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Trending & News While humans are NEAR the top of the food chain, we are NOT consistently the 'alpha'.
A 'wise' animal seeks to make more opportunities than are simply 'found'...
IF Nature's purpose is to encourage the evolved dispersion of DNA, at 10 yards a primative male doesn't
get to 'know' a female's personality or IQ. Appearance becomes a mating display and is 'why' with rare exceptions (ex: Junior Miss Beauty Pageants) , 'tart'-ing-up females under 14yrs old as potentially signaling maturing physical intimacies, is viewed as criminally-prosecutable, despite however the female herself may be inclined. She is deemed 'chattel' with little, if any physical sovereignty.
'Allure' is a regionally-LEARNED reproductive inclination, during every human's formative years (despite what Feminists would prefer) BOTH males and females LEARN where to allocate time and prevailing resources through societal example, to affect the most 'desired' benefits of 'courtship'. Despite Feminism, how a female dresses, ... flirts and deports herself signals IF she's intimately inclined.
In the sixties, a cultural novelty shop carried female T-shirts which read: "Yes, I DO... but NOT with You".
These days, cultural insecurity, the #Me Too movement and 'love 'em / leave 'em' hook-ups have made flirting a near lost art.
These days I've seen 'naughty' (ie: rebellious = shocking) racey T-shirts on 12 yr olds that read: "Lick me til I die" and "Save a lollipop, lick ME instead" ... the juvenile wearers knowing FULL well, the paradoxical conundrum of those inclinations to get adults arrested.
No... it's usually not meant to refer to men being shallow. It's LITERALLY that men seem to be more 'visual'... specifically when it comes to sex and being turned on. It may apply in other situations... but, as far as I know it's nearly always in reference to differences in sexual arousal between the genders.
The sorta 'classic' example is that men masturbate to porn (visual) whereas women masturbate to fantasies after reading trashy romance novels.
Now, keep in mind that the internet has completely shattered any Victorian ideas that women (as a whole) aren't every bit as dirty, raunchy, depraved and whatnot as men when it comes to porn.
Nevertheless, I think that there's still at least SOME truth in the general observation. For guys the want to SEE the sexiness. For women... it's... a little more 'mental' or fantasy based.
This definitely holds true when I think about myself, as well as anyone else I have been close enough with to discuss our sex habits.
So, I suppose you COULD look at this as reflecting 'shallowness' on the part of men... but I think that really misses the point. It's more like... I prefer the lights on in the bedroom so I can see all hotness. I don't want to HEAR about the sexy outfit you've got on... I want a picture of you wearing it. It's... that type of thing.
So... maybe men in this regard are "simpler" as in "not as complex"... but I definitely wouldn't say "shallow" (It may or may not be shallow... it's just the wrong frame to look at it)
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It depends.
Most men I have known in real life are pretty respectful even if they dislike your outfit. It's the society that is mind numbing.
- wear something else, sara! young boys in your school are horny and impulsive yk
- she's trying to steal my boyfriend, look at her putting moves! that cleavage of hers
- i don't find her attractive but hey, i will take what i can get. her friend's a hottie tho, isn't that right
- OBSCENITY IS MASSIVELY DISTRACTING CUZ HE'S EVOL RETARDED
- i think ari is so so, she looks nice but dana has got huge rack and maya with great ass are top level, keri is kinda beautiful, cute in fact but she's a bitch. let's try ari?
These examples are real
Interesting question.
I think it's a justification for men's wandering eyes, and a preoccupation, or focus, on being attracted to and choosing their mates based primarily on appearance.
If they want a long[er]term partner, they will obviously take into account all sorts of other characteristics. But in general they won't get to that next step if they're not motivated primarily first by her appearance. Females don't prioritize this as much (for obvious reasons.)
When it's said, it's defensively. Which means that the guy is trying to justify his priorities, or wandering eye, or the validity of acting on some sexual desire.
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It's probably true that men get more turned on by visuals during sex. In that context, I think women are more turned on by sensations and emotional connection. The nature of sex allows men more opportunity to see everything.
Men may even be more inclined to love the sight of the opposite sex. They love the sight of beautiful women and check out boobs, butts, etc. But visuals are also mental because they inspire the imagination.
I don't think appreciating the sight of the opposite sex is much different from appreciating the sight of anything else. Both men and women can appreciate cute animals, flowers, landscapes, sunsets, and art. It's natural. People in general are very visual.
Women even awe at the sight of handsome guys. And women are very visual when it comes to clothing and personal appearance. They even critique other women's appearance.
Getting back to whether or not being "visual creatures" means that men are shallow, I'd say that, in the long run, men are interested in much more than mere appearance when it comes to partners. In that sense, men and women are very similar.
I know right at least men don’t usually gossip about other people’s appearance gosh it really annoys the hell out of me when women do that. Like they’ll be calling people fat and stuff when they look like a balloon 🤦♂️ Like girl just shut up and look at how pretty her outfit is don’t be judging a random girl comparing her to others
TLDR: no, it only means that men convert even inner beauty to outer beauty and once we have a mental/emotional connection with her we can have the same joy by looking at an average looking woman as we have looking at a model.
I recently think a lot about what I found physically pleasing, and how perceived physical attraction works and here's my take:
Beauty is an anticipation of a certain outcome. That's why sport cars are beautiful, because we understand how aerodynamics work and just by looking at a car we know it's a fast car (anticipated outcome). So the basic theory is that men find things attractive that indicates good health and fertility. But having all the potential to bare my child is just a part of my exclusively biologically driven equation. In primitive times I'd provide to her, while she keeps our cave clean and coocks, but if she had such a horrible personality that I can't even motivate myself to go for a hunt or to come back than her wide hip doesn't have too much use. But sometimes when there's a girl, we get along well, have lot in common and connect I start seeing all the potentials. It is a logical process that always runs in the background in men's unconscious mind. There's a women with 100% fertility, but 50% potential that one day I go to buy a pack of cigarettes and never come back is only a 50% match. With a girl on the other hand who has a pleasant personality even if less fertile, has higher chance to pass on the DNA and all the evolutionary things. And when I look at her I will see the potential, because I already know her and similarly as I know that a wide hip means fertility, I know that the look that she has means good connection, because the look means that she is the girl I know.
men tend to be more shallow than women. There is a saying "men fall in love with what they see... women fall in love with what they hear". Evolutionarily , a woman who picks a mate with bad character who wouldn't be there for her and her offspring will be very detrimental to them all. This is why women tend focus more on personality than looks. Not saying looks do not matter at all. but women are more flexible with what they are attracted to. For example, an ugly man can still manage to get a few women if he is funny. But an ugly woman wouldn't be able to attract any men even if she was funny.
Mens brains work differently. A study estimated that Men utter less words than a Woman and on average woman have the superior verbal communication skills. Woman also can think and focus on more thoughts at the same time. In another study Woman took 25% to 75% longer than men to find the location of a black and white object moving rapidly on a screen, however both sex’s had similar accuracy. So what does that tell us? Try communicating with a man with visual cues without words like drawing a picture of something or pointing at things, some men really enjoy that
No we are attracted to looks, plain and simple.
Women are attacked to weird arbitrary shit like what his job is or zodiac signs, how much money he has, "ambitions" girls think everyone needs outlandish ambitions.
I'd argue girls are more shallow, most girls think they need a guy taller than them cause they've put so much importance on it, claiming it makes them feel safer or submissive with the tall guy, just putting importance in really dumb things and being attracted more to ideas.
He'll how many times have you seen a guy say "must be under 200 pounds"i n their tinder profile? Not cool right? Well I have seen loads of girls say "if you're under 5'10" just swipe left" so I really don't want to hear about you think we are shallow, I've been ignore several times cause I'm 3 inch shorter then the dream guy.
I'm guessing men are more visual in the sense that they notice a woman is physically healthy, in shape, and well kempt. Perhaps also meaning she will treat her home and any potential children she may have much the same way. Men usually don't care if she's financially secure or not, as they often don't mind being the sole breadwinner. Probably something biological. I could be wrong.
One could easily try to argue that women judging men for their status/money may also seem "shallow." But it could also mean she is interested in a man who is secure, responsible, intelligent, and having strong leadership, which makes for an ideal father.
Just a thought.
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It's another way of saying that, yes.
But is it true? Naah, it's complicated. The visual is usually one of the first points of attration, that is if you see them first. But most people that know themselves enough to know it's not enough to shine and sparkle also knows to look past the body when it comes to relationships. But that doesn't mean the attraction isn't there. Comes down to how balanced one is between rational and emotional, I guess.
But likewise I've seen women more than men make shallow assumptions about a guys character without talking to him.
Men do this too just as women surely find the visual parts captivating too at times. Sometimes it means we're shallow in the way of desire. And sometimes it means we're able to appreciate an aspect of someone fully without giving in to it.
Stop the genderwars please. Men this, women that. Blabla.
Depends how you define shallow. If I said women were interested in men who were financially stable and secure, would that be another way of saying all women are gold diggers and hence shallow?
Men are visual - as in we mostly deal with the world through our eyes and something visually striking will be more likely to get our attention. That doesn't mean we chase after every pretty thing or are incapable of judging a girl on more than her looks. There are plenty of good looking single bitches in the world.
There are three ways that humans learn: visual, textual, audible.
Studies have shown that, in general, men learn best by visual things (reading a map), for example, while women learn best by a combination of textual (written directions, for example) and audible (someone explaining how to get somewhere, for example). there are exceptions, of course, and a well-prepared presentation includes all three: for example, a PowerPoint presentation that includes graphics/pictures and text, explained verbally by the presenter.
Calling men "visual creatures" simply means that most men recognize things they see.
Our brains are hard wired for this but doesn’t mean we all indulge it. If we really were “visual” creatures that it would be near impossible for a man to stay in a relationship.
If I see a beautiful 19 year old girl walk by me I will likely feel an involuntarily strong impulse. But I know better than to stare beyond 2 seconds or to do some cat calling bs. The thought in itself does NOT make me “a creep” rather my actions will define that.
Anyway most men recognize their impulses and logically know the consequences if they engage them. We value meaningful relationships more than you realize.
No. More like there is a strong superficial component to their attraction. But it doesn't reflect shallowness. Women are examples of this point as they don't need to have a strong visual sense of attraction to have a shallow sense of attraction, they just like different stuff.
For the most part, I see men's attraction as more pure -- as that superficial component is largely just a strong fascination and satisfaction with geometry, materials, colour, etc. It's mostly untainted by external things like income or degrees.
humans are visual creatures. The enlightened ones see more of you than that. Of course being beautiful gets your foot in the door. But without the personality or brains to back it up then the only thing getting through that door was your foot... and now I've politely pushed it aside and closed my door waiting for one who has more to offer than a body or looks. Those things dont define a Lady. Without a good heart she's not getting anywhere with me! ^^
We are also visual.
It's not an excuse to be shallow.
Nothing wrong in being visual though.
Yeah men are shallow. All of them. You should stay away from men because they have no depth. All they think about is sex and nothing else. They have no emotions, feelings, creativity or ability. Everything they do is about sex.
Men who care, who have feelings, who have any depth of character exist only in romantic fiction written by women.
You are better off being a lesbian, or doing a platonic marriage with your best friend. And if you want to engage in sex with a man, just hook-up with a guy that's attractive enough, knock out your ya-ya's and go back to your rich tapestry which is your life full of depth and meaning, something no guy will relate to ever because he's still in cave man mode, just looking for sex. If you are looking for a meaningful relationship with man, your better off with a dog. Get a dog, platonically marry your best friend and occasionally hook-up when you have the itch to have sex with a zoo animal. It's the only way to be happy.
Men and women both are visual creatures and both could be shallow.
Men are visual creatures in sense of bare body and curves you show a guy a well clothed laid he will still think of her without clothes even if you put a million dollar dress on her.
But with women it's different they value more external looks above the body what kinda clothing what brand are they mayching how much it's worth the value spent on the material makes the guy interesting for them and there style
Tell me now who is shallow between the two 😎
General populous does if you like them it's not like every women but ones they find attractive.
Maybe you have not yet met someone that you would really want to imagine the curves 😜
You said barely , which means you still do it 🤣 gottcha!!!
Guys are really shallow and i can't tell you how many times I catch people staring at my boobs.
Of course not, that is how our brains are wired over millennia's via evolution. I used to date a woman I really like, however whenever we were intimate (i. e. had sex) she preferred it with the light off, as she was conscious of her body, and I just wasn't able to come, we'd have to turn the lights on for that to happen, even though I'd try to use my imagination but she wasn't much of a talker she'd be spaced out with pleasure to talk lol so yeah I definitely needed the light on, and for her to look pretty too I mean with makeup on. That relationship lasted 7 years.
Yeah toward the later end of our relationship I did want her to wear makeup when we made out, or I was going to be a while. But we broke up because I moved back to my home country (UK) and her country was refusing me an extended visa, and for me to stay with her and potentially have a family it kind of became untenable.
She about a 7 without makeup and a solid 10 with makeup, but she used to hate wearing makeup toward the latter half of our relationship and not to mention the extra weight she put on, I didn't mind it but it wasn't attractive if you get what I mean. Not to mention her best friend started becoming flirty with me, at first I thought I was being set up by my ex at the time, but I slowly realised her best friend was into me, and the woman I was with had actually told me stories of how her best friend I mean who was very good looking was sleeping with the manager (who was married) and it was all because he was letting her talk and relaxed at work with the woman I was dating and she was a "lead supervisor" at an Amazon call centre, sorry I digress. The woman I was dating in the first 1 to 2 years was an 8 I would say, but then she kind of stopped putting on makeup at home or wearing nice dresses and she started slipping to a 6/7 and it wasn't doing it for me in the bedroom, but I liked her in other ways, her intellect, mannerisms etc, that is why I stuck it out with her for such a long time. Even though I also started having a crush on her best friend who was showing an interest in me. But thank G-d I didn't date her best friend, even though we did makeout when I was drunk, and her best friend kept telling me to take more shots and that she'd look after me, and it was my birthday she didn't drink she was a teetotaler, so somehow because my girlfriend of the time was in another country I and her best friend were hanging out she actually told me to go with her best friend because my girlfriend of the time didn't trust me to get high and drunk in another country by myself.
1. Everyone is visual. People see someone first before even starting a conversation with them in person.
2. If someone wears something provocatively, they ARE wearing it for attention from others. If they weren't doing it for that purpose they would wear the same outfits at home when not going anywhere.
Possible. The expression might also suggest that men appreciate the finer details life has to offer.
For example: will you place notice this beautiful picture that I found
No because it can be supported by science. Several studies have shown that male brains have stronger reaction to visual stimuli than female brains do. Specifically the amygdala area.
And I actually wish women were as visual as men because it would make dating easier but unfortunately women’s sexuality is designed differently. It is what it is.
I even believe that women aren’t actually capable of being physically attracted to men, that’s why they are always grossed out by anything sexual and don’t get wet by the sight of men’s bodies.
Men desire women, women want to be desired by men.
And no I’m not a sexist, I’m just speaking simple facts.
@adfsdf1996 Do you tend to think God may be cosmically "woman-centric", as he created men to be more visual and Christianity is supposed to be more immaterial and "spiritual" minded? I also read before that the church for centuries had a "men problem" with it's membership demographic.
I do agree above that I wish women were as visual as men because it would make dating easier and also more fun. Why aren't muscles and build of guys as visually appealing to women? I guess women might be visual sometimes, but it is only towards a more minority of men's looks.
@KlinkyCoder Probably not “woman centric” but he did create men and women to take part in two different roles.
Nah, it just means we are stimulated more by visuals/things we can see. What visuals stimulate us can vary a bit but it’s like saying women are shallow because they tend to date at or above their own socioeconomic status. Men date at or below theirs most of the time so one could make the same argument in reverse when it all just comes down to biology anyways. We are literally more stimulated by visual cues and women tend to date people who they can imagine a safe and secure life with.
No. It means that men are biologically wired to get a natural high out of seeing attractive women. It's the first thing he notices but not the only thing guys notice. The fact a lot of attractive looking women whine about not being able to get a man to take her seriously is proof that men do think deeply when it comes to real relationships.
Everyone is shallow. Shallow is just a term we use to mock other people for prioritizing their own desires over ours.
But when we say men are visual creatures, we mean our eyes tend to cut in line when it comes to thoughts we queue up to think about.
No , its that men have a larger proportion of the brain dealing with the processing of visual cues that has been hard wired in, for instance, checking for threats, food etc.
Men mat not realise it but when they enter a new place or even an old place that they have not been to for a while they automatically check the place for threats, spot exits, scan the faces for anyone they know (allies/enemies), what food/drink is available, the list goes on.
I build a lot of things I make a lot of things and I have to be able to see it in order to do it I have to run it past my brain my eyes do understand what the people are looking for and when they tell me exactly what they're looking for I can fix it I can visualize it and I can build it by the way if me looking at that girl's butt just walking by in your post makes me shallow it's okay I'll be shallow because that's a nice butt
Stupid bitches... You know we had to be made that way right?
Think of how flowers get pollinated... Their pretty petals attract a bee so that a bee will pollinate the flower... Girls work in the same way... You bitches are like flowers... And use your good looks to attract the male to pollinate you... That's jus how it is... It's nature... God made it that way so we spread our seed and make lots of babies... how is it shallow and how are. ylu going to insult us for the way was made and was suppose to be made? Would you prefer if we was a-sexual and didn't wanna pollinate any girls?
Ok, have it your way.. we will all ignore you, stupid bitches
Yeah because you flowers have nothing to be attracted by... You don't see men as pretty flowers you gotta go pollinate... you jus sit there and wait for a bee to come pollinate you... But you don't see us shaming. you or trying to come up with some. insult. for the way you are... I could say girls only care about a guys muscles or wealth... Anyway, my point is... We was made that way... Stop trying to insult us and use that fucking word shallow... we had to be made this way
The audacity you have for mentioning God in your comment while insulting, being angry, at others.
"But now you must put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and obscene talk from your mouth."
-Colossians 3:8
"Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you."
-Ephesians 4:32
"for the anger of man does not produce the righteousness of God."
-James 1:20
No. Deeply wired instinctive drive to look at women and judge and rank their looks has nothing to do with values and how a man evaluates people consciously. If he continues using the shallow input even after more information becomes available, then he is a shallow individual. No need to put all men in that category, just because we are more sensitive to visual input.
No because it's not solely that. But that's the "heart" of it if that makes sense. Like for women, it's mostly mental for you that gets you aroused, for us it's the visual. That's something a lot of women don't seem to understand either (because you can't relate I don't think?), it's not just we like the visual, it can and often does arouse us as well. Were it doesn't always with you. And it's not a choice either, it's the way we naturally are as males.
No. They really are more visual.. it's backed by science. But.. good news? That's not all they are. The visual is what might attract them, they are human and complex also. So it might not keep them.
Yes and that photo was awesome. The guy with glasses is clearly the pervert in that photo but man that woman looks like she keeps herself healthy and without even needing those tight ass jeans. Damn 🙏🙏🙏 god bless ☮️☮️☮️
Id say no, because them being visual doesn't mean they only like mainstream things. It just means they'd rather look at their wives body than a woman who would more likely prefer sexy talk or maybe sexting. Its the reason men are more prone to porn while women like smut or audios.
Yes exactly its just what catches our attention more or what turns us on although girls can be visual as well
No. Our DNA built men as hunters. You hunt first with your eyes. Whether it's sexually or for food, human males are hardwired to be visually stimulated. No amount of new-age anti-male propaganda and social pressure is going to change that. The statistics show 99% of men are sexually driven by visual stimulation. Ther rest fall into 3 categories: liars, blind and dead.
Yes, that's the most shallow thing a guy can say. It might be true but if that's the only thing they're looking for then it's a red flag.
We’re all visual. It’s not just men. Women are visual too.
Yeah and it's totally false, we're all energy creatures. For example, I can guess if someone's probably cute or whatnot from what they write online, no pic needed. That's the energy we're attracted to
@CrazyGirl2 Is my pet example
Yeah. it's energy that is attractive. We all wake up when the sun shines. So rise and shine
it's like saying we're all bee's. we see pretty flower, we "pollinate" pretty flower
except we have more self control over our actions than bee's do
Men and women are both visual creatures, and both have a shallow side in my experience.
Some individuals are less shallow than others, but ultimately none of us are going to fall in Love with a person we're not attracted to.
Uhm no, only a girl with daddy-issues and negative romantic experiences will say this. I'm a man and I'm visual and absolutely not proud of getting so turned on by a fine ass and wanting to see her naked. I've learnt to control my urges and treat human beings with respect, and getting turned on by certain body parts is just encoded in me for thousands of years of evolution. I don't need to fewl ashamed, I'm just not proud of it and will not act on it with just any girl, only my wife preferably.
It is not shallow to assess the genetic quality of a potential mate.
Though most men do not understand the process sufficiently to realise it, that is what they are doing when they check out a female.
Men are visual creatures, & women are emotional creatures.
That’s why men have strip clubs & women have book clubs.
No. It means they like seeing females naked, or just partly naked. They get turned on.
No. It's a descriptor. I am very visual. I love visually enjoying women, nature and trees, the sky and moon, seascapes, etc. I take much pleasure in visual beauty. That could just be a male thing, at least in particular when it comes to the other gender. I am certainly not shallow, but I do enjoy the supreme beauty of a woman's body. Don't know if I fully believe it, but Libras are also supposed to be 'aesthetes'.
What's the alternative? Never have I ever met a woman that had anything else to offer. Instead they only ever want things from a partner.
It's rather narcistic and selfish to pick at and try to fault with the only reason men could even consider suffering for women.
Well some guys are shallow, but the saying refers to how guys respond as in to visual stimulation, it's not in reference to looks. It's not a general classification though as many guys respond to emotion too.
All humans are visual. I look at mens shoulders... their face... their crotch. Does that make me shallow?
No, it's a way to state the obvious, that a mammal who's most accurate sense is sight is a visual creature.
You are also a visual creature. Your occipital lobe is 18% of your cortex, the most dedicated to any single external facing sense.
It's a way of describing a way in which we process information.
It's neutral.
WHAT we do with that information is what makes one shallow or not.
No. It just means that we tend to notice appearance first.
No, they are visual because of their biology & how they made , hormones playing a huge factor. Doesn't mean they're shallow, unless they repeatedly try to use that as an excuse for inappropriate/wrong brehaviors
Yes. I would say humans in general are shallow. We literally evolved to navigate the world by vision, and audio. We can go past this, but I doubt it will happen collectively as a species.
No not at all. It's a proven scientific & biological fact in their wiring. It's not a judgement call at all.
We are hardwired to love female beauty. We are turned on by it. But the personality must click with ours to fall in love.
No, because such a statement simply highlights initial attraction. No matter how hot a girl is, a bad personality or a lack of substance, or depth means lack of attraction.
That was made as a convenience for women
Most Women don’t know how to be sexy
Can you imagine if women had to actually work to turn a guy on so we would have sex with them the world would be under populated
Women really take the male sex drive for granted
If we said we weren’t in the mood or don’t feel like it when they want it they’d be really annoyed and irritated
No, it’s just another way of saying “I don’t know anything about men, and I don’t care to take the time to understand that men are human beings with nuance, varied and complex interests”.
Well, "shallow" usually has a negative connotation.
Being a visual creature isn't really positive or negative. It's just fact. It's science.
Men are visual creatures. It is some leftover part of our evolution. They needed this to be effective hunters. Then it served to enhance mechanical skills and the ability to build shelter. Shallow has nothing to do with it.
We girls should be thankful men are so visual coz if they weren't none of us would be getting any attention coz lets face it lots of us are bitches
You get a lot of attention?
Yes I enjoy looking at a beautiful woman. I notice that my wife checks out the bums of men that are her type. Is she shallow?
What in the actual fck of the couples lol, how do you allow your wife to look at other men and vice versa! Wow
@Pumpkinspice009 You cannot control another person.
@Highcountry Lol I’d rather stay single than being with someone that doesn’t care about what I do in the name of the freedom ! You say it as if you two are best friends and are not being in a marital relationship, if you don’t care about her checking other men out, how will you be convinced she’s not gonna cheat on you and the same thing as for her !
No. You think women aren't visual creatures? Then why do they buy expensive purses and jewelry? Oh right because it looks good to the eyes. 😂
It's a bias. Everyone is a visual creature. You wouldn't be with a guy that was physically hideous to you, would you unless he had a ton of money?
Easy to type that on a phone or maybe you are the extreme few. Nobody is going to reject a potential husband or wife they knowingly that person has a lot of money unless they have a lot of money themselves.
It's like you flushing a jackpot winnin lotto ticket down the drain... not happening and you know it.
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