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Why do many so called “nice guys” struggle to get a gf? What are they doing wrong? (Page 2)
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They think are nice when they are not lol. They are just superficial
What the fuck do you know about it. If you haven't noticed it's the non superficial guys that have trouble getting women, seriously, look at the stats.
The men that care way too much about looks and are lookin in the mirror every second and pickin out fancy name brand clothes and having a gay little piercing in their ear and getting that perfect look and practicing shitty pickup lines
THESE ARE THE FUCKBOYS THAT DROWN IN WOMEN!!!
The men that don't care about appearance and are completely about the non-superifical?
Well these men don't even get looked at except in disdain by women.
Signed,
A real motherfuckering man who doesn't let other peoples opinions of him destroy his true essence.
@No_Archons I'm sorry, calm down. It's normal to care about appearance, I value my appearance and hygiene a lot actually. I meant it as in some men (many women too) are nice because they want something in return, which does not make them nice. Nothing wrong with that and it's normal, but that would be the reason they have trouble
I'm sorry if I offended you. I spoke too casually
Hmm apology accepted. You can tell a nice guy from a fake nice guy by how they treat people who have nothing to offer them. Maybe a less attractive woman, or a man with low social status.
@No_Archons Agreed :)
@No_Archons True a real "nice guy" doesn't like to brag and treats everyone with respect. And that's why I still haven't gotten a girlfriend because I hate being cocky
B a little cocky around women
The answer lies in the "so called".
And for those who are genuinely nice - well, probably because other than being nice, they don't have much to offer.
The whole "nice guys" diatribe by women in recent years is just a reaction to the criticism that women prefer jerks. But what women don't seem bright enough to realize is that they are shooting themselves in the foot by criticizing nice guys.
The fact is that women are sexually attracted to and love to fuck jerks, but they fall in love with and settle down with nice guys. Their behavior shows that to be true day after day after day in the real world.
Because a lot of girls are interested in assholes for some reason.
There's nice and then there's, "nice".
See how I differentiated the two?
Actual nice is good.
Acting, "nice" with the intent to, or interpreted as, simply fuck a girl is not good.
I guess you’re just a door mat and you don’t challenge them. There’s nothing wrong with being decent to people, but you have to have your own opinions, be confident in yourself, and not take shit.
Nope. Lack of confidence and assertiveness is the problem!
Nothing wrong with being nice as long as you aren't meek.
It's not BEING nice that's the problem. It's THINKING they're nice. Most "nice guys" are not. Men are defined by actions, not words or labels. Don't call yourself a nice guy. Just be nice.
Simply put, they can't distinguish between being genuinely nice and being passive sycophants.
Nice guys are way better than bad boys. When they are actually nice. Be patient.
What can we say.. hehe.. I myself is a victim of this syndrome. I have always dated a bad guys and left hurt
Why do you continue to choose scumbags?
@cth96190 Something is wrong with me i guess.. To dumb to judge people.. and trust easily
There are kind guys, creeps and nice guysTM. Kind guys find a girl if they speak and look, creeps are creeps and then the niceguys (TM) everyone talks about...
I think its pretty easy for nice guys to have a girlfriend. They will be so down to her and make all her wish possible. But I doubt they are approached for casual sex or flings. They are marriage material
Because they're not nice. They're arrogant idiots, and they blame others for themselves not being able to get a girlfriend.
Nice guys are like a cute puppy dog they give you lots of licks and attention and the girls go awwwwwww. But they do not have sex with puppies.
nice guys are boring. girls are supposed to be nice not boys, boys are supposed to swear and be shameless and manly. that's what a girl needs. so she can feel feminine around him.
That's quite stereotypical 💁♂️
@Ajin98 Fuck everything!!!
What?
@Ajin98 I'm rude so every girl is going to come with me :p
Okay.. cool☺
This is true, I don’t understand it but girls seem to like guys that get respect and guys seem to get respect by being assholes (logic right?) but that’s people prerogative for some reason and people can do or think whatever they want to, the only think that bothers me is that these girls then moan about being treated badly? (What you expect? You picked the bad guy, do you expect him to be nice?) or is the challenge they like in trying to change him into a nice guy?
@Mika1999 🤘🤘🤘🤘👏👍
@Mika1999 um being a bad boy doesn't mean he will be a retarded asshole the whole time. he's just more manly, and bold... and he would know how to treat a woman right. acutally.
Because they are only nice to specific girls they wanna get with and think that them being nice makes them entitled to have that girl.
They're not actually nice, just entitled. Period.
You guys would say Jesus was entitled
I have had guys who I thought were one of my best friends try to kiss me when we were drunk knowing I had a boyfriend, then when I said no he got super angry and it was actually frightening af
The default position is to get angry and make it your fault to cover their bad behaviour.
When the guy is a puppet and bends over backwards to please you. I lose respect for him.
what does that have to do with being nice?
@hellionthesagereborn Because nice guys tend to be overly nice and regularly go out of their way to please you?
@BruceJender Their are plenty of men who are nice who are not push overs and puppets though so why conflate the two very different things?
@hellionthesagereborn this guy would be on the extreme side compared to what you are talking about which is a normal guy doing normal nice things.
Yes but why would you equate being weak with being nice? I'm not a push over, I have a line, I tell people (and women) what it is and if they cross it, their are consequences. I also am nice (this is according to others) because I think its the right thing to do. So again, why would you conflate the two very different things together as if they where the same? That's like me saying in order to not be promiscuous a woman has to never have sex ever, not even when married otherwise she is a whore. That's a "bit" of an extreme stance don't you think? Same thing with what your saying, your saying is that in order to be nice you have to be weak and pathetic and their is no inbetween. That's a rather extreme stance. Their is a middle ground, you can be nice and you can be strong as well (again, most nice people are strong).
@hellionthesagereborn never said the guy is weak and pathetic for being a push over. You said that not me. What I am saying is this guy who abandons his persona for the girl is someone I don't respect. It's as simple as that. That's someone who's too nice! Not what you are explaining.
Okay that's completely different then being nice, that's being weak. But what ever.
Because they chase girls that clearly don't want a nice guy. Or sometimes these guys aren't ACTUAL nice guys and women can see right through them.
Women can't see through shit lol. What you SEE is the man being attractive or not. If he is you think he's nice regardless of how he acts. If he's not, no good thing he could possibly do would be seen as anything more than a manipulative attempt to get women to sleep with him even if he isn't doing it for women.
Any guy can get a girl if he's willing to make a move and get rejected. You can't be like a woman and expect that perfect person will whisk you off your feet. You have to go find her.
Passivity is something females have been taught by nature to despise. U don't want your offspring to have a doormat for a father. Yes it's not nice for nice guys but as a species it's a great tactic
Nice guys dont apporach soon, they wait.
They dont get inside the brain of girls by showing off or impressing.
And they dont excite girls...
They're trying to be nice instead of being themselves.
"But being nice IS being myse-"
Boi shut ya bitch ass up.
We all want pussy it is biological, but some of us are not honest about it. Nice guys are sneaky fuckers.
If you don't go out and meet people then you won't get a girlfriend. That simple.
nice guys finish last, that's why they treat us like trash 👍🏻
.😞.
@Tyffen it's just a song babes
Hahaha
You always quote songs, and I misinterpret it... 😂
Usually people who say they’re nice aren’t nice. Check out r/niceguys
Because they mostly come off as fake and desperate and act like doormats. Girls don't like that.
Could be their approach. Maybe they’re passive unknowingly.
Those referred to as "Nice Guys" aren't actually nice guys... They're sexual perverts and vulgar assholes who demand sexual favours from people for being socially acceptable to them (polite etc) and try guilting or bullying them when rejected.
They act like the assholes they are when they get rejected which girls can smell a mile off before even having to reject them.
So is my only hope too be a complete asshole too most broads. I can say I've been nothing but a humble gentleman too most chicks & I've had 0 luck I'm the last 2 years too get a girlfriend
The honest answer is looks, first and foremost. Confidence and masculine attitude also plays an important role, but looks is the most important reason.
"Nice guys" usually lack confidence. Confidence is very important to a potential date
Perhaps the gals are seeing through the facade of "niceness" with many of them?
Being nice will only get you taken advantage of, period.
The nice guy who thinks about that is concentrating more on relationship than career... Which is boring for girls...
Because they're not nice guys. I just hate the fact that they're called "nice" even if they're just creeps when gentleman are the real nice guys.
Being unattractive.
Treating women as if they are on a pedestal instead of normal people.
Pursuing the wrong women
Usually the 3rd one.
I am a nice guy and it is hard to get a girlfriend cause iam friend zone a lot. It is just my personality but I try not to be nice and people say iam an asshole so I don't know
A nice guy doesn't have a big enough penis and he doesn't make enough money.
They're being too nice... Being nice is seen as too timid and therefore lack confidence. They need to have a rock star mentality to get a girlfriend.
It's always looks Women find bad traits less so when the guy is attractive but diminish good traits when the guy isn't hot Ignore their lies
Fact- GIRLS LIKE BAD BOYS. They don't want to get bored with nice guys.
I know some "nice guys" flip out but what about when the girl keeps saying she IS interested in said guy but is totally playing him? That's ok, right?
They pretend to be nice so it's likely to be find out by girl later
Well there are lots of guys pretending to be nice, but most of em are fuckbois. If you wanna spot a real nice guy... WELL GUESS WHAT YOU CAN'T! Not by how he treats YOU because there is a vested interest in fooling you.
The only way for a woman to spot the true essence of a man is by observing his interactions with people OTHER THAN YOURSELF!!!
They don't understand that women are just gaming them for resources, status, and sperm. If they did they wouldn't be so nice
Nice is a simply way of saying they aren't attracted to you. Could be appearance, or personality.
Girls only like guys who treat them like shit so they can have something to "change" and shit to piss and moan about.
I`m a nice girl and I struggle to find a guy lol
Y so? You are pretty
Really? Most of the nice girls get a guy easily
I stopped being nice, because of that reason.
Haha so now you will surely get a bf😀
because women like assholes this is not hard to figure out
They go after the wrong girls🤷🏾
A lack of testosterone
Because they are not as nice as they seem.
If I ever meet a nice guy I'll ask him.
They seem desperate or thirsty to get laid
in fairness, even bad boys are like that too, the only difference bad boys who seem like they have confidence don't give two shits if he's fucking one girl and has a side chick.
at least they don't act as desperate as nice guys because they have lots of options.
So you would rather get your heart broken and cry about it because I'm 32 I know how that story goes with females lol. I'm not going to normalize that bad boys are the standard of what a guy should be. I know guys who have that persona and if I wanted to follow in their footsteps to get laid more I would but I think that's fucking dishonest, immature and shallow as fuck. I have nothing wrong with saying "you are a nice guy" but I know how to fight and stand up for myself and if you reply back with good for you or w. e well then this convo ain't going anywhere.
@thatguyfromtoronto despair isn't a good look on anyone
I don't believe in either, it's okay to be a good guy but to have a backbone and not to take everything seriously. I've learned not to put much effort and not open up to girls because I believe many girls don't care about commitment. I think once a girl goes through a few bad boy experiences her perception then changes to, "fuck guys, I am going to be a free spirit and do what I want"
When God blesses a girl with a great overall guy, most often then not girls who have come from fatherless or dysfunctional environments, including bad relationships is this pent up frustration of emotion that if the next guy that comes along whos nice to break his heart regardless because the thinking is "well I dealt with it so I don't care if I dish it back" and that's immature thinking.
I know this because I have dealt with this, my guy friends have dealt with this, I have read it online through different authors or scholars. So it becomes a perpetual wheel of continued BS, thats my take.
"so called" is the key.
They are needy and come across as weak and boring.