Confidence could be useful in most cases, but you don't nessisarily need it to get a girl. Believe it or not there ARE women out there that don't care about looks or how a man dresses. They just look at his heart and go from there:). That's what I usually do. You'll find the right woman but it just takes time and patience. Trust me, being patient will definitely be worth it when your happy as can be with her(: Do you like to read? Maybe you could go to a library or a church. Good nice girls could be there. Don't go out to clubs and what not more shallow girls tend to bein those spots but then again every girl is different and they have their own hobbies so idk. I wish you the best of luck sir... Your life is very meanigful and you HAVE a purpose in this world. You don't need a women to complete your life. Remember that:)
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the same guy who came up with confidence (maslow) said that its necesary to fulfill sexual needs and be loved ( I've been waiting for 19 years , is that not patient enough ? )
Women are primarily attracted by looks so I understand your pain. People preach this 'men care about looks, women care about personality' sh*t but I've never seen any real evidence that is true. However their standards are often reflective of the men they can realistically attain. This means if you are ugly your only hope is to go for very undesirable women. Even then your success rate will be low and require you to meet many women. The same as the average guy can't have any average woman, he has to try it with lots of them before one will accept him.
Another route you could try is plastic surgery and/or steroids to improve your attractiveness.
Alternatively you could attempt to forget about women and be happy without them, this is very difficult but take a look into things like meditation to help you deal with these thoughts of needing female company. You won't die without it, you can be happy without it, its all in your head.
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I'm not attractive but girls are always starting conversations with me because I'm confident and I show it. I don't care what people think of me, I just do what I do. I can be talking about videogames or comic books on purpose to turn them off and yet they ask me questions about them and show interest. They will call me a nerd ot s Comic-Con regular and yet they keep coming back.
I don't really put any efforts and pretend to be cool, I am just that way and that attracts them. There's this girl right now who, supposedly, didn't find me attractive but now she is on my case all the time, teasing me, talking to me and recently she started staring at me, making eye contact and, surprisingly, wearing this bright red lipstick and smiling the whole time she is talking to me, so yes, confidence helps.
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well I wasn't depressed and women still hated me before
Yes it does. I dated a guy who really wasn't good looking but he was so charming, it was never a challenge for him to meet girls, hot girls. And he was good in bed (that helps). But you really do have to change your mindset and believe you're the sh*t. Would you wana date yourself? This question extends beyond your looks. Would you enjoy hanging out with yourself? Become the type of person you'd like to date?
Well it extends further than that, because even if you were good looking nothing about you says "I'm a happy guy, hang out with me". What would you talk about? What would you do together? That's why I ask if you enjoy hanging out with yourself and if you think you're an awesome person. What would change if you were good looking? Maybe you'd get a girlfriend but would it last with all your negativity? I think you're putting looks on a pedestal.
No. You need to re-evaluate your life and expectations. You will get a girlfriend at some point and you'll realize that having her won't immediately make you feel better. Whatever problems you have with yourself will still be there. You need to fix them first. I'd recommend seeing someone about this.
obviously the advice people are giving you is not working out for you. I think you should do some kind of charity or do some volunteering, that way women are forced to talk to you, and with a good impression. Not to say you will get a girlfriend, but you can socialize with women and hopefully make a friend who is a girl and maybe she can help you(there is only so much the internet can help you with) with your women troubles. Plus I think volunteering would give you a better feeling about yourself.
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i do volunteer at the YMCA and sometimes with the school whenever there are opportunities , the rest is too far away from my house . No luck there either . They ignored my hellos and they never spoke to me
I am sorry if I tell you something that you don't wanna hear but as a girl,no confidence won't give any differences if I don't find him physically attractive.I am not sure how do you look like but I don't think you are ugly as how you think.My suggestion is work on your appearance,find out your flaw and appear more attractive than usual.
Have you tried facial hair? Many guys use a particular shape of goatee or beard, even sideburns, to disguise a funny shape jaw (eg if it's weak or small compared with forehead).
I understand how you feeling,cause I have the same feeling when I was in high school. In that period,I was extremely desperate,I was alone,no one talked to me(actually it was me who had no courage to talk to others,because I was in low self-esteem).
But now,I'm feeling better,of couse,I'm still the way I was,I mean,the changed part is my mind,I started to accept myself.I trust myself that I deserve a good return. It's hard for me to describe.In a word,have faith in yourself!
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well I was the same during high school and I'm still this way in uni
Start appreciating things about you and liking yourself. How are you going to find a girl to appreciate you if you can't enjoy anything about yourself? If you just easily tear yourself down like this it will be so much harder to find someone. Once you start appreciating yourself, girls will notice that and it will be so much more attractive. Also, if you meet a girl and you just point out your flaws it's super unattractive.
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girls kept rejecting me that's why I started hating myself
i'd say don't give up. if confidence a lone doesn't work, try humor. I don't know a girl on earth that doesn't like to laugh. You already seem pretty smart, and girls always say they want someone "smart, funny and good looking" maybe with a good joke as an icebreaker you can hold her attention with the first two qualities and she may overlook to last.
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they call us shallow :/ I'm not funny around girls becuase I never get the chance to be
Ok, so yeah pretty much if a girl is not physically attracted to you, your personality will not matter. However, that is a really shallow perspective. All girls are different, all of my friends have completely different taste in guys. To one girl you might be ugly, to another you could be her prince charming. Beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder. But I know you're not looking for cheesy lines like that you are looking for advice. So here I'll try.
I have noticed that nowadays it is harder to meet people because no one goes on dates anymore and everyone seems to be meeting on the internet. So you might want to give that a try. I found this website called skout.com and you can find other singles in your area and chat with them.
Also sometimes, you need change maybe to move somewhere. I live in San francisco and we have just about every kind of person living here you can imagine, I would say if you moved here you would more then likely find someone. Good luck! :)
If there is no initial attraction then most of the time confidence does not matter, well for me at least. I wouldn't be mean or rude like the girls your describing. Usually I would still be friends or get to know the person I'm unattracted to but I wouldn't lead them on in any way. But to be honest I've started to like someone I once thought was unattracted before just because I liked their personality. Maybe you just need to boost your self esteem a little.
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girls aren't letting me talk to them. They ignore me at hello until I have nothing to say .
Confidence is a trait that does attract people so if you're ugly but very confident with a very vibrant personality, then you should be fine. If you're not confident and you're not good looking, then you kind of fade into the background which is never good.
I doubt you're as ugly as you make yourself out to be. You're as good looking as you feel. Never give up on the gym or your life for that matter over such a trivial thing. Even the ugliest people in the world (and even the fattest man in the world) have gotten married or have partners so you will find one one day, you just need to be patient and not be so down on yourself.
I hope I don't come off as a total douche(because I don't mean to), but if you say that girls run away from you and won't talk to you because of your appearance, maybe its because you are chasing some of the better looking girls? Maybe you should try being with a girl who's less attractive?
Wow I sound like a jerk -_- I'm sorry
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well you didn't read the question because I only go after the average looking and above because they deserve better than me . I go after girls I don't find attractive
An answer like you're ugly and girls will never date you even if you have a cool personality, will get you upset, or it will make you happy to indulge in pity.
And any positive answer of encouragement will get shot down as cliche.
What's the solution?
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positive answers ? theyre telling me to do things that I've already done and failed at . and telling me "be positive " doesn't work . Its not easy as they make it seem
So, if both positive and negative answers won't work, and you've tried everything a community of anonymous people hundreds of miles away would likely suggest, what option is there? Aside from seeking attention. Pity is an addictive drug, man.
it makes me feel better . 2 years I wasted at the gym for nothing. Hurting myself didn't make me feel better . Taking multiple prozac pills didn't help me
Honestly, trying to talk to a girl hoping that she might someday be your girlfriend is the worst mistake you can make. It just screams desperation - which is a turn off, no matter how good looking or confident you may be. Just let go- focus on being a sensitive, good mannered guy instead. If you frequent a particular place such as office or college, girls around you will take notice. If you accidentaly start talking to a girl, don't jump in by asking her out at the first chance. For people who are not very fortunate looking, things like romance happen slowly. But it does happen.
I'm with you my man. The greatest thing you can learn in life is that none of those things you mentioned really matter in the bigger scheme of things. Once you have nothing to lose, you can simply be what you want to be. Eat, drink, be merry and do good in what you can, and let the rest over to the wind, then blessings will not stop coming your way.
I think it is important.People often say that there is pressure just has power.But I think self-confidence also can give people power.If you have the pressure ,unfortunately
you also know you will not come true your dream,what will you do?On the contrary, if you believe you can succeed, if you can flay you move forward
Yes confidence counts no matter what you look like. No female wants a man that has no confidence in himself. I'm not gonna give you a pep talk all I'm gonna say is walk with your head held high because without confidence in yourself how can anyone else see you let alone what to get to know you
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before I believed I was worth something , girls still hated me
Yes I believe it will you see there are females out there who will look beyond looks and see the heart and personality of the man. Trust me I know cause I'm one of those females. I use to be just like you I thought I was ugly and and that no man would ever want me but I came to realize that I had to see myself as beautiful and have confidence in myself before anyone else would. You have to do the same not for some girl but simply for yourself.
Look that's the problem you are letting others decide how you should feel about yourself you are the only one who can make a difference those of us that have giving you their honest advice but at the end of the day you have to decide to have that confidence in yourself
Look there is really nothin else I can say if you are gonna let how others see you define who you are no woman wants a man like that if you are gonna let what some girl who sees nothing but your outer appearance define you I have to ask why did you even bother to ask that question if you just gonna keep downing yourself. True confidence starts with you not anyone else and that's something you have to learn on your own
The rest you have to decide I know when I was dealing with the same thing it helped to remind myself of all my positive traits but also to just stop worrying about finding someone and enjoy my life it seemed that when I showed people that what they said ain't bother me they started to see me in a different light I met 2 guys both of who like me and all I did was change how I saw myself and stopped stressing
Perhaps, you are just having a bad luck at meeting women.
After all, some women will not like you not matter what, but some women will like you no matter what. All you're doing will soon reap big rewards. You simply have to approach a lots of women.
Alright bro, there are a million responses so I apologize if I repeated anything.
But I have questions for you-
What are you actually saying to girls? What makes you believe that the rejection is based off your looks, and not your approach? For all we know you can be walking like a nervous creepy guy and mumbling words to them with a low tone of voice. So what are you saying and how are you saying it?
You say you go to the gym, but are you jacked? I don't care what girls say, but physique does matter. It matters big time. Girls love jacked guys. You may be fit and you may go to the gym, but are you jacked? Physically imposing? There are so many little things that matter.
I ask these questions because I know so many dudes that blame their failure with women on their height and looks, rather than really examining what they are doing.
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Confidence could be useful in most cases, but you don't nessisarily need it to get a girl. Believe it or not there ARE women out there that don't care about looks or how a man dresses. They just look at his heart and go from there:). That's what I usually do. You'll find the right woman but it just takes time and patience. Trust me, being patient will definitely be worth it when your happy as can be with her(: Do you like to read? Maybe you could go to a library or a church. Good nice girls could be there. Don't go out to clubs and what not more shallow girls tend to bein those spots but then again every girl is different and they have their own hobbies so idk. I wish you the best of luck sir... Your life is very meanigful and you HAVE a purpose in this world. You don't need a women to complete your life. Remember that:)
the same guy who came up with confidence (maslow) said that its necesary to fulfill sexual needs and be loved ( I've been waiting for 19 years , is that not patient enough ? )
Just keep on doin what your doin
Women are primarily attracted by looks so I understand your pain. People preach this 'men care about looks, women care about personality' sh*t but I've never seen any real evidence that is true. However their standards are often reflective of the men they can realistically attain. This means if you are ugly your only hope is to go for very undesirable women. Even then your success rate will be low and require you to meet many women. The same as the average guy can't have any average woman, he has to try it with lots of them before one will accept him.
Another route you could try is plastic surgery and/or steroids to improve your attractiveness.
Alternatively you could attempt to forget about women and be happy without them, this is very difficult but take a look into things like meditation to help you deal with these thoughts of needing female company. You won't die without it, you can be happy without it, its all in your head.
I'm not attractive but girls are always starting conversations with me because I'm confident and I show it. I don't care what people think of me, I just do what I do. I can be talking about videogames or comic books on purpose to turn them off and yet they ask me questions about them and show interest. They will call me a nerd ot s Comic-Con regular and yet they keep coming back.
I don't really put any efforts and pretend to be cool, I am just that way and that attracts them. There's this girl right now who, supposedly, didn't find me attractive but now she is on my case all the time, teasing me, talking to me and recently she started staring at me, making eye contact and, surprisingly, wearing this bright red lipstick and smiling the whole time she is talking to me, so yes, confidence helps.
well I wasn't depressed and women still hated me before
Yes it does. I dated a guy who really wasn't good looking but he was so charming, it was never a challenge for him to meet girls, hot girls. And he was good in bed (that helps). But you really do have to change your mindset and believe you're the sh*t. Would you wana date yourself? This question extends beyond your looks. Would you enjoy hanging out with yourself? Become the type of person you'd like to date?
if I was good looking then yes
Well it extends further than that, because even if you were good looking nothing about you says "I'm a happy guy, hang out with me". What would you talk about? What would you do together? That's why I ask if you enjoy hanging out with yourself and if you think you're an awesome person. What would change if you were good looking? Maybe you'd get a girlfriend but would it last with all your negativity? I think you're putting looks on a pedestal.
if I get a girlfriend then all my problems are solved
im negative because I don't have one and never did .it would change if someone says yes
No. You need to re-evaluate your life and expectations. You will get a girlfriend at some point and you'll realize that having her won't immediately make you feel better. Whatever problems you have with yourself will still be there. You need to fix them first. I'd recommend seeing someone about this.
i have no trouble with my life except that so that's all I need
obviously the advice people are giving you is not working out for you. I think you should do some kind of charity or do some volunteering, that way women are forced to talk to you, and with a good impression. Not to say you will get a girlfriend, but you can socialize with women and hopefully make a friend who is a girl and maybe she can help you(there is only so much the internet can help you with) with your women troubles. Plus I think volunteering would give you a better feeling about yourself.
i do volunteer at the YMCA and sometimes with the school whenever there are opportunities , the rest is too far away from my house . No luck there either . They ignored my hellos and they never spoke to me
I am sorry if I tell you something that you don't wanna hear but as a girl,no confidence won't give any differences if I don't find him physically attractive.I am not sure how do you look like but I don't think you are ugly as how you think.My suggestion is work on your appearance,find out your flaw and appear more attractive than usual.
ugly facial structure is unfixable
Have you tried facial hair? Many guys use a particular shape of goatee or beard, even sideburns, to disguise a funny shape jaw (eg if it's weak or small compared with forehead).
i tried , it doesn't really hide anything . I'm don't get too much hair
Well,how about this:
I understand how you feeling,cause I have the same feeling when I was in high school. In that period,I was extremely desperate,I was alone,no one talked to me(actually it was me who had no courage to talk to others,because I was in low self-esteem).
But now,I'm feeling better,of couse,I'm still the way I was,I mean,the changed part is my mind,I started to accept myself.I trust myself that I deserve a good return. It's hard for me to describe.In a word,have faith in yourself!
well I was the same during high school and I'm still this way in uni
Start appreciating things about you and liking yourself. How are you going to find a girl to appreciate you if you can't enjoy anything about yourself? If you just easily tear yourself down like this it will be so much harder to find someone. Once you start appreciating yourself, girls will notice that and it will be so much more attractive. Also, if you meet a girl and you just point out your flaws it's super unattractive.
girls kept rejecting me that's why I started hating myself
i'd say don't give up. if confidence a lone doesn't work, try humor. I don't know a girl on earth that doesn't like to laugh. You already seem pretty smart, and girls always say they want someone "smart, funny and good looking" maybe with a good joke as an icebreaker you can hold her attention with the first two qualities and she may overlook to last.
they call us shallow :/ I'm not funny around girls becuase I never get the chance to be
Ok, so yeah pretty much if a girl is not physically attracted to you, your personality will not matter. However, that is a really shallow perspective. All girls are different, all of my friends have completely different taste in guys. To one girl you might be ugly, to another you could be her prince charming. Beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder. But I know you're not looking for cheesy lines like that you are looking for advice. So here I'll try.
I have noticed that nowadays it is harder to meet people because no one goes on dates anymore and everyone seems to be meeting on the internet. So you might want to give that a try. I found this website called skout.com and you can find other singles in your area and chat with them.
Also sometimes, you need change maybe to move somewhere. I live in San francisco and we have just about every kind of person living here you can imagine, I would say if you moved here you would more then likely find someone. Good luck! :)
i failed at online dating
If there is no initial attraction then most of the time confidence does not matter, well for me at least. I wouldn't be mean or rude like the girls your describing. Usually I would still be friends or get to know the person I'm unattracted to but I wouldn't lead them on in any way. But to be honest I've started to like someone I once thought was unattracted before just because I liked their personality. Maybe you just need to boost your self esteem a little.
girls aren't letting me talk to them. They ignore me at hello until I have nothing to say .
Maybe there's something wrong with the girls your around. It's dumb to ignore someone like that.
Have you joined any clubs lately or made some guy friends. Your guy friends could help you get girls.
im in many clubs. I'm terrible at social interactions but I have a few guy friends and they keep me away whenever they have a girl or girls
Confidence is a trait that does attract people so if you're ugly but very confident with a very vibrant personality, then you should be fine. If you're not confident and you're not good looking, then you kind of fade into the background which is never good.
I doubt you're as ugly as you make yourself out to be. You're as good looking as you feel. Never give up on the gym or your life for that matter over such a trivial thing. Even the ugliest people in the world (and even the fattest man in the world) have gotten married or have partners so you will find one one day, you just need to be patient and not be so down on yourself.
if I feel good looking . I still am ugly to women
If you feel good looking, it'll bring confidence.
and how will that make women not disgusted by my face ?
They'll fall for your personality and who you are. You will find a girl who will match your 'league' one day, be patient.
I hope I don't come off as a total douche(because I don't mean to), but if you say that girls run away from you and won't talk to you because of your appearance, maybe its because you are chasing some of the better looking girls? Maybe you should try being with a girl who's less attractive?
Wow I sound like a jerk -_- I'm sorry
well you didn't read the question because I only go after the average looking and above because they deserve better than me . I go after girls I don't find attractive
There's your problem right there...approach girls around the same caliber of attractiveness.
oh I'm sorry it was a typo , I mean I approach girls I don't find attractive because the average to attractive can get better men than me
Well, here's an honest answer.
An answer like you're ugly and girls will never date you even if you have a cool personality, will get you upset, or it will make you happy to indulge in pity.
And any positive answer of encouragement will get shot down as cliche.
What's the solution?
positive answers ? theyre telling me to do things that I've already done and failed at . and telling me "be positive " doesn't work . Its not easy as they make it seem
So, if both positive and negative answers won't work, and you've tried everything a community of anonymous people hundreds of miles away would likely suggest, what option is there? Aside from seeking attention. Pity is an addictive drug, man.
it makes me feel better . 2 years I wasted at the gym for nothing. Hurting myself didn't make me feel better . Taking multiple prozac pills didn't help me
Honestly, trying to talk to a girl hoping that she might someday be your girlfriend is the worst mistake you can make. It just screams desperation - which is a turn off, no matter how good looking or confident you may be. Just let go- focus on being a sensitive, good mannered guy instead. If you frequent a particular place such as office or college, girls around you will take notice. If you accidentaly start talking to a girl, don't jump in by asking her out at the first chance. For people who are not very fortunate looking, things like romance happen slowly. But it does happen.
I'm with you my man. The greatest thing you can learn in life is that none of those things you mentioned really matter in the bigger scheme of things. Once you have nothing to lose, you can simply be what you want to be. Eat, drink, be merry and do good in what you can, and let the rest over to the wind, then blessings will not stop coming your way.
I think it is important.People often say that there is pressure just has power.But I think self-confidence also can give people power.If you have the pressure ,unfortunately
you also know you will not come true your dream,what will you do?On the contrary, if you believe you can succeed, if you can flay you move forward
Yes confidence counts no matter what you look like. No female wants a man that has no confidence in himself. I'm not gonna give you a pep talk all I'm gonna say is walk with your head held high because without confidence in yourself how can anyone else see you let alone what to get to know you
before I believed I was worth something , girls still hated me
It shouldn't matter what girls thing of you it matters what you think of yourself
will that get a girlfriend ?
Yes I believe it will you see there are females out there who will look beyond looks and see the heart and personality of the man. Trust me I know cause I'm one of those females. I use to be just like you I thought I was ugly and and that no man would ever want me but I came to realize that I had to see myself as beautiful and have confidence in myself before anyone else would. You have to do the same not for some girl but simply for yourself.
well I used to think I was worth something before , I was treated the same as I am now
Look that's the problem you are letting others decide how you should feel about yourself you are the only one who can make a difference those of us that have giving you their honest advice but at the end of the day you have to decide to have that confidence in yourself
well how do I get that when women keep telling me I'm worthless/ugly/pathetic/loser/going to die alone ?
Look there is really nothin else I can say if you are gonna let how others see you define who you are no woman wants a man like that if you are gonna let what some girl who sees nothing but your outer appearance define you I have to ask why did you even bother to ask that question if you just gonna keep downing yourself. True confidence starts with you not anyone else and that's something you have to learn on your own
how do I start ?
First stop talking in the negative about yourself that's the first thing you have to do
ok then what?
The rest you have to decide I know when I was dealing with the same thing it helped to remind myself of all my positive traits but also to just stop worrying about finding someone and enjoy my life it seemed that when I showed people that what they said ain't bother me they started to see me in a different light I met 2 guys both of who like me and all I did was change how I saw myself and stopped stressing
how long did it take ?
look that's something I can't help you with how long it takes depends on you
how long did it take you ?
it took awhile for me but I had help
yes I have no help :/ only more girls to tell me that I'm not worth anything
Those efforts should be working by now.
Perhaps, you are just having a bad luck at meeting women.
After all, some women will not like you not matter what, but some women will like you no matter what. All you're doing will soon reap big rewards. You simply have to approach a lots of women.
i do . no woman likes me
Alright bro, there are a million responses so I apologize if I repeated anything.
But I have questions for you-
What are you actually saying to girls? What makes you believe that the rejection is based off your looks, and not your approach? For all we know you can be walking like a nervous creepy guy and mumbling words to them with a low tone of voice. So what are you saying and how are you saying it?
You say you go to the gym, but are you jacked? I don't care what girls say, but physique does matter. It matters big time. Girls love jacked guys. You may be fit and you may go to the gym, but are you jacked? Physically imposing? There are so many little things that matter.
I ask these questions because I know so many dudes that blame their failure with women on their height and looks, rather than really examining what they are doing.