Because it's true. Are there exceptions to this rule? Of course, but the original statement is a generalization, and there are always a small percentage of exceptions in a generalization. But the generalization is true in the vast majority of cases.
Men and women can be acquaintances - casual friends - but rarely can they be "friends", meaning a person they spend frequent time with alone by choice. And, to be fair, this is mostly a limitation of men.
Most men aren't looking to have female friends. Let me explain. A man in a relationship is not going to seek a female friend because it will cause problems in his relationship. A single man, to the extent that he's going to bring a woman into his life, is either looking for a casual sex partner or a romantic partner. The latter is especially true if the man gets along well with the woman and they have similar values.
Why not just friends? Because women make the cost of such relationships far too high. Most women expect boyfriend attention and treatment from their male "friends" without giving anything back.
They want their "friend" to always be available to talk, or to "help out". Every man in his 20s or older has had a female friend who asks for help moving, or building furniture, or fixing her car, or fixing her plumbing or electrical or computer. When their car breaks down, they call their "friend" for a rescue. They often need to "borrow" money that they never repay. The benefits always flow from the man to the woman. And when she dates the bad boy, ignoring the urgent warnings from her "friend", and he treats her badly, she wants to cry on her friend's shoulder.
A friend of mine was "friends" with a girl and was always doing favors for her. He'd driven her to the airport and picked her up about 8 times, even though he worked a dangerous job and would be going in with only 2-3 hours of sleep. Then he had a family emergency and needed a ride to the airport. She couldn't take him because she was meeting her friends for lunch.
Most men have caught on, and they realize that being "just friends" is all cost and no benefit, so they aren't doing it anymore. This isn't as true in high school, because women aren't as needy or entitled as they tend to be when they are older and have more responsibilities and are looking for people to pawn those responsibilities off on. Still, you are going to see more and more men uninterested in being "friends" as you get older, and for good reason.
Of course, women hate hearing this, because it means they can't benefit from it anymore. Men are done with giving all the time and never getting anything in return - things that men need and value. Most women insist that they want equality, but that's only for issues that benefit women - they never want equality when something breaks or there's a dirty job or a bill to pay - suddenly they are all about the patriarchy and "the man's job".
"Like they always do".😆 there's a segment of your gender that do the same thing. Notice I said "segment"😆
Those guys do this because they try to oversimplify male-female interaction. Thier MISTAKE is these men interact with really terrible women. These women have no intention of being friends with men (any worthwhile woman considers thier partner a friend). As a result these men think you have to keep this separation from women. Where anytime you're in thier presence you need keep this masculine persona rather then just being you. Any worthwhile woman is going to get you, and accept all of you, not just what fits some perceived female ideal of what a man is.
The segment of women I mentioned earlier do this stuff to though. They'll proclaim all men are just trying to sleep with you. When in reality these women are actually just only attracted to men that try to sleep with them. Those are the ONLY type of men she engages. So in REALITY, she's creating her own problem.
Why do so many women push for men to be just friends? It doesn't make sense.
You're at place/event X and a guy comes up to you... THAT GUY is not going to the effort so he can be your "friend"... get real.
The one possible exception is if a friend introduces you and you only see one another when that friend assembles everyone. THAT guy is possibly not interested in you, so he's marginally capable of being "just friends". You only see each other at friends parties or public events... that's an acquaintance.
If you've suddenly gotten a guy to hang around and do all the handiwork you need in the house... that's a guy angling for a title bump in your life.
The ones saying this are the once who would use any chance to have sex.
You can be friends, BUT only when both parties really don't want anything from the other person. I have male friends at work, but like we don't hang out, I call the boyfriends of my girls friends and sometimes we send memes but don't hang out
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Sorry to say some men are a bit sex addicted.
I have a lot of female friends, and they are freaking amazing people.
I think what is more important is mindset and emotional intelligence.
One of the things that makes it possible for men and women to be friends is the very thing that makes it difficult for some men not to want to take it furthur.
Women are more sensitive to Oxcytocin than men are, so it is not that when they are being friendly they are flirting with guys, rather they are inherently actually MORE FRIENDLY THAN OTHER DUDES ARE TO OTHER DUDES. (Sorry not screaming, just emphasis). So, it feels so bueatiful, sweet, and special and like a relief to be around a woman as a guy, even if it is a platonic relationship, because the extra "Oxcytocin Force" as I am calling it, is inherently more intense (because women like it that way naturally, Oxytocin relationshiping, being "friendly", is y'all's "Normal". For guys it is not our "Baseline" or "Normal." Tesosterone makes our Baseline more focuesd on "accomplishing challenges together" with other dudes rather than "being friendly".)
All that said,
I have amazing friendships with women all around me. I am also a virgin and I make it quite clear to them that I AM NOT PURSUING SEXUAL ACTIVITY WITH THEM. I have found that this actually puts women at ease and they seem to let go and feel exteremely emotionally safe with me.
33% of the time the singly women in my life are horny and will go elsewhere for their needs since I am not engaging or responding sexually with them
33% of the time the women just behave like really fun and funny sisters to me, and it is freaking amazing the platonic adventures, conversations we experience together.
33% of the time the single women among them start to flirt with me a bit. I don't know if it is because they feel so safe with me that they think they fell they might as well date me, or if is they can't help themselves and aren't hiding it very well, or maybe they dont like me sexually/ romantically, but they just have an affection for me that has developed a bit. Regardless of the reason, they get really touchy/feely/cuddly with me. They'll come up with excuses to sit next to me, lean against me or even hug me tightly for like 3 extra seconds when we greet each other in public or in private...
So, yeah.
Of course, men and women can be friends!!! But the there is a unique GENDERED energy in cross-gendered platonic (non-sexual) relationships.
It's just like you interact with your mom differently than the way you interact with your dad. Same with your grandparents. Same with your siblings.
Because in a lot of cases, it ends up more than just friendship , even though that isn’t always the case, but that’s usually what happens if any attraction is involved between them both , this can occur from both sides , A guy or girl that invests a lot of their time into the opposite sex , usually indicates that they want more than just friendship , They will act like they are just your friend until they have an opportunity to make a move on you
, I had girl friends’ that did this to me that eventually confessed their true feelings for me , and I have done this to girls’ as well that I was attracted to to , So if you are already in a relationship with someone , you are best not to really Make close friends’ with the opposite sex , unless you want to add fire into your relationship
It's a choice on whats more important to you
SOME guys learn in life there are more important things than having sex.. like friendship
When a man meets a girl and he is interested in her 98% of the time it's because she is beautiful sexy and he wants in her pants
And after a few failed relationships he realizes there is something deeper call friendship true friendship
He has to make a choice
He either wants her as his friend for life
Or
He wants in her pants they will go with each other but down deep he knows it will never work for a long period of time
He just wanted in her pants she breaks up and that's the end of that..
So guys who say they can't befriends. It's true because they are selfish and are just weak boys
The guy who say yes there are no problems being friends is the guy you want because he's not out looking at every girl like a piece of meet and can be a true friend
Why do women lie and string along guys and then expect them to still be in a place where you can still be friends?
In yalls head, you think you’re doing a good thing “oh I’m just letting him down easy”… uh no you’re not. Especially if feelings grow, because you’ve opened the door for them to, and yet you think it’s all good. No you broke the basis of trust that ANY kind of relationship, platonic or otherwise, is founded and based around.
Have some foresight, have some principles and stand by them.
If you just politely turned a guy down to begin with , good , the air is clear. Both of you can move on. But if a guy is really into you, he’s not going to buckle at a handful of wishy washy singles. He’s going to try to win you over. Whether that’s foolish or not, up to you , but have some respect for the dude at least. Lying to someone is not showing them respect.
*signals
so we should politely reject them, but yet you said in ur og comment that its bad we’re rejecting them? im not sure what u want us to do?
In the OG comment I said you SHOULD reject them as early on as possible. It is for the best. It doesn’t get the rest of your interactions off on false hope or pretense. Just think about how you would feel. You lead someone to believe that there’s hope because you kept agreeing to what they want, but then just breadcrumb them weeks or months afterward. It’s incredibly bad. Horrible for their mental health.
Get the hard part out of the way early, reject them, and move on.
You are not mean or a bad person for doing so. It just is what it is. Be fair to people. Lying is never the answer, even if you think you’re protecting someone’s feelings. You are not.
I have been through this. Take my word for it. She left a permanent mark on me.
yeah sure, but most of the time women will want to see the best in men and not think he's attracted to her and just wants to be friends.
my god, you’ll live.
why are men so weak? why can't y'all handle a simple rejection? holy shit y'all are emotional🤦♀️
No. We stand on principles. We want to be able to trust the people we care about. We hope that people will stand by their word. And unfortunately, sometimes we have to learn the hard way that we can’t do that. This is something that really gets me fired up because I got hurt and it affected me for quite a number of months and years. I haven’t been the same afterward.
who said u can't trust her? stand by what word? are u implying women cheat or what?
Because men are basically biologically programed to want to reproduce. Part of that programming results in them wanted to have sex with just about any attractive woman. Some men are far better at controlling themselves, but the closer they get to a woman, the more they will want sex. That's why.
So you can't even have friends because you can't control yourself? get a grip.
sure, but statistically its usually men. but if both want sex whats the problem? i was talking about u by the way not a group of people
1) Sex isn't something friends do. You might not be in a romantic relationship, but to say you are friends is dumb.
2) This question usually refers to a man that is already in a committed relationship. For those men, obviously sex with someone else is wrong
Oh, and I was talking about a group of people, not myself. Am I not allowed to talk for others?
1) Ever heard of ”friends with benefits”?
2) And if those men have sex with their friend, thats their responsebility bc they’re in a relationship.
nah you’re not.
1) Ya, you notice how you have to specify something extra? It's because friends don't have sex with each other. People would be having 10s to 100s to 1000s of sexual partners by the time they hit 30 if that was normal.
2) No argument here, but that has nothing to do with why men think they can't be friends with a woman.
Good thing for me, I don't care what you think I'm allowed to do.
1) whatever u say ig🤦♀️ i mean some people do have that many sexual partners tho…
2) so why do u think men and women can't be friends?
wow ur so edgy
1) Yes, and most of them tend to be in the sex/porn industry in some way or another
2) To bring my statements all together, men will always be interested in women. Because of this, the majority of men will want to have sex with a female friend they get close to. Most men don't have enough control not to have sex if the opportunity arises. Most men think sex is more than friendship, therefore if you've had sex, you are more than friends, thus not friends. It also usually applies to men in relationships, and they are saying "I have to choose not to be friends with you because if I don't, I might cheat on my wife".
3) I actually think they can be. I have the control not to have sex with a woman just because I like her. I also refuse to believe I'm the only male with that much control
You started it.
1) Yeah sure, but some aren't and js wanna have fun🤷♀️
2) why dont women feel the same for men?
so men are basically sex animals that can't control themselves? got it
1) There are quite a few accurate insults for those that "just wanna have fun"
2) I would argue that women have the same problems, they just won't admit it. For a man, cheating is sex. For a woman, cheating is emotional support. I don't mean that a woman having sex with someone else isn't cheating, but men crave sex and is their most common form of betrayal. Where as women crave emotional things, like talking out problems, cuddling, etc. and that is their most common form of betrayal. For some reason, we don't consider the emotional part to be a betrayal, but if you look at marriages that fail when sex isn't involved, you will find that emotional betrayal quite often. Because we don't considering it cheating as often, women are able to ignore that it is true for them too.
3) Actually, yes. Humans are literally an animal. And these days, the intelligence and control that makes us so much different from the other animals seems to be lacking more and more in more and more people.
1) and?
2) i think we’ve lost track from the og question but ok.
1) That those people don't have friends, or at least the ones they stay in contact with aren't friends. The rest obviously aren't.
2) Not really, you asked why women don't think this. Because of those reasons. Basically, women also can't be friends (stay friends and not cheat), but they don't classify it as cheating, so they pretend they can stay friends and not cheat.
1) so being called names means not having friends?
2) yeah sure
1) No, being the kind of person that fits those particular insults means the people they are doing things with aren't actually friends. Friends also actually means something to me. An acquaintance isn't a friend, nor is someone you spent time with for 1 month then never spoke to again
they obviously dont have sex with EVERY friend.
okay👍🥱
It's not just men who think this, lots of women think it too. And for the same reasons men think it: because the guy will want sex or a relationship. Even though a great number of women themselves have also fallen for their male friends romantically and even sexually, but they like to pretend that they are outside of this and that it's all just men who want to get physical or get the wrong idea about a friendship.
Because iv tried to. I use to think the same way but in reality we can't be friends. Even if the friendship is genuine you already subconsciously chasing them without even knowing it. Sooner or later someone is going to look at the other differently. Its not about if its when. These type of people make the best marriages because you were friends first.
why can't you see women as human beings and not a sexdoll?
We are built different. Its not that i see you as a sex doll. Its just in our nature biologically to like each other.
there's another question on gag that ask if you have ever thought about having sex with your female friend. This question is from a WOMAN lol… so lets not pretend like women are innocent. This is on both sides. You can't fight nature.
Ill say this: you can be friends for sometime its possible, however there is a time limit. Its not set in stone but eventually if both of you never find anyone you will start to look at each other. Again im speaking from experience.
People use to say to me and her.. so when are you getting married and it made it awkward because my mind wasn't even any where near seeing her as anything else but friends.
Dont say i didn't warn you lol
its not. I know a lot of men, even my dad who has female friends that never wanted or tried to get with them, get a grip and start respecting women.
what does the fact she was a woman have to do with anything…? I've never found a male friend attractive.
so you will never be friends with any woman ever?
warn me about what? that men are just sex animals and dont give a fuck about what women feel or things and only see us as sex dolls?
By the way i take care of my on my own even though i got siblings that are never there for her. so dont talk to me about respecting women. My mother alone will vouch for me. If you check my comments im the biggest championing women i just call you on your bs. Because women love to be lied to but hate the truth
You really can't fathom guys who dont use girls for sex exist? Immaturity.
Bet you’ll fall inlove with ur mom too since u can't see women as anything else than sex dolls.
Basically, men lie and other men know this. Other men know they will lie and pretend to be friends just for the off chance they can get a shot.
There is a reason why most cheating stories include " i was told not to worry, they are just friends ".
I believe your experience. The word is users. Men use women for everything. Whatever they need at any given time under the friendship label... snap out of it ladies your being used.
I value being friends with girls who are not my girlfriend or ones who I have never been sexually involved with. I like to hear their points of view and some fun convo. U are right that some guys just can't handle it. It is their loss. Message me if u want to chat more about it.
whats there to message about?
weirdo
It’s possible, but only short-term in places like work or school. I used to have a lot of female friends, but close friendships with them don't last long. Once they get into relationships, jealousy starts, and it inevitably ends, turning into a waste of time. It’s not worth the effort, though keeping it casual at work or school is easy enough.
Because some men are always gonna view any relationship with a woman as sexual at some point. And in their defense, it's pretty common for men and women both to catch feelings at some point. That tends to complicate or end the friendship if it ends up being one sided. Maybe impossible is the wrong word but difficult wouldn't be wrong.
You are under 18…so yeah, they really can’t unless they're cousins or siblings or some other situation that kind of forces them to interact.
We are just too different, and the whole attraction thing will really complicate it, its a recipe for disaster.
i have loads of guy friends and there's no problem with that
We can be not in the way many women want men as friends.. You can friends with you wife and maybe relatives, and maybe get some female friends along the way, but men and women are naturally attracted to each other, and at some point somebody is gonna develop feelings many times.. Only way men and women can be friends thats not family is if each grew up together and see no way of them being attracted to each other.
The only women I won't be friends with are ex's.
Being a married man though I don't have close female friends, it's not appropriate. Plus I don't want to broadcast the kind of signal that may produce, nor do I want to give my wife any reason to doubt my fidelity. Plus I will never be alone with anyone of the opposite sex unless my wife is present.
how is it not appropriate to have friends…?
if she thinks you’re cheating either she has issues or you’re an awful husband
this is so sad, can't even have friends because you’re too horny smh…
I'm too horny? That's what you got from that? Fucking moron. Apparently you're either too stupid to understand, or too young to understand appearances in social situations mean everything. It's not about being horny, it's about sending the correct message. People, mostly women gossip when they see things, a man and a woman by them selves in a public setting, sends the wrong message, and people who gossip are going to gossip, and suddenly my family, and friends, and my wife get the wrong idea.. But again you're too naive to understand that.
As to your comment about no friends. Typical female response, you automatically jump to the worst conclusion, i said "CLOSE FEMALE FRIENDS" notice the word "CLOSE"? I do have female friends, none are what I call close friends.
But again you read things that aren't there and put words into my mouth. Again typical female.
It's usually because they simply can't, which doesn't say a lot for them.
That doesn't mean millions of others are not friends with women. Most of my friends are males and always have been.
Patriarchy and gender roles encourage men who already don’t see women as people to continue doing so and project that image onto others
Men and women CAN be friends, but the guy will always wonder what she is like in bed. That's how Nature built us guys.
no you just can't see women as human beings.
Human beings, like all living creatures, are built to procreate. There is nothing wrong with that.
Said from a young inexperienced person who claims anonymity. 😐
what does that have anything to do with it?
Asker, the only one who needs to grow up here is you
yeah no, its the incels who can't see women for more than their bodies.
They can't. There will always be interest in the woman by the man. Very dangerous if either is in a relationship.
ehh… did i switch man up with woman there? its def more common the man is in love with the woman and the woman friendzones him
because women are more likely to do something about a problem than sweap it under a rug like men do, but thats a whole other conversation for another time.
how has that got nothing to do with this question?💀
The guy said that a man will always have an interest in a woman, which is what the question asked about. He also pointed out that is bad if either party is in a relationship, because that means someone would be cheating. Who is cheating doesn't change whether it's bad or why men think this
okay?
@dudeinohio You have serious maturity issues if you think any of that is actually true.
Been in that situation. Not a maturity issue at all.
Because there are a lot of men who are unable of seeing women as peers. Rather women are seen as lessers.
The way I understood it from them is if they love you and they find you attractive they don't want to, naturally, just be friends with you.
Humans tend to make decisions based upon past experiences. I don't mind female friends, but the problem is that most end up liking me at the end.
Since you’re so disgusted by the male gender date women
god i wish i was attracted to them☹️
Probably projection. They assume every other man is just like them
True
They can be if neither wants to fuck the other but mostly we would.
why? why can't men just see women as humans and not some sex doll?
Because they can't.
Somehow, someone is willing to have sex with the other. I've seen women get jealous when their male friend shows interest in someone else. And we know most dudes wouldn't mind having sex with their female friends.
They see women as only good for sex and romance
m only those who are not capable... are the ones saying this
Most men understand men and women canr be friends. Thats why fat girls have fewer male friends than hot girls.
so men only see women as sex dolls?
@Asker Thats an interesting question, sex dolls dont talk so men dont value woman quite that much, but I would say if sex was off the table most men wouldn't invest time and resources on most women.
so men only see women as sex dolls, got it.
@asker Glad I could educate you.
already knew that so not really lol
@Asker Then why did you ask me?
it was more of a rhetorical question
@asker So you're saying that men shouldn't take women at their word?
dude what? HOW is that what u got from my response?
@asker Well you asked a question and upon being provided an answer you proceed to tell me that your original question had alterior motives. This is actually something I teach mean to recognize in woman. This is no different than when a woman ask if she looks fat. She doesn't actually want to know if she looks fat she wants to be reassured that she isn't. It's difficult for inexperienced men to understand this, however men like myself that have had hundreds of women, easily recognize these traits.
yeah no thats not how that works in this case.
@Asker You literally provided a tangible example to show that it does. TY.
i never did tho lol
@Asker Perhaps you're just not intelligent enough to understand how. Regardless you've already provided the info, and I appreciate you for it.
basic male response ”ur js too stupid to understand” as always. can't accept he’s wrong or take accountability.
@Asker Perhaps you should examine why so many males call you stupid. As for me there's nothing to be "wrong" about as I already have your statement on writing which I want to thank you for.
from what I've seen from ur other responses and comments i think we’ll end it here, i dont feel like talking to an irresponsible incel anymore
@Asker TY for reading my content. You dont need to say anything, as you've already served your purpose.
Because we can. I have a number of female friends.
They can be friends, but without any intentions 🤔 it's very hard...
not really
As you wish, when you become a guy, come and tell me 😏
what? are you seriously attracted to every single woman u see? talk about being desperate…
Nope i'm not and i'm not talking about myself, why are you arguing with me, just make a little experiment and let's if guys would be truly friends with you without any intentions!
i have tons of guy friends who aren't attracted to me, you need to grow a pair dude
you wish
My wish was granted since i was born, so don't worry about me!
ur almost 40, maybe consider getting a job?
I have a job that you wish for, so worry about yourself!
why aren't u working then?
Cause it's night here 😄
riiight… go work now
Because some men think women are just for relationships or sex, I have several close female friends and been friends for years
Because those guys are projecting their tendencies upon everyone.
Would women be “Just friends” with a man they are attracted to?
yes. cause we see men like normal human beings, not sex dolls.
I don’t think so. If you attracted to a guy, I’m sure you’d want to date him or more. Men and women are the same in that aspect. Why do guys get friendzoned? Simple, you aren’t attracted to him. Everyone will want to jump that persons bones when there is attraction, it’s a fact
no i dont. if im attracted to a guy i say, ”oh he’s cute” and thats it. i have never in my entire life thought sexual thoughts about someone i didn't know personally. you just can't see women as human beings.
Wrong. I heard this one girl that said “that guy is hot, I wanna rape him”. So there you go, women are no different.
wdym wrong? i said I meaning me. and its not all women yk. I've heard more men say that than women so that must mean every man is bad and every woman is good!
see how fucked up that thinking is? get a grip dude.
Explain why many men aren’t in relationships. Only a very small # of us are 6ft tall, out of the world handsome. That’s the type of guys women all want. Rest of us struggle because of your standards. Feminism and social media is reason why western women are very difficult.
well because many men dont have good personalities, thats what a lot of women want. you guys have set up your own standards of 6ft tall and an alpha chad to be with a girl when what every girl wants is a kid man who loves them.
however YOU’RE not in a relationship because ur an incel who can't see women for more than their bodies.
Not an incel. How about we get rid of feminism and me too. Those groups encourages hate towards us.
I’m no fan of Trump, but I hope with his presence, those groups would dissolve. Dating was better off before they came into place.
And women do have faults of their own. Like worrying how much $ a man makes a year. I do know a lot they base it
yes you are. once again a male who dont know what feminism is, am i surprised? not at all.
my fucking god. u want women to have no rights just so u can date them? says a lot about your character btw…
wanna know why? because men always end up depending on us and we have to become their mothers if they dont make enough to take care of themselves, is that seriously too much to ask for?
Ever watched “pop the balloon” on YouTube? A women rejected a guy there because she didn’t like his occupation. He’s working, taking care of himself. But no! His career wasn’t good enough lol. So yea women do have unrealistic standards in $ and how a guy looks physically
what was his career? it could’ve been something personal to her, maybe a close friend passed while working and she doesn't want to go through that pain again?
ah but when men want a natural 10/10 with huge tits and a huge ass but still looks like she's younger than 18 years old thats totally okay?
I can’t remember what the occupation was honestly. Still between a blue collar worker vs an attorney, the attorney is gonna get more dates because they make more $. You ladies are wrapped up over a guys income. Yet you hate being called “gold diggers?” Simple, stop worrying how rich a guy is and you won’t be called gold digger.
A natural 10/10? A 5 wouldn't give me the time or day let alone a 10 because I’m not 6ft tall, dark and handsome. That’s what women want.
Guys who try to meet minor children are either in jail registered sex offenders. They are disgusting and earned both of those statuses. I don’t fall under that category. My age range is 30’s up to my age. That’s fair I feel. Don’t forget about female teachers busted for sex with teen boys. So women are guilty of that too. Looks are more important to women than men, it’s proven fact
ok sorry then for not wanting a man dependant on me ig? why wouldn't i want a man to be able to support himself?
never been called a gold digger lol.
you’ve been on the internet for wayy too long, men keep telling themselves thats what women want just because women dont want them (incels).
okay? u want a good guy reward or smth? and here he goes. only bringing up male victims when female victims are brought up, men like you only bring up male victims in situations like this to belittle women, you would NEVER say this if female victims werent brought up.
yeah right, id LOVE to see that source.
Feminism, me too are groups that’s destroying love between men and women. I know women that against those groups they even said the groups want men dead. You feel oppressed? Try living in the Middle East then.
I support myself, I don’t depend on anyone. It’s just that western women has unrealistic standards set because social media tells them they are perfect.
Gold diggers do judge men based on what they do for a living by the way
oh god. ah yes lets go back to the times where women were submissive housewives who got abused if the chicken was too cold and didn't have any rights. as always, said by a man.
women who say feminism is against men are stupid and uneducated, hope that helps! goes for men too by the way.
let me just ask you, what do u want in a woman? how should she act like? look like? career? family wise?
no shit? thats what gold digging means retard?
now wheres the source to women thinking looks matter more than men?
We struggle finding dates on apps etc. women think 80 % of men are unattractive. Like I said, it’s the 20% you all fight for. Tall, dark handsome, is well off financially.
Name some women you knew are abused housewives? Women who become housewives because they want to. They don’t wanna work. That’s where rich guys come in. What we do for a living matters way too much to you and our physical appearance. You always have a pool of options with guys.
god forbid women are picky about a person they’re gonna spend their life with? like what?
yeah no, every ugly guy ends up with someone at least. but she's never up to YOUR standards.
what? i said ”go BACK in time” when it was the norm idiot. yeah some choose to do that. dude what? you do realise like less than 1% of women want to be housewives, right? personally I dont have a pool of guys, some girls do, i dont. same way you dont have a pool of girls while other guys do. not everyone gets what they want in life yk🤷♀️
now why are you ignoring every single one of my questions?
I haven’t ignored my questions. You can cool down the insults. Respect your elders, have some values. So you agree a guy has to look lik a perfect 10 then. That’s why women are picky.
There are no abused housewives. Those are feminists in those toxic man hating groups. It makes no sense to say you’re oppressed when you live in a free country. Again, try living in 3rd world nations, you’ll see what oppression is all about. Toxic Masculinity is what feminism speaks about. Penalizing us for being male. I wouldn’t touch a feminist with a 10ft poll. I bet you support Lorena Bobbit. She’s a sick person
still didn't answer my questions smh…
i think a guy needs to look like a perfect 10 to be with a perfect 10 yes. and that women are picky because they’re choosing a person for life.
yes there are, but fortunetly a lot less nowadays. and once again uneducated on what feminism is, as always. when did i say i personally am oppressed?
feminism is about equality wether u like it or not.
and you still wonder why no girl wants you?🤣
You’re showing your true colors of being feminist. A woman won’t like me because I don’t support feminism? 😆 Good joke. You dunno what I look like and your name calling and other insults is an example of a stuck up western feminist woman. Feminism is hating men and you admitted to hating us
And you’re saying it’s ok for women to be picky. But my god it’s terrible if we are!
why should i waste my time googling 50 yr old women? still dont know who that is🤷♀️
yet you called someone under 18 overweight and masculine, real mature huh? ah yes be a submissive lady and listen to every man in my life and be a slave, thats why u dont have a girlfriend, bet ur balding too.
when did i say that?
and ONCE again 2 questions still left unanswered.
Pot calling the kettle. You’re still spewing insults. I am balding…. Your point being?
Cause I don’t try.
right. we’ll say so.
Everyone wants to be like me
HAHA love the confidence tho!
lol why not add some humor in the mix. Good way to celebrate the ending of the year
nice!
because for the most part it dont happen. most men are always just waiting on their chance it doesn't matter how many years the friendship has been.
They can, but it's complicated. If a dude has any interest in being your friend, there's almost always some level of physical attraction
why do men only have to see us as sex dolls and not human beings?
Very few men actually view women as "sex dolls," I'd say the majority of us treat them with respect and like a human being. A lot of the boys you know might not, but you are just a teenager. Anyone under 25 is still going through mental development stages. It's not that we can't have a female friend without wanting to fuck her, but we are more likely to want to fuck our friends of the opposite sex than women are. We can't help it, it's hardwired into our brains.
yet you say they’re just into me?
its not. you’re just weak and can't see women as human beings.
What? No, child. You're not getting it. You clearly have no interest in discussing the subject or accepting any of the information given to you. You just wanna behave like an immature brat. That's cool, falls in line with your age group. See ya ✌️
my god another incel here🤦♀️
Kid, you're just embarrassing yourself at this point.
right incel
Right. We'll just pretend that I'm whatever you say I am, so you can feel a little bit better about yourself. You seem like you need it.
you can keep denying it but we both know why you’re still single
It's cute how you're describing men as the ones who are "always complaining," when you know just as well as I do that it's women who actually do that. Not that this actually applies to you (you're not a woman, you're just a kid). Anyway, you continue to put your lack of life experience on full display for everyone to see. Don't bother responding, because I am done here. To da loo, kiddo
you literally are tho. all i hear is complaints when society is built FOR you and its basically just whining bc u didn't get the biggest pizza slize by a centimeter.
Because physical attraction between men and women is more stronger than friendly feeling
you feel attracted to every woman you’ve ever been friends with?
Because they are ignorant. I get friend-zoned by hot girls all the time.
It's impossible only if there is mutual attraction.
Yup I can be friend with girl anytime i have few best friends are female
Probably the same boring lame losers that refuse to have sex until they're married.
I've fallen in love with female friends before and it never ends well so I've given up on keeping women as anything more than acquaintances. Life is simpler that way.
Because is true!
you’re 35, when will you ever grow up?
I'm good, thanks!
ur proud of not believing men and women can be friends?
This is not about pride to me nor is something that bothers me.
so you just want to be against me?
They definitely cannot be friends
why not?
i dont, tell me why?
Because sooner or later one of them or both of them develop feelings and or they've had an ulterior motive all along.
Women rarely want to be friends.
They're awkward in dating and befriend someone that they would potentially see themselves in a relationship with. It takes the pressure off of both parties by saying they're friends when really she's evaluating him as a partner.
Men befriend women that they would sleep with. They call them friends just to keep an open connection in hopes that one day somehow they will end up sleeping together
not always, but sometimes yeah, thats when u friendzone and ghost them.
do you think every single man and woman friendship end up like that?
so it doesn't prove your point.
There is no point to prove on my side.
Your question asked why I think this way and that's exactly what it explained.
If you want to prove a point why don't you ask all the guys you consider friends how many of them would rail you given the opportunity.
Because they're not really your friends... They just want derail you. And when you say no they won't be your "friends" anymore
you literally said ”proves my point”💀
does it shock you that not every man sees women as objects they would have sex with? get help dude.
dude🤦♀️
already have. none of them did. you’re just disgusting for only seeing women as objects you’d like to fuck.
why can't men just stop?
women aren't the problem here, its obviously men. as you’re literally saying. YOU’RE the problem.
majority of women befriend men to simply have friends, men just want sex like animals.
you believe people on here?
oh please its all for attention🤦♀️🥱
ok byebye
cause some people legit can not do that.
immaturity
everyone works differently emotionally.
no its immaturity.
well that argument was super mature xD
if you can't see women as normal human beings without seeing them as a sex doll, you’re immature.
what makes you think that's the reason for them not choosing to be friends with women? that's crazy immature and sexist shit.
like what you just said there is litterally "women belong in the kitchen"-Level sexism.
Im saying if you can't see women as human beings ur immature, how is that a crazy thing to state?
that's not the crazy thing to say. it's a crazy thing to claim that men can't do that. and it's sort of ignorant to assume that this is the litteral only reason why a person would not choose to be friends with another person.
I never said all men, i know a lot of men can, but i also know a lot who can't. Those are the ones im calling immature, if ur not one of them, no need to be so offended🤷♀️
ok if it's not all men, then what's the reason of "not those men" to not choose to have female friends then? cause you made it sound as if "men being immature and only seeing women as sex objets" is the only possible reason for that from your point of view.
what? im obviously saying that men who choose to not be friends with women because they can't see them as more than sex dolls, are immature, do you understand now?
oh. i heard you say that the only reason men choose not to be friends with women is because they see them as sex dolls and are immature. was that not what you were saying? i just thought that was a ridiculous thing to say cause that's maybe true for a tiny minority of the guys who choose not to be friends with women. so i thought it was weird that you highlighted it by explicitlystating it as if thatwas some sort of big phenomenon.
No thats not what i was saying.
so you do think men may choose not to be friends with women for other reasons and that that's the majority of those who do?
Dude what. Ofc there's other reasons dumbass. Im saying the guys who only see women as sex dolls are immature, are you slow in the head?
i just don't understand why you'd bring that up. nobody disagrees with that and it's a tiny minority so why did you bother to mention it then?
YOU brought it up dude. we wouldn't be here if you didn't write ”some people just can't do that” fucking retard
Because women are lying cunts
who hurt u dude?
Well, y'all kinda have a reputation, blame the men before u, those girls were probably used by your friends.
What? This is some incel bs rn, no wonder women dont like u
omfg🤦♀️
”Your feminism is showing stronly, misandrist” HAHAHA make it make sense, what do you even mean with that?💀
Explain with sources what feminism is.
Every feminist i have ever met has hated men. No matter what. They talk and brag about feminism being about equality but bring up any issue facing men and all you get is stonewalled or told how its not the right time to talk about those issues. Because they don’t care. Feminists also spread lies, like the gender wage gap. Yes when you look at the TOTAL OF MEN WOMEN THERE IS A GAP. BUT THOSE ARE THE ALL JOBS BY ALL AND ALL JOBS BY ALL WOMEN. Broken down in to specifics, the gap disappears or in a lot of cases favors women. More men will work longer and more dangerous jobs. But the main percentage works better in making men seem evil. Feminism can’t be a out true gender equality, because men have to be portrayed as the evil doer. And if the evil doer is actually suffering, then the whole movement falls apart. So feminists continually find ways to make men look horrible. Even if its less than 1% of the while gender, they point to something and go see look they are horrible! When they perpetrate violence and sexual assault against men at the same rate, but a lot of it is under reported or refused to be added to reports. I hear how men are so violent in relationships yet gay men in relationships have the lowest amount of dv cases and lesbian relationships have the highest. Funny how that works.
Feminism has tricked a whole generation of women into thinking show they're holes online is a career. That they don’t need a man, they are strong, independent and shouldn't be a traditional women while expecting men to keep their traditional gender roles. They literally want equality until the check comes. But if a man expects a house wife after fulfilling his traditional gender role he’s a sexist. Or if expects 50/50 from a woman he’s broke. Its expensive to date now. Dinners are not first date things anymore, especially if the woman is not putting in any effort.
Also, feminism has made everything men do bad. They made it so being a masculine is basically the worst thing you can do, while at the same time telling women to be more masculine. Feminists told men not to bother women in public, now so many women are asking where the men are, why don’t guys flirt anymore? Guys could ‘t even goto the gym and workout without a woman trying to film him just glancing generally in her direction to film him and shame him online. Women bave been told that they should be treated like men, but when a guy treats a woman like a man she hates it. Can’t handle it and claims sexism anyway.
You can also talk about family courts being one sided, the education system favoring teaching methods towards girls and what you also have now in a generation of young men growing up with nothing but women on social media mocking them, mocking their own boyfriends/husbands and then wondering why many young men followed grifters like Andrew Tate and have shifted to the right in politics.
My sources come from living as a man and actually seeing how bad feminism actually is.
Why are you not answering my question?
Oh is it because u can't?
didn't see any sources. You are not a reliable source. If u were to google what feminism is you would find its about equality, nothing else. What you’re talking about is something men made up to be victims.
Google is not a reliable source. You can google why is nazism is good and it will give you results. So you are basically saying nazis are good because google says so. Sorry honey, you’ve been fed lies and bought hook, line and sinker. Feminism isn’t about equality. MAGA & Trump say they are about America and they are destroying left and right.
Just googled it and it doesn't lol. Only explained what it was.
Feminism is about equality wether u like it or not, could u give me an actual source that says feminism isn't about equality?
it is but ok. And he still couldnt find a source to support his claim, wonder why… wonder why…
Foolish, of course they can
thats what im saying!
Don't give up on all of us
such little hope left
Little understanding
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