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Why are men afraid of strong and feminist women?

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  • CaptainOverthink
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    Geez.. the shitstorm here..
    If I didn't know better I'd think questions like these are trollings to trigger people.
    But I also know it's not obvious.

    This is my superbiased opinion..
    Ofc I assume you mean, Not all men.
    Surely there are a few men both taken and trying. Some of those are attractive physically/mentally and some are not so much, but still strong. So some seep through your life unnoticed.

    Many weaker men that don't blindly hate (me included), might feel that someone that is strongly femenist may be too risky because it's usually harder to get away with mistakes.
    Or maybe we decide that treating you like a potential friend and/or just never make a move is the best way (keeping the door open). Thinking that if you are interested you have just as much of a responsibility to make a move as we do but since we're fine being friends too it'll be up to you.


    As for the flipside..

    Feminism is broad and nuanced (like all views and ideologies), it's like I usually say.. "There's nothing wrong with feminism, it's always the extremism".
    There are some points I do agree on, there are some I don't.
    Unfortunately the loudest voices are the ones that stick and usualky they are seldom thought through. Because of this and also because of some disregard from parts of the science/statistics and some conspiracy tendences by some.. femenism is stigmatized.

    It's easy to jump on the hate-train. Especially since many men also get targetet falsly for being clumbsy, inexperienced or misunderstood. Femenism get a lot of blame for many of these new trends and changes in how society works.

    It's usually also associated with very leftist ideologies. Thet have their own stigmas and nuances.. they are also (in my opinion) the cause of a lot of havoc in society now-a-days. OFC.. not all.
    Besides, everyone that disagrees are just letting it happen, we're all at fault.

    Not to mention..
    Internet and youtube-culture coupled with algorythms in social media and cookies tracking our preferences also skews the views of us all, feeding us the content most likely to confirm our own views.
    This means if you have trouble on the dating-market as a man chances are you'll be clicking a lot of red-pill-videoes.

    Then it's also the dating-apps adding to the problem. There are way less women on them than there are men and they promote massive biases and accessabilities.
    This is where we have the 20/80 rule. Most men, even if they are hot and swiping right on 80-100% will only get a few matches per week. Out of which some never respond and some are bots/scammers.

    Dating-apps are toxic to many men and makes us troubled.

    I think it's very easy to end up on a hate-train making excuses when our lives suck and modern life is filled with instant-gratification and bad learning habits.

    And finally, I think many vocal online people don't reflect the masses that are refraining to visit these types of forums like GAG.
    I am saying it takes certain types of individuals to sit and argue in the comment-sections online. So the broader assumptions are skewed.

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  • Datboi65
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    "Afraid" is not the word I would use. We just don't like a headache. Most men already deal with enough bullshit from the world at work or in school that they really don't have time to take immature behavior from a woman. That's what modern feminism is, immaturity and lack of awareness. What should I be forced to date someone I don't agree with and we clearly cannot see eye to eye on many issues?

    Then they have the audacity to try and "change" men. Last time I checked, I don't tell girls not to have trains ran on them, I just avoid those girls. Wow, common sense right? Maybe you should use that more often.

    I don't like feminism because men and women have different privileges and setbacks that they have to deal with because of their gender. Men are less agreeable, more assertive and dominant, so we are more qualified leaders, are taken more seriously and run society. On the flip side, nobody gives a damn about out emotions, we are more likely to be punished harsher for the same crime, and we really do not have a "plan B" approach for if we didn't make enough money like girls do when they sell their feet pics, so we are more likely to be homeless. Women are more protected physically and emotionally, are more likely to be given the benefit of the doubt, and are less likely to face severe punishment. However, they are less assertive and more agreeable, so they are less likely to have greater control over society.

    These differences are natural, and exceptions do exist, but exceptions don't make rules. Now have you ever seen a man complaining about having to be a bread-winner? About having to fight for his country? About protecting his wife and kids from an intruder? Why do women then complain about the perks of being a man, but have nothing to say when the ball is in their court and the benefit is theirs? Also, why do "independent career women" require their spouse to make more money than them if they are independent? Men don't care about a woman's money, and a man with money has more options, so he doesn't want a controlling woman with attitude problems, when he got many others waiting for him that are more agreeable and ready to join his program.

    You have to take the good with the bad. You get the kids after a divorce in 90% of cases and can get away with murder on some occasions, so I don't want to hear any complaints about "unequal treatment in the workplace".

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  • SkyCastle90
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    From what I've heard from some men, it's exhausting. At one point I even asked my fiancé what dating was like for him; he describe it as having to do a speech-check almost everyday and there's no peace.

    Feminism should be about the belief in social, economic, and political equality of both genders; yet it devolved into misandry, aggressiveness, and a need to feel in control; this weird think and act like a man, #Ifiwereaboy. In a way, I feel it's necessary. Wait, what? Yup, think about. Yeah, it's annoying, but thanks to these extremist and misguiding women falling into that mindset, it's making dating extremely chaotic for men. They have to worry about #metoo allegations, alimony, child support, etc; it forces them to think more carefully about who to date/marry or appreciate the good woman they currently have (or once had).

    Sadly, it's a double edge sword because you got men who get so angry they begin to hate women completely, or MGTOW; then you have the women who finally recover from their grind/etc and realize they're 36+ with no family to call their own and wondering why they can't find a good man.

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  • Seinna
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    Well, the natural way is that men should be stronger than women in relationships... but nowadays girls are raised to be strong and boys are raised to be weak. There's not that many strong men anymore to be able to put a cheeky woman in her place even if that's secretely what she wants :P Instead they'll cry about feminists and be intimidated by them... don't get me wrong, I think feminists are just hurting themselves in the end. But then they're the ones who raise their sons to cry and teaching them that they're special just the way they are and promote mediocricity XD And men instead of being the powerful force of change in a society just spend their life moping around and complaining about anything and everything. It's just a messed up situation all around.

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    • RandomGuy1030
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      Only when they are turned on do they want that. When their instincts are more heightened than their indoctrination

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    • Minahh
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      Why should men be the powerful force of change in society? They've made enough mess already.

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    • RandomGuy1030
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      @Minahh you sound low t

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    • VanillaSalt
      VanillaSalt
      +1 y

      Your so hated lmao. I agree with most of what you say if not completely with how you say it. I’m one of them men raised by “strong single women” and I’m def more feminine then I’m “supposed to be”.

      Something I think your not considering though is many men don’t understand what it means to be a man… and it’s not like there’s role models sitting around to copy. What happens when these men have kids with women? These women become jaded and single parents… more women and men angry. But also more men being left behind by society… even if they want to be better which I think honestly most men want purpose but can’t find it…

      So it effects society further down the line more and more. Divorce, promiscuity, single parents, abortion… just degrades society more… but freedom am I right?

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    • Seinna
      Seinna
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      @VanillaSalt hated by weak men who felt offended by being called weak? Yeah, remember I said girls are raised to be strong? :P I honestly don't care. I value and respect strength in men, always have and always will. Complaining about feminists while not recognizing their own power in society is just a little pathetic for me...

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    • VanillaSalt
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      @Seinna so much I want to say on this… Sure stoicism is a sign of strength in both men and women but does that mean your weak without it.

      I have faced life and death situations with calmness and logic and survived. I’m probably one of the most stubborn men you’ll know. I’m not body builder by any means but I can step up to my coworkers on the job site. What I lack in physical strength I make up for in ingenuity. I took a date to sea world few years back. Big ass guy steps up to the hammer game. Smack the plate to ring the gong ya know. 3 strikes $20. Dude gets upper 80 then 2 lower 90s…

      Long story short…

      drive.google.com/.../view?usp=drivesdk

      I’m stoic when it’s important but generally I wear my feelings more then I should… am I weak because of that alone? Are women weak because they PMS?

      If women never spoke up they would have no rights. There’s a group of feminists trying to take rights away from men. Look at the boys scouts. That was stolen from men because they couldn’t do what they wanted with the girls scouts. Right after the trans took over womens sports there’s irony for ya lol. You could argue men have no real rights in family court. Looking at statistics and society there’s an argument to be made burning feminists at the stake would improve society lmao

      Off topic though… men see you calling them weak for a moment of weakness. Drop me in the woods and I will probably never need to come back to society. Am I weak? By your standards yes. So yeah I’m offended.

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    • Seinna
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      @VanillaSalt oh you misunderstood me, I never meant physical strength. That's important too but what I had in mind is more along the lines of perseverance, willpower, bravery and decisiveness. An internal strength that makes a man a leader, not someone who cowers before a woman. It's a lot more difficult to be a high quality man than a high quality woman hence there's more of the latter (though feminists kind of balance it out) but men in history never accepted such a weak role in society. I'm not saying it's entirely men's fault, as I said boys are raised to be weak - but we desperately need strong men in our society. Including feminists. Seriously, they're not all blue haired activists. They appeared in response to a system that WAS oppressing women and yes it went too far, but there certainly are places in the world where feminism could do some good. Bottom line is women easily get sucked into leftists ideologies... but men should protect them from it like from the snake in the garden of Eden. I believe that the fall of a man is often due to not protecting women from themselves. And I hold that opinion because I'm not a feminist, because I really want to look up to men but nowadays people became too lazy and comfortable, they became complacent and conforming... yes, all people. But being conforming is a natural trait for women while it's negative for men because they're responsibility is to keep the rest of us safe. Men in the past (even generation of our parents and grandparents) were respected because their role was more difficult, it required strength (again, not necessarily physical though that too). We didn't stop needing their leadership.

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    • VanillaSalt
      VanillaSalt
      +1 y

      @Seinna I appreciate that wall of text. And overall I agree where we came from and how we got here…

      Let me ask you honestly… what should men that feel the system favors women too much do? Suck it up?

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    • Seinna
      Seinna
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      @VanillaSalt what they always did - fight

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    • RandomGuy1030
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      Does fighting mean crying and protesting

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  • Lliam
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    Because 'some' women who describe themselves as strong feminists have chips on their shoulders. They have inferiority issues, which makes them bitter. They want to prove that they are stronger than, not equal to, men. They try to dominate and make men feel small. In many ways, they are trying copy what they 'think' is male behavior because that's what they think it takes to gain respect and succeed. In doing so, they lose their femininity.

    I fully support equal opportunity for women. And I insist that they be treated with respect. I love confident, competent, plucky, motivated, hard working women who believe in themselves and who strive to achieve financial independence. I support sexual liberation for women. But having the ability to survive on their own doesn't have prevent them from celebrating their femininity or preclude their desire to bond with a man.

    Women can be all the things I described and also be feminine. Smart women can get what they want without acting like men or walking around with bad attitudes and sticks up their asses.

    It's not a matter of being afraid of feminists. It's matter of attraction. Odd as it may seem, men are attracted to femininity. They want a woman to look pretty; be soft, cuddly, and unaffected; do girly things like cry, giggle, smile, bounce on their tip toes when they are excited; put their little hand trustingly in his; press their body against his and lean her head against his shoulder; look up adoringly into his eyes; and feel safe and secure when she is with him. She will allow him to open doors and help her into their seat at a restaurant, even though she is perfectly capable of doing those things herself. It's the lady-gentleman game. She is graceful and demure, and enjoys being treated like a delicate flower. She appreciates his masculinity.

    A couple should have mutual regard, respect and admiration for each other. They should be a team who work together, support and trust each other. They can't do that if one of them distrusts or resents the opposite gender.

    Guys want a girl who is comfortable with her female body, is erogenous, loves to give blowjobs and get fucked silly by a man who makes her feel small and helpless. One doesn't get the feeling that "strong", militant feminists would ever submit themselves in such a way.

    In the end, why would a man be attracted to such a woman or put up with her shit?

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    • Lliam
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      I should have added that it's admirable for a woman to be commanding and even imposing at times. I think about a high powered lawyer or business exec. But she can do so while oozing femininity. And she can let her hair down when she it's in professional mode.

      I even think that feminine styles of leadership, though different, can be as effective as the male archetype. We need more of that.

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  • VanillaSalt
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    Did it ain’t that we’re afraid. It’s that we’re better off avoiding women like that. Feminism lol. What kinda man can’t get behind treating women like people? Their our mothers, sisters, nieces, aunts, grandmothers…


    The problem I have with todays feminism is… it’s a lie. It’s not about equality it’s about women’s rights. If you take 4 ways men surpass women and 2 ways women surpass men a feminist will fight for women's equality in the 4 ways their less then men and ignore the other 2 ways their superior. That’s the difference between being equal and being only about women's rights. If you can name one thing feminists fought for and won for men they didn’t benefit from I’ll take back every work I typed…


    I’m tired of women having every equality in existence and still expecting the luxury’s their afforded being women. If you ain’t watching the home rather then working you don’t deserve alimony. If a man gets arrested for hitting you then you should be arrested for hitting him. If men must register for the draft then so be it women can follow as well. We can die together! Too much equality?

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    • Ez-Bri-Z s
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      *lurks with popcorn*

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    • VanillaSalt
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      Damnit bri don’t make me slap you with my toxic masculinity lmao

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  • SomeGuyCalledTom
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    This is a loaded question, and not even an original one.

    For starters, what you define as a "strong feminist" woman is entirely subjective, and likely not a perception shared by the majority of men.

    Secondly, you're framing the question as of men being "afraid" of *your* defined version of "strong feminist women" is already a foregone conclusion.

    And thirdly, you're framing it as if "men" are a single homogenous group with this same so-called "fear" as a common denominator.

    For these reasons I consider you're question to be entirely anti-intellectual in its construction, and sp ai won't engage it directly. Instead, why don't you re-clarify the precise nature of your contention, and express that contention in a way that's not so loaded? Ask an original question, coz every feminist thinks they're oh so strong and independent and that men are afraid of those qualities; yet in reality they're often the most fragile people who crumble emotionally when faced with any dissenting opinion. My nan was one of the strongest women I ever knew, and she'd be laughing right now if she saw the state of modern feminists.

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    • TANMAN55555
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      Agreed
      This seems like one of those common phrases thrown around when people join new groups and haven't learned much about the topic

      Kinda like vitamin b17 curing cancer
      Its a prevalent belief because people spread the rumor without investigating it critically

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  • MrOracle
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    Most men aren't afraid of them at all - just completely disinterested. They literally have nothing to offer a man but hassles and drama, something most men go out of their way to avoid.

    If you want to be "strong and independent", great. But if you want to have a relationship with a man, you will have to compromise and sacrifice, just like men do, and since feminists refuse to do that, they can go be strong and independent alone.

    The insane notion that women can abandon all compromise and responsibility and civility in the name of Feminism, but still enjoy the privileges and benefits of a traditional relationship is laughable. Men don't want relationships with such women - except for the weak, submissive feminist men, but we know damn well that you want nothing to do with those men anyway.

    You were sold a package of lies, and by following them, you will end up alone. Sure, you can still get male attention as long as you are young and bangable, but once you hit your mid-30s, you will find that even that attention is drying up. I have a godmother and an aunt who are feminists, and they have both been alone (and miserable) for 40 years. No one enjoys their company. Both survive on the backs of their children, who they guilt and manipulate into supporting them, and would be homeless otherwise.

    This generation of feminists have no children, so they will truly learn what it is to be alone...

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    • VanillaSalt
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      Like many men already know. But men are used to it now and our “toxic masculinity” lets us suffer alone farm longer and in better shape than any woman lol.

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    • Jkyutipi
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      Ummm... You have zero clue what feminism is. Zero. You're not explaining feminists. You're explain bitches. There are plenty of feminist and non feminist bitches, but you're definitely describing bitches not feminists.

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    • VanillaSalt
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      If the loudest proportion of your groups insane and are not called out my the sane members then… their all insane.

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    • Jkyutipi
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      None of what you said made sense logically or grammatically

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    • VanillaSalt
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      Sorry me stupid like caveman. Me make easy. Let’s say you have a bunch of apples. There’s 100 apples in this bunch but the top 10-15 you see are rotten… are you gonna buy from that bunch? 1 bad apple makes the whole bunch appear rotten.

      Ide also like to point out the irony of a woman downplaying mens suffering while under the banner of an organization that fought to have women’s issues taken seriously…

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    • Jkyutipi
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      So... Women are apples now?

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    • Jkyutipi
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      I mean, by your logic, you're a dick, so all men are dicks? Good thing I'm gay

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    • VanillaSalt
      VanillaSalt
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      Women: Don’t infantilize women!
      Also women: ^ that kinda stupid shit.

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    • Jkyutipi
      Jkyutipi
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      Okay boomer

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    • VanillaSalt
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      Ok groomer

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  • TwinTonyz
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    Some earmarks for typically feminist women:
    Men have privileges and women don't.
    Men are a threat to women.
    Women are brave, strong, and powerful.
    Women are deserving of implicit trust.

    There is a clear imbalance in how men and women are perceived by typical feminist agents. Dig deeper and it's easy to see why men tend to be disinterested in, and threatened by, feminism. Plainly, it offers them nothing but a harder time in life.

    Women largely assume life as a man is a cake walk. Why? The only men visible to them are those useful for their ideology. By those terms, feminists tend to do next to nothing to improve men's situation. They see men as being needing to be fixed, not helped. On the other side, they use any means necessary to help women. What's the difference? Framing. Fixing a man means telling him how bad he is and threatening him with fiscal or social ruin if he doesn't change. Helping a woman means teaching her that anything bad she's doing is because of the male-gaze, gender roles imposed by men, systems built by men. This application of equality points to one sex for all their problems.

    I am in a relationship with a woman who calls herself a feminist, but the more I've discussed the idea of feminism with her, the more her beliefs are waning. She was completely blind to the idea that men and women have benefits inherent to their roles in society. As much as she loves the idea of doing everything herself without my support, because women don't need men, she'd rather I don't just ignore her struggles the way her movement ignores mine. Supporting her when she needs it is just about the least feminist thing I do. To be a good feminist boyfriend, I really should neglect her more.

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  • Phoenix98
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    I’m not afraid of them I just find most of them annoying and toxic and am just mainly disinterested in them.

    And before someone brings it up I do know the difference between what genuine feminism is and what most people who call themselves feminists are. The problem is that most people who identify as feminists are the latter and not the former.

    also someone who constantly has tell the world that they’re strong and independent is neither. If your genuinely strong and independent people will see that through your actions and how you carry yourself as an individual. You don’t have to say a thing.

    if you have to always explain and tell that to people it’s because your trying to reassure yourself that it’s true. Instead they just complain and make themselves out to be victims. Instead showing themselves for what they are weak victims.

    If your not a victim don’t act like one and if you are one then stop bitching and become strong enough to not be one. It’s that simple.

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  • pass_the_celery98
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    Modern day feminism is an extreme ideology. I have gone to feminist protests and when I saw young women bashing men and booing men, I left. Since that day my mind was made up. Any girl reading this can dislike my comment. But girls/women if they have one bad experience it can change the outlook of their perspective as well.

    I am not intimidated by a strong, independent woman. But just like how guys can be physically strong and have a cocky persona. Girls/women can be “strong” with life overall and have a bitchy/rude persona, and that’s something I won’t tolerate.

    Someone can be mentally strong in life, hard working, or physically strong or all 3 of those traits. And still be nice, honest, calm and civil. I’m done following ideologies…capitalism, feminism, and other ism-based ideologies. Just because people think it’s 2022 and we need a billion ideologies of what defines this world. If we have evolved so much then why are more people miserable then ever before? Why are marriages and relationships something not seen with high regard, the list goes on.

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  • Julie4
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    Are you talking about "modern feminists?


    I don't understand today's feminists. what is the end goal? Do they want equality or benefits for being just women.


    Let's take an example of companies going to choose a woman for a position just because she is a woman, there is exactly the same thing with sexual minorities, ethnic minorities, etc. In this case the feminists did not obtain equality but a superiority just for being born a woman. If this is the society that feminists want, then they deserve nothing but contempt. It doesn't matter how much they will make it seem like their fight is right.


    In the end, for me, such a society would be a regression for women. I prefer obtained a work or rewards compared to my qualities and not with my sex.

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  • NovaCourier
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    It depends what kind of feminism you're talking about. Proper feminism = equality = good and I have nothing but respect for the overwhelming majority of women I know. Almost all of my classmates are female and they're all genuinely lovely people.

    Now, there's that common saying that modern feminism is just man hating and is making women entitled and toxic. I do think that extreme feminism has increased, largely thanks to social media, but there is a caveat there. It usually works the other way around. Women who are already toxic people use feminism to disguise their entitlement as activism, and so justify their own behaviour to themselves. Young, impressionable women see this sort of thing and some may be subconsciously influenced by it. Meanwhile, young men see it and end up thinking that this is simply what feminism is, so they end up being fearful of women who seek or have power because they've learned to associate them toxic behaviour.

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  • ering987
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    I don't think they are afraid of feminists. I think maybe they hear feminist and that translates to drama and guys are simple. My boyfriend was called a male pig because he held a door for a woman he was verbally abused by her in public and all he did was shrug his shoulders and tell her he hopes her day gets better. I asked him "didn't that bother you? doesn't that make you feel bad?" He said "Nope, I held the door for the mom and her kid, the old couple, and the guy with the cake, It's not about anybody's personal crusade for whatever they believe in , it's just called being polite, The only way to equality is through ignorance, we must ignore color, sex, and looks and just be decent to each other and take each other for who we are. I do hope her day gets better but I think that me telling her that probably pissed her off more."

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    • VanillaSalt
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      All men should strive to be like your husband. Congrats.

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    • ering987
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      @VanillaSalt we're not married but he is def a good man

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  • Oigit
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    A strong person does not need to show or tell people they are strong. That is something that some feminist women and alpha men don't understand. People who have to show or tell people who they are tend to do it to cover up character flaws or insecurities. Hoping that people will be so caught up with how strong they are they will not take a deeper look at them. So it's not that I'm afraid of them. I'm simply do not like to about people who can't take ownership of themselves. Because it means accepting their flaws.

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  • TANMAN55555
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    If im being honest
    Guys collectively see these “strong women” as not being easy to talk to and often quick to jump to arguements.
    I dont care if you believe in this or that
    But if someone says “im a strong woman and a feminist and guys are afraid of me because of that”

    Its a huge red flag that we generally have learned to stay away from these people because they often pull out disrespectful talk during disagreements. The view guys have is that these people are not very nice when you have differing opinions and they may also be controlling.
    Men aren't afraid they just know that women that declair themselves these political identities are often people they want to be around. A lot of toxicity surrounding that phrase. Plus the ideal woman is one that is ambitious and tough
    Its not being strong nor caring about ones rights thats the problem
    Its the people that incorrectly define themselves as strong rather than being an asshole

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  • globetrotter22
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    Men are not “afraid” of strong and truly independent women. When I say “truly” independent i mean she didn’t take advantage of any special entitlement programs and/or hiring quotas that are available for women but not for men.

    We actually respect and appreciate such women. It’s attractive. I have a former girlfriend who was like this and I loved her for it. I still miss her to this day.

    However men are ANNOYED (not afraid) of women who take advantage of the victim card to get special societal leeway, leniency on being antagonistic/disrespectful towards other men/women and last but not least hypocrites for taking advantage of traditional male chivalry (accepting free meals, favors, friendzoning, etc) while still crying victim.

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  • jabariw18
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    I don't think men are "afraid" of them. It's just that they tend to make mountains out of molehills and have unrealistic expectations of what men can say/do without immediately being stamped with the "misogynistic womanizer" banner. It's kinda the same thing when dealing with LGBTQ community. I remember someone got offended when I said "A penis is a male organ." Claiming it was an overgeneralization. Feminists tend to do the same stuff. I remember a girl asked me to send her nudes and when I did and asked her to send some in return she refused and when I got upset about it, she thought that it's misogynistic of me to try to tell her what to do with her body.

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  • LogicBomber
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    “Strong” women are very rare. It’s easy to claim you are strong in a society that caters to your every whine. Provides for and protects you. Removes all major obstacles from your path and assists you how ever it can to make your life easier.

    Feminism is simply a hate group of misinformation and false victim narratives.
    EVERYTHING claims exists can easily be proven false when you look outside it’s echo chamber.

    So to answer your question;
    Men are NOT afraid of strong women. They rarely exist. But when they do, no one has an issue with them. There is also a huge difference between entitled ignorant bitch and strong. Which many “strong women” think are the same.

    Men are also not afraid of feminist. We simply see the parasitic nature of their actions (not their words) and know they are poison. So we avoid them.

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    • maverick2022
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      Somebody give this man an award. 🏅

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  • lrina
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    ok you, or one of your alts or whoever else, made like 10 posts about this already. no one's afraid of them lmao, i think most people who just like them to shut the hell up.

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    • Guardian45
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      You're wise beyond your years, kiddo!

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    • Wraith_Cemetery
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      @Guardian45 She's one of the most enlightened girls on this bloody website. A lot of the older women on here are ignoramuses.

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    • Dburns1268
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      I've preached about this for years. Being a woman, I hate feminism and speak out about it to anyone who will listen. My very best friend, who is a male, gets me going about it when feminist women are around. They're always shocked!! Feminists, shut the hell up and maybe try to help your man, not hinder him!!!

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    • lrina
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      @Dburns1268 couldn't have said it better myself!!

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  • BluishGaze
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    Feminism had a good run.

    We either need to allow it to rest in peace, or someone has to reclaim it from the mainstream and restore it to its former glory. Even then, women today already have their rights, and they are prospering. At least in most places of the world. If feminism insist on existing, they ought to focus their attention on countries where women are still suffering sexism and quit trying so hard to keep the movement on life support by making it intersectional and throwing in the "wage gap" and the "pink tax."

    And It's not that we're afraid of them, generally speaking. It's just that their idea of what a "strong woman" is... kind of hurts women.

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  • jestergent
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    Afraid isn't the right word. Sounds.. feminist.

    We just aren't into it. You need to be a desperate man to bypass the feminism filter and hookup with her. I'd say more along the lines of extreme feminism.

    If your womans rights, that's okay. Might want to change feminism to womens rights supporter. (it just sounds better).

    'Strong' /.. Independent woman.. because strong means attach the other two words even if you left it out..

    What that means is you don't want to listen and be right 'all the time'.

    whispering: its a big turn off.
    hint: doesn't activate our turned on glands.

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  • Dburns1268
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    I'm a woman and TOTALLY disagree and preach against feminism. A woman has a place in the relationship... but she's not a servant. She's a team mate and should act as such. I've got a whole soapbox but won't get on it here!!!

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  • TonyV
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    New age feminist aren't really feminist, they don't want equality, they want to be better and on too cause they hate men.
    Literally everything a man does is an issue to them, hell we can't even sit down without them yelling patriarchy. They letter get mad that we "man spread " sorry sweety but men have balls and I'm not crushing them just so can see my knees touch.

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  • SnakeBoop
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    meh, they're more afraid of the feminazis who give the movement a shit name.
    that and some are just over sexist pigs who can't handle a woman being able to say no to them.

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    • Birdlegs
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      Like I have no issue with strong women not one bit but strong and feminist are definitely not the same thing to me. The feminist movement needs to be completely overhauled I believe whatever it is now is not true feminism. And the ones who are EXTREMELY feminist are the ones I would like to avoid.

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    • SnakeBoop
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      Yes. So like I said. Feminazis.

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    • TANMAN55555
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      Yeah pretty much just the feminazis
      They ruin it for everyone

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  • jasco
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    I don't fear you, its just some of y'all remind me of dudes and I just don't feel comfortable around someone who acts more like a man than an actual woman. I am perfectly find if that someone has control of their aggressiveness and can use it to their advandtage but I don't want a man as a wife. Usually the ones who call themselves strong and independant are kinda bitchy. Why do you need to say it if you know its true. You don't need to prove it to anyone but your boss.

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  • Wester1967
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    They're not "afraid" , it's just not appealing. Most modern feminists have too much masculine energy. WAAAAY too much. Too much dik envy or worse. There's nothing to be afraid of, just not attracted. Unless she's a butch and might beat me up. Then maybe I'd be afraid.

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  • Wraith_Cemetery
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    This stupid annoying question again?

    We're not afraid of you. There's nothing "scary" about feminists. They're mostly self-obsessed, unintelligent, biased, sheepish, bull-headed, ignorant, and weak.

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    • LovingLoverReturned
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      I like that you said mostly and not all. I'm no feminist but I believe in balance.

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    • Wraith_Cemetery
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      @LovingLoverReturned Well, there are some feminists out there who actually respect and acknowledge what the women of the past had done for them. They want to continue that legacy. I have nothing against such women.

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    • LovingLoverReturned
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      nice

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  • DermalPunch
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    I think they just find them annoying and a bit deluded.

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    • DermalPunch
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      As do I.

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  • DudeDiligence
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    It depends what you mean by "strong". Men are not scared of confident and capable women, but they don't like women with bad personalities and bad attitudes who have a chip on their shoulder and don't know how to or don't want to treat a man well. A lot of women seem to think that is being strong. It's not.

    My girlfriend is a strong (in the true sense) woman and she can't stand feminists. Need I say more?

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  • Manab
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    I like them but most of the time have bad experiences with them, so probably will try to avoid them from dating.
    1. A proud feminist who sleeps around with many men but always blames men for failed relationships
    2. I have met a proud feminist who posts strong independent stuff on Facebook but puts false rape cases against men..
    3. Proud feminists who hate men and blame men for everything as one ex was bad to her. She was complaining to me how all men are pathetic and want the same. I didn't even have one relationship back then.
    4. Proud feminist who thinks badly of women of color or with low income.
    and more...
    Actually, very few strong independent feminist women are genuine. Somehow older women use hose keywords more for their restrictive dating choices than before...

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  • StuMan1990
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    Because they feel intimated by strong and feminist women, but in all honesty I like such women, they bring out the best out of themselves and others, they're not afraid to speak against any stereotype men who try objectifying women, and they are pretty decent people.

    My advice to people who find strong or feminist women intimidating, don't feel that way, they are still people and you can have a positive relationship with them if you work on it.

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  • marish01
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    Strong and feminist?
    Lol most feminists are weak, bitter and insecure bitches

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  • Andres77
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    Strong women? Not afraid at all. My mom , wife, daughters are strong women. I'm all for equality as well. If I love them why wouldn't I want the best for them? And that goes for any woman.

    Femenists? Also, not afraid.
    Do you mean the manhating militant bullies?
    They're just clowns that feel entitled to more than they've a right to. Disgusting parasites. Just like long-term welfare leeches.

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  • RealMarek
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    There is a difference between a strong woman and an ideological woman. I avoid women, whether or not they call themselves feminist, who have ideological beliefs motivated by resentment of men. I’m not afraid of them, I just want a healthy relationship.

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  • Lionman95
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    I would call it afraid guys just tend to avoid them because they make us feel that they need and want to have a man around them. So what´s the point of being in a relationship with a person that shows and tells you that she neither appreciates nor acknowledges what you do.

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  • Kaamraj
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    I wouldn't say afraid, but avoid, then yes sure. What you claim as "strong" and "independent" are opposite of feminine, something which is innately desired by men. Secondly, the modern definition of "feminism" has little to do with the original feminist movement, which advocated the freedom of choice. The modern interpitation of feminism is something which is inherently against the best interests of men.

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  • genericname85
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    Again this same Frasing... Every time women use the word "afraid" in this context. Don't you think there's other reasons for not pursuing something in life other than being afraid of it?

    Or is it that you are scared to find out that men just don't like boss ass women very much and you would prefer to be liked by men, so you basically project your emotional state on men?

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    • VanillaSalt
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      Phrasing*

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    • genericname85
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      @VanillaSalt yeah

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  • Berethor
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    Because they consider her too masculine and/or because she prefer career over family.

    https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NoGuyWantsAnAmazon

    https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CareerVersusMan

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  • MCheetah
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    That's like asking "Why are people afraid of dog sh*t and vomit on the streets?"
    You're a troll and this question has been asked before.

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    • Exterminatore
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      😂😂😂😂

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  • Petermorgan3434
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    Afraid. No. Don't like yes, Men like to be gentlemen. Not yelled at for being a gentleman. There is a reason most men dont go for feminist women, Because lately it has gone farther than equal rights which are well deserved, and to the point where a man can't have chivalry without being shamed for it

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  • alice55
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    They're afraid of the headache they're going to get if they date them cause feminist spend their time arguing all the time.

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  • supercutebutt
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    Because some are kinda scary looking.
    Because some are kinda scary looking.
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    • EzNamirimEzDibirim
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      🤣🤣😘

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    • Guardian45
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      To the point as ever, SCB!

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    • EzNamirimEzDibirim
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      @Guardian45 what's the mean SCB?

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    • Guardian45
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      @EzNamirimEzDibirim. SuperCuteButt.

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  • NailPolishLover
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    Men don't like evil, because to christain men and women. Feminism is based off an evil woman named Jezabel. She was an evil woman who lived, and died as a spirit. This scaries many men away, from truly equality. As they don't want to become, Jezebel herself. I honestly can't blame them. I know there are women want equality and this is good for both men and women. I love doing some things that girls do.

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  • David_Kek
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    Who said feminist women are strong? They're the mentally weakest and most paranoid women you'll find. The men which are afraid of feminists, are afraid of them because they're mentally unhinged women that hate and fear men for merely existing. Mentally unhinged people that are full of hate are dangerous.

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  • Squaresquirrel
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    I'm a woman and I'm afraid of feminists. Why? Most of them I encountered were batshit crazy.

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  • Exterminatore
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    It’s not a matter of fear it’s a matter of disdain. I don’t know any men who are afraid of 300 lb lesbian hogs. They’re easy to loose. If you walk more than 25 yards quickly they can’t catch you. Not being able to walk more than 25 yards quickly without hyperventilating doesn’t inspire fear.

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  • AvaOneLasTime
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    As far as I can tell, they are not afraid. They are just not psychologically attracted.

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  • lightbulb27
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    there's something to being femine that feels good.

    nothing wrong with strong and confident, nothing wrong with fighting for your rights and equal pay.
    but there's got to be some roles to play, give and take. Without that... who are we?

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    • VanillaSalt
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      Individuals without society?

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    • lightbulb27
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      @VanillaSalt say what?

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    • VanillaSalt
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      Society without sacrifice is just individuals.

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  • ODC2112
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    If women were tuly strong, they would not complain and would not constantly make victims. However some women think they are strong when they are actually assholes and act like assholes when assholes are men.

    Feminism is a collectivized narcissistic movement that talks about equality when it wants domination, is made up of girls who have never grown up. If feminists were for equality they would be anti-sexist, but they are not. Thery are only sexist against males.

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  • Guanfei
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    We're not afraid, only annoyed. Because they're gigantic bitches who live through their hate of men. All they do is complain, make up issues and blame it on men, and consider themselves superior.
    Why would I like someone who openly shit in my face?

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  • Aakash_Hangargi
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    Too much naging , judging and lots of drama.

    Every move even which is not misogynist or something is still seen as crime unless the guys do as they are told to.

    No freedom also don't want to hit my head to walls for the self conditioning people no use they chose there paths.

    Strong women are very much respected and appreciated but not the women who think they themselves are strong but really are only arrogant and ignorant and think every guy is beneath them.

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  • NamerOfStars
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    For the same reason they're afraid of KKK members. An organization openly expresses its hatred of you and desire to see you dead, if not kill you itself, and not only doesn't get social censure, but outright applause? You'd be afraid, too.

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  • t-8900
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    Feminists are a joke. They're not scary they are a political punching bag. Quick someone call Steven Crowder for another feminist change my mind. 🤡😂

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  • TexasRed95
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    I'm not. They are simply annoying and I don't like to be around them. They lack reason and the ability to discuss a topic logically. They also misinterpret opinions as facts. You have to be willing to listen and change your mind about opinions. And lastly there is no reason to harbor hate simply because someone thinks differently.

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    • Jkyutipi
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      You just described hating someone because they think differently while describing why people other than you shouldn't do that. You have no clue what a feminist is. Zero. But then, hey... Texas explains it all

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    • TexasRed95
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      I never said I hate anyone. I simply don't like being around many feminists. All the ones I have met around here want to be above everyone. Not equality.

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    • Jkyutipi
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      There's a big misconception among mostly conservative white males that allowing women to enjoy some of the huge benefits men have had over the years is somehow "being above." In reality, cis het white conservative males tend to see anything that isn't exactly as its always been as an overreach. Omg a woman wants to be out of the kitchen? HOW DARE SHE TRY TO TAKE OVER MY LIFE? The amount of feminists who want to be superior to men are the vocal minority and comprise less than 10%, I would say even less than 5% of actual feminists.

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    • TexasRed95
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      Look you are taking this the wrong way. I know what real feminism is and I do support it. My father walked out on us when I was a teen and I had to help support my mother and sister for years. I am simply saying the only ones I have been around are the ones with a flawed agenda.

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    • Datboi65
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      @Jkyutipi See, I was reading this as an observer, until you said "cis het white males" ans that caught my attention. I'm not a conservative, neither am I a "white male". I'm a black man, and I do NOT support feminism. I am also not coming to the defense of this guy either, I just think it's funny you think that minority men cannot have the same opinion with regards to feminism, and that we are somehow wrong if we do. Feminism has DESTROYED my community. 77% of black children are born out-of-wedlock, meanwhile 52% of black men are single and childless. Women are creating babies with few men, and then they have the audacity to say "black men ain't shit". Welfare has kicked the black father out of the house, children are being weaponized by women to get their way, divorce is upwards of 60% and the list goes on. Before you even bring up domestic violence and abuse, black men and Black women face it at similar values at 40% and 45% respectively, the smallest gap between genders in all ethnicities. We also know men have a tendency to underreport, so it can be higher.

      Finally, if that was the "vocal minority", why don't we see feminists speak up against misandry in higher numbers? The black community isn't even a patriarchy, it's run by women, and I see them bashing black men like we somehow have control over society. If that's not misandry, I don't know what's not. Since you are an Asian woman, a form of misandry in your community is when Asian women degrade Asian men and worship white men, wouldn't you agree? Then why is the critique of that rhetoric not as common as the rhetoric itself? I will leave that up to you to answer.

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    • Jkyutipi
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      A lot to unpack here. First. Malcolm X, MLK, Nat Turner, Thurgood Marshall, Barack Obama, Muhammad Ali, Bayard Rustin, Jesse Jackson... that's just off the top of my head thinking about influential activists for African Americans. But here's the thing, I can think of more black women than men who have been influential, so then why are their names stifled except the notable exceptions? Patriarchal oppression. Feminism has absolutely not destroyed black communities. To say so is to completely minimize and cast systemic racism aside like it's nothing. These stats you're quoting are meaningless in this conversation. It's not feminism that creates the imbalance and attitudes in these communities. It boils down to lack of opportunity, apathy, trickle down economics, and the unwillingness of those in power to recognize the mistakes they continue to make. I'm gonna leave race out of it for a moment and just say those in power.

      Those in power have created a structure in this country in which the more money you have, the less you have to care about those without. Those in power are still stuck in the "black is unsightly and needs to be hidden" mindset. They don't look at black communities and see they are the problem, they look at black communities and point the finger and pull the wool over people's eyes, and it looks like you're a victim. This isn't just black communities, but impoverished communities, of which, blacks make up a disproportionate amount... because of those in power, not because of feminism.

      Why are there so many out of wedlock babies born? Well, there's no incentive to change that. Marriage traps people and ties assets together, and many don't know about prenups or can afford a lawyer to draw them.

      They've made it so that breaking the poverty cycle is so hard that the best alternative is to turn to crime because it pays better and you don't have to pay taxes on it. That's where lack of opportunity comes into play.

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    • Jkyutipi
      Jkyutipi
      +1 y

      I could go on, but the character limit won't let me. Tldr is that saying feminism killed black communities is about as accurate as saying weebs don't have hard ons for Japanese girls like me

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    • Datboi65
      Datboi65
      +1 y

      @Jkyutipi You can think of more? Then name them. See, here is the problem with you. You took my quote and assumed that I meant that racism didn't play a part. Like I said, I am not a Candace Owens type Black conservative, so I don't play by the rules. Racism is a disease that has existed in American society, and White supremacy is the cause of a lot of the issues black people experience. I'm aware of that. I'm also aware that feminism is a form of white supremacy. Before you started to lecture me about my own people, you should've done a little Google search in that the original feminists were against the inclusion of the negro population in the vote, because they didn't want quote "inferior men" to have control over them. White women and their fake accusations against black men is a form of GENDERED RACISM (google that term). Amy Cooper or "central park Karen" was a self-proclaimed liberal woman that called the police on a black man saying that he threatened her life. Google that too. Feminism enabled it. Women can get away with lies and accusations, especially if those accusations are pointed towards a black man. I'm not sure if you know what "patriarchal oppression" means, when 67% of Black households are run by single mothers. It has less to do with systemic racism and more to do with choice at this point, because the MAJORITY of Black men have NO children. Go read that again. Systemic racism is section 8 housing, lack of job opportunities and low quality education, not bad choices in dating partners. Abortion is a choice, yet majority of kids are born out-of-wedlock. Your body your choice, right?

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    • Datboi65
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      @Jkyutipi Also, correction. Marriage traps MEN not WOMEN. 80% of divorces are initiated by women, and in most cases they win custody of children, receive alimony and take more than their share in the assets. Women have everything to gain from a marriage, yet they are hesitant to get married. They aren't hesitant to make babies with random men though. Men that grow up with no father are more likely to become criminals, did you know that? It doesn't help the racist image that existed about black men from before, and now because of confirmation bias people can just go and say that it is true. Feminism is not black people's business, but white women decided to make it their business, the same black women that lied about Emitt Till and got Tulsa burned down to ashes. They don't care about you or your community either. If society loses its social fabric and we become less of a unit due to individualism driving men and women further a part, then what incentives does it give people to then care about racism if there is no community? If there are no loyalties, why should we care about each other? My problem with women who identify first with their gender before their ethnicity, is that they are agents of white supremacy. It be the same women that will throw a black man in jail. Go read up the story of Brian Banks.

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    • Jkyutipi
      Jkyutipi
      +1 y

      Good God, once a man decides to hate women, there's just no talking sense into them. Have fun believing that women need to be subjugated and be property, and I genuinely hope you never get to project that onto someone and destroy their chances at autonomy

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    • Datboi65
      Datboi65
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      @Jkyutipi Huh? Have you read anything of what I said? Where did I say that I "hate women"? Feminists have a victimhood complex that if somebody disagrees with them, it must mean that they automatically "hate women". What kind of bullshit argument is that? I said that feminism = white supremacy, and your conclusion is that "this negro hates women". You can't make that shit up!

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    • Jkyutipi
      Jkyutipi
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      Imagine actually thinking that feminism is the cause of black poverty. You can't make that shit up. Imagine thinking feminism is only for white people. You can't be anti feminist and not hate women. You can't relegate more than half the earth population to the kitchen and being subservient without hating said population. Feminism is the EQUAL TREATMENT of women. Period. Anyone thinking it's about superiority is misguided at best and disingenuous at worst.

      That's literally like saying "I'm against inclusion, but that doesn't mean I'm racist."

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    • Datboi65
      Datboi65
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      @Jkyutipi Hold up, wait a minute. Did I say anything about women and the kitchen? My mother is a pharmacist, so you can sit your ass down. I disagree with feminism in the 21st century, because it's more about superiority than inclusion. The question was about men avoiding "strong feminist women" with regards to dating, and homie said why he doesn't like them. My thing with this is when you said that "cis het conservative white males" and I'm here to tell you that black men don't support it either, for the most part. Once again, I already told you that housing discrimination and section 8, lack of job opportunities and lack of quality education played a part, but LACK OF FATHERS isn't something I can blame the white man for. Most black men are productive, matter of fact 64% are middle class and 10% are making upwards of 6 figures. Black men on average make $42k USD, $9k behind white men and the gap is closing down. Violent crime has been going down, and incarceration has plummeted. Despite all of that, only 16% of the men in our community make 77% of the babies. How is that hating on our women? Accountability is important. I come from a traditional black household, and I will only date/marry a black woman, nothing else. My mother worked as well, but she always came home and prepared the food for the rest of the family. She always took care of us and never complained. My father worked longer hours and would sometimes miss lunch and have food at work since he had a double shift. I care more about my community than these white supremacists telling us what we should and shouldn't believe as black people. Your community is the most married of all other demographics, so don't come over here and lecture black folks on what tf they should believe in. Don't bring up race discussions if you can't have them, and if you disagree with someone's opinion, do not bring up their ethnicity like you did with the other guy.

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  • AydenHazor
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    I think most guys are afraid of losing the advantage they have from the patriarchal society we live in, which advantage they will proceed to deny whilst being paid more than their female colleagues with the same experience and getting away with sexually harassing whomever they want amongst other disgusting behavior they chalk up to being masculine.

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    • connemara_crocodile
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      Tell me one job where a man and a woman are doing the same tasks and one getting paid more than the other

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    • VanillaSalt
      VanillaSalt
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      I feel ya… it’s gotta suck giving your balls over to your gf… don’t worry about it though ya still a man… well at least your not a birthing person but man might be a stretch.

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    • VanillaSalt
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      @connemara_crocodile USWNT! Oh wait sorry got that mixed up their actually paid more then men…

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    • AydenHazor
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      https://www.dol.gov/agencies/wb/data/occupations

      Department of labor has a tool where you can look through as many jobs as you want and see the gender pay gap. Use the drop down to look at any given profession and you'll see the percentage of men and women in the future and the median wage if men and women in the field

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    • connemara_crocodile
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      @AydrnHazor that is not telling me how that data is being collected.

      It's very easy to draw a diagram with only one variable.
      Is seniority being taken account in each case? Years of experience? Time in that position? Certifications and proven skills? I don't see any of that.

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    • VanillaSalt
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      +1 y

      Now use your cute little tool, no not that tool pervert, and find the difference between the average number of hours worked between the sexes. Full time is calculated by either 32, 34, or 36+ hours… it does not include overtime worked…

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    • connemara_crocodile
      connemara_crocodile
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      @VanillaSalt another valid point

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  • zyxacb
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    Cuz they often ridicule men - "strong" itself implies force & my experience is many of these women aren't as eager to learn about disagreeable (to them) points of view as to lecture & use for to "correct" those they determine in error, exposing latent arrogance - not that this is every woman but, addressing your question, men are scared of the stereotype/common habits of strong feminist women.

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    • LovingLoverReturned
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      Those traits sound high on the Machiavellianism scale of which Psychopaths and Narcissists emerge.

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    • zyxacb
      zyxacb
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      @LovingLoverReturned social media is popular for a reason, study history, you'll discover humanity's track record for selfless empathy is not exceptional... many people can't even respect a political opponent sharing an opposite point of view w/o treating them less than the lowliest form of life, w/o any value/right to live, nor attempt to first approach that individual's POV w/ desire to understand (empathize) simply because they EXPRESSED, a disagreeable view to that individual... those traits do sound like Machiavellianism, but, again, few go on social media (overwhelmingly popular & addictive) with primary focus of "what value can I add to another's life today" over to indulge their own emotional needs, wants, and desires... it's life.

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  • This_Is_My_Opinion8
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    As you can see here people here confuse feminist with, putting it mildly, a horrible person who wants to chop our dicks off.

    Any woman, feminist or not, that isn't submissive and doesn't need us for anything besides love care and companionship will be threatening to some men.

    Now if you add feminist, their brain will go into overdrive because they confuse feminist with misandrist.

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  • bamesjond0069
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    My girlfriend is a strong girl. She has to deal with feminists harassing her non stop on facebook and in real life about being a homemaker to a man 16 years older than her. Smh.

    Feminists aren't scary they just have no dating value, at all. They aren't good girlfriends or wives or mothers. I mean bang one for a one night stand if you must but they aren't good for anything else.

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  • Hardman23
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    Feminist women are intolerable to be around. Entitled, disagreeable, and constantly suffering from an inferior complex, only other feminists can stand them. Nobody's afraid of them. They're just really fucking annoying.

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  • HighValue
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    Feminist women are the weakest women mentally. They can't handle actual "equality" and only want preferential treatment. They are also very sexist and dishonest. Nobody should want or respect any of them.

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  • connemara_crocodile
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    Xper 6 Age: 34 , mho 39%
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    Because (most of then) are so into their cause they will never be happy and will fight every single thing they can, even if it's not there.

    We're not afraid, we just don't want to lose our time.

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  • Xhuy_006
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    Not at all. Its just most females that label themselves as feminists are usually cringey af. Like yay good for you, its 2022 look no one gives a shit. Be happy, be healthy, just don't shove it down anyones throat, you're not a dick. Lol get it? :D

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  • FreyaRed
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    Guru Age: 24 , mho 42%
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    Men love responsible and feminine women. Strong feminists don't really fit in this definition.

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