@Iron_Man had the right idea no one really likes that hate group much and plus only a selected amount of people now these days are buying their snake oil I think : )
I believe that women should be treated equally. My problem is when women exploit gender roles or stereo types in their favor. They shouldn't be able to cherry pick when they are treated equally and different.
It seem that many American guys dislike feminist coz they linked them to anti male. If it is gender equality, i don't see why people should dislike them
I agree. The "fanatics" aren't true feminist. They advocate women getting special treatment. However, some femenist may seem like their overstepping their boundaries when they push for things that could level the playing field between men and women that might seem like its giving women the advantage. Like all the rules they put on guys at my college to prevent so many women from getting raped. Do you consider that fanatical as well? I'm not trying to contradict you if it sounds like i am by the way i just really want to know whats considered over the top and what isn't
"The fanatics aren't true feminists" = No true Scotsman Fallacy.
"No True Scotsman is a logical fallacy by which an individual attempts to avoid being associated with an unpleasant act by asserting that no true member of the group they belong to would do such a thing."
Im not saying "no true feminist could possibly be so blind" lol. Im saying, if a person were to accept a belief, such as a cristian accepting religion, they would know the difference between somebody who actually cared for the subject and those who simply want to pretend.
Does it matter though? The entire religion will still be shaped from all participants. Just look at muslims. While by no means all muslims are radicals, there are more than enough who are and even more who don't speak up.
The same criticism is towards feminism. By excusing yourself out of the responsibility of claiming "those aren't true feminists", you give them free reigh and let them undergo the movement and corrupting it (which already happened quite a while ago).
i don't hate them, but i don't fully identify with them either. It really depends on how radical they are... but if you ask any feminists, they will claim to be one of the good ones so..
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I'm all for equal rights, but that's not what today's feminism is about anymore, no matter how loud you cry that it is.
Besides, I really don't need for it to be shoved into my face all the time, it's getting old.
I agree getting opinions shoved in your face does suck. But I think the way the word "feminist" is percieved is becoming something its not. Maybe the big groups of protesting so-called-feminist who hate men are overshadowing us femenist who actually love men and want to work with them, not against them but not behind them either. They might be pushing people away instead of trying to work together. Thanks your comment really helped me see what the problem is.
not feminists as you described them. but some are what we call feminazis. i have met women who suggested that all men should provide a semen sample and be fully castrated after that when they are 13, and to not comply would be punishable by death. it is not that we hate feminists, but we do hate misandry and the belief that all men are evil or rapists, or that women are so far superior to men that there is little to justify our existence.
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They do actually. They only seek equality where it benifits women and ignore it when it benifits men. It is amazing people still try to legitimize feminism, when most people recognize it for what it is.
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Many girls hate feminism too. womenagainstfeminism. tumblr. com
There are many issues about men that feminists never tend to touch on. Hard to take one seriously when they claim they're about 'equality.'
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I dont hate them, they are just really stupid sometimes. Woman and men differs a lot. Like men make shitty nurses woman makes shitty soldiers. Its just how biology is.
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No, I don't trust them. They say one thing and do another. They are fanatics and lunatics.
Lol. I'm a feminist and I dont think like that, or at least I try not to. I try to make a consious effort not take some kind of privelage in being female. I know the feminist who, like, go crazy on men because they dont have to experience periods can be annoying. I know! I also know that men go through problems that women can't even understand. But as a REAL feminist, I want to learn to understand.
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The serious feminists I have read and met so far see the world as women vs. men, a zero sum game.
I'm never going to respect that.
@Iron_Man had the right idea no one really likes that hate group much and plus only a selected amount of people now these days are buying their snake oil I think : )
Thank you
I'm a feminist myself, the feminists that most men hate are the radical ones that don't like men and want them to burn in hell.
I believe that women should be treated equally. My problem is when women exploit gender roles or stereo types in their favor. They shouldn't be able to cherry pick when they are treated equally and different.
I think this girl kind of sums it up nicely
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a10659-unmasking-feminism
So yes, we hate feminists.
I'm not a feminist, though I do know some guys are anti
It seem that many American guys dislike feminist coz they linked them to anti male.
If it is gender equality, i don't see why people should dislike them
Hey, I'm all for equality, but the term "feminist" has developed a negative connotation of "man hater".
Yes, I hate feminists. They have ruined everything that was once good.
Feminists should be put in jail, deported, or killed. We should just send them to Australia, they wouldn't even notice.
No, just the fanatic feminists are a pain in the ass. The true feminism fights for a good cause.
I agree. The "fanatics" aren't true feminist. They advocate women getting special treatment. However, some femenist may seem like their overstepping their boundaries when they push for things that could level the playing field between men and women that might seem like its giving women the advantage. Like all the rules they put on guys at my college to prevent so many women from getting raped. Do you consider that fanatical as well? I'm not trying to contradict you if it sounds like i am by the way i just really want to know whats considered over the top and what isn't
What are those rules? I think that they are fanatic if they consider all men as potential rapists, which is not true.
"The fanatics aren't true feminists" = No true Scotsman Fallacy.
"No True Scotsman is a logical fallacy by which an individual attempts to avoid being associated with an unpleasant act by asserting that no true member of the group they belong to would do such a thing."
Additionally you want to look here: https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/no-true-scotsman
Im not saying "no true feminist could possibly be so blind" lol. Im saying, if a person were to accept a belief, such as a cristian accepting religion, they would know the difference between somebody who actually cared for the subject and those who simply want to pretend.
Does it matter though? The entire religion will still be shaped from all participants. Just look at muslims. While by no means all muslims are radicals, there are more than enough who are and even more who don't speak up.
The same criticism is towards feminism. By excusing yourself out of the responsibility of claiming "those aren't true feminists", you give them free reigh and let them undergo the movement and corrupting it (which already happened quite a while ago).
Men are tired of being emasculated.
i don't hate them, but i don't fully identify with them either. It really depends on how radical they are... but if you ask any feminists, they will claim to be one of the good ones so..
I'm all for equal rights, but that's not what today's feminism is about anymore, no matter how loud you cry that it is.
Besides, I really don't need for it to be shoved into my face all the time, it's getting old.
I agree getting opinions shoved in your face does suck. But I think the way the word "feminist" is percieved is becoming something its not. Maybe the big groups of protesting so-called-feminist who hate men are overshadowing us femenist who actually love men and want to work with them, not against them but not behind them either. They might be pushing people away instead of trying to work together. Thanks your comment really helped me see what the problem is.
not feminists as you described them. but some are what we call feminazis. i have met women who suggested that all men should provide a semen sample and be fully castrated after that when they are 13, and to not comply would be punishable by death. it is not that we hate feminists, but we do hate misandry and the belief that all men are evil or rapists, or that women are so far superior to men that there is little to justify our existence.
They do actually. They only seek equality where it benifits women and ignore it when it benifits men. It is amazing people still try to legitimize feminism, when most people recognize it for what it is.
Many girls hate feminism too.
womenagainstfeminism. tumblr. com
I am one of them
There are many issues about men that feminists never tend to touch on. Hard to take one seriously when they claim they're about 'equality.'
I dont hate them, they are just really stupid sometimes. Woman and men differs a lot. Like men make shitty nurses woman makes shitty soldiers. Its just how biology is.
No, I don't trust them. They say one thing and do another. They are fanatics and lunatics.
Lol. I'm a feminist and I dont think like that, or at least I try not to. I try to make a consious effort not take some kind of privelage in being female. I know the feminist who, like, go crazy on men because they dont have to experience periods can be annoying. I know! I also know that men go through problems that women can't even understand. But as a REAL feminist, I want to learn to understand.
that isn't a feminist, a feminist wants women to rule men. and no I don't like them