There are many of us actually. But the vast majority of us have let go of the standardized biblically based dogma that most generally believe constitutes moral behavior. We simply became tired of the hypocrisy, the need to apply ignorance in a deliberate and judicious way in order to maintain Tennant's of faith and then there's the delusional political and social positions held by vast numbers of believers due to either pure laziness or simple lack of interest who simply accept what their told about Truth, The Gods, yes plural. Remember the first line in that book "In the begining the Elohime created..." Elohime is now and has always been plural.
Suffice it to say, that we are still here. We still hold to the principles of kindness, respect for all life, honor, integrity and truth, inclusion, acceptance and support of the autonomy of the individual and their right to choose their path in life. We still practice these principles constantly in our daily lives with discipline. As always we generally do not seek power, but will accept it out of a sense of duty when called upon to do so. We still seek to avoid the public spotlight and value our anonymity.
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Too many are obsessed with sex due to societal pressure/shaming like virgin shaming and many men also just blindly follow their instincs aka became an easy manwhore (-it is ok to be promiscuos if you use protection, ain't hypocritical and shame on people for being virgin). If i was a western woman i would be paranoid since many westerns ain't wait till marriage and there is no way to know whether a guy uses you for sex or not. It is kinda sad that western people get pressured to have sex in real life but also get slut-shamed on gag lool since no matter what, you can't do right. It is also so normalized that men can sleep around to the point there is no even an insult for them (-insults like wh*e, b* are directed at women). Middleeastern men ain't better in western world since they can whore around but women may get honour killed for doing the same. It is also ok for a manwhore to marry a virgin. No wonder why there is hymen reconstructive surgery or why women lie about it since it can be dangerous. As long as slutshaming women and virgin shaming/cuckshaming men won't stop, this immorality will continue (- men even get cuckshamed for getting cheated on while women rarely get cuckshamed which makes it more ok for men to cheat on than women- i know some women who get cheated on but it is not even a huge problem for the kurdish/turkish society but when women cheat the whole family of her get offended by it and there is a lot drama which can be deadly dangerous too)
That is a very borderline statement. Of course there a moral men left. What about moral women. They are getting a whole lot harder to find these days too. Usually people attract the type of people that they show others they are willing to accept. This is based on the amount of respect one shows themselves. If one disrespects themselves on a regular basis then they are giving other’s permission to do so as well. People are also very bad at taking cue’s by peoples behavior and instead try to force a fantasy out of a relationship when it has been obvious the whole time hoe the other person feels about them.
I firmly believe that it is because of jealousy. If an adolescent male sees another male having sex with a girl, he will try to copy that other boy's behavior. Because the other boy is receiving sex, admiration, and popularity.
But the problem is that when every boy does that, and follows their selfish impulses while discarding their conscience, it ends up changing society. So now you have a situation where the only way a young woman can get a boyfriend is if she's willing to have sex with him. Because that is now the standard.
So now every woman caves (because they don't know their own worth and their own power.)*
So then the remaining holdouts of moral men choose to go along with the rest of the population. Because otherwise they would have no way of getting a mate. (Except me, of course. Because I'm stubborn.)
*Unfortunately, some women are forced to have sex against their will (rape). And some others give in out of fear, because of this. This is one example of Rape Culture, which is a very real problem.
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You're asking the wrong question: instead of asking "why are there no moral men left?", instead you should be asking "what behaviors and/or features of maleness do women reward?" (because, yes, women "reward" men they find favor with through positive reinforcement, i. e. sex and intimacy). If the behavior is morally repugnant butit gets results (barring criminal behavior, of course), then that's the answer.
Not to get too philosophical or religious, but when people ask "why does God allow evil to exist", a good reply to that question would be, "given two outcomes, one which is moral and one which is not, where the cons of the moral outcome are vastly outweighed by the pros granted by the non-moral one, why would anyone be moral?"
Such is the case with dating: if a guy can be honest or a smooth manipulator, and the latter gets women consistently, and the only penalty is she might find out he is a liar and leave him, why would he choose the former? Furthermore, what part does the women have in that situation? If she can tell that man is manipulating her but she likes and goes along with it, is she not complicit in facilitating immorality?Maybe if you stop chasing 'bad boy' men and choose to give the dudes you friendzoned a chance, maybe you'll see there are some moral men out there. You won't find moral men in places like bars, clubs or whatnot. You're so focused on the top 20% of men with many options and who are willing to exploit every opportunity (because they have an endless stream of them) than you miss out on the majority of men out there who actually have morals. But of course they aren't 'exciting' or the best looking for you, are they now?
Maybe if morality was rewarded by anyone it wouldn't be so rare. And it's certainly not rarer among men than women. At least not when it goes to actually act not just talk.
Morality reduce your chances with most things, compare to smart person with no such handicap. Unless you really do something unspeakable and get caught, it's not even punished. To get more morality we need to reward it. So you as a woman should really put that high on your dating standard. Higher than things like career, money which all are harder to aquire if you have morals on what you do.What you're REALLY asking is: "Why are there no men who embrace YOUR choice of morality?"
"Form follows function" -Frank Lloyd Wright
If your morals don't support YOUR survivability or provide 'real world' advantage,
WHY do YOU expend effort to espouse them?
WHO'S 'approval' are YOU seeking to curry? WHOM are YOU 'sucking up' to?
HOW does THEIR 'blessing' improve YOUR circumstances?
Does the effort YOU expend justify whatever the perceived benefit? Hm-m-m...I don’t think that’s right. I am lucky in life because I’ve met good men. No one is fully “good” or fully “bad”, we are a strange mix of both but…
I think you get what you give. Never have I been treated bad when I treated then nicely. Men want the love the same way we want and when in love, a right man will never cheat or hurt you.It's honestly not much better with women. But another problem is a lot of people don't get to know the person long or well enough to know if they do or not. So many judge and make assumptions, which may or may not be true. I find this behavior especially bad with women. I was talking to one online once, and she told me (after a very brief conversation and having never met in person), that "she had me all figured out" and knew exactly how I was and who I was as a person. You can't possibly know that ever about anyone, no matter your conversations, but there was no telling her that or convincing her otherwise. "SHE KNEW!".
Because the concept of Western morality has become a subjective statement or state of being, if a people can’t agree on societal norms, then there is no collective culture or morality. People, both men, and women will take the path of least resistance and this is why some perceive a lack of moral men (and women) in Western society.
CheersI believe there are plenty of moral people around.
If all you are meeting are immoral men you might want to look inside to see why you are attracting just immoral men.
Tony Robbins said that we attract in life by the stories we are telling ourselves. If the story we are telling ourselves is that there are no moral men then all we will meet are immoral men.Because they’re all Conservative or Republican/ Right wing? Liberal/leftist/democrat men have no morals. But we all know majority of women are leftist democrat and want nothing to do with right wing men. So I guess they just gotta make do with immoral men then 🤷🏻♂️ Too bad
You cannot generalize all men and say there are no moral men left. There are so many good men on this earth you would be surprised but if you really want to know good men and good people in general you will have to change your mindset we usually attract what we think and if you think men have no morals that's what you're attracting to yourself.
It depends on where you’re looking. Most decent guys who aren’t looking for a hookup aren’t going to hang out on dating apps, bars or clubs and no smart guy is going to make any moves at a workplace. If you have some groups of friends with siblings or a mixed group that is your best bet. You may have luck finding a guy at church, though if you aren’t particularly religious that isn’t really an option.
Because sadly, the rewards for moral men have fallen, (women going for amoral "Chads" and Hunks instead of moral "dweebs"), and the risks of acting morally, rather than "politically correctly" (sic) have risen. When something rewards less and pays off less, you get less of it.
There’s plenty of them. Your not looking in the right places. Many of them are tired of immoral women , or an immoral woman has turned them to be valueless. Although to be fair morality is different for many people. Im a moral man in that I have boundaries I won’t cross. Spiritually y’all would call me a pagan as I do not believe in the organized religions of the world. I believe in much more ancient things.
there are, they are just harder to find.
So many men & women were raised in the me generation, so to them it is all about what they want, and they weren't taught the meaning of no, they didn't keep score and now that they are older this is what we ended up with.Because nowadays jerks and assholes get more female attention than the moral family men.
I am in the minority of women who will never be attracted to the bad boy type.Maybe you’re looking in the wrong places… They’re still out there.
Moral is an ambiguous term since everyone has different morals.
To a religious person, an atheist maybe immoral but that doesn't mean either of them are automatically bad.
So there are still moral men, yes. If there are men with your same moral values, again probably yes, there's 7 billion people on this planet, surely there's someone that matches your moralsYou question lacks content and depth, but I suspect you've had some bad experiences. What do you mean by moral exactly? I consider my self morally strong. I treat women as equals and I'm a virgin who will only consider having sex within the context of a meaningful relationship with a woman.
It's not norm for men or women to have good morals, never will be since men and women are corrupt by nature.
There are good men out there with good morals but they are born again by the blood of Jesus Christ and follow God's set standard of righteousness.Oh their are plenty of them, some just don't care while others are tired of it. That and poor parenting along with why would anyone care about morals? Women for the most part don't, so why should men? is what a lot of guys are saying. Men/women change together, so if one changes than the other is not far behind because they need each other rather people wanna admit it or not.
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