True, we dont know shit about how to start a conversation. But when i ask a friend who always has girls what he says he showed me his secret. Either on badoo tinder facebook doesn't matter where, find 30 girls just say straight up looking good, whats ur number? And boom, done you can have sex. I'll pass on that thanks, after finding out that little secret to STD's i will never touch tinder again, i will take not having sex ever again for the rest of my life over some slut who can't respond to a simple hello but immediatly gives her number when asked for. ;)
Oh, my good grief. You are from heaven.
Why do we need words anyways? The most intense first encounters I have ever had with women were initiate by looking at each other and just making facial expressions. I once met a girl and we wound up together and we never said a word to each other for the at least first half hour. If the magnetism is there, the two of you could be mutes or speak different languages. It doesn't matter.
Which guys are you talking to? Cause not every guy talks the same way and shouldn't be grouped like that. Same thing could be said about certain girls too, so its more of the type of person rather than gender.
I get a lot of how are you doing and things like that but that is from all people, all genders ya know it is a people conversation starter. Small talk if you will. So I mean if that is kind of what you are taking about, it kind of is every one. Plus you get what you give as well.
How would it start wrong? If you don't mind me asking. And that might be the issue some people start small. Something to get the conversation started , then it either blossoms or not. Like a hey, thats just kind of like hey, are you online, do you want to talk, etc. To have a good conversation you need to put as much effort as the other person. The conversation can be still come effortless and flow nicely but only if you let it. Like I always reply to people what ever they may write as a starter and after that and we get comfortable talking it gets great.
Okay. I get the why you would ignore the whole pick up line and starting off with how was your day if that was the first time talking to them and if they are just doing it to pick you up and stuff then yeah. Ignore those. Lol. I had one of those tonight and boy was that a fun conversation. Sarcasm heavily implied on that. Lol. But sometimes you do have to wait a bit for the conversation to pick up.
Then let those be loses and hope for the next guy to be better. Lol. Good way to tell if the conversation is gonna be good or not is a what time and reasoning for that time that they are messaging you.
I think you’re around crappy guys. There are soooo many guys out there who are great at starting convos.
Some do, some don’t. Approach guys you think look interesting. Shake it up.
See! Approaching is exciting AND new! 😉
Don’t bitch about men then if you’re being a judgy coward. Real talk, kid.
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I have a notice that many young men cannot spells either. In a other sections they spell a words all wrongly and when I tell them they get all angrily about hims. I can easily make the conversations and I can do the spellings too. Glad to be of assistances to your questionings.
Women don't want creative, they want cliché. In fact one engineer was trying to use a dating app and found that all of his custom responses where being rejected, so he pulled up a generic one from the internet and built a program to just send out preset statements to women. He got more women to respond that way then his specifically tailored responses. So yeah, women want cliché.
Or it could be you want a cliché but they didn't pick the right one. I mean no disrespect but their are certain key concepts women want to hear (I'm reminded of the joke "I'm not like other girls"-said every girl ever), now maybe they want a variation of it but generally speaking their is only a few things that will get women to actually respond to you. Also how you present yourself will also alter how the guy responds to you, he only has what he can see to go off of after all. So what lines or conversation starters did they give you?
How nice of you to come from your position of privilege and squawk about how you are not interested in guys who don't show interest first because you hate headaches. Playing the female shit test game is a headache.
Since males are expected to do the approaching and women will openly shame and attack males if they approach and the girl doesn't like him... men have discovered it's dangerous to approach women first because women are likely to cry sexual harassment.
So when you hear the same shit from the guys who do approach, it's likely because we have found out that its the safest way to show interest without getting publically called out for being a creep.
In the case of approaching you... I would say those who don't should consider themselves lucky.
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This is all very very true.
Hi bbz, what r u up to? R u single? Wanna skyp?
#ProConversation
o m g
me as well
Lots of people (not just guys) are lousy at making small talk with people they have just met. However, guys are expected to make the first move, so it is the guy that often has to start the conversation. I’ve given up countless opportunities to start a conversation with a woman to whom I’m attracted, for the sole reason that I can’t think of anything interesting to say at that moment.
Because guys are the only ones expected to start conversations
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Because there are only so many ways to start a conversation. Would you just start talk to me if I just splurged: hey what do you think about Steven Hawking's findings in the field of quantum mechanics?
A lot of it the expectation around the initial introduction. For nervous guys like myself the fear of poorly introducing yourselves tends to lead to a muddled. The more confident guys tend to think that past success will ensure that it will go well, and fall on previous successful methods. Then there are the guys in the middle, who see the successful guys and try and copy in the hope of the same success.
I think for a man that pretends he likes a woman it is shameless to have and use an excuse and the world support him also. That is weird. Because normally a relationship is between two lovers with no insiders involved or is that in our society no more possible and does anybody want to intrude in any form of relationships what is also a shameless thing to do or is our world just in one world shameless?
Because most women today don't read anything with more depth than cosmo or harry fucking potter and are often really difficult to talk to because theycare horribly borring so a guy is left not knowing wjere to start.
maybe but the thing is when someone starts a conversation in a repetitive way and i ask him about smthg deep like smthg they love hate or excites them his experiences as a human been dreams he freezes idc maybe bc it was surprising but its kind of annoying when u want to have a real conversation to feel the thrill but it rarely happens
If you are having this happen a lot you may be more intelligent than most, intelligent people struggle to have conversations with average people.
to AMEL2332: This would mean you need to seek someone with and high IQ. Would that work do you think?
If you don't find people on your level you won't be happy.
What interests you?
nature love birds night sky maths physics learning havung brain orgazms while connecting things animals and feeling them close connecting with tem camping trying new stuff and lifting weights i love food 2 i love the mountains the sea and flowers i said whatever i felt lol so everything is so messy
You are too fucked up for normal people.
Normal people get a job, get married, buy a house, wind up deeply in debt and have a couple of kids, get divorced and wind up miserable.
Fuuuuk that!
by the way the reason you probably have such a hard time is you have yet to connect with someone who is really intelligent and strong enough to help you keep it together.
i want a marriage and children tho there is nothing wrong with loving someone sooo much and wanting to be together forever and have kids of my own not all marriages end with divorce
and i love the stability of having one partner to trust think about it this way if u find someone who trust u and understand u can focus on what really excite u in life u can do new stuff all the time and put all ur mind in ur work and what matters instead of waisting ur energy all over the place on different pple who r not worth it most times i love focused energy on one person and i think life has a lot to offer but if u spend it with many wrong pple u won't see the good in nature food everything
You totally missed what I was getting at.
Everyone would love to find someone special.
What I mean is normal people just follow along and do what they are told.
Intelligent people who question things can lead a better life by not winding up trapped.
Don't try to be normal, don't try to fit in.
what i wanted to see dont put marriage in the line of things pple do to fit it can be great
most times im happy with who i am i feel stuff more than normal pple do i feel food love warmth everything and appeciate every single think i experience them just like the first time i get so active i solve stuff faster i connect things better i get so motivated and best my ass off harder i dont kiss noone ass i say what i want and i dont anything for noone to like me i dont focus on how pple see me and i honour myself im free and i would never do smthg i dont like to be liked but when i hit bottom i crush harder i just have to learn to control my lows
What part of the world are you from?
That makes things a lot more clear to me.
See in the United States they have passed so many stupid laws here that have made it where there is no benifit to a man to get married.
It actually means taking a risk, taking huge risks and possibly winding up in serious financial ruin.
I don't know the laws and culture for your part of the world so I cannot speak to how it works there.
In my own experience, guys are not very social in terms of conversation. My friends usually do physical activities, and when we talk, we're usually straight to the point, and we limit gossip.
There are also some people who find it hard to talk to those they're attracted to. I mean, what if they say the wrong thing? What if the person they like get's the wrong idea, or has no idea what you're talking about?
They might just be flustered or embarrased. They don't want to say the wrong thing, but they also know they have to say something. If they're not quick-thinkers, or don't have a lot of experience, they're going to have trouble trying to think of the "appropriate" thing to say.
To AMEL2332: I really agree on your point and it is a real problem.
it's really difficult for guys for being creative in such cases because it is one of the most things that makes us nervous , very few people master it and i think it's not only about confidence it includes sense of humor and your IQ
Creativity is often a suppressed emotion when men are thinking about sex. Guys think about sex a lot more than you can imagine, and though you can learn to control that, few ever do.
Why do have to be men starting it? If you are so good at it, give the first step. Easy!
If you are interested on him, then you should put aside that kind of thought and start a conversation yourself. You're not forcing anyone liking you, you are just seeing if it can work or not.
But there are a lot of girls that think that is a job for the men ans sometimes they regret...
Mainly because everything is a touchy subject these days. It's not really that tough to figure out.
Also when you pretend you like someone and want a relationship with?
Yeah, lots of people like to cycle through the factory responses even they do that.
*when
I have been told I'm very creative, & have a way with words.
we can start a conversation no bother for us two lol l am very creative in lots of ways and l know that you would like that in a guy like me lol life is ment to be fun xx
because we all went to the same pickup school. Sorrry :(
We have to be careful what we say these days or we could end up with a criminal record for sexual assault it's scary talking to women incase they start making alagations (I probably spelt that wrong sorry)
Trust me when I say that it's not just guys. It's girls too.
Girls are worse at it the girls that walked up to me started with some pretty stupid questions
Conversations require 2 people, perhaps you aren't as socially adept as you think you are.
How does a good conversation start to you?
So you would want me to walk up to you and cut straight to the point. Sometimes, many times, people don’t have a point at the start of a conversation. They just want to start talking and then see where things go. Out of curiosity, what is your zodiac sign?
Aquarius! Lol I was going to guess that you were an Aries.
You have a very bold and brash personality. You definitely seem strong willed.
I knew two Capricorn girls in college who were like that. Constantly flip-flopping between the life of the party and being cold. It got kinda strange after a while.
Fair enough. I know that the only issue I had with it was that they would frequently take the weird/unpleasantness out on me. I can handle goofy weird, what I can’t handle is getting verbally assaulted and shut out at random times.
Nervousness, overthinking it, or lack of social interaction.
Ahem. I can start conversations with girls. Well it’s easier on the internet though. Other than that I’m a bit nervous. But yeah online I’m good.
Than why don't you start it? Why does it have to be the man who makes the first move? Stop complaining if you're not going to do it yourself. 😂
why don't you start one then? most women I talk to are so boring I don't even have a desire to be creative. y'all think being hot is all you need lol
You said yourself we start with the samelinez
Because its a classic...
We are afraid to start with the wrong line so we just take the chance
With the classi lines
You try starting conversations with men and get back to us
If you want creative then maybe you should find yourself a poet. Seriously though
Funny - I always find this about women. All I ever get back are 1 word answers
Either that or I am just unlucky. It's something to consider either way :)
When someone is showing a little creativity, he's often considered fake or playing a role.. or being strange :/ lol
I'm usually the one that's starts the conversation, I would say that I don't suck because I pick a plethora of bizzare subjects to talk about
I don’t know. Why can’t women start them... don’t you guys want equality...
We do when we want to be regularly. People should do what makes them happy. Not others.
Your logic is flawed. Typical from a woman.
Are men clowns? Not his fault you have been talking with so many
So stop expecting
There is probably something about you annoying them, so what? It's like this becouse of people expect much form another
You dont know if you do, trust me...
Or just don't want to answer. For 90% of people talking is a game
I get the idea but can't picture it for myself lol. Never had issues talking with women
a lot of guys dont know what to say to not make things acward or to make the girl feel like he is trying to hard
Bet you the moment some idiot goes too creative you'll label him a creep anyways
An euphemism for "creepy"
After all, you know there's no way you gonna take him seriously, he's just a "socially inept creep".
Women should never complain about men sucking at starting conversations since most of them are too scared to approach which is why you all want us to do all the hard work.
why don't women start the conversations then if we suck at it ,
If you expect ME to make the first move just because I'm a man, then you better go make me a fucking sandwich later on!
I'm kidding. I'm allergic to wheat, so I can't have toast
Sandwich*
That was funnier in my head
I meant to write "sandwich" instead of "toast".
Sorry, did I piss you off?
Oh, well... that's good then
chips for me
It depends on men. Some men are very funny and good at holding a conversation, some not
Depends on the guy. Many guys over think though.
Really weird i hope you get someone who is creative
Because we're scared shitless and are 99% shure we would fuck it up
They are bored and looking for u to entertain them
I say how’s life instead of how’s your day 😄
This is one of the many reasons why I have no friends 😂
I’m just too nervous/shy most of the time
What do you like to talk about?
Why dont women start conversations more often?
Some guys are extremely shy and awkward.
because they are nervous as hell
I'm creative
Idc its 2018 blame women or be forever alone
Because you’re not worth the effort
What are they supposed to say?
Hay baby ;3
Because girls dont help much in the situation...
They all do
Hey girl
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