They just try to "fit-in" too much with society... you will find that what they say isn't actually what they feel deep down they just say that to impress all the "popular" people... it's sad really, i don't really like labels ether... i'm into star trek and people know i'm intellegent but intellegence is frowned upon in society because of all kinds of stupid political reasons... socializing is pretty much political these days... which doesn't make it fun whatsoever... people try to even sell themselves to make friends... they are just too scared of being alone so they try hard to "fit-in" with the crowed so... they call you "freak" and "creepy", i've been called "weird", "creepy", "fat", "crazy bitch", "cow" because i stopped helping people... I too only got people talking to me when they just wanted something so i stopped helping and well... they didn't like it lol, i wouldn't worry about it... because they have an IQ of a pile of slime... lol while you are here on this earth for bigger and better things/
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Asker+1 yYeah I get what you are saying. I wear glasses all the time and dress plain and when I am trying to be social to women around my age or younger most of the time I can tell they are annoyed. I was not even being boring at all. I talk about the same things other guys talk about. I am 23 by the way and in college. This has been happening to me years in college and also in High School, Junior High, and elementary. Just recently a girl who I was trying to be social with before (it didn't turn out well) told someone else how I am really a quiet guy. I just decided to try to be social at my college with women. Most women regardless how they look like are like this way with straight guys that wear glasses and dress plain. Only some females were ok with me being social with them. It is sad. Most immigrant women around my age and younger and American born or raised women in their mid to late twenties and older are different though.
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Yeh... i'm 24 and people my age are STILL extremely immature... it's been the same for me all my life, even at 5 years old i was still ahead of my age group, i only had 1 friend at the time while the other kids got taught by their parents that they should hang with the "popular" kids with all the fancy game boys and stuff lol... i'm a total plane jane myself, i hate make-up, straighting my hair or styling it much, i hate dresses, my hair looks awful when it's long so i don't keep it long and i can't be bothered spending 2 hours every day getting ready... lol, even other girls look at me like i'm some "freak" but i'm not too bothered about it... if they want to act that way then i don't stop them lol only time they come up to me is when they make fun or me, if i get guys coming up to me it's total perverts thinking i'm like other girls these days (when i'm clearly not). I love intellegent and nerdy guys :) i would actually rather have a guy with a brain than no brain at all.
Asker+1 yI am sorry you have to deal with that nonsense. I'm glad you are happy the way you are and I'm glad you are different from most other people around our age.
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Aww well someone has to be different or everything would be boring lol remember we can do so much more than most people, while they have a dead end job in a supermarket we are really creative and smart so it doesn't matter what we look like, you will probably find girls like me sitting on their own every where lol even at the train station or going on their own to a concert because people avoid us so people won't think we know them lol so look for girls that sit alone a lot you will probably have lots in common.
Asker+1 yOk I will do that. To be honest I am not that smart but people assume I am because of the way I look. I have nothing against smart people though. Also, many smart women are really nice. I will still approach them.
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Id definitely say your a lot smarter than other guys that's for sure because while most guys only try to use nice girls for sex and assume just because ww are nice that are a guilible... you would rather get to know them, while the other guys complain every girl is evil lol that's only because they even care too much what their guy friends think but what do they know? they go with their crotch instead of their brain and it's definitely so boring.
Asker+1 yThat is very nice of you say. Thank you. Look at how some girls on here are saying that this happens because many nerds are socially awkward. That is an excuse because I have seen many nerds that were not socially awkward that I have seen this happen to. And I heard many chicks talk smack about them behind their back.
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Yeh... there are too many preconcieved notions about everything these days... even me i'm not so much of a "nerd" i can be cool too just other people think that because i don't fancy up and put on make-up that it some how means i don't look after myself... my parents believe the same thing... but a person doesn't need make-up and stuff to look after themselves... they don't really know what they are saying... they just pretend they do.
Asker+1 yYeah I agree. These girls on here just don't want to admit the truth. And you should tell your parents to let you do whatever you want.
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They are going through a giant hormonal phase just like guys do... people go through it well within their 20s lol i guess i more or less skipped that phase (except for the teen anger haha), although i was late experiencing the anger issues until i was 17 haha so i get stroppy sometimes ^_^, most people are do driven by their homrones though so they just got to get it out of their system for a while.
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I'm a nerd. My guy friends are definitely nerds. One guy friend I had used to do the funky chicken dance in class. As far as I know, nobody disliked him.
But there ARE nerds who definitely are creeps. Like this one time I stepped into a comic shop. There was a guy at the aisle where they kept my favourites, and he seemed scared when I stepped up; acting all shifty, squirming away and looking down. Yet he kept throwing glances at my boobs. Then when I leaned closer to grab the issue I wanted (I wasn't touching him), he just beat it. How was that for awkward?
And let's not forget those times I got ejected from online conversations and forums once they realised I was a girl. And the nerd who foamed about how real girls are all fat, ugly bitches, unlike 2D ones. And the guy acquaintance I have, who owns a dakimakura.
Sure, most nerds aren't creeps. But do nerdy creeps exist? Absolutely.18 Reply
Asker+1 yMany women in their teens and early twenties call nerdy guys creeps even though they are not creeps. When a nerdy is quiet they call him a creep just for that. If a nerdy looking guy is social and even though he is not being awkward when doing it and even though he is talking about things most other guys talk about they still call him a creep since he decided to be social with them. Most non nerdy looking female teens and women in their early twenties don't like it when nerdy looking or guys that are actual nerds socialize with them even though they are talking about something interesting. I heard many non nerdy looking women say things like''I am tired of this nerdy looking guy talking to me''I dress plain and wear glasses all the time but I am not a nerd. Most non nerdy looking women have done this to me and many other social non awkward nerdy looking guys I know as well.
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I'm not sure you could call me nerdy-LOOKing, lol. When I bother dressing up anyway.
Point is, there will always be people judging you by your appearance. I've met girls and guys who treat me like dirt or invisible woman too. Hells, I've been turned away from a shop once, simply 'cos I wasn't fashionable enough to be in there. Never mind that I had the cash to burn.
But do you really want to spend your life setting stock by how these people treat you? Sure, it's irritating as fuck, but there are better people out there to get worked up about. Quality, dude. Not quantity.
Asker+1 yYou are right dude but the women around our age that are not way are like 7%. I'm 23 by the way. Most women stop being that way in their mid to late twenties.
Asker+1 yTrue and there aren't many women in their mid to late twenties at my college. Where can I find nerdy women around my age. I'm 23? And most nerdy women be ok with me having convos with them even though I am not a nerd? I am a nice guy.
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Wait, how can there be no nerdy women? Us nerds are everywhere, even the female half of the species.
Maybe the reason you can't find us is because you expect us to look/ behave a certain way. Of the 8 women with nerdy interests in my circle, only 2 (loosely) fit the quiet, shy archetype, and one of them turns snarky once you get to know her. The rest consist of tomboys, quirky intellectuals, crossdressers, asexuals, one busty babe, one clubber-fashionista (also a babe) and one goth. We socialise/date, go wild, sass, swear and harbor kinks like the rest of the human race too.
Hmm, nice guy as in? There are genuine nice guys. Then there are doormats, whom nobody likes, and the 'nice guys', who get frustrated if you don't date/ bed them as a reward for their niceness. I'm sure you're actually a good-hearted fellow, but it might not be wise to call yourself that. It's a loaded term.
Asker+1 yI am actually a good person. I can be friends with a woman without having an intention to date her or have sex with her. Also, are most nerdy women ok with being friends with guys that are not nerds but are good people?
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Umm... I don't know? I would generally think so, since quite a number of us have been at the butt end of judgement and wouldn't want to foist it on others. But I can't really be sure. Some nerds (both male and female) are so wired into the impossible sex gods and goddesses of games and comic books that they literally want to deal with nothing else.
We're just as varied as any other subgroup in personalities and attitudes, really. The only thing I can say for sure is that if you're literate in whatever we're interested in, you'll instantly get our attention.
+1 yI'm in high school but i definitely saw that... some people won't even sit with them because ''they are so creepily quiet'' as if being around them will humiliate them -_- I think these people are very judgemental... I think its because they think nerdy guys don't have any interesting thing to say... also if they are quiet when you talk it gets kinda awkward as if they are uncomfortable and so i think it becomes kinda odd... i have nothing against nerdy people nor am i judging anyone :)
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Asker+1 yTell me about it. I am glad you are different. Most females in elementary, Junior High, High School, and college/university are unfortunately mean. Not only have I noticed this happening to other guys but me too. I wear glasses and dress plain and can tell people assume I am a nerd. Whenever I try to have a friendly conversation in college with a female nearly all the time I can tell she is annoyed. I talk about the same things other guys talk about. Yet many of these females were ok with being social with other guys in the classroom. And don't think I was only talking to attractive women. Most females regardless how they looked like were this way to me. Only some were ok with me being social with them. It is rare though when a woman is ok with it. Those females that were annoyed at me didn't say anything mean to me but I can tell they were annoyed with me.
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As I said... judgemental! They won't care how friendly you are or whatever, they know everything about you by THE WAY YOU DRESS! -_- I think looks don't matter, a person can the coolest regardless how the way they look... people who judge without knowing are truly immature
Asker+1 yYeah definitely judgemental. I am glad you admit it. Many other people on here are making a bunch of excuses and don't want to admit it. Most women in their mid to late twenties treat nerdy looking guys differently. Very few women around my age and younger are this way. I am 23 and still in college. You are one of the few women around our age and younger that are this way.
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Some woman treat these guys differently also for the sole reason that they are quiet... i know nerdy guys and they are very shy... i guess people assume that they are antisocial just because they don't talk much but will go chasing them around when they need help. Also "non nerdy" GUYS don't wanna be seen around with them... how very pathetic!
Asker+1 yTrue but even when nerdy looking guys are social most women around our age and younger don't want to talk to them because they don't want to be seen talking to them.
i dnt... i think nerds are cute... most of em anyway... im not a nerd but i've dated1... not bad... i think sumtimes its cuz they dnt kno what da hell they're tlkn about... n dnt wanna appear stupid... like me sumtimes... like my vocab. is AWFUL... n wen other people use it im like umm speak English please? but thts just me
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Asker+1 yThere are many chicks in their teens and early twenties that call nerdy looking guys creeps just for the sole reason if they are quiet but if these guys decide to be social and even though they are talking about something interesting they still them creepy for the fact that these guys decided to be social to them and these guys were not even socially awkward. I have seen it happen to many social nerdy looking guys and it happened to me a lot. Women have talked bad about me behind their back as well saying things like''I am tired of this nerdy looking guy talking to me'' They also talked bad about the other nerdy looking guys as well. Only some are nice when we are social, even if we are talking about something interesting like I said before.
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+1 yAs an actual nerd, I've experienced this behavior towards me all my life. Everyone always told me I needed to make friends and stop giving a crap about school. People would think me just sitting at a table with a group listening and not saying a word was creepy, when really I was just happy to be included and thought everyone else had something more interesting to say. People would ask if I was sad of pissed off. People would try to force me to talk and be sociable when I really didn't want to. I'm nervous being around new people and everyone considered that weird.
This thing is part of the reason I dislike being around others. They all want me to be like them and live how they think is right. I'd rather just be by myself. No one to judge me, no one to say something to.
Now in college it's the same thing again, except now I'm surrounding by other nerds in engineering majors who feel the same way. We can relate to each other and understand each other without being judged. It's quite nice.21 Reply
+1 yPartly the women change, but I think you need to realize that the 'nerdy guys' often change too. They don't naturally have great social skills, but they are slowly improving as they get older and more experienced. And they tend to be anxious and low self confidence (outside of their brain) but as they leave school and get decent jobs, they start feeling more confident in -general-. Plus they tend to not be popular in school which makes them feel low status, but you graduate work in some company with other techy guys, make friends, never get bullied, buy a nice car, you're feeling better about yourself - and that comes through in how they interact with girls.
Creepy can be code for 'I'm not attracted to you hence your attraction to me is off putting'
Creepy can also mean 'you seem anxious and that makes me nervous why are you anxious are you planning to put me in a hole in the ground screaming 'it puts the lotion on its skin!'?34 Reply
Asker+1 yI have known guys who were nerds or weren't nerds but just looked and dressed like them that had great social skills but decided to stop talking to a lot of females because many females didn't want to be social with a straight guy that wears glasses and dresses plain.
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Not saying this is the case but
... Dressing like you're 40 is more appealing to women when you're 40 than when you're 16.
Asker+1 yDressing plain does not equal dressing like you are 40. I dress plain but I don't dress like 40 year old guys. I am 23 by the way. I wear glasses and dress plain (not all the time but most of the time). I look like a nerd but I am not a nerd. I'm in college. Most American born or raised women in their mid to late twenties and older are different though. Most foreign women of all ages are different as well. Also, please don't assume it is because they want a green card. There are many foreign women that are loaded and are residents in this country that are really nice.
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Silence of the Lambs reference?
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+1 yI think that some people associate quiet nerds and social awkwardness with mental issues and I think it is unfair. If you actually talk to them some are easy to talk to once they feel comfortable, they just don;t always like approaching other for the fear of being judged or insulted.
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Asker+1 yYeah I agree with you but the thing is I have seen many nerds or guys that look like nerds that get judged by many women and they were social and talked about things other guys talked about. They said smack behind his back like,''I am tired of this nerdy looking guy talking to me'' And also other types just noticed how many women felt annoyed when these guys were being friendly.
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I'm a geek myself to some people I look like I am o others I don't but its different with girls. I defiently know a lot of us to be social in certain settings. I think at a certain age or level of maturity people need to stop thinking about what others think because in high school people obsess with how people will think of them for talking to or being seen with a certain person. It is sad that after high school people still have this mentality.
Asker+1 yYeah it is sad. Most people are still this way until like their mid 20s. Specifically American born or American raised people. For some reason it happens a lot more to male nerds or males that look like them. I am preety sure it has to do with people thinking guys look feminine with glasses. Women are always telling guys to lose their glasses if they want to impress women and that glasses on guys make them look feminine.
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I think glasses can be attractive on a guy I even think braces are really sexy lol
Asker+1 yYou are like 10% of the American female population that feel that way lol.
+1 yI'm with you! It's amazing the double standards sometimes women can get away with. They'll always bitch they can't find a nice guy, but they'll immediate label a quite, not perfect 10 guy a creep, even if that guy doesn't even know they exists. Typical.
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As typical as other insults guys get away with, like saying or implying a girl is a prostitute.
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I don't care what a girl is. If I like her I like her. :) Women label each other sluts and whores FAR more often than men do as well.
Asker+1 yAnd when that guy tries to have a friendly convo with them they get annoyed because they don't want to have a friendly convo with a straight guy that wears glasses and dresses plain. I am actually a social guy but just recently decided to be quiet around women because I was tired of all this. I was not even being boring. I was talking about the same things other guys talk about. These same women were ok with having friendly convos with other guys. Most of them only wanted to talk to me when the professor forced students to work with me. They have no problem talking to me since everyone had to do what the professor say. But it was different when it came to something that was not required. Like me being social with them.
Most girls that don't like talking to nerds is because the nerds are attracted to them and they are creepy about those emotions towards the girl. Girls feel that and in turn, think they are creepy. There's nothing wrong with being sexually attracted to a girl, but there is everything wrong with being creepy about it.
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+1 yI am friends with a nerdy guy. I don't see him as nerdy because he actually has a cool personality but he does have nerdy traits. but he is a good guy and I wouldn't say he's a creep
now I admit I probably wouldn't have talked to him if I didn't meet him from work, but I wouldn't be rude either. im sure im not his type of chick either lol... but there are some creepy nerds out there. I knew one who used to sexually harass all the girls until he eventually got fired from his job, but he was a nerd too.
we call guys creepy if the won't leave us alone. like if a guy comes up to you and starts talking and you want him to go away but he doesn't have the wherewithal to understand that his presence isn't welcome- then creep02 Reply
Asker+1 yUm there are many chicks that are in their teens and early twenties that call guys creeps just because the sole fact that they are quiet. And I have known many nerdy looking guys that were social and talked about interesting things and most non nerdy looking women talked bad about him behind his back talking about how they are tired of the nerdy looking guy talking to them. It happened to many social nerdy guys and social guys that look like nerds that I know and it happened to me too a lot. Only some non nerdy looking women are ok with friendly to us.
Asker+1 yYou know it is true what I said. They get called creeps even though they weren't awkward when being social or if they are quiet. Screwed either way.
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yI think some people (men and women) overestimate their social skills. I have a cousin with this problem. She just has no idea how to hold a conversation properly and no idea that she's annoying people. She thinks people don't like her because she's heavy, but really it's that she can't read normal social cues well and doesn't put together relevant statements very well to keep the conversation flowing. Or she talks about inappropriate topics. Or she thrusts herself into conversations she's not a part of. Super nice girl, but it's a bit like talking to a 10 year old and she's 20. As she gets older, she's been getting better, though.
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Asker+1 yUm , I noticed this happening to many people who don't have poor social skills and I heard people make comments about them looking nerdy and that are tired of this guy talking to them because he looks nerdy. Come on. Don't deny it. You know how most chicks in their early twenties and before that are with nerdy looking guys.
Opinion Owner+1 yI have to respectfully disagree. A lot of nerdy guys (and gals) I know do great in social situations and always did. And others just don't get it. They do ok in their insular groups, but struggle talking to "outsiders."
Not just nerds, either. Jocks, hunters, stoners, etc. It takes a bit of skill to engage people with different interests.
Opinion Owner+1 yFor every girl saying a guy is a nerd, there's another saying someone is a meathead, burnout, redneck, etc. Some of the girls saying it likely fall into the same trap and don't even realize it.
Opinion Owner+1 yYou KNOW if some dumbish girl talks to a group of snarky gamer guys about how she likes video games and then says she plays wii or something, a guy or two is going to talk shit about her behind her back. this phenomenon goes every which way.
Asker+1 yUm I said even if the nerdy looking guy did not talk about nerdy things and he talked about things most other guys talked about. Most women that are TEENS AND EARLY TWENTIES that are not nerdy looking don't like it when nerdy looking guys socialize with them. I have known many social nerdy looking guys that had women say things like''I am tired of this nerdy looking guy talking to me''It has happened to me too (I am not a nerd at all but I wear glasses and dress plain) and I am not socially awkward either and I talk about interesting things. Most women in their mid to late twenties and older that are not nerdy looking are ok with nerdy looking guys talking to them.
+1 yThey're socially awkward. I'm not saying it's right, I talk to everyone. I do find it extremely difficult to speak with "nerdy" people because they're socially awkward. It does become uncomfortable, and it's sad because I can tell that they yearn for conversation. So I talk to them, trying to hide my uneasiness.
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They usually break out of their shells though with enough conversation and inclusion of group activities. I wish more people were hands on, no one deserves to feel left out.
Asker+1 yUm I've seen it happen to so many nerdy looking guys that are not socially awkward at all and I heard many of the chicks talk smack about these guys behind their back. I am tired of this nerdy looking guy talking to me.
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I'm not speaking for the world, I'm speaking for myself. I personally don't put anyone down, I have a nephew that's autistic and a brother that is epileptic. But from my personal experience they are socially awkward, whether it's from the way they speak, demeanor, or even something as shallow as clothing.
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Plus you have to take into account peer pressure, not everyone can rise above it.
Asker+1 ySo you wouldn't want to talk to someone because of the way they dress? And well you may be different you haven't answered the question to why most women do this with guys just because the way they look? I have known many friendly nerds or nerdy looking guys that are not nerds and I have the way many chicks are with them. Yes most nerds are socially awkward but the many that I have seen that aren't, I have seen many chicks get annoyed at them when these guys talked to them. I heard them talk smack about them because of them wearing glasses and dressing plain.
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I talk to everyone. Women, young women I notice do it due to peer pressure. If their friends call the guy creepy, they'll call him creepy too, if their friends call the guy annoying, they'll call him annoying too.
I'm sure you're a smart guy, and you're just upset right now. But you can't really let these things get to you, part of the human psyche is to fit in because it's better for survival. What they are doing is going along to get along, because it's better for survival.
Asker+1 yIt's better for survival for people not wanting to talk to someone because of the way they look? You make no sense. And I'm not a nerd and I'm not socially awkward and I am not boring. I look and dress like a nerd but I am not one.
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Survival doesn't necessarily have to mean life and death, them talking to the "nerd" could possibly be social suicide. They want to survive and belong, they don't want to be outcasted.
You seem a bit too vexed which isn't allowing you to think critically. I wish you the best of luck though, it seems you only came to vent instead of actually getting opinions (unless they're saying what you want to hear). Next time get a diary.
Asker+1 yI am glad of your opinions actually. I think is so dumb how many women call guys that look nerdy or that are nerds creepy for being quiet but when they socialize they call them creeps for that. It is similar to many female teens and women in their early twenties calling below average looking guys creeps if they are quiet but if they talk to them they call them creepy for that. So much immaturity lol.
Asker+1 yCan you tell me if most young women don't want the nerds that are socially awkward to socialize with them since they are socially awkward then why when the nerdy looking guys are quiet they call them creepy? And if they socialize they call them creepy for socializing with them?
Asker+1 yCan you please answer? I respect your opinions
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+1 yIt's just another insult, like creep, perv, slut, slag , who, tard, idiot, wussy, N_____. etc.
They say nothing about the one who gets them, a whole lot about those using them.00 Reply - 1.1K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic.
+1 yi never call anyone creepy. i don't even think it in my head. i hear people around me say it. i don't like that comment.
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+1 yI don't understand that either.
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Asker+1 yHave you noticed it? People on here are making nonsense excuses about nerds being socially awkward but there are plenty of nerds that I have seen that were not socially awkward that this happened too. I heard many chicks talk smack about these guys behind their backs.
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It makes sense that some nerds would be kind of socially awkward, because the nerds are spending less or no time socializing/partying/clubbing/twerking and more time learning and studying about different things. More focused on their academics. I wouldn't think negatively of nerds.-they're smart people, some have became entrepreneurs, some have designed inventions, etc.
Asker+1 yYes, but do you agree with me that many chicks talk smack about them because of the way they look and even though if many nerds talk about something interesting and even though they are not being socially awkward most women in their early twenties and before that feel annoyed when these guys talk to them?
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I think most of us can be immature when we're younger, but I think most of us or at least I hope most of us become less immature the older we get. The women who in their early twenties who do feel annoyed with nerds who talk to them might be envious of them and/or feel intimidated by them or can't understand what the nerds are telling them since they have a different level of intelligence possibly. I don't think MOST chicks talk bad about nerds because of the way they look-but then again sometimes when I'm out, I'm mostly dwelling on my own thoughts not really that focused on what other people are doing.
Asker+1 yYou have it completely wrong. Most chicks in their early twenties and before that talk bad about these guys behind their back and feel annoyed when these guys talk to them even though if they are talking about something interesting. Actually most of the time it is simply because the guy is wearing glasses and dressed plain. It hardly has to do with''threatened by his level of intelligence''
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well then, I don't know. lol.
Those nerdy guys need to spend more time with nerdy girls rather than non-nerdy girls in that case.
Asker+1 yIt is annoying how most chicks in their early twenties and before that are cruel
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I agree. I'm only mean to others when I have to be-not just for the heck of it cause I have nothing else more productive to do. But those people who are mean to other people I'm slightly grateful for them because they remind me of the type of person I don't ever want to be.
Asker+1 yYeah. By the way it is funny when you mentioned twerking earlier lol
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lol thanks. I never understood why the twerking thing was even a thing in the first place. Just for people to have an excuse to show off their body. I just think it's absurd.
Asker+1 yHey I have no choice with women doing it. lol
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u think it's ever going to become a cool thing for guys to do? lol jk.
Asker+1 yI hope not lol.
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