Does anyone else find most male feminists kinda creepy?

[Catholicgirl22]

I'm sure girls we've all had an encounter similar to this SNL bit where a Male feminist will come over to try and pick us up using feminist and anti-trump rhetoric and turn into butthurt pricks when rejected.

When ever a guy describes himself as a Male Feminist I always picture Hollywood creeps like Aziz Ansari, James Franco, Louis CK, Ben Affleck, Harvey Weinstein,

A. Yes i find Male Feminists creepy

B. No i dont find them creepy

C. Some are some aren't

Other

[hellionthesagereborn]

Well while they have not put out any statistics that I know of, their is a significant correlation between sexual harassment/rape from men who identify as feminist. personally I find feminism to be a horrific and sexist (among other things) ideology, any man who would claim to be a feminist is self hating and/or trying to lure a woman into a false sense of security so he can try to exploit her trust. But then any one who tries to tell you everything you want to hear is trying to exploit you so that alone should be a dead give away.

[InfoBot]

Yes, there is something nauseating about a guy saying that he is a feminist, no matter how noble his intentions may be. It's a bit like a guy being a tampon salesman. "How about those cramps eh ladies? Can I get a high five?" 😑🙄

[TheGreatShepherd]

I think it depends about the context where you bring it up, because I think all rational people believe that you shouldn't treat a certain gender worse then another...

[InfoBot]

@TheGreatShepherd Sure, that should be a given, you don't have to be a feminist to agree on that. Trying to crowbar yourself into a movement by wearing a badge that doesn't fit you seems both desperate and suspicious. You don't need to identify as a feminist to express support for any of the objectives of feminism.

[TheGreatShepherd]

Yeah your right, the only real feminist campaign that i've seen and i suppose supported it (but not acted on it not going to lie) Is the He For She where its about including men and working with them rather than straight up alienation and we dont need men

[Catholicgirl22]

@TheGreatShepherd until feminists start fighting for men's rights i can't support them. Also there's a large vocal majority of feminists who are very anti male or blame men for everything, the rest are silent and don't defend men when they extremists go after men.

[TheGreatShepherd]

It shouldn't change the definition of a ideology on how the loud minority act... Again I'm a Christian and most of the time Christians are in the news for bad things, this does not change the definition of what a Christian is

[Catholicgirl22]

@TheGreatShepherd it's not a loud minority but possibly a majority. It's why most women simply don't identify as feminists.
Christians are in the news for bad things sure but you can only associate those bad things when done in the name of Christianity in which case as Christians we must speak out or act against them.

[TheGreatShepherd]

The same with feminism, rational feminists do speak out against them... And its a couple of thousand radicals in America, it has no impact on the millions across the world

[Astoriana]

I've always thought that people who were really vocal about some particular issue are just doing whatever the thing is performatively. The Christians who can never have a conversation without mentioning God/Jesus - fakers. Men who go on and on about their Woke Points (TM) - fakers. Sports fans who memorize random trivia that has nothing to do with anything to make fun of people who don't know those things - fakers.

[Gianna17]

Sometimes, but to me a guy who doesn't support my rights seems a little more creepy. I used to be a huge anti-feminist but after dating a fellow anti-feminist guy and being sexually assaulted by him my feelings have changed significantly.

[Losalt]

Not being a feminist and not supporting your rights is two different things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WMuzhQXJoY

[Gianna17]

I never said it wasn't. Again, I used to be anti-feminist myself and although some anti-feminists make some valid points, there is a difference between not supporting feminism and being an anti feminist. I myself am still hesitant to call myself a feminist, however, I wouldn't go by the term "anti-feminist" anymore because it comes across as being against everything feminism stands for, and a lot of it is actually very good. Of course there are always misandrists and people who take it to an extreme, but most feminists I've met do things because they legitimately feel it's the right thing, and not just because they want to hurt men.

[MelaninDoll]

Male feminist are bitches and female feminists are bitches and all feminists are bitches. fucking cunts.

[Anonymous]

There was me thinking that people were progressing then I read all these replies. Fml do you people actually think that women deserve to be paid less, do you believe that young girls in oppressive states around he world don't deserve and education so they can be kept at home purely as some creepy old dudes baby making machine and have no life of her own? Like seriously wtf? You know the sex trafficking and modern slavery circles primarily involve kidnapping young women and girls and selling them to the highest bidder who is either going to make money off her underage body until it breaks her or just keep her locked in his basement to live out the rest of her life in pure misery until he gets bored and disposes of the evidence. This is violation of these females rights and if you think this is fucked up then surely you believe in feminism to some extent and if you don't think that it's fucked up then you're fucked yourself...

[Catholicgirl22]

Yeah that's exactly what Harvey Weinstein used to say.

[Opinion Owner]

Okay so as a woman you want to be paid less, see your sex be used as slaves and to be oppressed to the point where it's completely acceptable for a man to beat you to within an inch of your life because he feels like it? Do you not read at all? Women throughout history have fought against this for so long and now as soon as men start agreeing then it's suddenly a bad thing.

[Opinion Owner]

Just because there are a few examples of bad people who are also feminist doesn't mean all feminists act as they do. There are tonnes of good people out there who are feminists you're literally just picking out the few that are bad people. It's like saying that all Christians are bad people just because of the crusades that happened hundreds of years ago or that all Catholic priests are pedos just because most of them like touching little chior boys and bite off their foreskin in traditional practices (if you don't believe me look it up although obviously this is part of many relgions) that doesn't mean they are all pedos. And yes I am exaggerating a little because I don't like being compared to a sexual predator

[Catholicgirl22]

Now your just parroting creepy male feminists lol

[Opinion Owner]

And you can't come up with any actual argument because you know you're wrong

[Opinion Owner]

Okay so the whole premise of your argument is that male feminists are just creepy because they advertise that they are advocates of women's rights just to get laid. Therefore ones who don't advertise it and simply believe in the things that make you a feminist and literally don't use it try and get laid, like me explaining why feminism is important because there is no possibility of getting laid in this situation, it can't be possibly be creepy

[Catholicgirl22]

You speak an infinite deal of nothing.

[Opinion Owner]

Do you have to be so ignorant?

[Catholicgirl22]

"This is violation of these females rights and if you think this is fucked up then surely you believe in feminism to some extent and if you don't think that it's fucked up then you're fucked yourself..."

[Opinion Owner]

Well done you can quote...
What are you that Catholic that you're from some backwards town so disconnected that you don't even understand what I'm saying?
Do you have an issue with what I said in that sentence? Are you that dumb that you don't even want human rights?

[Catholicgirl22]

Do you have to be so ignorant?

[Opinion Owner]

Pathetic

[Catholicgirl22]

Exactly.

[Opinion Owner]

Okay so according to your logic it would also be creepy for a white person to support the rights of black people e. g BLM because they have also been an opposed group in society throughout history, in the same way a man could support feminism?

[Catholicgirl22]

A lot of white people i know who support black activists and BLM are often at the core racist. Like a friend of mine for some reason thinks voter I'D is racist because black people can't get voter I'D or that black people can't make it in soceity without the help of a white person. Male feminists seem to think having a vagina is a disability.

[Opinion Owner]

So you're saying that white men shouldn't support any minority or oppressed group and just ignore them instead of trying to take the power away from so many of us that abuse it?

[Catholicgirl22]

What group is oppressed in the western world?

[Opinion Owner]

Is that even a question

[Catholicgirl22]

Yes. Answer.

[MlleCake]

@Catholicgirl22, why don't you answer his questions first?

[madhatters4]

i don't really find male feminist creepy. i find more mgtow or other so called men's rights guys more creepy
i wonder how many people actually know male feminists or how many people know men that are feminists but don't know they are feminist

[Oasha]

Here's a definition of feminism by Merriam-Webster:
"the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes"

I'm sorry for wanting equality, I hope I don't creep you out too much...

But it's okay, I know SJWs don't get a lot of love.

[Celtero]

Feminists are bad enough... but male feminists? They're the same but they're only doing it so they can possibly look good to women and have sex with them.

It's the only logical reason for a man to be a feminist. There's many more better causes to be an advocate for.

[TheGreatShepherd]

I think it depends on what specific movements one would supports, and the context of bringing it up

[passinby]

Love this question. Yes they are the creepiest of the creeps. Goofy looking, a wire is flipped in their brains.

[keenybmr]

just pathetic beta males who think licking feminist feet will get them puss

[Catholicgirl22]

I agree but they are also the kinda guys that would slip something into a girl's drink at a party.

[OlderAndWiser]

it must be very insulting for a guy to think you are so stupid that you can't see through his shallow strategy.

[brennanhuff]

I don't know any. They might be annoying, but probably not anymore than men's rights activists on the other spectrum who seem pretty creepy and very jaded

[CitationPlz]

Yeah I think it's extremely creepy because it's an insidious way to try to earn social points and take a moral high ground usually only to get an in with women they can't normally compete for. There's a very interesting discussion about this from Joe Rogan I recommend you check it out.

[rjroy3]

Self identified Male Feminists are creepy fucks. Guys who happen to hold the same views as feminists, but don't proclaim it as their identity are fine.

[ADFSDF1996]

Sort of But I don’t think they are actually truly support feminism by heart, I think a lot of them are just trying to get rewards by showing sycophancy towards feminism.

[ManOnFire]

I see them as just as irrelevant as women feminists. I can't stand James Franco either. And Ben is only acting like that now cuz he must be hiding something.

by the way, you never answered my mail. Hmmmm.

[Catholicgirl22]

Ben got caught

[ManOnFire]

I just read it. I knew his would come out eventually.

Still not gonna answer my PM?

[Catholicgirl22]

I've that feature set to mute. Too many dick pics some of which were clearly donkeys.

[ManOnFire]

How can you send pics on here? GaG won't let you, just links to some damn annoying Tinypic or Imgur album.

[winterfox10]

Hey, I'm a male feminist! I've never used that as a pick up line. Most guys who are feminists are just assholes using feminism as another way to call themselves a nice guy.

[TheGreatShepherd]

The Lord is good he has provided another rational soul

[winterfox10]

hahaha It's sad that we have to depend on a higher power! It's a pleasure to meet you.

[coolbreeze]

Depends on the guys motive. Some do it for brownie points. Some do it to better connect with women feminist.

[xctmnt]

I just find them clueless. Like, you are literally undermining your own position by agreeing with an ideology that says you are the source of all the world's problems? Why would you do that? Especially given that you claim to be "privileged". How does that work? How do you brainwash a "privileged" person into campaigning for their own demise?

[TheGreatShepherd]

I understand where you are coming from, and some men do it because they think it makes them attractive but, most are genuine, as the abuse you can get following the statement i am a feminist is not worth it should you not truly believe in it

[TheGreatShepherd]

I cannot believe the irrationality of some people to completely disregard a perfectly reasonable political idea, because extremists will always got into the limes light... These same people will disregard the same extremists in there beliefs its ignorance

[Tomblebee]

Gheeeeeze she was busy.
Now she gonna be winging no one approaches her and she can't find a boyfriend. What a surprise.

[JimRSmith]

Absolutely, yes.

Desperate men, with a pathetic game plan, that rarely works.

[Anonymous]

Yes, male feminists are just as fucked up in the head as female feminists.

[TheGreatShepherd]

Would you say you support genders being treated equally?

[Opinion Owner]

@TheGreatShepherd Yes, of course; and that is why I cannot support feminism. It doesn't take a genius to see that feminism has not been about true equality fr a very long time.
collectivelyconscious.net/.../...-say-youll-do.jpg

[TheGreatShepherd]

You are on about libtard irrational feminism, there's extremists in every group. The definition of feminism is for equality of the genders, i agree that its becoming obsolete in the West but you dont have to look to far into the rest of the world to see issues...

[Catholicgirl22]

@TheGreatShepherd well I support women's rights. Feminists may say that the definition of feminism is for equality of the genders but in practice this is not the case as they tend to focus only on issues concerning women's equality rather than issues that deal with inequality that men may suffer in soceity.

[Opinion Owner]

@TheGreatShepherd Becoming obsolete? LOL

I'm talking about the West where today's women are the most privileged and entitled people in human history and they do nothing to help women elsewhere who, unlike themselves, are actually oppressed.

[Opinion Owner]

@Catholicgirl22 Agreed.

[TheGreatShepherd]

Feminist is too broad a label, to say that they do or don't do things, you just have to look at the definition and the label it should hold... As a Catholic surely you can see that when catholics do bad things and dont act like catholics should, it dosent change the definition of what a catholic is?

[TheGreatShepherd]

I don't think anyone in the West is overly Privileged based on one characteristic its a combination of things, but there's a need for Mens Rights movement and feminism

[Opinion Owner]

@TheGreatShepherd The definition of anything is useless if it doesn't align with the reality of that thing. Such is the case with western feminism today.

[TheGreatShepherd]

Untrue, the pure definition is what matters, when a Group or party moves away from this they get a new name, This is 5th Wave feminism or even Femi-nazi, one cannot simply change the defintion of a word because the internet picks up on people who say they align with it and act accordingly...

[Opinion Owner]

@TheGreatShepherd

Feminism and MRAs are bitter enemies and the existence of both today is doing far more harm than good. They only serve to perpetuate sexism and drive the wedge deeper between women and men.

[TheGreatShepherd]

Do you believe there's a need for MRAs?

[Opinion Owner]

@TheGreatShepherd A definition is pointless if it is not accurate. Period.

[Opinion Owner]

@TheGreatShepherd And regardless, a group is defined by it's actions, not by a dictionary definition that is inaccurate.

Again...

collectivelyconscious.net/.../...-say-youll-do.jpg

[TheGreatShepherd]

This is ludicrous if a loud minority of humans started calling themselves cows, it dosen't make the word Cow change its definition for a mentally ill human, a cow is a cow I am so confused about your ideal that some one can change the definition of a word and a ideology because of feminism destruction clips on you tube

[Catholicgirl22]

I agree OP.

[Opinion Owner]

@TheGreatShepherd "Do you believe there's a need for MRAs?"

As long as we have to defend against the dishonesty, sexism and hatred of feminism... yes, there is a need for MRAs. But what we really need is an h

[TheGreatShepherd]

This cannot be the case when again the group the word feminist is across languages and countries all over the world, if it was specific to a particular group then maybe, but its like saying because in Kenya the Right wing act a certain way it changes the definition of conservatism for the entire world.

[Opinion Owner]

.. honest and open conversation about equality for BOTH genders without the dishonesty, sexism and hatred of feminism, and that will never happen while society supports feminism.

[TheGreatShepherd]

with what you perceive as feminism not what it actually is

[Catholicgirl22]

You can't achieve equality by supporting one gender alone.

[Opinion Owner]

@TheGreatShepherd Perhaps I can help with your confusion. For a long period of history planet Earth was defined as being flat. That definition was inaccurate based on FACTS, so the definition has been updated to more accurately reflect the reality of the thing being defined. See how that works? Hopefully that helps with your confusion.

[Opinion Owner]

@TheGreatShepherd Feminism is as feminism does. End of story.

[TheGreatShepherd]

This has nothing to do with Science don't patronize me. And your correct we then called the earth spherical we didn't change the definition of flat hahahhahhaha because its an adjective not a noun. Like a feminist is a noun once one who describes oneself as a feminist doesn't act like one. You don't change the definition of feminism you change the description of t he person

[TheGreatShepherd]

Its not longer called a flat earth, just like a feminist who dosen't follow the definition of feminism is not a feminist

[lovelyhoneybones]

They're not creepy, they're just a bunch of bitches.