Why do women have this weird assumption and project that men supposedly fear "strong and independent women"?

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I can't speak for other men, but I avoid women who self-proclaims to be "strong and independent" not because I "fear" them or any of that nonsense projection from some women but because from my personal experience, the "strong and independent" label is oftentimes an immediate red flag of a woman that she's all talk (and no action to prove how strong and independent she truly is) and is the drama queen type who only treats men in her relationships as her competition rather than partners and only just want to pick fights and make men's lives unnecessarily even more miserable.

MrOracle · Accepted Answer

No *actual* strong and independent woman would EVER say, or ever HAVE to say those words.

My aunt, for instance. She started working for her uncle in her late teens at his trucking company, and when that company went bankrupt, she started her own trucking company and ran it for 40 years. She was in charge of anywhere between 15-30 construction truckers - men not known for being especially well-mannered or politically correct - and yet, she never had any trouble dealing with them.

At the same time, she was married, loved her husband and her kids, and she'd NEVER have called herself a "strong, independent woman" and certainly would have never said "I don't need anything from a man." But plenty of other people have called her a "strong woman", and that's the point: if you're the real deal, everyone already knows it.

Women who call themselves "strong and independent" almost never really are - and, no, a high income does NOT mean you are strong and independent. The women who would refer to themselves this way invariably are loud, bossy, totally uncooperative, often irrational, and driven by their constantly-changing feelings. They are nearly impossible to be around - and impossible to be HAPPY around - and frankly they have nothing to offer a man (that a man would value) as a relationship partner besides sex - and most men don't want sex badly enough to put up with the rest of the package.

Most men are NOT intimidated by such women, they're simply uninterested in them. To a man, such women are as attractive as a poop sandwich.

Remember: I'm NOT talking about true "strong women", I'm talking about the ultra-feminists who CALL THEMSELVES "strong and independent" - those are the ones that most men have only one use for - and many don't even want that.

Friendlybro79 · Accepted Answer

Because bad stereotypes seem to be more accepted by people instead of really assuming the best in people. This applies to all stereotypes meaning when a minority of people actually do think a certain way it is projected onto all of that group.

It's easier and lazier to think this way.

Another reason they believe it is because they read it somewhere and assume it to be true without context or really diving into is this one study of a small sample group or is it just an opinion piece. Again this applies to all stereotypes not just the one you are asking about.

graacceey · Accepted Answer

I’ll give you my opinion from two perspectives. A perspective from what we can see and can’t. I feel it stems from a dislike about themselves that they keep hidden from the rest of the world simply because they can keep it hidden. So, they feel that coming off as a strong and woman who picks at men because she says she’s this strong woman, helps mask that part of them that most of the world can’t see but it still desperately cries out for help in ways they can’t even control. It comes out, not in tears, not in whimpering or pain or begging but in a vengeful and strong headed kind of way. It comes from a place of bitterness and hurt. Beyond material things, a job, car, nice clothes, expensive perfumes, shoes and jewelry and being a single woman or mom, they rarely ever present this strong woman that they say they are and that’s because truly, beyond the surface of this flesh we all have, they are not and don’t really believe they are.

ShesRad80 · Accepted Answer

hmm double sided answer for me, i notice a lot of woman these days, saying and claiming to be strong independent woman, yet live with their parents still in their 30s hell even older. they can't handle paying bills or things at work. to me a strong independent woman TCBs has control of most situations if not all in life. no task she can't handle or deal with. while i think there is some truth to some guys certainly not all guys to be intimidated by actual strong independent woman. people need to actually use that phrase correctly, strong independent woman, its very overused by the right people and rarely in the right context. and no being on onlyfans does not make you a strong independent woman but the very opposite of that. in a long winded response hope i answered your question

Alli39 · Answer

I've never actually met a woman who talks like this so I'm not sure but I can guess at where the mindset comes from.

Basically, some men do react poorly when a woman is in a position of power, wealthier, or just generally independent, particularly if they're interested in that person romantically. This tends to come from a very traditional mindset that women should be submissive, bound to the household, etc. Their negative reaction likely is rooted in some sort of fear of change/differences (because realistically, most negative reactions to things different from your expectations are rooted in some sort of fear). Thus people developed the language that men fear strong independent women because it makes them feel emasculated or unneeded. It operates the assumption on a sort of codependency in which men feel the need to be needed by a women, or to control a woman.

But seriously, I've never met anyone like this.

Strong_Warrior · Answer

Those women who claim "strong independent women" bullshit propaganda are feminists (misandrists). And they are potentiall false rape and false harassment accuser. Believe me whenever I see who talks the way like this, it ended up with bullshits. Whatever you do and say she will blame your for harassment, or being pushy or other bullshits. This is a red flag as you say.

Plus. This sentence "men supposedly fear "strong and independent women"? " is a manipulation that draws attention into it and drain mens emotions. This is an alert and a manipulation. Women manipulate men all the time but most men don't even recognize it.

HannesK · Answer

I guess it's because in most movies nowadays the females which are protrayed as "strong and independent women" have in reality really toxic traits. And so those selfclaimed "strong and independend women" just use it as a camouflage for their bad traits to sell it virtuous.

Screenwriter · Answer

I think actions speak louder than proclamations. You can listen to such statements, but unless you witness the strength and independence, it's false advertisement.

People who like drama and feel they need to compete with a partner sound like they're stuck in high school. Best avoided.

provokeesmokee · Answer

So, apparently women assume men don't want "strong independent women" for no reason.

And yet here you are explaining exactly how your own assumptions about women drive you not to interact with them.

Self-awarewolves is missing a member.

nastyb · Answer

you fear strong independent women which is why you have such a bad attitude towards them. Seeing a man who respects a strong independent woman is rare on this website. I honestly think that men hate strong independent women because it threatens their ego. In our society, women are supposed to be dumber, less successful, less educated than the man. Traditionally, men have always been the ones who outshined women. Now things have changed. Thus men feel threatened.

ProbablyClueless · Answer

Because they've spent their whole lives being taught that the way to be desirable in society is to be an independent boss babe. So when they see men react negatively to something they see as good, it's kinda tough for them to wrap their minds around the possibility that their approach was wrong.

RavVid · Answer

This was a position in another question today. It is as you say. It is simply trying to transfer their problem onto men.

I don't care if a woman is 'strong and independent' but if she is a pain in the ass for that or any other reason I will ignore her. They will like to categorize this as fearing or being intimidated when I simply don't give a shit about them.

kylee2437 · Answer

But you are also demonstrating “all talk , no action” ways as well by even trying to pitch an argument about this to begin with

Exterminatore · Answer

Because “strong independent woman” is womanese for a total feminist c*nt. I’m afraid of ‘em my self. They literally have the ability to nag you to death with their rhetoric and them just being in the room puts out such a rotten vibe it will send a grown man running.

There is no such thing as an actually strong and independent woman. Women, all of them are as strong as wet paper and as independent as an infant.

Anonymous · Answer

Because they are angry. They have some trauma. These women are the angry feminists lol..

Men want to provide and protect women. Men want to feel needed and if she speaks like that, it ruins it obviously.

Meropatrick · Answer

Maybe u r right. But there are men that exist out there who hate women who r beautiful or smart. I have seen it. There were men with me in college whom would bully an attractive girl or try to hurt them out of feeling inferior in front of them or believing this girl won't give them the time of the day.

LogicBomber · Answer

Because it’s easier than admitting that their version of strong and independent means arrogant and rude. and they know in actuality that they are not strong nor independent. If it wasn’t for men creating the world around them, they would be dead. And mentally they’re not strong which is why every woman needs constant reassurance and little emotional quotes to keep them going.

Guanfei · Answer

Because women mistake "strong and independent" with "bitchy and insufferable". And when those "strong and independent women" become too annoying and men don't want them, they pretend men don't like "strong and independent" women.

Also, those women keep saying they don't need men, and how much they're better without us. So why would we even care about them?

jshm2 · Answer

Getting some incel vibes from you, kiddo. Women will say whatever gives them confidence. If it makes you feel "less," then that is a you problem.

DiegoO · Answer

I don't think they refer to all men, although some may drop in the sin of seen us all the same.

What I've notice is that women's who put us all in the same category, are the same type of person who sees the opposite sex as a rival. For instance, men who think women's are weaker and less capable of been leaders, are like those women's who feels they need to dominate men's.

inhua · Answer

"strong independent women" are only '"strong" until they call the cops on you for sexual harassment or call their legion of simps on you for hate speech

PBandJ_Nerd · Answer

It's because those women hear about men like incels and similar of what they say men want in a woman. So, then they think men don't want a relationship with an independent woman.

gothbxtch · Answer

because those men, exactly like you, ARE afraid of women who don’t fit into your small idea of how a woman should behave. clearly, you’re afraid of “competing” with women.

Bricealan · Answer

Probably because MOST MEN are hesitant to approach, and fear, strong and independent women.

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