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+1 yI've had sex with 3 women 40+ so I don't think so at all. It's just a matter of them really taking care of themselves. Some do and some don't. In the US, obesity is outrageous. I mean.. I was at a bar last weekend and there were just fatties everywhere. It was disgusting.
The thing is, in certain age ranges, some people look for certain common stereotypes. Like I notice many women in their 30's who are single are seriously looking to marry. I don't want to marry, so my options can get limited. So many guys may avoid those if they are the same way, especially with how many horror stories guys are showing with their divorce cases. However, many women in their 40's could be facing the aftermath of an ugly divorce, have leftover kids, and so on. On the other hand, if a woman's single in her 40's with no history some guys will be judgmental (girls do the same here!) and think there's something like.. mentally wrong with them or just be on the lookout for some critical dealbreaker that they're probably very wrong about.
After age 25, it may not even be the looks, just the mindset they see the women having. Girls past 25 typically become extremely picky in all the wrong ways from what I see. I typically see girls under 25 dating much more freely and really meeting guys for who they are. After 25 the girls typically get interview-like with their dates in terms of finding Mr. Perfect and many guys don't like going on a date with a girl who is being selective in all the wrong ways (that always come back to income). These girls want a guy with a certain size house, a high earning career, and so on typically. Many guys will seek out younger girls just to avoid dating these fake independents.12 Reply- +1 y
I've definitely heard of that! Peer pressure to marry and they think something is "wrong" with them. It makes me wonder if that is largely a part of why so many marriages get rushed.
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Please listen when I say this: You are more than your body.
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+1 ySo a woman's value is only superficial?
with that attitude it'd be more fulfilling and cheaper to get a lifetime subscription to Penthouse :P
sexist objectification aside, if we were strictly speaking of aesthetic traits, i'd probably have to agree with them.
Relatively speaking, boys start out to be relatively lackluster and grow to be more distinguished after they reach their peak. Girls start out as more adorable and then lose their visual appeal after their peak, unless undertaking extraordinary measures as a few celebrities have.
I've thought about this phenomenon recently and arrived at a few influencing factors:
--Women have longer lifespans... so their aging is more prominently noticed by society at large. Men of comparable age statistically are likely in a coffin, and as such their appearance isn't exactly noticed.
--Women are more valued for how they express themselves... whereas men are valued at how they can perform... of the two, appearance is moreso a reflection of expression, ergo the bias (which is generally fair if you look at the genders' respective neurology)
--Women have thinner skin, and a thicker subdermal fat layer than men (that thins with age). So wrinkles are more prominent... and I may be wrong but I imagine blemishes may be more likely to form as well due to the menopausal hormonal irregularities.
--And lastly... we can't forget the media... they drill into everyone's mind the concept that women's faces are SUPPOSED to be flawless art, and men's are just rugged... so what happens when people can no longer accommodate the cosmetics/fashion industries and can no longer even try to emulate tv and magazine models?12 Reply- +1 y
thanks for replying :)
Yes, I have heard this before from many men, especially in my culture, guys really won't consider a woman past a certain age... even my dad said what you wrote (but in a nicer way to me... basically unmarried women past a certain age are a burden to society)... it's depressing because I'm 30... but even though I look the same as when I was 18, the fact that I'm 30 would be a huge turn off to most guys, and because of that they would find me undesirable.
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Sometimes find a partner & getting married are not easy. Some men do not want to get married, so it's leaves some women single. I don't see how an unmarried woman would be a burden to society. If we take mother Theresa for example, she was unmarried, & she did amazing things to help the world. She was definitely not a burden to society.
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Thanks : ) Yeah... I completely agree with you... I don't think unmarried women are burdens on society at all... my dad thinks otherwise... I think he is coming to terms with the fact that I'm how old I am and not married... he also used to tell me most of the people that are in hell are unmarried women...
478 opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. It depends what you eat / how many lotions you use on your face / what you wear / how often you exercise / what you do for a living. If you have a good career = nobody really cares if your not that hot. Career wins out over hotness any day of the week.
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I also value my job. Men on the sites I'm thinking of always put career women down, & say they are not feminine enough. I realize you have to be strong to have a career, but that doesn't mean you can't come home & be a feminine force. Plus, don't we all have a right to choose whether or not to be feminine or masculine, does it really make one person better than the next? Thanks
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If you ever see a bunch of high school students - younger woman are usually demure, gentle, subtle, temperate, emotional and vulnerable. Once they endure what life has to offer - they become more masculine. It happens to 99% of them. A gentle disposition - without an aggressive attitude is not sustainable when things get tough.
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i think that'd be more accurate if there were such a thing as true gender equality in the workforce.
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Inequality does not mean that success is impossible - it just means that it is harder. Plenty of black guys became successful in the days when there was racism against African americans and discouragement of them enrolling in university. George Washington Carver was an excellent example of this.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yYour looks depreciate but you can certainly slow it down by taking good care of yourself. Same goes for fertility
Your personality shouldn't depreciate.
The difference between men and women is that the qualities which appreciate with age tend to be qualities which women care more about and men care less about. Men don't care how rich you are, how charming and confident you are, etc. So you don't have anything to compensate for the depreciating looks and fertility
Another problem for women is that men tend to be really romantic in late teens early twenties, but From late 20s onward, men these days tend to be less interested in settling down. I think it's because divorce is so common these days. By that age many men have friends that are already divorced. Also by that age they've had enough romantic disappointment to wake up from the 'my parents made a mess of their love lives, but I will be different' fantasy. rejections and break ups harden men's hearts. men really do change.
as josefmaf says, you are more than your body. BUT if your body is depreciating and the other aspects of you which matter to men are not appreciating, overall you're depreciating, right?
my advice is to start looking for THAT guy. At your age it should be easy. I don't mean get married now or whatever. I mean find the guy you think you want to spend the rest of your life. Many guys your age are still in the 'romantic' phase. If you lock onto one now, he will stay romantic for the rest of your relationship. Also in terms of quality you'll be able to get a far higher quality guy now than you will be able to down the line. Just being real here14 Reply
Opinion Owner+1 yunfortunately many people these days think that men and women are just the same. like those guys that think 'if a woman walked up and basically offered me sex i'd say yes, so women should say yes when i do it. it's so unfair. why won't women just drop your underwear'. on the female side it's 'I care about career status and financial stability in a man, so why don't men care about that in women. it's so unfair. why do the hot young girls get the attention'. those people have to choose between complaining about reality or accepting it and trying to get the best solution possible
Opinion Owner+1 yit helps no one to pretend that women are different than they really are or that men are different than they really are
Opinion Owner+1 yno problem. hope it helps. don't be down on yourself. but do be focused on your goals, including your goals in the world of relationships, whatever those goals are. dont let time and opportunities pass you by. unfortunately too many people today bury their heads in the sand and refuse to face reality
+1 yYes.
Take a look at this picture.
[I can't link to photos - so search for Hillary Fisher on google images]
Look at that girl. Hot, right?
She's a 10.
You know what else, though?
One day, she is going to hit the wall.
One day, she will be so haggard and ugly that you wouldn't even look at her if she stepped in the same elevator as you.
One day, she will be so wrinkled and mangy that the thought of fucking her will give you a derection.
One day, no man who is not the father of her child or related to her will give a shit about her.
One day, nobody will rack their brain for something to say to her. Nobody's heart will start racing at the mere sight of her.
One day, nobody will want to look at a picture of her.
One day, if she would dress in that same lingerie and show you that exact same pose, your reaction would be pure disgust.
The wall is cruel in that it robs beauty from the world. The wall is also necessary in that it helps force a woman to be modest or accept foul consequences.
No matter how much money or great sex your looks get you while you are 20, it won't make people give a shit about you when you are 50.
The happiest women are the ones who used the bait of youthful beauty to settle down with a good husband who wanted a family. At 55 do you want kids and grandkids and stability or a match. com account?
Know that you are a depreciating asset to men in general. As your value to all men decreases, you must build your value to one well-chosen man by proving trustworthy over and over, being a source of feminine support, and being a producer and care-giver to his genetic spawn.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yDepends what you want from a woman.
If you want to have children/start a family, you really need to be chasing women who're under 32. A year or two to find out if she's a woman you could spend the rest of your life with, and a year or two to knock out a kid before she hits 35. After 35, eggs/fertility declines, etc.
If you've already got kids / don't want 'em, you can chase women of any age. Looks do tend to go down with older women. Some are in great condition, but that's rarer than you might hope for (ie: don't look to the celebs for a reasonable sample).
In addition, guys are wired to be after nubile females - even if they don't want kids. So most men tend to find the youthfulness attractive. Plus culture reinforces this, with a vengeance.
Given current social media, dating sites - it's going to be super-tough for women in the future. You've all given up your birthdays, and ages everywhere.24 Reply
Opinion Owner+1 yLet me reiterate:
Age: Doesn't matter for worthlessness. (in fact, older has slight edge in being able to remedy this deficit)
Ugly: Youth and beauty are (mostly) fleeting. You can do things to preserve your looks (ie: don't do sun damage, fight gravity, keep in-shape, etc). If you don't do those things religiously, and don't have forgiving genes, well... you'll get what you've been asking for. You can do all the right things, and still fail. But older is not ugly. But, for random sample; true.
Fool: Depends on what a guy wants out of a woman. For a first marriage? Yeah, most likely dude is a fool, or is out of the norm. ie: for most men, this is a true statement, if for first marriage.
Desire: Can work at all ages. But doesn't mean you should marry her. I know GILFs. Doesn't mean I'd marry them (I want kids).
Yeah, I didn't do things correctly, and get some broad knocked up when I was younger. I really, really want kids (of my own)... and now I have to chase younger women :\
Opinion Owner+1 yIf I didn't, I wouldn't care what age a woman is (like I said, I know some GILFs). Nor (too much) what she looks like. You want someone who you enjoy spending time with. The 'too much' is, does she get me erect? And, am I satisfied enough with the sex that I'm not tempted to cheat? Hey, i'm a guy, sometimes fabric rubbing me the wrong way gets me erect ;) So, not *too* picky on the looks.
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+1 yI think the view that women are depreciating assets is extremely dehumanizing. I don't see women that way at all. Besides, there's nothing unattractive about older women if she has taken good care of herself and she's in good health. Sandra Bullock, for example. She's 50 and she's still just as gorgeous as ever.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yYes, women often age like milk. Even the ones who age well tend to have a lot of mileage on them by then. A new car will always be worth more than a used car. A man in his prime would be crazy to go for a girl 10 years past hers. That's why it's important for women to take this whole marriage thing seriously if they want any good companionship when they get older. 10 years from now I can still date 18 year olds. You ladies will have a much harder time just getting someone your own age. In a way it makes up for a man's younger years when he's constantly rejected by his female peers. Karma is a bitch.
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Bc they're the only ones that constantly play games until they're a few years into their 30's. By then, men can still get a woman young enough to have a family with. That's the reality of "karma's a bitch"
Opinion Owner+1 yThose women are the exception, not the rule. Those women are venerated and adored by good men. I'm not talking about those women. I'm talking about the ratchet females who passed up all the good guys for assholes knowing they were assholes and now whine on PlentyofFish that they need a real man to take care of their kids.
Also, you can't really argue that men retain value longer into life. It isn't all about looks either. A man is also valued for his intelligence, his ability to provide, his strength, his leadership, his wisdom, all these qualities improve with age in men. Women are mostly valued for reproductive value, beauty, and companionship. So when they make horrible companions due to being so rebellious, and their looks fade, and it becomes more hazardous for them to reproduce because they're older, it is naturally harder for them to find a mate than it would be for a man of the same age.
Opinion Owner+1 yI would rever the woman you're talking about as a Saint, actually. Like I said, I'm talking about the ones who let guys pull trains on them and shit or had serial relationships and slept with a lot of different dudes.
2.4K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. It depends on what the guy is looking for in a woman. If it's strongly based on looks, then a woman past age 25, maybe earlier, will not have the same perceived value as a woman between 18-22. So, in a crude manner of speaking, yes, in some guys minds women depreciate after their mid-20s.
If a guy is looking for far more than looks and looks don't factor too much, then no, women don't depreciate.11 Reply
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yWell, marriage in general is a bad idea for men, whether the girl is young or old. Men should think twice before putting at risk everything they've worked for just to get married to a woman who could take it all away after divorce. MGTOW is the only answer
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I've heard men say this before. The problem is, without marriage, how does someone know if their partner will be their life companion? It is harder to date as you get older, & if someone were to leave you, at say age 45, it could make it really hard for you to find someone else.
Yes, although it's really true of any fixed fat reserve in living tissue; gravity will affect it.
Since we can say the physical value of a woman lies mostly in her breast tissue and buttocks, and then consider them values, they clearly depreciate with age.01 Reply- +1 y
its true that sag will happen faster with fat, but you do get less face wrinkles. :D
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yThe one's that depreciate are generally always burdens. They just lose their looks over time. Some women are cool though... With the right one I suppose you can grow closer together over time and they'd become more valuable as the years pass. I can't honestly claim I've found one yet, but it seems possible... maybe? :S
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I think they're are definitely good people out there. Many times the bad people are so loud & in your face, you don't see or hear the good people. It's like when I was in high school, some boys in my grade bullied me. But what I realized is that the other 90% of men in my grade didn't bother anyone & seemed like nice people.
Opinion Owner+1 yAh I'm pretty observant and I've been through a lot of women... It doesn't look good for you gender from observation/data, but for some reason I ignore the facts, because if I'm like me then someone else must be. I'm a rare commodity though. :p
+1 yWomen are at their best at about 40. Some are just as good at 50, and I've seen some who are still pretty hot at 60 (but it's rare).
One thing's for sure. If a woman loses her sex drive, she'll become undesirable faster than you can blink.01 Reply
+1 yIf they are smart and confident, they sure better not. Those views are from young immature and very shallow BOYS. They are not yet Men, not will they be anytime soon. A real man does not harbor thoughts like what you described.
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This man only tells you what you want to hear.
+1 yThose people are sexist because everybody gets uglier after about age 35 lol.
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No problem :)
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being 36 that's the most flattering thing i've heard all day, lol :)
356 opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. Wow, you know business terminology quite well. I think there are hot 60 year old women and not so hot 20 year old women.
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+1 yUgh. Men get worse too. Beer bellies, less muscle mass, slight decreases in height, bald spots or complete hair loss, etc... ew.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yIts the way their actions are portrayed that makes them less desireable to men, who wants overly sexed miley cyrus wanna bes that have been with dozens of hookups just because, its filthy and that is why
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I am actually abstinent. I don't judge other people for what they do, but I really only want to share myself with one person. But it makes me weary to give myself to someone if they will only consider me worthless or ugly once I reach a certain age. We are told as women that looks are the most important thing to men. So it makes that a woman would want to be attractive to her husband. But no one can stay young forever.
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To the abstinent asker, you're doing a smart thing, saving your specialness for that 1 person. Yes, you will age over time. We men do, too. If it would make you feel better trying to continue to look younger than your age, go for it. There are lots of cosmetics these days, and fitness options. But do know that not all men past their prime are looking for a super hot 21-year-old body to play with. Men with some maturity can see that young hotties can be nothing but nightmares, so these men are looking for other things first: someone with a sweet personality, sense of humor, able to enjoy life, honesty, respectful and honoring of her partner, etc. Men like this will still be able to see you as beautiful no matter how old you are. Try to find someone with this type of perspective.
That's not true. Cheryl Ladd is doing great with herself and she's like 60
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 ysuch men exist... women should stay away from men like that...
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Opinion Owner+1 yI agree... :)
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yyup, most start off with nice good looking bodies and then turn into fat slobs
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Opinion Owner+1 yMy comment came off as rude but also men start off handsome and turn into fat hairy lards as well... depreciating assets no as we're not actual products but I don't know do we even have any value to begin with?
I don't believe it.
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