Last year, just before Halloween, I witness a hostile argument between a store clerk and a male customer. The man's patience was apparently tried repeatedly by the store clerk who was giving excuses & alibis for repeated failures to deliver the man's order. Because she and other store employees were ignoring the ringing phones, it was his 3rd time back in store to check on the status of his order. Upon reminding her that he has returned for the 3rd time and that she hasn't kept her promise, she lost it and blew up on him. She repeatedly cursed him and taunted him with her middle finger as if to provoke him for a fight.
Another store employee ran to the scene and started telling the customer that he was adding stress on them. Nowhere as as loud as the female employees, he raised his voice saying, "You're stressed? Did you not think that your incompetence has caused me and the other customers stress?" Then, the 2nd clerk yelled at the man, "You're yelling at a woman. Have you no more respect for women?" She approached him with a tight fist and attempted to stomp on his feet! I jumped in and said, "You girls are getting personal. Don't float any of that feminist issues on this man and this situation. You're clearly incompetent and you shouldn't blame your stress on the customers." They both gave us the middle fingers and that throat slitting gesture.
The male mall cop later uttered after witnessing & appeasing the angry exchange of words, "If I wanted to hit them, he probably wanted to as well."
@spartan55 They were department store employees who looked decent & educated until they both flipped out.
This sort of applies to anyone you out mass etc.
is it right to hit a 14 yr old boy when you are say 25 and are very much taller and out weigh them?
it comes down to pretty much self defence and IF hitting them is best option, minimum / realistic force etc.
Breaking the cheek bone of a girl from bunching her face, when she slapped you and she’s 5’4 versus 5’11 plus, would not go down well and could face assault charges or a very pissed off family and mates.
I worked with a guy that was arrested and charged with assault, a guy (we all knew as a pain in the ass) was gobbling off (he’s short), he pushed the guy I worked with who proceeded to punch him to the ground with multiple punches (he’s about the same across the shoulders as this guys height). The guy had broken eye socket, fractured jaw and smashed nose.
basically for the question, self defence of hitting is best option and if sparing / training.
equally where a girl out masses a guy the same applies.
Hitting someone is really the last resort and is not often helpful.
In real life the result of hitting someone simply escalates the situation rather than calming stuff down.
What about the following.
you are out for a drink / meal with a very pretty girlfriend, she’s coming back from the ladies and you see her slap a guy and him then hit her (you missed the bit where he said she had lovely tits and he would love to bang her).
Would you step in or is it fair he just thumped your girlfriend as she slapped him?
Your sister or mum is having a heated argument with some guy, she pushes and slaps him, he hits them…
what do you do, is it fair that he hit them as they pushed and hit him?
What the guy did to the other guy wasn't self-defense at all. It was excessive retaliation and therefore aggravated assault. That would be just as bad as if I were to beat up my short female friend that's only 4'9, unskilled, thin and petite for pushing me or giving me a lame slap while I'm 5'7 and 130ish and taking Judo classes. I wouldn't beat her. I would be restraining her and trying to calm her down or simply walk away.
Punching someone multiple times and giving a broken nose for just a shove... I wouldn't want to date a person like that. Our sensei tells us to avoid fight and self-defense is only reserved if you really/seriously need it, then leave afterward... don't continue beating someone that's already down.
I started boxing on occasion recently and in a straight-up fight with rules and institutions governing things? Fuckin' yep. You're same as any other man in my eyes. I might be inclined to go slightly easier on you because I am a big, if lean, fucking guy, but, overall, I'm hitting back at you just as hard as I would a man I'm up against.
Outside of that? Typically no.
I've been flat-fucking open-handed broad-smacked right upside the face by a woman once I accidentally assumed was pregnant (someone told me beforehand she was). Took about 5 minute for the pain to kick in and another 5 hours for it to disappear so in all fairness I wasn't overly concerned with returning the strike but I don't feel inclined to return a slap. Typically if a woman slaps me especially if she really fucking open-hands me, I deserved it.
If a woman friend punches me however, even playfully. Be prepared lady, my lady friends are no different from my man-friends in my eyes so there's a 50/50 that I'll return it.
There are also 2 specific topics in my life/past that if anyone ever unprompted touched upon them I'd be so pissed off I'd be inclined to punch the guy across the room and I'd have a similar furiously enraged response if a woman hit these two buttons. My closest friends would probably know me well enough to know what they are. I'm an open book but you don't talk about a couple things unless I bring them up and, typically there shouldn't be a reason to dive into them unprompted. I only share the deepest level stuff with those who don't pry anyway.
Look... I get the whole size/muscle difference thing... and obviously no one should hit anyone ever, but... if you're fixin' to throw hands y'all better be fixin' to catch 'em too.
Women can be extremely violent. And self defense is self defense regardless of which gender is the victim/subject.
I don't think people should use violence to express any emotion but if they do... you may defend yourself.
I'm a petite 5'4. My husband is a not-so-petite 6'5. If I ever lose my mind and decide to attack him for some reason, he better lay my ass out. You shut that shit down. Him being a male and me being a female and our size difference is irrelevant if I were to attack him.
If you're attacked with a knife (and assuming you're not also armed) and you're able to disarm and subdue her then obviously you don't then go beat her to a pulp but if you need to hit her to establish your reactionary gap then...🤷🏼♀️ it is what it is.
Having a penis does not require that you suffer abuse at the hands of a female.
Obviously you can't just go around punching ladies for no reason, but you have the right to self defense.
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if you're getting beat self defense is self defense. if she's tryna kill you fuck everything. but the way it looks to me at least, you're supposed to be able to take all kinds of shit. like she throwing hands? catch them. doing all kinds of crazy emotional/psycological shit with you, screaming throwing it in your face? you need to leave or find out how to put her in check. fucking all of your friends and trashing your name while talking to you and leading you on while you're going through a mental health crisis? you need to leave and find a new girl, and new friends. try and expose her, so she can't keep dragging your life down, but yeah new everything. maybe fuck your "friends" up, but just find a new social life. there's many situations where most won't blame you, internally at least. but thats just the way it is. its like, the girls are probs thinking "what if i say something rude or im in an emotional state and "i dont mean it" and he hits me" and the guys are speaking for the girls so more of the girls like them. then there's personal stuff, and violence like that might turn some people on but generally is seen as distressing, even to them. get out of those views, itll just rot you on the inside
NO it’s NEVER right. Women have less physical strength than men and this should be recognised and respected by all men. Unless the women was a crazy psychotic murderer who was coming at you with a knife and you had to defend yourself from being killed, then no there is absolutely no other reason to hit a woman. If a guy wants to resort to hitting when he’s angry at her, then he needs to learn some self control, a woman isn’t a punching bag. Get an actual punching bag if you need to hit something so desperately.
So if a woman was beating up a guy , he had to "take it" and not try to stop her or defend himself?
Yeah of course he can defend himself. He still probably shouldn’t hit her as hard as he would a guy though, but I was just saying how a guy shouldn’t hit a woman if he’s angry at her... self defence in general is a different story. And no matter what gender you are self defence is valid.
Sometimes yeah, depends on what’s appropriate to the circumstances. Taking a swing at a girl half your size because she shoved you just isn’t necessary.
But there are some big broads out there that can hold their own. Was working a camp job years ago and a couple worked there too. Constantly fighting, and she had a couple inches and easy 50lbs on him. She’s screeching and beating the hell outta him one night, he’s had enough and winds up and knocks her out cold. Like, yeah she had that one coming
Sure - if you are being attacked physically by a woman who has the means to cause serious damage to you - whether because she's physically big/strong enough herself, or because she has a weapon - then you have the right to defend yourself, which could certainly include hitting her.
Otherwise, there is really no justification to hit anyone.
The guy should try not to but of course there is a line she can cross, like getting too violent, using the kitchen knife or frying pan, it does happen unfortunately. Maybe she is gonna hurt their child or something. There are some crazy people who need to be stopped sometimes.
I’ve been punched in the side of the head and face by a woman before. It wasn’t really effective and didn’t really hurt. I wasn’t about to lay her out over it. Nor let her get away with it. So, I just called the cops and pressed charges.
The cops who showed up. They agreed it was the smartest move to make.
If you are physically threatened with harm, a man can hit a woman. Same reasoning for a man hitting another man. If, for example, she's comin at you with a knife, you are totally justified in doing whatever is necessary (including hitting) to defend yourself.
Now, havign said that... That's the only situation in which you are justified in hitting a woman. In general, hitting a woman is no tokay... it's a weakness in the man if he thinks it is.
No, that being said, I think a lot of guys would benefit from proper training in handling an irate woman. The best thing to do is remain calm and then try to tell a joke to lighten up the mood, something like 'Hey you wanna hear a joke? Women's rights. Hahahah'
"There are lots of reasons... you just don't do it.'
https://www.youtube.com/embed/rksKvZoUCPQReason is NOT equal to justification.
Self defense is the only justification.
He's not advocating abuse... it's funny.
Just relax and have a laugh.
Yes, there is, when she is physically attacking you and you can't get away safely. However, if you DO defend yourself, it is almost certain you will go to jail. The woman will never go to jail for attacking you. In some cases even if you don't go to jail and never hit her and she hits you, you may STILL go to jail - cops are white knights.
u It's never okay to hit a lady, as long as she is acting like a lady. If a female starts swinging her fists or trying to kick a guy, then a guy is entitled to use reasonable force necessary to defend himself.
I believe in equality. If she wants to throw hands, she can catch some as well.
Self defense only. The same goes for women, don’t put your hands on someone unless they put their hands on you.
Of course. If she's attacking you or your kids, or even if she hits you first. I don't play that "but she's a woman" crap. People, male or female, need to keep their hands to themselves.
Only if his wellbeing depends on it. It's never okay to hit anyone and it's not okay to hit back (unless it's the only chance to get away from the person attacking you).
Sure, if anyone attacks you then attack them back… Better get your head on straight. If some woman with an IED strapped to her chest comes running at you, you better end her ass.
Of course- same as there is a man. Those situations are few, far between, and best avoided, but if it comes to violence, there's no reason NOT to hit a woman.
Yes if she pulls a gun or knife on you or are assaulting your woman or kids, and that's honestly it. Otherwise you can report to police and in some cases restrain to prevent injury.
Like if the woman was a female psychopath who attacked you with a baseball bat or a knife, or poisoned your kids or something like that, then yeah, beat her half to death, then call the police.
Absolutely there is!
In self defence; in defence of another, especially a child. There's 2 excellent reasons right there.
Yes. It is ok to hit a woman if she is seeking to severely harm or kill you, or harm or kill your children.
Only in self-defense. It's never alright to be the aggressor.
No one is justified with hitting anyone
Usually no, but I can see a self defense purpose, if she is coming at myself with a weapon, I may have no choice but to hit her.
No dude if a woman is coming at you with a weapon and or trying to put you in immediate danger, yes, totally hit that women lol
If she is putting your life in danger sure. (Self defense)
m You could ask Furio Giunta as a subject-matter expert...
Just rewatched that episode the other night.
There’s a girl that I’m talking to that loves to be hit so I guess I’ll take her up on her offer since it’s sexual. But I’m not gonna punch her in the face with my bare fist
Only in self defense. Also I live by this rule, if she hits you with a open hand ✋ take it but if she hits you with a clenched fist 👊 knock her ass out. If it’s play punching do nothing but if it’s physical violence defend yourself.
No no man should hit a women , unless its LIFE and Death or you are being assaulted or robbed. In a domestic situation and your trapped you have the right to get the women off you, but once you do LEAVE. Self defense is self defense
I said no, but now I’m thinking war, it’s an insurgency…etc. She’s about to kill me. Obvi extreme. But in normal everyday stuff, no certainly not.
Even if she hits you. Society hasn’t allowed the average woman’s muscles to compete with ours.
Only ok if the woman is attacking the man. Like, trying to hurt him and he is acting in self defense.
Unless I feel my life is in danger or serious bodily injury is probable, NO.
Shouldn't be hitting anyone tbh, but I would also argue self-defense (excl martial arts), if that's the situation you're met with. Otherwise, no.
If she runs her mouth. Just playing lol. I think the only time to hit another person in general as a civi is in self defense.
In extreme cases yeah like self-defense or to prevent yourself from being killed or great bodily harm
Self Defence obviously, as a last resort after trying to restrain has failed, I've seen women do a lot of damage with bottles, knives etc.
Same as with men, for me: self defense - but only if there's no other way.
Their are plenty of reasons to hit someone, but it's the fact that most people don't wanna get into a fight that causes people not to
Yeah. There's thousands of reasons. The point is that you still don't do it.
Because hitting people is wrong. It's only acceptable in self defense of you had no other options.
Will see who came from fatherless or abusive homes on this question
You want to hit a woman are you crazy? PSYCHICAL VIOLENCE HA?
If she let your semen fall out of her mouth before she could swallow it because she's clumsy or not paying attention
Only when she is endangering your life. But good fucking luck convincing the judge of that even if it is true.
Hell yeah, she punches you, you teach her what a real punch is like.
Never, men are not savages. But I see a lot of savage behavior today.
For Self defence ONLY
But that's not just to females
No one should hit anyone violence is never ok
Restraining is more appropriate if she's a danger to her self and others
Never, ever, EVER hit a woman, No matter what she has done.
See Bill Burr for the correct answer to this question
Only out of self defense.
Exactly what @Twalli said
The same reason to hit a man…
No, unless she was going to shoot you.
If she's about to kill you
Martial arts practice and self defense
In self defense I would it is.
Yes, if she's about to kill you
Self defense or the defense of another
No. Give RP is more than okay though
Yes it’s a matter of respect
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