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Thats called "equality". Y'all want it you can have it 🤣
If he won't pay for you on a first date, he's not that into you. Even if he does call you sunshine.
troll
@PrinceOfAljazeera who? Her or me?
@PrincessGrail
What would you do to prove you are into him on a first date?
@MysteriousDarkness kiss him at the end of the date. Or at least let him kiss me.
@PrincessGrail
He pays for the meal and all you do is give him one kiss. Pathetic.
@MysteriousDarkness what?
if she doesn't offer to pay on the first date she is a gold digger
It's not a financial transaction. It's a question of romance. He courts me, and if I like him I kiss him (or let him kiss me).
@PrincessGrail
What is to make a guy think you would help woth paying bills, paying for groceries or unexpected expenses since you refuse to pay for yourself on a first date.
@MysteriousDarkness why I would want him to think that? I'm confused. We're not living together. That's like years in the future, if ever.
@PrincessGrail
There are people who think about down the road just in case the that time comes.
Really?
@AkshiJanjua not true.
lol why so many gold diggers in today's times we have to stay careful
@MysteriousDarkness I don’t. Not on a first date. And he shouldn’t either.
@PincessGrail
Then do you just think about the here and now on a first date. Those who think like that typically go from person to person, to person, to person etc. In other words in your case do you want Mr Right Now who is Mr. Money Bags that will pay for all the things and services you want or Mr. Right? It deems like you will be needing this
@MysteriousDarkness I want a guy who is sweet and romantic to me. Doesn’t matter how much money he has.
@PrincessGrail
That is good but to expect a guy to pay on the first date renders it to being all about you. There are guys that like to be romanced also.
@MysteriousDarkness still...
@PrincessGrail Still what?
@MysteriousDarkness he should still pay on the first date
@PeincessGrail
What makes yiu so special that you should not have to pay for yourself on a first date regardles what the date is or cost?
@MysteriousDarkness I’m a girl. A pretty girl.
Not being snarky here.
@PrincessGrail
So what be cause he could be a man a handsome man. To me being a pretty woman is not good enough. You come across as you believe you are entitled to not have to pay.
It’s a good thing if you split the bill definitely not a bad thing
Yes. It is bad. Men should always pay. That's how to be a good gentleman. Even if you invited them, they still have to pay. But if it was with a female, then it won't really matter who pays.
So you're cheap and entitled. Got it.
I don't think it's exactly BAD, but it's not exactly good either. The way I see it, the guy should pay or if you really want then both need to agree to go half way.
If he asks you out he should pay.
If there is a exception, it should be cleared prior to the date so there is no confusion or surprises.
Depends what you’re looking for. If you want a serious (engaged/married) traditional relationship with this guy potentially then it’s a VERY bad sign.
Otherwise it doesn’t matter
I'm old school on this. If guy asked u out he should pay.
Guys and girls are different. Omg I'm glad we all have different straight and weaknesses.
For me I’ll pay for her of course but I like when she try to pay at first more than the girl who just keep frozen and don’t try to reach for the check.
Why would it be bad?
Relationships should be equal. Why shouldn't you start it like that.
They should pay. I've never been with a man who has not and if i was id get up and leave them with the bill, never speak them again
@SexyAshh Than you! I think people are crazy now a days. I always pay and I'd your broke then dont date get your life together cause as a man that's what we do
Are you saying your time is worth more than the man's? Because that's not equality and that's what's happening here.
Yepp thats exactly what im saying now get mad and cry because your comment wasn't even worth the two seconds of my life to read. Move along;) @MrNameless
@SexyAshh I agree maybe I'm way to old fashioned but what happened to the courting process? When a man valued a womans time and valued her. This is why the game is so fucked up now
Judging by your comment you are nothing but a petulant child who refuses to grow up and be responsible. By the way your time is worth less then mouse shit.
I would prefer to pay for my own meal, that way he can’t expect sex just because he paid me a 30$ meal. No thanks, chief, I’ll pay for my own dishes.
Even if he pays he can expect all he wants. Doesn't mean it's gonna happen. The good men I've dated didn't expect anything but to give me a special evening. And I will do the same for him.
It's bad if he asks after the date has started. But its not as bad if you guys agree to it before accepting the date.
I don’t think it is fair to expect someone to always pay for everything on a date. I say it is fine to split 50/50. If it is a special occasion then I would offer to pay for the whole thing, but any other time 50/50 is best.
Yes… I mean it depends who asked who. If my boyfriend asked me out, I’d expect him to pay and vice versa
It's only bad because he asked you, rather than letting it be assumed by just saying "two checks" when the waiter came around.
I think it's fine for each person to pay for their own meal
awww my ex called me sunshine <3
i dont think it's a big deal... must be a mom thing since my mom and my friend's moms are all like that
Traditional men should pay for a traditional woman. If you're not traditional then don't expect him to pay.
If a guy does that either he is a tightwad prick or it isn't a date
The expectation that someone should pay due to their gender is clearly sexist.
He should pay he asked you out. I usually have guy pay then if we click I'll get us drinks somewhere else or dessert.
It's pretty bad cause it means the guy doesn't know that women just want to be treated as equals to men... But only when it's convenient for them
My rules:
I ask, I pay unless I specifically ask for "Dutch treat" and you are good with it.
You ask, you pay, again with the specific "Dutch treat" exception.
So you should get a free meal just because you are female?
So much for equality, this is the definition of inequality.
Split the bill or pay for what you ate, everytime.
I think she should get a free meal because he was the one who asked.
I disagree, if you agree to coming you agree to paying your part.
If you don't want to pay you obviously don't want to date enough so you should have said no to the date.
smh ok you go ahead and make her pay for her meal but if she meets me she will get stolen because I wouldn't let her do that.
I don't mind, a woman who is fair is who I look for.
Not one who expects special privileges for being female.
all I'm saying is may be she had no plans going out and spend money so when you ask her out you're asking her to spend money on something she didn't plan to, thats why its up to you to cover her expenses.
Me and my girl we take each other out and whoever asks for it pays for it. its not a rule but thats how we do it.
She should take the fact she is a bit limited on money into account into the yes/no answer.
You don't ask your friends to pay for a holiday they asked you to come on do you?
You say I can't come because I'm tight on money at the moment.
and you being her man should say dont worry about it baby everything on me.. just imagine how happy she would be.
your girlfriend is not like every other friend, treat her differently.
If I have to win her over with money it's not a good relationship.
Oh and that last part you said can also be flipped.
Your boyfriend is not like every other friend, treat him differently.
Like, being fair when it comes to paying the date.
Love is a two way street, if my girlfriend isn't putting in similar effort into the relationship it's best if she moves on.
Do you have a girlfriend?
I think it's better for you to pay for your own meal in the first place, it shows that you are not entitled and that you are ready to invest in the relationship as well.
I think it's normal for a woman to pay. It's gender equality!
I'm old school i would like to pay for the girl on a date.
I agree with your mom. But hell I was raised old school and I am 41. But times are changing. It's more of the fact that if your ok with it.
It's the first date just split the dang thing.
If you're both poor I don't know go to McDonald's or something.
Honestly, going half is the best thing. I feel comfortable doing that. My boyfriend and I still do that. He paid for our first date but after that (unless either one of us are having financial issues), we go half. It’s better that way.
Well the one who asked should pay, if it was me i'd pay but it would be nice to know if she'd offer to pay half or not
The first date should always be paid by the guy AT LEAST lol
I will pay for the first date, but it is nice if she at least offers to split.
There’s nothing wrong with it as long as he lets you know ahead of time.
There’s literally nothing wrong with it at all!
Not bad at all, i think its better if i pay for my own meal because i never think that my date should pay for me lol
i don't think it is a bad thing by itself.
i'm more creeped out by the pet name after one week of texting and not having met you lol
Not at all. He needs to gauge whether you're worth investing in.
I've found lately women only want equality until it comes paying for the bill.
Okay. After a few dates I can see how this would be alright. Or even when you are exclusive. But on the first date? Meh I agree with your mom.
i a girl doesn't at least offer to pay on the first date i would assume she maybe a golddigger
I am happy to pay full even but if she offers to split or even insists i would have a respect for her
if a guy does that he's not a real man, sorry. I like to feel feminine around a man, and man to be the one who takes care of manly things.
Then cook your date a meal to eat don’t go out and make him pay he works hard all day
I was speaking generally, I don't even drink coffee outside let alone eat, I hate public places... I meant in a case if we did end up in a situation where we had to pay for something he should want to do it. One time I ended up flirting with a waiter guy, he was very good looking but obviously very poor he insisted that I stay and have a drink so I said ok, when I started to leave I left him a generous tip on the table, a week later when he saw me walking by again he stopped me and gave me back that money and said I don't take money from girls I like, and that was the coolest thing ever. So when I see men like you complaining about these small things it's frustrating, there are men like THAT too, who also work hard but who can keep it cool as well.
this is pathetic
No. But I don't think in my particular case it's going to happen.
no, some guys dont have the money to pay for both meals.
As women there's a whole movement about equality but then it all comes down to things like these...
A lot of Women who claim themselves feminists, pick and choose. They fight for equality in the work place and public sphere, but as soon as it comes to dating, they're like, "nope. I'm old fashioned!"
It's kinda annoying tbh. I usually offer to pay for first dates if I'm the one inviting bc, well, I invited.
However I also hate the double standards. I used to have three female flatmates. They talk about all these equality but when it comes down to taking the trash out, I gotta do it everyday bc I'm a guy
Because of how you met he might just be testing to see if you are wanting to really meet him or just looking for a free meal.
It's tacky and lame if he was the one who asked you out. Who ever invites has to pay.
No. I always offer to pay but NEVER play that "i insist" game. It is too drainin
I think the default should each one paying their own expenses.
The guy would pay if he finds you attractive enoughh
I think he should pay if he asks you out definitely
For the first 2 or 3 date, both pay for what they gets.
Then, when you know you're going to really date, you can take turns.
People will tell you that "who asks pays for everything". Except most girls will never ask, and therefore, never pay.
Don't be like that, that guy isn't a walking wallet.
He is just testing you.
After this date he will probably offer to pay himself and will expect you offer to pay or split again sometimes.
The test is usually in whether she offers to split even if he suggests paying. This to me sounds like he’s decided he doesn’t really like her.
I think it is fair that whoever asks the person out should pay.
No if not you'll get a free ride for the rest of your life with him if it works out
Serious date, guy should definitely pay, if otherwise no.
No wtf. It should be like that. But there are some men who take it as an offence if a woman want to pay her half. I dont get these men. Why do they want to give free money? Haha
at the end of the day everything is reciprocal
even if he pays in a date
you still will spend money for him in another way
That's all wrong l will pay always for the two of us
The man pays. If she wants to split then that’s her decision.
No, it means he is looking for an equal and not a dependent.