Why do people hate and even feel disgusted by `leg hair` on females? Why aren't we disgusted of leg hair on males? (Page 2)
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Body hair is a symptom of testosterone. That's why.
Without testosterone, a female would not have a sex drive, and possibly even would be dead.
Yeah, they need some.
Therefore they will have leg hair.
Not necessarily. It depends on hormonal levels.
I still don't get it though. She's female either way.
you do realize that pretty much ALL women have leg hair, armpit hair, etc? It's just that there isn't as much
@been_waiting Some have more than others. Some don't have any really, though that's pretty uncommon.
uh huh... so no body hair is not a symptom of testosterone. I mean, kinda, in the sense that testosterone supports it, but it isn't a symptom of having too much testosterone.
So is a guy with no chest hair a woman?
@Body hair is a symptom of testosterone. That's why.
#1 everyone has testosterone. just like everyone has estrogen.
#2, estrogen controls hair growth in women.
you want her not just less of a man but less of a woman.
I am indifferent towards leg hair. Shaving is a pain, we are mammals, and it gets bloody cold up here. I don't require or expect people to shave.
Smoothness is attractive. If I were into men, I'd prefer that he had shaven body parts.
Hair obscures the defined surfaces of the body that are essential in making sexual characteristics look pronounced.
I would much prefer that society didn't make such a big deal of it but I do shave my legs. That said, I don't do it religiously and my boyfriend certainly doesn't let a bit of hairy leg put him off.
I didn't vote and I think bijinbijinbijin's answer is practically what my thoughts are exactly. No need to re-iterate what's already been said.
Body hair is gross. It absorbs sweat (urine), dirt, and grime. It's also a magnet for germs and bacteria.
So what do you do with your own?
I shave key spots. Shaving certain other spots such as legs would lead to direct harassment.
body hair comes from "male" hormones in our bodies... the less its there the more it attracts a guy because they find it more feminine
not all guys of course
@Mesonfielde - I have just lost some respect for you with this question.
Hair on a woman's legs is just not OK, for obvious reasons.
No, the reasons are not obvious, that's why I asked the question.
I'll rephrase - the reasons are obvious to normal people.
If it's that obvious, then you should state it, otherwise your answer is just noise.
Look, I know how you are. You're one of the "gender is a social construct" fruitcakes, and I'm not going to argue with a fruitcake. Carry on...
Well, I'd say "thanks for your opinion", but your opinion is useless to me.
Thank you. I have no interest in being useful to people like you.
It would be a bit more objectively beneficial if you understood my viewpoint for the sake of a better society, but alas, some people are just incapable of comprehending the problems with the current sociocultural worldview.
I have read more than enough of your writing here at GAG over the last couple of years to understood your viewpoint and I think your take on the current sociocultural worldview is well intended but fucked up. You strike me as a misguided pseudo-intellectual do-gooder.
Well, that's better than following the old system just because it's old.
why don't you just state your reasons, Anon? i'm genuinely curious as to why leg hair is so repulsive to you.
making ad hominem remarks about Mesonfielde while you remain anonymous seems a bit cheap.
I don't follow any system, but ignoring basic human nature and trying to change the rules of gender attraction is just stupid. They are coded in our DNA and you're not going to change them. You can try, but you look foolish doing it.
Oh yeah. Because people in the neolithic era TOTALLY had razors to shave their legs with. You just spewed a load of bullshit. Shaving isn't encoded in our DNA, but perhaps stupidity is encoded in yours.
You can argue all you want, harakiri, but leg hair is unfeminine. Sure it's "natural", but so are long toenails. Like most males I am attracted to femininity, not masculinity. Pretty simple.
People in the neolithic era didn't have toothbrushes either. Does that stop you from using one?
Pull your head out, harakiri.
"Femininity and masculinity" as behavioral traits or elements of personality; and the gender expectations you speak of are two independent things. Lack of hair was attributed to female appearance by culture, just like how "guys don't wear pink" and "guys don't wear skirts" and "girls don't have leg hair", same thing.
No. but teeth-cleaning is something that even animals do. It's been around for thousands of years and is necessary for hygiene and to maintain the ability to bite and chew. Shaving your legs doesn't improve hygiene in any way. if anything, exposing hair follicles to outside materials can result in skin issues. You should have just said unfeminine from the start instead of pretending like there's some biological credence to your opinion. I love anonymous self-proclaimed scholars. Y'all are the -best-.
And men preferring vaginas to penises is cultural too, right?
You two are hilarious.
That comparison is not valid, because both females and males have leg hair.
You can make your argument all day long but it will never change the fact that certain things are viewed as feminine and other are viewed as masculine, and they are viewed that way because of basic human nature. Those things will never change despite the best efforts of misguided fruitcakes.
""and they are viewed that way because of basic human nature.""
This is the false statement
I realize you would dearly love to believe it's false because it would better suit your needs (and I REALLY don't want to know what those are) but the condition we have today is a direct reflection of human nature. Things are different today than they were thousands of years ago for good reasons. Taking a step backward, as you're suggesting, it silly.
You're welcome to date hairy women if you want, or hairy men as the case may be, but you're not going to change attitudes among the vast majority of people about hairy women.
You can only fix problems if you increase awareness of the problem. Culture is not a direct representation of human nature by the way, it's a set of traditions that indicate that "someone at some point thought this was a good idea", and this concept of femininity you speak of is nothing but someone's arbitrary outdated fashion guideline.
The laws of sexual attraction are not something you can just decide to change. They are what they are because of thousands of years of evolution. You can try to reason it away all you want but most normal men will simply never be OK with two hairy legs wrapped around them in bed.
And that has NOTHING to do with culture. That's not to say that a man would never sleep with a hairy woman if she was his only option, but that's not going to happen because even most women know hairy legs are unattractive and unfeminine. They always have been, but in the past there was no choice. Today we do have a choice and it's insane not to exercise it.
I'm amazed how far down someone's rationalization of culture's nonsense goes.
I'm amazed at how someone can completely ignore reality when they want so desperately to believe something is true. Good luck with that bro.
You should read what Izzy2102 said to ASOIAF about a minute ago.
And honestly?
""I'm amazed at how someone can completely ignore reality when they want so desperately to believe something is true.""
I say the exact same thing to you, and I'll be the one right. Heheheh.
hair on womens legs is just NATURAL. thats the only obvious thing about it.
you want to talk about natural laws of attraction then you'd haste to say men who dont like body hair on women are pedophiles.
nature gave women old enough to bare children HAIR on their body. all of it. more or less than men doesn't matter. far as nature goes its there.
You can argue it makes no difference whether a person is male or females but the fact is it does because women are attracted to masculinity and men are attracted to femininity, and body hair is perceived as unfeminine and always will be.
Feel free to grow all the hair you want, wherever you want, but it won't change anything. This will NEVER be attractive...
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Well, she on that picture has thicker hair on her legs than I do, so eh. The key difference is that my hair on my legs is black. Of course, supporting your point with an extreme example...
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This is more typical.
The photo you linked is just as distasteful and as the one I linked. Your point?
Uh. If you think those two are the same, then you should get glasses or just pour some bleach in your eyes because you apparently don't need them. If I had hair like the girl YOU linked, even I would trim them.
So you admit that hair on a woman's legs can be distasteful, so for you it's a matter of how much. That begs the question... how much leg hair is acceptable to you? Why is some acceptable but more is not? Is that preference cultural? Why do you feel it's OK to say it fine to have some hair on a woman's legs, but not "too much"? My guess is that even you will see the problem here.
Maybe I'm just also partially indoctrinated with the cultural noise. Although to be honest, I don't even like my own leg hair, I'm just lazy to get rid of it. I don't really care what other people do with their legs.
It's not indoctrination, but you can use that an excuse if it makes you feel better.
Cheers "dude". I'm out.
I prefer naturally hairless legs on girls ;)
There's no such thing.
Or at least, not over a certain age...
There are such things, but they are quite rare.
I'd think that's more of a genetic disorder if anything.
its not a genetic disorder. my mum is naturally hairless on her legs, but her siblings are all hairy and so are all of my sisters and i. mum being naturally hairless has had no affect on her whatsoever.
i prefer naturally hairless legs on guys but ill settle for him shaving it off.
@Azara is there even such a thing? I have no chest hair and back hair; but my leg hair is extreme.
Then I think I like that "genetic disorder" ;)
So you like women with beards then huh?
That doesn't even make sense.