so much...01 Reply- +1 y
Lol yep you answered my question. You fit perfectly into the male stereotype
It varies from person to person. I'm deep minded kind of a guy. I'm really connected with my feelings, and I'm quite emotional and sensitive, even though my appearance is cold, rough and unfriendly. When I'm alone with my thoughts I think of it as a blessing, but sometimes could be a curse if people use your sensitive side to make fun of you.
10 Replyholy smokes who told you men aren’t deep thinkers? if it weren’t for deep thinking men, our society wouldn’t even be the way it is now. I deep think all the time and often get lost in my own thoughts. I actually consider it a weakness because i focus so much in what is going on in my head that i disregard what’s currently happening around me.
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Of course I know deep thinking men exist. But I wanted to know more about the average man
+1 yThe difference between a lot of men and women is that men lead their lives by a set of self made principles and morals, of which they will overturn most emotional responses, women however tend to act on emotional impulses and intuition.
As a species we are all deep thinkers; there is simply a different guidance system in place for the two sexes.
p. s. I found your question header rather insensitive for someone so in-tune to social ques.11 Reply- +1 y
I'm not one that will censor myself to make other people more comfortable. That does not mean that I don't recognize it.
+1 yA lot of men are 'deep thinkers', but relatively few men are deeply sensitive to their emotions.
Men are trained from the time they are small boys to discount and ignore -their own feelings- as well as those of others.
It's not helpful, they still have feelings, but can hardly identify them beyond simple 'angry, happy, sad'
For the most part they try to ignore them.15 Reply- +1 y
I believe that is one of the biggest mistakes parents make these days. Do you think it's reversible?
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Partly, though it's a massive undertaking... and it needs to be done quite carefully, or perhaps i should say offset with certain other factors., or the boy ends up being rejected by women and society. Society really does NOT welcome men who are very controlled by their emotions.
I think I grew up in the sort of first wave of 'lets teach boys to be more emotional'. And because of what else was going on, we were still emotionally repressed compared to most girls, but actually my life got a lot better when - really as an adult - i got a lot harder and tougher, emotionally.
If we can teach boys to be aware of but not controlled by feelings, it would be a plus, but that's beyond what most parents are able to do themselves. - +1 y
You're right about that. But I also think that being in touch with your emotions is different than being controlled by them. See I am in touch. I know what I feel and usually why I feel that way. I typically react logically in most situations. Yes I do hurt more than most.. but I also believe that I feel love a lot stronger also.
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I absolutely agree that's a good target for men and for women. But society tends to judge women who seem unemotional and judge men who seem emotional. Female-female relationships are often based on sharing emotions. Male-male friendships tend to be based on common interests and mutually ignoring feelings. While its useful for men to be in touch with their feelings, there are only specific times when people like -hearing- about it.
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Oh of course. Nobody likes a negative Nancy. In my relationship I find that my husband has become a more open person since we've been together.
632 opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. I must admit I'm not always a deep thinker. However, some questions here on GAG trigger me to think deeply!
But 50% of the time I'm a bit absent minded.
May I be curious about your user name? Do you feel like a loser?
Hope you feel okay on GAG and we can help you a bit to start feeling like a winner haha :-)02 Reply- +1 y
I don't think being a loser is a bad thing. I like it lol
834 opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. On an emotional level I feel like I'm pretty open to whatever emotion comes. I really resist being a rock emotionally like kheserthorpe said. I'm fairly unique though tbh. I'm not saying that's good. It's just different. I don't by into much macho stuff. I actually pity guys that do it.
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Good to know men like that still exist in today's world.
+1 yI'm sensitive type guy , deep in thinking lot, certain songs make me cry, certain movies make me cry
not afraid to cry in front anyone. I used to let others make me upset or mad but no more i don't what
people say or do being a victim of bully's i harden up. I can help other people with their problems but
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Thank you sir for sharing with me
i know i wish i knew why all my life
music as made me feel sad - +1 y
That's the beautiful thing about music. It can make you feel without words.
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Since i was a small child in second grade we sing
God Bless America or some song i would start crying - +1 y
It's not true there is lot men whose deep thinkers i've always been that way
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+1 yTake one trip inside my head, and you would go INSANE.
In fact. I'll tell you what girl. Read this question, then tell me what you think about male capacity for philosophical thought.
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q1025039-does-anyone-else-suffer-from-this-mental-compulsion-could-this-even00 Reply I consider myself to be a deep thinker. I think of all the outcomes of almost every situation that which can also be a bad thing because it make me worry a lot. I always catch myself thinking about what other people think of me even if they're strangers.
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So would you say it works against you in most cases? Would you change it if you could?
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Thank you!
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yMen are deep thinkers in their own way. It's just we don't have deep thoughts about emotions, feelings and so forth. Our emotional spectrum is as limited as our visual one. We have like 9 feelings. And we can't tell you what colours mauve, taupe and heliotrope are. Know what I mean?
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I do! Some have to exist somewhere out there though right?
Opinion Owner+1 yI dunno. Ask in the gay community maybe?
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Hahaha, I'll try that
Was going to answer your question so I began to ponder, then I saw a squirrel and now I've forgotten the question so I'll say...
purple, my favorite smell, is purple.31 Reply- +1 y
:) nice one
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+1 yif you were right, why is it, that there are no world famous female philosophers?
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None? Wow.
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well at least i don´t know any... of course this has to do with the patriarchy of the past but i think it shows that at least a few of us stupid males are capable of deep thinking ;)
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yAre not most of the worlds greatest philosophers men? Yes generally speaking women are more emotional but that is not to say that men are not "in tune" with their psyches.
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I agree with your overall point but I just want to point out there may be other reasons for the lack of female philosophers. Lol
Opinion Owner+1 yBecause they are all "innies"?
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yHave you ever heard of Ken Levine? What about Albert Einstein? How about Galleo? Homer? The list is endless.
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Well I was talking more emotionally. Of course there are deep thinking men. But I was wondering about the majority? I find it to be very common.
Opinion Owner+1 yIn terms of romance? You are probably right. I am not a deep thinker in terms of love and romance, I don't know about other men though.
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Do you think that it's something that comes along with love in a long term relationship?
Opinion Owner+1 yI think so, I am very inexperienced so maybe this lack of experience has something to do with me being the way I am.
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yWe dont let emotions guide our choices. We use logic and like getting to the point that doesn't mean we're not deep thinkers
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Opinion Owner+1 yAnd I think you're mistaking deep thinking for empathy
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Empathy is definitely a form of deep thinking. But sometimes the "point" is not the issues as much as getting there is.
Yea, women always have to suffer , mentaly and emotionaly , men can just sit and watch
00 ReplyNot true- some men feel just as acutely as we do.
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+1 yI can. But I prefer not to. Too exhausting.
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That it is
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yHAHAHAHAHAHA!
not true02 Reply- +1 y
Hm insightful.
Opinion Owner+1 yI'm hungry. Not fair.
+1 yWe can but we choose not to
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+1 yThat's ridiculous
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