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No... it's usually not meant to refer to men being shallow. It's LITERALLY that men seem to be more 'visual'... specifically when it comes to sex and being turned on. It may apply in other situations... but, as far as I know it's nearly always in reference to differences in sexual arousal between the genders.
The sorta 'classic' example is that men masturbate to porn (visual) whereas women masturbate to fantasies after reading trashy romance novels.
Now, keep in mind that the internet has completely shattered any Victorian ideas that women (as a whole) aren't every bit as dirty, raunchy, depraved and whatnot as men when it comes to porn.
Nevertheless, I think that there's still at least SOME truth in the general observation. For guys the want to SEE the sexiness. For women... it's... a little more 'mental' or fantasy based.
This definitely holds true when I think about myself, as well as anyone else I have been close enough with to discuss our sex habits.
So, I suppose you COULD look at this as reflecting 'shallowness' on the part of men... but I think that really misses the point. It's more like... I prefer the lights on in the bedroom so I can see all hotness. I don't want to HEAR about the sexy outfit you've got on... I want a picture of you wearing it. It's... that type of thing.
So... maybe men in this regard are "simpler" as in "not as complex"... but I definitely wouldn't say "shallow" (It may or may not be shallow... it's just the wrong frame to look at it)
Most men I have known in real life are pretty respectful even if they dislike your outfit. It's the society that is mind numbing.
- wear something else, sara! young boys in your school are horny and impulsive yk
- she's trying to steal my boyfriend, look at her putting moves! that cleavage of hers
- i don't find her attractive but hey, i will take what i can get. her friend's a hottie tho, isn't that right
- OBSCENITY IS MASSIVELY DISTRACTING CUZ HE'S EVOL RETARDED
- i think ari is so so, she looks nice but dana has got huge rack and maya with great ass are top level, keri is kinda beautiful, cute in fact but she's a bitch. let's try ari?
I think it's a justification for men's wandering eyes, and a preoccupation, or focus, on being attracted to and choosing their mates based primarily on appearance.
If they want a long[er]term partner, they will obviously take into account all sorts of other characteristics. But in general they won't get to that next step if they're not motivated primarily first by her appearance. Females don't prioritize this as much (for obvious reasons.)
When it's said, it's defensively. Which means that the guy is trying to justify his priorities, or wandering eye, or the validity of acting on some sexual desire.
It's probably true that men get more turned on by visuals during sex. In that context, I think women are more turned on by sensations and emotional connection. The nature of sex allows men more opportunity to see everything.
Men may even be more inclined to love the sight of the opposite sex. They love the sight of beautiful women and check out boobs, butts, etc. But visuals are also mental because they inspire the imagination.
I don't think appreciating the sight of the opposite sex is much different from appreciating the sight of anything else. Both men and women can appreciate cute animals, flowers, landscapes, sunsets, and art. It's natural. People in general are very visual.
Women even awe at the sight of handsome guys. And women are very visual when it comes to clothing and personal appearance. They even critique other women's appearance.
Getting back to whether or not being "visual creatures" means that men are shallow, I'd say that, in the long run, men are interested in much more than mere appearance when it comes to partners. In that sense, men and women are very similar.
I know right at least men don’t usually gossip about other people’s appearance gosh it really annoys the hell out of me when women do that. Like they’ll be calling people fat and stuff when they look like a balloon 🤦♂️ Like girl just shut up and look at how pretty her outfit is don’t be judging a random girl comparing her to others
TLDR: no, it only means that men convert even inner beauty to outer beauty and once we have a mental/emotional connection with her we can have the same joy by looking at an average looking woman as we have looking at a model.
I recently think a lot about what I found physically pleasing, and how perceived physical attraction works and here's my take:
Beauty is an anticipation of a certain outcome. That's why sport cars are beautiful, because we understand how aerodynamics work and just by looking at a car we know it's a fast car (anticipated outcome). So the basic theory is that men find things attractive that indicates good health and fertility. But having all the potential to bare my child is just a part of my exclusively biologically driven equation. In primitive times I'd provide to her, while she keeps our cave clean and coocks, but if she had such a horrible personality that I can't even motivate myself to go for a hunt or to come back than her wide hip doesn't have too much use. But sometimes when there's a girl, we get along well, have lot in common and connect I start seeing all the potentials. It is a logical process that always runs in the background in men's unconscious mind. There's a women with 100% fertility, but 50% potential that one day I go to buy a pack of cigarettes and never come back is only a 50% match. With a girl on the other hand who has a pleasant personality even if less fertile, has higher chance to pass on the DNA and all the evolutionary things. And when I look at her I will see the potential, because I already know her and similarly as I know that a wide hip means fertility, I know that the look that she has means good connection, because the look means that she is the girl I know.
men tend to be more shallow than women. There is a saying "men fall in love with what they see... women fall in love with what they hear". Evolutionarily , a woman who picks a mate with bad character who wouldn't be there for her and her offspring will be very detrimental to them all. This is why women tend focus more on personality than looks. Not saying looks do not matter at all. but women are more flexible with what they are attracted to. For example, an ugly man can still manage to get a few women if he is funny. But an ugly woman wouldn't be able to attract any men even if she was funny.
Mens brains work differently. A study estimated that Men utter less words than a Woman and on average woman have the superior verbal communication skills. Woman also can think and focus on more thoughts at the same time. In another study Woman took 25% to 75% longer than men to find the location of a black and white object moving rapidly on a screen, however both sex’s had similar accuracy. So what does that tell us? Try communicating with a man with visual cues without words like drawing a picture of something or pointing at things, some men really enjoy that
No we are attracted to looks, plain and simple.
Women are attacked to weird arbitrary shit like what his job is or zodiac signs, how much money he has, "ambitions" girls think everyone needs outlandish ambitions.
I'd argue girls are more shallow, most girls think they need a guy taller than them cause they've put so much importance on it, claiming it makes them feel safer or submissive with the tall guy, just putting importance in really dumb things and being attracted more to ideas.
He'll how many times have you seen a guy say "must be under 200 pounds"i n their tinder profile? Not cool right? Well I have seen loads of girls say "if you're under 5'10" just swipe left" so I really don't want to hear about you think we are shallow, I've been ignore several times cause I'm 3 inch shorter then the dream guy.
I'm guessing men are more visual in the sense that they notice a woman is physically healthy, in shape, and well kempt. Perhaps also meaning she will treat her home and any potential children she may have much the same way. Men usually don't care if she's financially secure or not, as they often don't mind being the sole breadwinner. Probably something biological. I could be wrong.
One could easily try to argue that women judging men for their status/money may also seem "shallow." But it could also mean she is interested in a man who is secure, responsible, intelligent, and having strong leadership, which makes for an ideal father.
Just a thought.
It's another way of saying that, yes.
But is it true? Naah, it's complicated. The visual is usually one of the first points of attration, that is if you see them first. But most people that know themselves enough to know it's not enough to shine and sparkle also knows to look past the body when it comes to relationships. But that doesn't mean the attraction isn't there. Comes down to how balanced one is between rational and emotional, I guess.
But likewise I've seen women more than men make shallow assumptions about a guys character without talking to him.
Men do this too just as women surely find the visual parts captivating too at times. Sometimes it means we're shallow in the way of desire. And sometimes it means we're able to appreciate an aspect of someone fully without giving in to it.
Stop the genderwars please. Men this, women that. Blabla.
Depends how you define shallow. If I said women were interested in men who were financially stable and secure, would that be another way of saying all women are gold diggers and hence shallow?
Men are visual - as in we mostly deal with the world through our eyes and something visually striking will be more likely to get our attention. That doesn't mean we chase after every pretty thing or are incapable of judging a girl on more than her looks. There are plenty of good looking single bitches in the world.
There are three ways that humans learn: visual, textual, audible.
Studies have shown that, in general, men learn best by visual things (reading a map), for example, while women learn best by a combination of textual (written directions, for example) and audible (someone explaining how to get somewhere, for example). there are exceptions, of course, and a well-prepared presentation includes all three: for example, a PowerPoint presentation that includes graphics/pictures and text, explained verbally by the presenter.
Calling men "visual creatures" simply means that most men recognize things they see.
Our brains are hard wired for this but doesn’t mean we all indulge it. If we really were “visual” creatures that it would be near impossible for a man to stay in a relationship.
If I see a beautiful 19 year old girl walk by me I will likely feel an involuntarily strong impulse. But I know better than to stare beyond 2 seconds or to do some cat calling bs. The thought in itself does NOT make me “a creep” rather my actions will define that.
Anyway most men recognize their impulses and logically know the consequences if they engage them. We value meaningful relationships more than you realize.
No. More like there is a strong superficial component to their attraction. But it doesn't reflect shallowness. Women are examples of this point as they don't need to have a strong visual sense of attraction to have a shallow sense of attraction, they just like different stuff.
For the most part, I see men's attraction as more pure -- as that superficial component is largely just a strong fascination and satisfaction with geometry, materials, colour, etc. It's mostly untainted by external things like income or degrees.
Guys are really shallow and i can't tell you how many times I catch people staring at my boobs.
humans are visual creatures. The enlightened ones see more of you than that. Of course being beautiful gets your foot in the door. But without the personality or brains to back it up then the only thing getting through that door was your foot... and now I've politely pushed it aside and closed my door waiting for one who has more to offer than a body or looks. Those things dont define a Lady. Without a good heart she's not getting anywhere with me! ^^
We are also visual.
It's not an excuse to be shallow.
Nothing wrong in being visual though.
Yeah men are shallow. All of them. You should stay away from men because they have no depth. All they think about is sex and nothing else. They have no emotions, feelings, creativity or ability. Everything they do is about sex.
Men who care, who have feelings, who have any depth of character exist only in romantic fiction written by women.
You are better off being a lesbian, or doing a platonic marriage with your best friend. And if you want to engage in sex with a man, just hook-up with a guy that's attractive enough, knock out your ya-ya's and go back to your rich tapestry which is your life full of depth and meaning, something no guy will relate to ever because he's still in cave man mode, just looking for sex. If you are looking for a meaningful relationship with man, your better off with a dog. Get a dog, platonically marry your best friend and occasionally hook-up when you have the itch to have sex with a zoo animal. It's the only way to be happy.
Men and women both are visual creatures and both could be shallow.
Men are visual creatures in sense of bare body and curves you show a guy a well clothed laid he will still think of her without clothes even if you put a million dollar dress on her.
But with women it's different they value more external looks above the body what kinda clothing what brand are they mayching how much it's worth the value spent on the material makes the guy interesting for them and there style
Tell me now who is shallow between the two 😎
General populous does if you like them it's not like every women but ones they find attractive.
Maybe you have not yet met someone that you would really want to imagine the curves 😜
You said barely , which means you still do it 🤣 gottcha!!!
Of course not, that is how our brains are wired over millennia's via evolution. I used to date a woman I really like, however whenever we were intimate (i. e. had sex) she preferred it with the light off, as she was conscious of her body, and I just wasn't able to come, we'd have to turn the lights on for that to happen, even though I'd try to use my imagination but she wasn't much of a talker she'd be spaced out with pleasure to talk lol so yeah I definitely needed the light on, and for her to look pretty too I mean with makeup on. That relationship lasted 7 years.
Yeah toward the later end of our relationship I did want her to wear makeup when we made out, or I was going to be a while. But we broke up because I moved back to my home country (UK) and her country was refusing me an extended visa, and for me to stay with her and potentially have a family it kind of became untenable.
She about a 7 without makeup and a solid 10 with makeup, but she used to hate wearing makeup toward the latter half of our relationship and not to mention the extra weight she put on, I didn't mind it but it wasn't attractive if you get what I mean. Not to mention her best friend started becoming flirty with me, at first I thought I was being set up by my ex at the time, but I slowly realised her best friend was into me, and the woman I was with had actually told me stories of how her best friend I mean who was very good looking was sleeping with the manager (who was married) and it was all because he was letting her talk and relaxed at work with the woman I was dating and she was a "lead supervisor" at an Amazon call centre, sorry I digress. The woman I was dating in the first 1 to 2 years was an 8 I would say, but then she kind of stopped putting on makeup at home or wearing nice dresses and she started slipping to a 6/7 and it wasn't doing it for me in the bedroom, but I liked her in other ways, her intellect, mannerisms etc, that is why I stuck it out with her for such a long time. Even though I also started having a crush on her best friend who was showing an interest in me. But thank G-d I didn't date her best friend, even though we did makeout when I was drunk, and her best friend kept telling me to take more shots and that she'd look after me, and it was my birthday she didn't drink she was a teetotaler, so somehow because my girlfriend of the time was in another country I and her best friend were hanging out she actually told me to go with her best friend because my girlfriend of the time didn't trust me to get high and drunk in another country by myself.
1. Everyone is visual. People see someone first before even starting a conversation with them in person.
2. If someone wears something provocatively, they ARE wearing it for attention from others. If they weren't doing it for that purpose they would wear the same outfits at home when not going anywhere.
Possible. The expression might also suggest that men appreciate the finer details life has to offer.
For example: will you place notice this beautiful picture that I found
No because it can be supported by science. Several studies have shown that male brains have stronger reaction to visual stimuli than female brains do. Specifically the amygdala area.
And I actually wish women were as visual as men because it would make dating easier but unfortunately women’s sexuality is designed differently. It is what it is.
I even believe that women aren’t actually capable of being physically attracted to men, that’s why they are always grossed out by anything sexual and don’t get wet by the sight of men’s bodies.
Men desire women, women want to be desired by men.
And no I’m not a sexist, I’m just speaking simple facts.
@ADFSDF1996 Do you tend to think God may be cosmically "woman-centric", as he created men to be more visual and Christianity is supposed to be more immaterial and "spiritual" minded? I also read before that the church for centuries had a "men problem" with it's membership demographic.
I do agree above that I wish women were as visual as men because it would make dating easier and also more fun. Why aren't muscles and build of guys as visually appealing to women? I guess women might be visual sometimes, but it is only towards a more minority of men's looks.
@KlinkyCoder Probably not “woman centric” but he did create men and women to take part in two different roles.
While humans are NEAR the top of the food chain, we are NOT consistently the 'alpha'.
A 'wise' animal seeks to make more opportunities than are simply 'found'...
IF Nature's purpose is to encourage the evolved dispersion of DNA, at 10 yards a primative male doesn't
get to 'know' a female's personality or IQ. Appearance becomes a mating display and is 'why' with rare exceptions (ex: Junior Miss Beauty Pageants) , 'tart'-ing-up females under 14yrs old as potentially signaling maturing physical intimacies, is viewed as criminally-prosecutable, despite however the female herself may be inclined. She is deemed 'chattel' with little, if any physical sovereignty.
'Allure' is a regionally-LEARNED reproductive inclination, during every human's formative years (despite what Feminists would prefer) BOTH males and females LEARN where to allocate time and prevailing resources through societal example, to affect the most 'desired' benefits of 'courtship'. Despite Feminism, how a female dresses, ... flirts and deports herself signals IF she's intimately inclined.
In the sixties, a cultural novelty shop carried female T-shirts which read: "Yes, I DO... but NOT with You".
These days, cultural insecurity, the #Me Too movement and 'love 'em / leave 'em' hook-ups have made flirting a near lost art.
These days I've seen 'naughty' (ie: rebellious = shocking) racey T-shirts on 12 yr olds that read: "Lick me til I die" and "Save a lollipop, lick ME instead" ... the juvenile wearers knowing FULL well, the paradoxical conundrum of those inclinations to get adults arrested.