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1.1K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. 90% of the time? I doubt it. Some girls are just friendly people. And some were taught to smile and be pleasant at all times.
Unfriendly behavior is certainly discouraging. Therefore, friendly behavior leaves the door open.
I've known and worked with a lot of women. Most of them were friendly, whether married, in a relationship, or single. And some of them were very desirable.
But there is a subtle difference between mere friendliness and flirting. Women's signals are subtle. They rely almost 100% on body language - tone of voice, eye movements, smiles and giggles, close proximity, body movement and poses, finding reasons to talk to you. They might even make dirty jokes or puns. If she does all of that shit, she wants you.
If a guy perceives any of those things, he thinks he has a chance. He can start taking more initiative in flirting and establishing rapport. He can ask her out and see what happens.
She might not have been intentionally sending signals at all. Maybe she's just a cute, sexy, friendly girl. But a perceptive guy will have read the signals accurately.10 Reply
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1.7K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. For the most part yes , mainly because guys strive off of Ego’s when a girl compliments him and is nice to him and jokes around with him he will more than likely assumes she wants him for the most part , and he can easily take it the wrong way , why it’s best for girls that are in relationships to make it clear to other guys that they love their husband or boyfriend , Not in a mean way but in a way to let the other guy know she is off limits so the other guy doesn’t keep trying to pursue her thinking he has a chance and not cause any conflict in her current relationship out of respect for her partner , Girl’s do not realize the damage they can do to her partner by thinking she is just being nice and friendly , The same thing happens to guys in relationships talking to other girls just being friendly , even though he is just being friendly she can take it that he is flirting with her , especially if he has an outgoing personality , me personally isn’t shy and I like talking and mingling with people if I am out in public and socializing , Sometimes girls will think I am hitting on them when really I am just making conversation and take it the complete wrong way or her boyfriend will think I am trying to hot on her and get in her pants when that isn’t the case at all , so out of respect for Your partner and same goes for your partner as well try to stay clear of opposite sex people when you are in a relationship out of respect for each other , you can have small talk with the opposite sex but you are best not to have long deep conversations with the opposite sex and be too friendly cuz they can easily take it the wrong way
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+1 yIt’s only true if they’re attracted to the woman being friendly. The other 10% is when they actually see it as friendliness from a woman they would never be interested in. Cishet men in particular have this whole thing where they see all women in this light of “potentially the ONE” as they go about their lives but when it comes to unattractive women, they’ll either completely ignore her existence as much as possible, or just walk away as soon as the opportunity presents itself. I say this as that particular person when going out with a group of friends to meet new boyfriends and seeing how those guys would purposefully do everything possible to avoid eye-contact with me, or do as little as possible when I would ask them questions to get to know them. I usually end up being a good test for those men so my friends can know if they’re actually good guys or just playing the role to get to her.
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You end up the person blocking your likely better looking friends from happily marrying for who they are, not who you are.
I know it sounds harsh, it is just that men, especially the tiny minority of white brighf blue eyed smart men, are expected to run the globe for your benefit, from indusfrialised nations, yet instead of being helpful to the max with all that - for your own benefit, our own girls sabotage us the most by such expectations instead of being their loving and available helpful selves.
I understand marriage (forever) is a huge decision and that everyone wants it - girls especially - to go perfect and enfirely fit their expectations, but with a severe problem growing on our demographics front (not nearly enough marriage opporrunities nor childbirts for even the simple replacement levels of the blue eyed (especially the high IQ and decent/polite) population - our own will have to change completely and start to actively help for the disaster ahead to be averted.
It isn't that men want to ignore you - it is that good looking ones expect and deserve good looking girls who also actively help start the relationship and grow closer togerher - and your blocking because you give yourself the right to throw a tantrum for being left out is what creates the disaster - now a global problem - in the first place.
For all your self-righteous anger, you, directly, are rhe one that is entirely wrong in your approach.
Why do you not simply do what you can do be the best looming you and to find your own equal whilst helping othera find theirs?
If you believe there is someone out there who can fix it all to your extreme demands, you are sorely mistaken - there is literally no one but us to get all that resolved, and that whilst having to self exhaust continuously to keep the industrialised world's defense, economy, governance and future going - whilst you are bent on throwing a spanner in the most sensitive/vulnerable part of it - matching and marriage making. - +1 y
That’s some white supremacist shit you just spat out like a good comeback
Maybe even more.
The amount of times a simple friendly smile or nondescript conversation has resulted in someone coming on to me or asking me out is mind blowing.
Had I of asked for their number, asked if they were single, been blatantly touchy feely, batting my eyelashes and preening profusely in front of them, then at least they might have had a reason to make those assumptions!03 Reply
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That's pretty true, yeah. Maybe not quite 90%, but the vast majority of men will think that.
Women don't seem to appreciate how unpleasant so many women are to interact with. You people are definitely not sugar, spice and everything nice.
00 Reply4.9K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. That's something of an exaggeration, but it's definitely true that when a man isn't sure if it's just her being friendly or if it's flirting, most men are going to be more optimistic than is warranted. There are still clear times when she is definitely flirting or when she is definitely just being friendly, but that area in the middle is harder for a lot of men to be fully objective.
It doesn't help that women are rarely direct, and prefer to "drop hints" and rely on subtext - languages men don't speak and struggle to understand. Men certainly share some responsibility for not fully understanding, but women also need to understand their part.
The worst thing is that modern society only serves to increase these misunderstandings, actively discouraging relationships between men and women (but putting tons of energy, effort, and money into LGBT education and causes). There is nothing new about these communication problems between men and women, but these lessons were once taught, and expectations set on both sides. That was largely abolished in the late 60s, though it took a couple of generations for the residual efforts to be stomped out. And we are all worse off for it.12 Reply- +1 y
Yes, women used to literally be taught how to be a wife, and part of that was being taught how to communicate with a man. These lessons (many of which were taught informally, but still seriously) were taught in school, in church, and at home - it was woven through the entire fabric of society, much as men are still taught to be strong, stoic, to earn, lead, and protect. Yes, even those things have decreased in the last 20 years, all part of the same push to end relationships between men and women and thus to greatly reduce the population.
Society USED to have the goal of having stable nuclear families, and so people were taught how to be good relationship partners in the past, but that is no longer the goal - in fact, the World Economic Forum's main agenda item for the last 30 years has been population reduction. They only want enough Morlocks to maintain the machines that provide them - the wealthy and powerful Eloi - their comfortable lives, without having too many mouths to feed or having to worry about uprisings.
+1 yYes. Most men will consider a woman who gives them their time, and are nice to them, as flirting (possibly being interested in them). The reason for this is not that they're delusional, but men are so often ignored, ostracized, and verbally abused, that someone talking to them, being nice, and actually showing interest is rare. In our minds the only reason a girl would do this is if she likes us, which will increase our own interest in them.
A girl can likely discern flirting from "being nice" from a guy because they're usually treated nicely by EVERY guy out there. Any guy they engage in conversation with will at least by friendly.
There is a book written by a woman who presented herself as a guy for a year that details this- she killed herself as a result of her experience. As a man you are intrinsically treated like a threat (largely by women) no matter where you go. Most women will be cautious around you, bordering on fearful. Nearly every women you talk to will be short with you, likely overtly mean ("how dare you try hitting on me"). Forming friendships in adulthood is harder, both with women AND other men. Most adult men who don't have a friend group from earlier in life are lonely to the extent that women cannot even comprehend. Our phones will literally have no notifications for weeks aside from our own mothers.
So, let's return to your statement, and you can see why men would consider a girl being nice to them as flirting because it's so uncommon.
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Relatable :,(
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@JamesDuaz11 I am an older person on here, so I was speaking of how girls were back in the day. Nothing at all like now!
It's a shame guy's of today never got to experience this lively girl I am speaking of. I guess you can include me in that group. I was always smiling, nice, and friendly to guys. I would at least smile at them.
I don't agree with the new women's liberation of today. It's nothing like it was in the 70's when I grew up hearing about it.
It's really been weaponized huh? It must be if that author killed herself from being treated like a man. WOW! - +1 y
Yeah I agree. Same thing with compliments. Guys get so few compliments we can practically count them on one hand of ones we received from non-family. Girls really overlook how good they have it.
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This is 100% the answer. Men are so undervalued because women if not valued walk away but men are taught to just bare it and keep moving.
+1 yIt depends, what classes as flirting is a great question also.
Woman can be friendly, polite & caring but not flirting.
I think the key ingredient is attraction, genuine attraction can not be hidden it’s felt.
A person has a thousand smiles, many laughs and a look and stare are not always the same.
If you think someone is hot you may appreciate the looks but not actually fancy them, for me the difference is what you feel.
When you fancy someone and it’s reciprocated this is quite evident, the 2 people often up the ante over long or short periods to elevate the feeling and further confirm.
Common signs:
Her laugh
Her smile
Her eyes (and the way she looks at you)
The short bit powerful glance or glances
Her wanting to maximise your time together
Her seeking opportunities for you to be alone
I’m very good at spotting this but one occasion I’ll never forget was when I hugged a colleague and the end of an event and I felt her heart pounding.
I then knew and the vibe between us was odd for a while. I had a partner and knew she did also and I knew she wasn’t the type of woman to cheat, she’s too classy for that.
I think if your friendly with a man your vibe should be clear either way, most of the time I do think a woman is flirting with me to answer your question and these days it’s pretty clear, I catch women looking at my bum, touching my shoulders or arms (especially if drinking), playing with their hair and most commonly the way they stand or posture, I know you don’t pose like that for no reason.18 Reply- +1 y
You sound delicious😘
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That’s attraction right there it’s not always visual and I’ll take that compliment.
6”
Mixed race
Athletic
I’ll leave it there, I don’t want to ruin it 😆 - +1 y
6" is all I need😘(height that is...)!
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Yes 6 foot tall…
(In height)…
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Crumbs, are we flirting blind 🫢 - +1 y
I must fancy you...😏
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Not necessarily, not in my opinion anyway.
Fancying someone needs at least two or more elements. You seem to like my vibe, my choice of words but the appearance box is absent but intrigue loves a party and is ready for a night out. - +1 y
You're a thinker, I like that... why not take a deep dive and be spontaneous tonight😆
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Spontaneous?
Elaborate away…
1.2K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. I think it is true 90% of men have difficulty in recognizing female interest in them. You don't overtly stare at our crotch the way way we stare at your crotch and tits. Flirting is intrinsically deniable and by corollary confusing.
Plus every woman seems to have her own individual standard.
As a for instance a girl reached out and stroked my finger recently after I made a complimentary remark on her phone art photography. It was a sex electric, erection generating, light touch that made my thought turn to how good her light touch would feel elsewhere (yes exactly where are thinking of). Is that a skill she had cultivated or was she unaware of how sexual it was?
Now she was much younger than I, so I am thinking was that very deliberate or being friendly or professionally being a charming waitress. Maybe she likes men to be older? Unfortunately she was sacked the next day at the cafe so I didn't get to explore.
On the other a woman saying hello and smiling is a concrete act we can hang a hat on.
I used to have gal pal wing man who would help interpret for me. I miss her.00 Reply
+1 yIt's difficult to say whether this statement is true without more context. The percentage of men who think that friendly behavior from women is "flirting" may vary depending on a number of factors, such as cultural background and individual experiences. Additionally, the definition of "flirting" can be somewhat subjective, so what one person might interpret as flirting, another might interpret as simply being friendly.
In general, the term "flirting" is used to describe behavior that is intended to indicate interest in a romantic or sexual relationship. This can include things like making eye contact, smiling, laughing, and paying compliments. However, it's important to remember that not all friendly behavior is flirting, and that it's possible for people to be friendly without any romantic or sexual intent.
It is also worth noting that some research has found that men are more likely to misinterpret friendly behavior from women as flirting than women are, this is because in some societies, the women tend to be more polite and friendly in nature, leading to the possibility of misinterpretation. But these are based on studies and not necessarily the case for everyone.
So, it would be unwise to generalize that all men think friendly behavior of women is flirting but also not entirely false that some men might think that way based on their past experiences or cultural influences.
00 ReplyHow did you come up with such a bogus number? 90%?
You can tell the difference between friendly behavior and flirting. I live in a privately owned dorm and everyone is friendly. Sometimes when I'm carrying heavy stuff and my key card is on my pocket, a random girl will open the front gate with her key card with a smile. Is she flirting? Of course not, she's just being nice.
Flirting is when a woman keeps twirling her hair and being touchy-feely/looking for random excuses to text you or spend time around you. That's flirting.
Do not assume that guys are dumb and lack social cues, because I see a lot of questions from girls on random online forums like "does he like me"? and "will he text me back"? that basically shows that even women cannot distinguish between friendly behavior and flirting.
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+1 yMen that are flooded with determination will not catch a subtle hint and just fuck off. You could fart in their direction or even vomit and they'll be thinking you obviously like them... are in love with them and you just don't realize it yet.
Most of the psycho situations I've seen usually has a chick that's just trying to be nice and not hurt any feelings. Don't get me wrong, I've been on the shit end of the stick when a girl has done it to me... it's fucking psycho as all fuck. It's like "no" isn't the right answer at all.
00 ReplyI agree and thankfully I’m not one of them.
You can’t imagine how many friends of mine think that a girl is flirting with me when she’s just being normally nice.
Thats why people we should always avoid unprofessional situations with the opposite sex, Also a lot of girls think a guys are flirting with me when they are not so thats why I stand with my statement that girls and guys can never be true friends with sexual tension always being around.
If you put to opposite magnets 🧲 side to side they will always stick (fuck)
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+1 yIt's in our best interest to think you are flirting.
- If you are flirting and we don't think you're flirting, then we risk losing out on a relationship with you
- If you are flirting and we think you're flirting, then we have a chance of a relationship.
- If you are not flirting and we don't think you're flirting, we don't have a chance at a romantic relationship with you.
- If you are not flirting and we think you're flirting, we don't have a chance at a relationship with you
All but one results in no relationship. So there's no benefit to not thinking you're flirting.
00 ReplyI don't flirt, I don't know how to or what it is but I know touching is generally seen as flirting or at least it gives guys the sort of feeling that the girl likes him.
I've always heard that if a female touches your arm, shoulder or lower back it means she's attracted to you but I have been touched by females in such places and I found out all it means is "she needs something", "she's just being friendly" or "she didn't realize she was doing it and she stops"
So if females want guys to not see things as flirting, they should stop doing the things that give off that impression.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yThe question is why do women want to be friendly with men? I keep hearing and reading women and girls bash guys and men today. It’s gotten so pathetic now that young women are telling guys and men if you want to talk to me pay for my OnlyFans and pay me for every message sent. I hope those types of females get screwed in the future and I don’t mean in a good way. Women and girls say males don’t offer anything…Ok then why talk to us, if you want to be independent and think men and guys don’t do anything then keep those same vibes and don’t chat with guys or men, strictly chat with women. Problem solved.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yI don't know whether to laugh or cry at questions like this. I've seen so many of them, but I've seen just as many from women who are frustrated that men are "dense" and don't pick up on their hints and cues.
And here is the core problem: the ubiquitous stereotype of women expecting men to read their minds is actually true. They drop subtle hints and expect men to understand their intentions. Most women are incapable of being straightforward, and as a result men are left to guess what it is a woman wants. And if we guess wrong, we are either "dense", or "making assumptions". It is essentially a no-win situation for us because we're damned if we do and damned if we don't.
For most guys, the safest thing to do if err on the side of caution and assume she is just being friendly, knowing damned well there is a good chance the woman is sitting there thinking "you idiot, I am flirting with you and you're too dumb to even realize it".
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Opinion Owner+1 ythe safest thing to do is* err on the side of caution
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It is because it is illegal for prostitutea to solicit, strangely enough. They exist prerfy much evwrywhere, they expect money. for sex which itself may be legal, but they are only allowed to proposition one person and not multiple men, and since those girls effectively set the tone of the dating and male/female dynamics, we have the shitstorm of spolied brat girls abusing the same men who struggle on their own to keep the industrialised white countries on the global top of quality of living. The females simply expect that as a given, not willing to help nor to say even a friendl ly 'thank you mate' and to try and help matchmake or to at least pull their own weight in that industrial world quality of living goveenance labour problem.
Almost all just scream 'foul" without paying any attention to the fact they are trying to capsize or sink the boat they/we are all on. It is horryfying.
Opinion Owner+1 y@HuskyJ Agreed, and it is the self importance and entitlement of today's women that is driving this.
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+1 yFriendly behavior being construed as flirting , well that’s a stretch in my mind but then again fitting needs to be fairly blatant for me to pick up or act upon it. My normal mode is friendly so when women are friendly back it’s just norm I think. 90% seems too high , I believe some guys would want to perceive this behavior but they would be fooling themselves
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+1 yI doubt the percentage is anywhere near that high, but some men definitely struggle with that. To be fair, women do too. What other explanation is there for the great many questions here asking “Why hasn’t he asked me out yet?”, or “Why don’t men make the first move anymore?”? Get over yourself. He or she is probably just friendly and NOT that into you. Ell oh ell!
00 Reply 90% of men that you are friendly towards.
Most men dont want to waste a shot.
So it makes sense to see each green light as flirting so as to maximize and never miss the actual flirting.
In truth though the funny thing is that if you think she's flirting and you play cool, and she really was flirting, she'll flirt harder.
So you are seeig that 90% of men you tslk to wouldn't want to risk the chance that you were flirting and they didn't pick up on it.00 Reply
+1 yPretty much. Then left onto any positive attention. We don’t think that women will notice us. We don’t think they’ll like us if they do. So, if we get any positive reinforcement it’s amazing.
It may seem to you that you just smiled and said something kite. For us, the music swelled, the camera zoomed in, your hair tossed in slow motion…
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+1 yNot all men are the same. Sure men jump to the wrong conclusion. There is also men who can’t tell when a woman’s flirting.
This depends totally on the woman. Usually I just take it as she’s being firefly especially if she’s got a ring on.
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There are women though that give mix signals. It gets frustrating.
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@kramchancel there is and women like that some don’t realize they’re doing it. They’re confused themselves. Others just are playing games and are better to just avoid
1K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. I would say maybe in terms of guys in general. Personally for me it´s quite the opposite I kind of never expect that a woman is actually flirting with me and I presume she´s just friendly since most of female colleagues are taken or married.
I have actually more of a problem to figur out a flirt attempt of a woman.
00 Reply801 opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. not really, unfortunately a lot of men are obviously to women flirting. so when women are being flirtatious so when women are being flirtatious we think there just being nice and women are being nice a lot of men take it to mean there interested. if a miscommunication or a misread of the situation and women's intentions.
00 ReplyFrom my experience it is usually like that. I am a very nice person. If I'm nice with men they take it as flirty. Even when I tell them I'm not interested they don't get it. Some guys I know told me that when women laugh (I sometimes do that because I'm uncomfortable and it can be a coping mechanism) some men take that as though I don't mean it. But not all men and women are the same
00 Reply662 opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. Most men can't tell the difference because many women do the exact same behavior while one woman is just being friendly and the other is trying to flirt with the EXACT SAME behavior. Plus most women aren't brave enough to just straight up tell someone that they are iterested and rely on flirting while doing the same behavior that another woman means as only friendly and they expect men to read their minds and know which woman means what from the same actions.
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u +1 yThe difference between friendliness and flirting is a matter of degree, and some assumption about your intentions. Especially if a guy is hoping for you to flirt with him, it is easy to see how a mistake could be made.
10 Reply 323 opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. There are girls that are just bubbly and friendly all the time with everyone. So I would have to say NO, she's not always flirting with you. It's just that she's gregarious, life of the party type of girl.
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+1 yYes, most men think just because I say "Hi" that is flirting... can't even talk to a man without him thinking that.
Can't just be friendly without that happening, but I'm not about to give up talking to people.
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Thank goodness!
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Why do you think that is?
mostly yes? there's helpful and there h e l p f u l l with inyouendos yes?
my young very sexy neighbour is always flirting with me and my SO does not like her because of that
she also says I flirt with all women I don't think I do
so who is to tell what flirting is or not00 ReplyI can only second James Diaz 11 - as someone who has delivered tons of the luxuries and safety females in the induatrialised white world take for granted - I insist you simply deliver the sexual interest for me to me and stop being self-righteous bitches.
Otherwise you might get to fall from that grace you assume I will. provide to you for free. I no longer will - not until you, white blue eyed girls, give me all the love and sexual interest and favours I require, need and want.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yIf she sits on my desk, makes me coffee everyday, makes invitations to lunch or hanging out outside of work, gives me her number, and (albeit months later after actually going to lunch and spending time with her) she gives me the keys to her apartment and car, I think... thats flirting. Right?
Then again, when i told her to stop because I am married with kids, I was reported to HR for misjudging her.
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+1 yMost men do. This is probably because, in general, men receive little to no positive attention from society at large, let alone the opposite sex. One woman acting differently than every other woman he's met leads a man to think she is interested in him. That line of thinking is neither rocket science nor unreasonable.
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+1 yFriendly isn't flirting.
Flirting is flirting.
Some women also confuse friendly and flirting as well. Both they flirt but think it's just friendly because they are so sexual. And they also make the mistake that a guy offering to help them with something or saying hi is flirting when it's just friendly. Not all men are trying to fuck them. Smh. Some girls think that though.
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+1 yNot for me no, if someone is being friendly I don’t instantly think they want to jump me I just think they’re a nice person, they make me feel at ease so I can communicate better with them than someone who’s hostile.
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+1 yYes I think this is basically true. The reason? Because women are rarely ever nice so the slightest hint of being nice is seen as interest… says as much about women as these men…
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+1 y90% might be a little high, but recently my friend moved into a new dorm, and she's learned that 5 of the guys there think she's flirting with them, which is weird since she talks to them like she talks to me.
00 ReplyI would say that approximately 96.372% think that friendly behaviour is flirting. The remaining percentage don't have a clue, because they have autism (or they don't care because they're gay).
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+1 yI believe you can have a conversation without flirting but I for one most of time I ignore everyone why you may ask I seen too much as security and I got to point of just don’t care anymore but doesn’t mean I won’t have a communication with someone who is willing to do so I don’t act mean to anyone I just keep to myself.
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+1 ySadly it goes both ways... i can hardly tell friendly apart from flirting when it comes to certain key words
10 Reply Where did you get that percentage from? And is it based on statistical data? If so, how was it carried out? What were the parameters? What uncertainties were taken into consideration?
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+1 yOnly incels and jerks.
Most "Men" know that lots of women are just being friendly and kind.
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+1 yThat's not exactly true. Some women are overly friendly and don't know where to draw the line like touching a man's chest or arms frequently.
A lot of people can pick up on friendly behavior, but not everyone can read people well at all.00 Reply
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yI would say yes, most women are always hostile to men, especially to the once they don't find attractive. A lot of times even it's hard to convey a normal conversation with many women so if a girl is being really friendly men believe that she is interested in him.
00 ReplyI'm sure a lot do but that 90% number looks way too high.
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+1 yI’m not sure about 90% but it’s certainly common for men to conflate politeness with flirtatiousness. Waitresses have this issue all the time.
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+1 ySouthern guys with any sense should know better than this simply due to the common behavior of waitstaff down here... hun.
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+1 yNo, I think most men would know the difference. I don't think relations between men and women are that bad lol
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Probably not in your generatiom due to the work mine did/does - where you are failing is not giving me the effortless female and sexual attention I need to keep providing for you. You ought to staft with that, and very seriously/consciously be forthcoming, available and highly interested.
Sadly mostly true. In this boss woman erra, younger men only experience nice girls when they want something from them. So when you meet a truly nice girl, it can get confusing. You figure it out as you get older tho.
10 ReplyThe majority of the time, for sure.
So, what's your guess on the percentage of women who do that of friendly men?00 Reply
+1 yNo this isn't true. If I think you're flirting I'll just flirt back and guage your response.
Honestly friendly behavior should just be the standard of how people behave.00 Replyno. they only consider it "flirting" when a very attractive woman is being friendly to them. otherwise, if it was a plain jane or unattractive girl, they wouldn't see it the same way
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I can’t completely disagree with this. But I don’t think it’s because of what you think.
Men seem to naturally show more favor to women that are interested in them unless their really not good looking. This isn’t bad though… I mean most guys will look twice at a 5 but not once at a 2 where as there’s a study that shows in regards to online dating, most women think 80% of men are ugly.
However dating in person and dating online seem to be different beasts. I want to try dating in person and see how it works out but I’m not sure how to start. My relationships were friends and referrals by friends and family so I’ve never actually walked up to a woman and asked her out. I’ve had one dating app romance but otherwise it is what it is. It seems to me women are different when you ask them out in person compared to online and gets different results depending on where you live. - +1 y
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many people seem to think that men are nicer when it comes to rejecting the opposite sex. But I"m gonna tell you that this is not the case at all. Often times , men are even more brutal with their rejections. - +1 y
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No man is gonna look at a 5. Typically if you want attention from men, you would typically need to look like a 7 or higher. but you also need to realize that a girl who looks like a 4.5 to you , may be an 8 to someone else. Beauty is subjective. - +1 y
Beauty is subjective and that’s why you don’t have to go out of your way to reach for it because even if a 4.5 is an 8 to someone else that’s still a 5.75 on average.
And I wanna correct you on your “no man is going to look at a 5”. 5 is average. An average woman. Meaning not the best not the worst but the middle. Most women are 5s. Let me show you a 5… drive.google.com/.../view?usp=drivesdk
She’s average. Men will look at her if she smiles and talks to us. Well fuck her if she’s down. Well date her if she’s fun. Well marry her if our values align. Now an average woman that can’t smile or don’t know how to talk to us or act like we have something to prove probably won’t get attention. Also it’s god damn easy for a 5 to be an 8 with makeup and filters… I find heavy makeup and filters to be the equivalent of lying. Like this…
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Thats about an 8 or 9. I wouldn’t even try and date her. Best case she’s too high class for me worst case she’s either fake or not my kind of women. Beautiful women tend to be stuck up and bitchy and I ain’t about that. Average women that are approachable are easily in the best position for dating.
As for rejection… I’m pretty open with my standards for dating but if you want a relationship I wanna know we meet bare minimum. Like I won’t pick someone that don’t want kids no matter how amazing. But someone that’s unfriendly or makes me put forth too much effort in the conversation I’ll back off and “ghost”. I’ll gradually stop messaging and the messages get shorter until she stops responding or puts forth interest. Im so tired of days of 3 word answers I ain’t got time for this shit. I just had someone message me on bumble after almost 2-3 weeks being missing. Well i said hi and if she don’t grab my interest I’ll shift her out next. - +1 y
It’s nice being wanted and pursued isn’t it? I wouldn’t know it seems women have lost the ability to try and be appealing. Their there for an interview and uninterested in returning the effort. Well I got better shit to focus on then a woman that’s bored or too good to see me as a good catch.
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@VanillaSalt
a 5 is not a girl a man wants. its something he'd settle for because he is too unconfident to go after what he really wants. Throughout my life, I've been a 3 , a 5 and also a 7. Guys only hit on me when I was a 7 -8. I practically got absolutely no attention from men when I was a 3-5. - +1 y
@VanillaSalt
right now, only mentally ill men pursue me. my looks have fluctuated throughout my life. I can say that you do need to be a good looking girl to get hit on by guys. There were times throughout my life where NO man has ever pursued me - +1 y
Men and women look at settling very differently. Men accept that to get one thing they gotta give up something else. Only women from their privileged perspective think they can cycle through partners to find “the one” a perfect partner. As long as a woman cares for herself Ide date her to get to know her. I won’t date a fat ass. At this point it’s just lazy. And again I don’t date stupid good looking women. It’s not worth the investment.
As for you not being pursued. Makeup fixes most issues and if makeup won’t fix it you need a gym. It don’t take much to be accepted by men as a woman. A 5 cannot date like a 7. A 7 can wait for men to approach just by being but a 5 has to SMILE and look NICE and KIND… - +1 y
@VanillaSalt
you need to realize that not every man lacks self confidence like you and is happy settling for a 5. Most men don't like to settle and like to reach out to girls they find cute and pretty.
I've been cute and pretty before and trust me when I say I had a lot of guys develop crushes on me. Guys who called me beautiful on the streets, guys who seemed nervous around me.
Guys won't really care about your weight unless you're very overweight. If you have a pretty face, you will get guys talking to you or crushing on you. Beautiful women are beautiful regardless if they are a size 10 or a size 4. - +1 y
I grew up as an ugly duckling. When i was in middle school / high school, all my friends got guys hitting on them, giving them hugs, asking for their number. None of this ever happened to me. It felt as if these girls came from another world. I wasn't terribly ugly but i was considered unattractive.
But towards the end of my college years, I grew out my hair and suddenly a lot of my classmates were crushing on me, talking to me. I even got called "pretty / beautiful" by strangers. I even admired by own face in the mirror at times.
Looks do matter a lot.
I no longer look like I used to. But I still get hit on more than I ever did as an ugly duckling of a teenager. - +1 y
Bitch did you really go there… let’s clear up a few points. First I’m not lacking in self confidence. I’m single for a reason. None of my partners were worth marrying. My standards go far beyond being a pretty face so remove that shit from your head.
Second you really just complained about men not giving you attention as a 3 and 5 and now your criticizing me for picking the 5 over the 8…
I don't know what you look like but your personality is really unattractive to me. It’s not your confidence what is it… it seems like to me your after some award for most sad. - +1 y
@VanillaSalt
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Second you really just complained about men not giving you attention as a 3 and 5 and now your criticizing me for picking the 5 over the 8…]
I never complained about men not giving me any attention when I was a 3-5. I was just using my experiences being , ugly, average, and pretty to tell you that looks really do matter.
I think you just have a huge problem with acknowledging the truths about yourself. You have no concept of honesty in your vocabulary.
why don't you just be honest with yourself for once?
- +1 y
@VanillaSalt
[Thats about an 8 or 9. I wouldn’t even try and date her. Best case she’s too high class for me worst case she’s either fake or not my kind of women. Beautiful women tend to be stuck up and bitchy and I ain’t about that. Average women that are approachable are easily in the best position for dating. ]
over here what you just said just proves you are intimidated by beautiful women.
you think other people can't see that?
if looks really didn't matter to you, you would date a 3,5,7,9 with no problem
- +1 y
“Looks don’t determine a persons personality”. You just said pretty privilege was a thing. Better looking people get preferential treatment… do you think being treated better or worse don’t effect someone’s personality? There may not be a direct correlation between looks and personality but indirectly there’s tons of connection between looks and personality.
Profiles like this…
drive.google.com/.../view?usp=drivesdk
drive.google.com/.../view?usp=drivesdk
drive.google.com/.../view?usp=drivesdk
Not even worth looking at. It’s a fake bot or it’s a very high class lady that won’t fit into my class of society. You can tell by looking she’s out of place at the steakhouse I go to as “fine dining”. She’s a 9 or 10 in looks. It’s not confidence like I said… it’s fuck that I don’t want that extra in my life. Besides that how much makeup so most women that look like that wear to look like that? I’ve seen men that look like hot women with enough makeup. So I avoid these women naturally.
I’ve dated the 3… 5 years. Her weight broke furniture her personality broke my heart. Now I have a new standard… don’t be a land whale. I won’t overlook a lazy fat ass. Personality wise I look for the same thing.
Notice your telling me I’m wrong when we’re talking about MENS preferences. - +1 y
@VanillaSalt
I have looked like a 3 when I was 15, I have looked like an 7-8 when I was 23. Now I'm 27 and I look like a 5-7.
I can guarantee you that I was the same sweet girl as I was when I was 15.
[Notice your telling me I’m wrong when we’re talking about MENS preferences.]
you don't represent all men. because not all men have significantly low self esteem like you. You hate on pretty girls only because you know you will never be able to get them.
- +1 y
@VanillaSalt
I'm pretty sure you're ugly. Why don't you have an amazing personality then? - +1 y
You were 15… you can’t even judge dating at 15 as real dating… just the idea of it is against the law.
Your telling me mens preferences based off your perspective and I’m telling you based off mine… “you don’t represent all men”. Well if all men that look at you haven’t picked you… maybe it’s you? - +1 y
@VanillaSalt
[You were 15… you can’t even judge dating at 15 as real dating… just the idea of it is against the law.]
Men don't care what is against the law or not. They go for any girl who looks hot. - +1 y
@VanillaSalt
[Well if all men that look at you haven’t picked you… maybe it’s you?]
None of them were my type. I've had a ton of men fall for me over the years admiring not only my good looks but also my lovely personality. I just could never find a man with the qualities I'm looking for. - +1 y
@VanillaSalt
you're ugly so why don't you have a great personality? why are you still single at our age? most men are engaged or married with kids at your age. - +1 y
Can’t imagine what they saw honestly… you sound spiteful as hell lol.
And actually most men arnt married at all much less most men at my age. And with the rate it’s going 45% of women age 35 and under will be single and childless by 2035. You’ll have to tell me how that feels to be old and unwanted as a woman. - +1 y
@VanillaSalt
single women can actually have kids and start families on their own. single men can't. single men die alone with cats.
+1 yIt’s because men are only friendly to women they find attractive and ignore the others whereas women are typically nice to everyone unless there’s a reason not to
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You used typically for the women but not men… I treat people with the same respect they show me. That being said you disrespect me I’ll return it 10 fold…
+1 yWhere's the polling to back the question? Or do you mean a lot of guys ( undetermined percentage)
Regardless I think some do but definitely not 90%.
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+1 yMe either way I would not be able to tell the difference. One Iv’e been single since age 19 now im 36. I really do not know how to detect friendly with flirting so i just tend to say thanks for the compliment and i just ignore their existence
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+1 yMANY men think that the friendly behavior of women is "flirting"! I don't think it is 90% though.
What is also a problem is that some women are not explicit enough to make their message clear.00 Reply446 opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. Thing is that there is a considerable overlap between one woman's flirting and another woman's friendliness.
Like for a example one woman leaning on a guy is just tired and another is flirting.
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+1 yIs this some sort of new creative out of the box way of you flirting with me? You have my attention.
00 ReplyBro some females way of "being friendly" is flirting 😒 SOME not all
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+1 ywhen desperate yes. when they don't care, no.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yI don't know, it seems like most guys don't even realize when they are being flirted with. I think most guys just don't have the social intelligence most women do to be honest.
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+1 yLikely it is nothing more than a very outgoing person and not flirting at all.
00 Reply oh. friends flirt. but lovers flirt? well. it depends. some are friends. some are lovers. friends became lovers. like they are a couple. who like to flirt.
00 Reply354 opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. I don't know about that but it isn't true for me. I automatically assume and convince myself they're just being friendly no matter what.
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