my face does not have acne (well it used to )
please do not say go to the gym(I already do)
please do not say make friends with girls (girls aren't letting me talk to them in the first place )
please do not say shower and dress well ( I already do )
It seems like you're setting yourself up for failure. People here are giving you their honest opinion and advice, and what do you do? You deny all of it. Why did you even ask this question if all you're gonna do is sit there and tell people what NOT to answer? You've basically listed all the things that people WANT to answer! And why do they want to write answers with those things? Because they're TRUE. They WORK. But they won't work if you don't let them!
"Please no "believe in yourself" answers and " think positively " ( I've seen good looking depressed guys get girls )" Obviously. They have the advantage of being handsome. According to you, you don't have that advantage. So, what do you have to do? Act as confident and positive as you can. That's the only thing you can work with. I'm sorry, but it's true. There's no point in trying to deny that. If all you do is act pitiful, sad and negative, then no wonder girls don't like you.
Also, I'm finding it VERY hard to believe that absolutely no girl even lets you talk to them. If literally nobody has wanted to talk to you so far, I think you're trying to pursue the wrong girls. These girls obviously have a sh*tty personality if they just flat out ignore you like that. Go for the girls who actually have a heart.
Also, having girlfriends and friends who are girls is not everything in life. Not even close. Why would you let some girl's opinion of you decide who you are or who you should be? I'm sorry, but that's pathetic. There's so much more to life than hitting on girls and going on dates. Loving yourself is much more important than having someone else love you. You're going to live with yourself for the rest of your life, so you better get comfortable in your own skin. And really, girls DO appreciate that. Try to wrap your mind around it.
You can't do anything now but get up and try again. Everybody gets rejected in life somehow, whether it's by a crush, by a company you wrote a job application to, by people you want to be friends with and so on. It's a part of life. If you can't handle it, then maybe you should just give up on it and try something else.
ive been trying for years now , and everyone assumes that I hate myself since I was a kid . I used to think I was worth something but constant rejection showed me I'm trash
I want a girl to date me and if all girls call or think I'm ugly , I should care
Have you met every single girl on the planet? No. Then you can't say that all girls call you or think you're ugly. Have you ever thought about dating a blind girl? She wouldn't give a f*** about what you look like, she'd only care about your personality. There ARE girls in this world who would want to be with you. And not all of them are blind, either.
try being ugly then you can relate
Oppaoppa, whereas you do make some very good points, you're kind of underestimating how hard wired humans are for sex and physical contact. If loving yourself is more important than others loving you, we could all be content to live in solitary confinement. I would say loving yourself makes it easier for others to love you, but romantic contact with humans is in fact extremely important, and there is a host of studies demonstrating this. If anything, people who have more sex tend to live longer.
K... First no1 is UGLY there are more and less attractive people. I know that sounds like a bunch of crap but, its the truth. The only time when ugly does exist are the people who are csusing you to feel this way. I had a hard time & thought I was hidious and I was a model.
Don't be discouraged you can get a girl trust me, I've seen really "ugly" guys get "ugly" decent, pretty, and fine girls. Just the same way I've seen "ugly" girls get the finest boys strange enough. (my bad I'm being a hater)
Ugly is a state of mind... If your not happy with your appearance change it there's small ways to improve yourself and then there's dramatic changes. Like you said you work out, well I for one and other girls think guys with a pack and muscles are sexy. K so you might not have the cutest face but that doesn't make you ugly. Unless your thinking about going under the knife to fix your problem I say adjust to it... YOUR THE ONLY You U HAVE! Trust there are a million things that I don't like about myself, but I just got over it. That's how you & I are made to look. So accept & embrace it.
I truley don't know why girls won't give you their time, you may not be the hotest but you may be the sweetest but who knows... Its like the saying Don't Judge a Book By its Cover. Has anyone ever noticed pretty people are usually jerks.
If your still frustrated at yourself you could try chasing the girls like that woman does the guy (jk) but girls do and will want you if not there's always strippers and prostitutes to keep you happ. But if love is what you want don't expect live from someone else if you don't even love yourself.
P.S. Confidence is a bunch of crap it is just a better word for cocky. You don't seem very confident the way you keep downing yourself so you have nothing to worry about. & I'm glad your face doesn't atrract girls because its not supppse to if you attract a lot of girls purely off of looks then all you will get is sex not love and you can simply pay for sex.
(I hope this helps)
xoxo Monae
you truly confused me there , if I accept that I am ugly and embrace it . Girls will still find me ugly
Hell to the NO you should not. Honestly, yes, looks do matter a little bit. Looks are the first thing that attract you to a person. But for me, I would take a smart, funny, nerdy, average looking guy over a gorgeous guy with a tan and muscles, but no personality. Have you ever been on YouTube? hahah, that was a stupid question to ask. I mean, who hasn't. BUT, there's a YouTube channel called simplepickuplines and it's basically a group of nerdy guys who use pick up lines to pick up women, and they are not the best looking guys, but BOY CAN THEY PICK UP WOMAN lol. They're so confident and hilarious that their personality overpowers their looks. And to be honest if I was being hit on by them . . I would give them my number because they seem so fun and interesting to be around. I love that in people. So, no you should not give up. Just talk to a girl as if you were her friend, and don't make it seem like you're trying to pick her up. & then who knows, maybe your friendship will turn into something more. & confidence is never a bad thing, it just means you're comfortable with who you are and you're not afraid to show it to other people. But I mean just because you're not this overly-confident guy doesn't mean you will never get a girl. I think some shy guys are adorable, so it's okay to be a little shy at first. But honestly, you don't have to be the most beautiful man on this planet for a girl to like you. Take that from me, I am a female. I've also known guys in the past who I wasn't initially attracted to in the beginning, but their personality made them appear more attractive. For me, an ugly personality destroys a pretty face. Soooooo, just be yourself, as cliche as that sounds. Eventually, someone is going to like you and think you're a hunk ;) hahah.
they are not ugly + they live in CA , which is very different +girls don't let me talk to them , howcan I be theyre friend ? its been 19 years and still no girl found me attractive
Do you work anywhere? & honestly it doesn't take a lot to please a girl. Just be charming, and funny. For me, having a sense of humor is number one lol. Give a random knock knock joke lol. Say hi. Anything. I refuse to believe you're this disgusting creature that no one wants to talk to -__- about Simplepickup . . they're not extremely attractive either lol. But yet, they find ways to talk to girls. Or you can always try christian mingle, lol . . Less talking . . alotttttaaaaa more mingling (;
im not funny with women , because I never get the chance to be .I don't know what charming means .
Confident people don't care if there rejected, they see it as the other persons loss not there's because they know who they are and are sure of themselves, if you walk up to a girl and she ignores you the whole time that is a terrible person and you shouldn't give your time to such a nasty person, if you see something like that make sure to let them know there being rude or be gentleman and walk away, lol but I rather be rude cause I can't stand rude or ignorant behavior, on top of that going to bar/club to meet women is not the ideal choice because most shallow women end up there and there dressed to perfection and trying to get a guy who isn't in there league with all there camoflage on so it isn't the best choice, you also need goals you want to accomplish that will distract you from the pursuit of women like writing a book, making a cartoon, curing cancer, inventing something, training for the x games etc. etc... Going to the gym and dressing well only works when your overweight and you fallen into the bad habits of wearing sweats lol... Girls want you to be in shape not overly in shape just no gut, the whole dress well thing is misunderstood by many... There's a time and a place for dressing well don't wear button up shirts or collar'd shirts if you don't need to, dress comfortable and make sure your presentable that's all. Here's some old dating philosophy if you can't be happy alone you can't be happy with anyone else. Suicide is never the option would you really take your life because some nasty chick didn't give you the time of day? I rather die accomplishing a great feet or creating something used by many versus killing myself because some shallow chick at the bar ignored me, asking women out is a percentage game and the percentage is always low so if you ask 20 girls out chances are one out of 20 may say yes and that ratio gets worse lol could be one out 50 girls say yes... if she's not interested even if you have the convo it's not like what you say or do will change her mind anyway so just move on
I was in the same boat 3 years ago hope that helpd
it wasn't one girl . It was many . I can't go into bars yet . I'm not 21 . I've been rejected/ignored by over a 100 now . None said yes
Your not 21 yet lol then why are you taking things so seriously? I'm 25 years old, a virgin, and I've never had a girl friend and I've been rejected a lot of times but I'm not gonna commit suicide because girls won't give me the time of day... You age bracket sucks for women because all the girls your age want older dudes who are more established, do you know how many older guys have taken women from me because they have a car and a apartment? Countless times >.<
Confidence for an ugly man is about as helpful and useful as a lighter underwater is.
HAHAHA
I should mention too, people on here say try to have an attractive personality. I tell you instead, it doesn't matter if you are physically ugly - they don't care what your personality is like, you're ugly, they won't even bother to know you. Anyone on here disagreeing simply never has been ugly, period.
I have to admit, although I've always believed personality was important, I didn't realize how important until I met this guy. Basically, a bunch of girls were going on and on about this "Philip" bloke who was so handsome and was so this and that, so obviously my friends and I were intrigued. When we finally met this guy, we were a little disappointed to find that he really wasn't that attractive - he had a pretty odd, round face and thinning hair. But after spending a little time with this guy,
well, that you personally didn't find him attractive does not preclude that those girls did not.
WTF LOOL
I can't even get a male friend to
Thats not true! well at least not completely... I would say for most girls that is true... but I find a guy who is pretty comfortble in his own skin and confident attractive... If he is physically not attractive, then a tiny bit of awkwardness makes him charming and showing off what he does have sexy... so if your smart show it off in small doses, make her laugh, be smooth... girls like me (outgoing and runs half in the popular crowd half in the deep secluded art kid side) will fall for you :)
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"Please no "believe in yourself" answers and " think positively " ( I've seen good looking depressed guys get girls)" ...of course they do, because they are outwardly attractive, they can pout at the bar and people will overlook it because they're cute...no one ever said that pretty people don't have a natural advantage, they do, life's unfair suck it up and deal with it.
You just have to work harder like all of us normal, average looking people do., people can't see your attractive qualities, you have to show it to them, give them a reason to like you, remember "hot" and "attractive" are two different things, being hot is an attractive quality, but so is confidence, leadership, humour... no you're not going to win over every single girl just by being happy and bubbly and confident, you are still going to get rejected some, but you'll definitely be in a much stronger position,
You imply girls literally won't let you talk to them in any social setting?...i highly doubt that.
you say you work out and are well groomed and hygienic, add to this confidence, a sense of humour and an open, friendly demeanor and there is no way you would universally shunned by every female on the planet just you just because you are ugly. It doesn't happen.
If chicks refuse to even be your friend you there is obviously a bigger problem going on than looks that you are not facing.
it could be that you're projecting awkward/ negative image unbeknownst to you or that you unintentionally give the impression that you are in fact trying to hit on girls when you're not ( if you are approaching girls in places like bars for example they are always going to assume you are trying to make a move),
but if you work on just being social and meeting friends of friends, you're going to eventually going to find someone who likes you just the way you are.
im not average .I don't want to win all girls . I just want someone . And I'm not funny with girls because I can't say anything when they never reply .What I mean is they quickly reject me or ignore me and barely reply until I have nothing to say , and sometimes they just walk away . I can't go to bars yet (and I don't want to because there are better men there) and I said this before , my few friends don't invite me to anything when they have girls ( they are all average-attractive looking btw)
from what you say then it's obviously a social problem not an ugly problem, like I said before, if you were *successfully* projecting yourself as a nice, confident, friendly, non-threatening dude, then there's no way these girls would be stonewalling you the way you describe, If your friends aren't invitng you to their parties then you either need new friends or need to consider that maybe there is something in your personality that makes you awkward to be around that you could work on.
its not really social . I'm always normal around guys , but girls have called me ugly before , and one labeled me as "ew"
you truly don't know how hideous I look . I got a 3.4 on this site
ill send to you in private
+overweight people can get girlfriends . I'm not overweight
guess you don't want a pic ?
"there is no way you would universally shunned by every female on the planet"
yeah he could, if his face is anything like mine, trust me...
The hell with the hotties. Women can talk all they want about how confidence and personality will win their hearts, it still comes down to appearance, wealth and everything else on their long list of expectations. If personality and confidence really matter that much, you would see far more women dating/marrying/screwing in the first place. Reality being what it is...
Go for the average to ugly women. They are much more down to earth than the prestine, pretentious babes that truly think their muffins are only for immortals. Keep at the gym, a healthy body leads to a healthy mind. Plus, you never know when you need to run for your life, fight for your life, or just plain work hard. Suicidal thoughts? There is a lifesaving solution...AND IT AIN'T BELIEVING IN THE LORD!
Hire some top dollar sex workers. I've always found it ironic that the same hot women who wouldn't give you the time of day, would screw your brains out for a few hundred dollars as escorts. Trust me, after a good night of sex, your thoughts of self-termination will go away. Depression sucks, vent that stuff with a good few hours of PlayStation...it REALLY works.
The point I'm making is that there are alternatives, use them. You don't need drugs, booze or smokes. So what if the best looking women won't take you, could be a blessing in the long run. If they turn their backs on you...YOU TURN YOUR BACK ON THEM!
Now save up some money, buy you a high dollar Canadian escort and make merry. Hope this helps
i go for women I don't find attractive
Well ofcourse confidence (not cockiness) still matters whether you are attractive or ugly. there's nothing uglier than a person with very low self esteem or false modesty. I know this male friend who is good looking enough (manly, chiselled features), and like false modesty bragging like 'yay some girls still paid me attention when I went on a trip, I still got it', I hate that sh*t. First, be someone that people are not going to hate. I am not sure why no girl lets you talk to them, but I for one am still gonna speak to someone even if they were ugly, and surely can be friends with someone even if they were not attractive to me. I guess you should look at why NO girl talks to you. Its not because you are ugly, there's a lot of ugly people out there with girlfriends.
The real answer is, if there is no initial attraction, regardless of whether you are an attractive or not person, it doesn't work. Its hard even for average looking or beautiful people to find a partner. Its just not as easy as people make it seem. If you are acting like you will date anyone, you will send everyone running for the hills. at least have some kind of criteria of what you want, someone warm, nice, loving, etc, and stick with that. And compliment them on that if you find someone nice. Give compliments on anything you find nice, their hair their smile etc. Flattery is flattering. And this kind of stuff is nothing to die over. I'm above average attractive and I'm not suicidal for not having a boyfriend. You don't need to die over this kind of thing. It's not a race to win someones approval or be accepted, you have to at least like yourself. if you kinda talked about yourself the way you did in this question, it wouldn't be surprising if no one wanted to be with you, cos you made it sound more hopeless than it is. there are burn victims with gfs.
they are lucky . I am socially awkward and ugly . Women view me as "a piece of sh*t made to make the world an uglier place"
Did they really say that though? Look I mean, most people who are not attracted to some particular person, don't even think about them. They are basically invisible to them. and in the same way you should stop giving a hoot about what they think of you and not give a **** about them. don't give a ****. you're not the only ugly or socially awkward person ever existed. And there are some people with more tragic lives even when they are not physically unattractive.
i lived in a crappy third world country for 14 years , no one cared about me so I'm not going to care about them . And yes I've been called ugly by girls who are really unattractive themselves
Stop looking down at yourself. Despite how you look like, if you tell everyone that you're ugly, than they're going to think you are. Looks aren't everything. Personality matters the most. People with skin problems that make them not even look normal have found love. Do you know why? Because of their kind hearts. Telling everyone that you're ugly is a worse trait than being ugly. If you more confident, and learn to love the look God gave you, than I am pretty sure that Some day, there will be a girl who will like you just the way you are. You ask people if confidence and when we tell you that it does, and does change someone's view, you don't believe us and assume that we're lying. Have some faith in yourself and know this: you must first love yourself before you let others love you. There is no such thing as ugly or beautiful. That's made up by the society, and the meaning of what is attractive will also change over time. Physical beauty is socially constructed, but the inner beauty has always remained still. Trust me, by having some confidence in yourself, and loving yourself, others will accept you too.
i don't tell anyone outside the internet that I'm ugly , but girls still hate me
I go for intelligence, competence, kindness and humour more than looks, any day! Confidence is attractive, but not cockiness - just being at ease with yourself.
It's possible you're giving off a 'desperate' signal - girls mightn't want to chat because they sense you're trying too hard and you want something from them. Also that you don't like yourself.
If you haven't already, try striking up brief convos with girls where it's 'work' not 'social', eg the cashier at the supermarket or the girl working at the bank... Keep it light and short, make a rule that you'll never try and get a number so you know there's nothing at stake. Once you get relaxed about talking to girls where there's no agenda, it's easier talking to them when you do want it to lead somewhere :)
And please do not think about self harm. Your life is important Don't give superficial women that much power over you to make you feel this bad. Do not give up - there are nice girls out there. Make a plan. When you start to accept yourself more I really believe the ladies will follow your lead!
i never said its hard to talk to girls . They just don't let me talk to them
I think it has to be the vibe you're giving. You said you don't have any friends who can help give you feedback - do you have a brother or sister who could help? Does your uni have a counsellor that students can see for free? Also you're probably still growing into your adult looks so you may be happier with how you look in a year or two - a lot of people who weren't good-looking in teens grow to be nice-looking as adults :)
counselor here is 40$ an hour . 50$ for non students . And only a 8 year old brother . I'm 19 , I think I'm done growing
Don't mean height growth. Your face keeps changing throughout life, from baby to senior citizen. Some people look their best as a teen, others settle into their looks later. There was a geeky looking guy I had a crush on in late high school, a couple of years into uni he looked hot.
I saw in one of the other questions quite a few guys on this site haven't kissed a girl and are 19/20. I didn't have my first boyfriend til 19. Don't give up hope; many just start to have success at your age.
i mean my face isn't changing anymore untill I get old which is going to be worse
It happens the whole way through life, it's just subtle til the ageing signs get more noticeable like grey hair lol :) I don't want to be rude, but in one comment - if I read it correctly - you said you're in Canada and another, Lebanon...are you legit?
i study in ca but for Easter I visited my family . I'm in leb now
I see, well if it's any help I've been guilty of stone-walling guys a few times (trying to ignore / give brief answers to make them go away) - it's never because of how the guy looks, it's always because I don't want to be hit on, ie I'm not looking to meet a guy. Where I live blokes don't bother to approach girls to just have a nice chat, they're always wanting something more. So as a girl the best way to handle it is to 'shut it down' right away, politely but with no room for misunderstanding.
but its just sad being lonely
Your problem is your negative attitude and aura. Girls are attracted to guys that are happy and pleasant to be around. It is an instant turn off to a girl for a guy to think they are ugly, you don't have to be cocky but you have to stop telling yourself you are ugly. First of all, girls have ugliness complexes and don't need or want guys that instead of reassuring them how gorgeous they are will say well at least you're better looking than me. Secondly no girl wants to wear the pants in the relationship so if you are all about how ugly you are and how no one wants you, of course they're not going to want to talk to you because that shows you are emotionally needy. Also you have to pick girls that you have things in common with and talk to them about normal things like let's say you're in class talk to a girl sitting next to you about the class you are in, ask her for a pencil or something. Then ask how her day is and what her name is. Compliments and being hit on are a guaranteed way to get a girl to think you're creepy. Add confidence issues and you're probably coming off as needy and creepy.
Luckily this is so easy to fix: stop feeling sorry for yourself. You are not ugly (please note even ugly guys can get girls because they are nice and approachable and make the girl feel good). Tell yourself you are a good person and attractive to someone every day and smile more often especially hen you go to talk to girls make eye contact and do not touch them unless they touch you.
i don't tell them I think I'm ugly or complain about anything . A girl would end all my depression
There is the flaw in your thinking. No girl wants to be responsible for a guys happiness entirely. That's called being emotionally needy and making her wear the pants. You can't get into a relationship and be happy unless you are happy yourself too. And happiness is a choice to notice the good in your life and focus on it instead of the bad.
you really don't get it . I have went up to girls and said hello they said no . They do not know anything about me and they just rejected me . So negative attitude has nothingt do with it
Yes I do and yes it does. Please pay attention to what I said. You cannot go up to a random girl and say hi duh they're gonna be creeped out and intimidated and turned off. You need to at least be a familiar face, hang out with their guy friends, sit next to them in class then talk casually. Do not expect her to be attracted to you, approach as a friend.
no girl allows me to be her friend +the few guys who I'm friends with never invite me to anything when there are girls with them
+alot of better guys than me do it and they succeed
First of all, don't categorized yourself as bottom trash of males. You can try to be beautiful on the inside. Do good! nah, I am not trying to be all saint or anything of that sort, just that girls find guys that do good deeds super attractive!
Those little things like giving up seats for old people, donating blood, donating money even a little, volunteering and what not; it's amazing. Be there when the needy needs help.
And suicidal? seriously? Your life is more valuable than that. And don't try too hard to impress, just be yourself. Don't blow your own trumpet! Let them shine on its own.
And fyi most girls don't judge a guy straight up based on their looks, at least your look won't be the first criteria girls look at before deciding whether they would talk to you. Girls that actually do, you should call yourself lucky for not having anything to do with them. They judge a book by its cover so why bother talking to them? It's their lost I guess? well, of course unless you have a "black heart"? not literally.
And don't settle for girls that are desperate. Look for one that actually cares. You are still so young, what's the rush? If you are nice and have a beautiful heart to begin with, the right one will come to you =) Trust me. Have a little more faith in yourself.
its just been too long and my uni life is going terrible
First of all. Why should you care? Ask yourself. Do you need to date? If everyone is really so judgmental, are they really worth dating?
You have made it a fact in your head that that's true, and as long as you believe it... You won't be able to see the diamonds in the rough. You'll only see the ugly people(aka the people with bad attitudes, and hateful or judgey opinions).
To answer your question: "Does confidence matter when you are ugly?" Yes. Confidence is the ONLY thing that matters. Because you cannot change your appearance. Or even if you can, what little bit you can change will never matter, because it is confidence that is beautiful. It is love for yourself that people see.
Yes, there are few exceptions. Superficial people seeking superficial looks...but are those relationships even worth anything? If they are really that shallow than they must be quite miserable.
I've been considered both unattractive(when I developed horrible acne)...and attractive by the general majority...but it's done NOTHING for my self esteem I can tell you. Because since the boy I loved, turned me down in a really heartless way. I haven't been able to trust anyone.
You shouldn't care what the majority thinks! Period. Whether people hate you...or whether they adore you.
I've learned the hard way that admiration, can quickly turn to hate. Hatred and admiration are not opposites. They can switch quickly.
Everyone is vying for admiration. But true acceptance is what they really want and need. Admiration is just fake. It's not real. And in a way...it's good that you have seen those people's bad sides. Because it forces you to decide whether you are going to listen to these people who will adore you one day and hate you the next.
Btw, the guy I was in love with was not super sexy. It was his attitude about himself and his charm and humor I found attractive.
everyone assumes I've always been sad , No when rejection got too much , I found out that I was less than a man . I thought I was someone before but girls showed I'm trash
Confidence can lift a woman off her feet (metaphorically). It works on a lot of women, but yes, looks play are a role in many women's assessment of a man. It's just human nature.
Dude, we all have our insecurities. I ask myself sometimes if I am attractive, according to my peers, apparently I'm attractive. I'll take their word for it but that doesn't mean I'll stop asking myself.
The key is to STOP comparing yourself to others. It's easier said than done but you were born to make a name for yourself. Ambitions-wise, you are born to serve you and only you until you are ready to take responsibility for others (i.e. starting a family or taking care of your aging parents but of course, show compassion while you're going wherever you are going).
The problem with today's society is that many people expect too much from others because of the standards placed by the media.
You should travel the world and see how good you have it. Some people aren't so fortunate.
Bottom line is we can't impress every body, and sometimes we unknowingly impress those who aren't even in our radar.
u said don't compare yourself to anyone , then to compare myself with less fortunate people
I'm saying get a scope of the world. All I am saying is that there are those who complain a lot more out there.
With the "Don't compare yourself to others" -- I meant don't compare yourself to Hollywood.
well women want a hollywood looking guy theses days m even fat girls
That's unfortunate.
The Hollywood crowd spend money to their faces. Surgeries, facial, derma, laser, etc.
And oh, Photoshop and other photo editing software out there play a huge role too.
Oh search "Dove ad: The Evolution of Beauty (Time-lapse)" on YouTube if you haven't seen it already. One of my college professors showed me that vid.
Here's your problem - "I have very low standards", and here's why: Ugly girls are much, MUCH harder to talk to/hit on than beautiful girls.
You also have another problem that you probably don't realize, and that is confirmation bias. You have a deep down belief that good looking guys can get girls just on their looks alone, and so you view the world with this tinted perspective. i.e. you may see a beautiful girl with an ugly guy from time to time, but your brain doesn't notice them because it doesn't fit into your belief system.
Here's what I recommend you do. You need to spend a good amount of time practicing talking to beautiful girls without any intent or subtext. Just good, friendly conversations about random things so that you can learn what topics of conversation they're into, what stories you can tell that get good responses, and generally build up your confidence at being natural around beautiful women. Once you've gotten this down, the rest will work itself out naturally.
If you want an extra entry level starting point for this, just go to Hooters - the girls are paid to flirt with you, so it's like a subsidized training program for talking with women.
Good luck.
finally helpful advice thank you , but we don't have a hooters here . I used to talk to attractive women , I got the same result that I am getting now
It would be great if you updated this question with some of your interests and strengths so we have a better idea of who you are outside this slump/bad mood, and so we know what things you can build on...
In any case, I really don't think you're in as bad a situation as you might think. Girls honestly aren't such narrow minded boneheads - we have different preferences, so as long as you are nice, friendly and warm, there is someone out there who will find you attractive. People have already said below that it might be a good idea to keep doing things that make you feel good and don't revolve around "getting a girl" - it's good for your self esteem and in building relationships.
Suicide is such a waste when you're so young and don't know what's around the corner. Maybe you could also speak to a counselor at your uni, I'm sure you're not the only one who has felt this way before.
counseler costs money . For students its a 10% discount which is still too expensive from me
Ugh, that's ridiculous, where do they think students are going to find that kind of money?
Anyway, I found this National Youth Crisis Hotline: 1-800- 448-4663 or see this link:
allaboutcounseling. com /
crisis_ hotlines. htm
GaG doesn't let me post links so I've added spaces.
those are usa services . I'm not in us
I'm sure there's a hotline wherever you are. PM your location if you want help finding one, I've got mad google skillzzzzzz.
lebanon
Here's a best answer: A girl would rather get with an "ugly" guy that works out at the gym, is social, and has confidence (pretty much someone who tries) than some "ugly" guy who doesn't work out isn't social or tries to be and has zero confidence.
So keep up the good work because I'm sure there's plenty of guys you look better than and have even worst luck and confidence than you do, plus you go to the gym, girls love a fit man.
*PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't think about suicide because that's not healthy and your life is VERY important just as important as mine or any one else's
in you're example . you didn't mention that they have options of going after men who are better than me (average looking and up )
+ whenever I try to argue , people tell who do you think you are ? ( I don't matter to anyone)
have you tried just asking like just going to the grocery store and asking where something is? I used to be so afraid of talkign to guys that I couldn't even do that. there are classes out there that can teach you how to approach women, and show you how to be more confident. believe me, I know it sucks to be looked at like your weird by someone that your trying to talk to and there not having it, I've been there before.i personally think its easier for guys to get girls if there funny and charming, no matter what they look like, its much harder for ugly girls. what kinds of things are you into, hobby wise?some place that has a lot of women, and is interactive will take the pressure off.
can I say in private
you're at a place where you're going to get shot down no matter what you do.
If you think you are confident and you still think you're ugly you're not really confident.
Being confident... You have to be able to sell it. And you can't sell it if you don't believe it.
Imo you're trying to hard. You're not going to get a girl like this. So screw it. do something else. go be a badass at something.
And worry about chicks later.
The fact that your question smacks, practically drips with self-pity and insecurity, makes me think that you haven't really appeared confident, even if you thought you did. Girls can smell insecurity on a dude. You can't fake confidence. And you clearly don't have it.
So you have to learn it first, but confidence isn't something you can take a class on or force, it has to happen naturally, you have to really believe it, and you have to own it. Love it, stroke it, pet it.
Just like tommy boy
i used to believe I was worth something . but women and constant rejection showed me I was worth nothing
confidence isn't believing you're worth something.
It's about not caring what you're worth. That is to say.
"the highest of good form is to not know that you have good form"
and is you're woth tied up in women? then you've got your priorities in a knot. and it wasn't a question of IF you lose your "confidence" it was a question of "when"
your way of thinking is toxic.
have you ever been called ugly by multiple women ?
yes.
I said "f*** you"
really ?
actually I said "f*** you you're a bitch" but yeah, close enough
hello you ;)
It is my understanding that if a girl is not attracted at all then confidence won't change that BUT if a girl has some attraction to a guy then confidence does matter. Confidence just makes relationships easier, comfortable, fun, stable and a bunch of other things.
Plenty of 'ugly' people do get in relationships, you can't deny that.
Now you shouldn't give up because if you give up hope then you become suicidal and I don't want you dying. It is entirely possible for someone, somewhere to want to date you and if you give up hope you will never discover those possibilities.
And you're not wasting your time at the gym (unless you're one of those people who go to the gym and actually do NOTHING except play on their phone...). If you do get a girlfriend (which is entirely possible) I'm sure she will appreciate it and exercise is good for your health! ...on that note eat more vegetables :D yay
Take care :)
Confidence definitely matters. It matters because it takes confidence to actually go through with something. And it also matters because when you muster up all that courage only to get rejected, your confidence basically shatters.
In this regard, confidence sucks. It's just way too fragile.
I found that arrogance helped me more than confidence ever did. Arrogance in the sense of "if you don't like it then leave."
And if your face is really affecting your life that much and you can't live with it, then sit down and talk to a cosmetic surgeon. Save up, get work done in stages, and move on with your new life.
Ok, when it comes down to it, not everyone is physically beautiful. Not even half of us are. Walk down the street and notice how many people are plain jane, less than glamourous . . . it's quite a few, the majority I'd say. Now start looking at their hands, a lot of them will be, oh, wait, is that a WEDDING RING? A wedding ring on that ugly womans hand? A wedding ring on that fat guys hand? Why yes, yes it is. They aren't going to have a supermodel waiting for them at home, but they do have a spouse, one who cares for them. Less than attractive people find relationships everyday, typically with other less than attractive people. Are you talking to supermodels or normal people? I have a friend who is overweight and has a 'less than attractive' face, but he's also one of the most down to earth decent guys I know. Except for one thing, he wants a HOT girl. You have to have something equal to offer. I wouldn't be giving up if I were you, I'd be thinking outside of the box.
read the question please . I don't go after average-attractive girls
I did read the question. My point still stands, less than attractive people get together EVERYDAY.
1. Ugly & beauty lies solely on discretion of the beholder - undeniable fact
2. There is no denying that we are naturally hardwired to perception of physical beauty & ugliness hence, being ugly is a fact
3. Accepted that even confidence, knowledge, mannerisms etc can't get over physical / facial 'ugliness' because of point 1
4. However, if the other person loves the 'ugly' person's traits, nature etc he/she will always find the 'ugly' one attractive and crazily so - again an undeniable fact
5. Having said that however, someone who is not confident, believes in self, isn't optimistic etc will unwittingly push away someone who actually likes them because they are writhing within self and mulling over how ugly they are :)
6. End of the day it's on the other person (beholder) and you how things work out :)
7. Can't change certain facts & fate though :)
8. Keep an open mind always which will go a long way :) :)
Good luck :)
first of all bro never let this idea of "i'm worthless and ugly" pull to the bottom maintain to live according to yourself take the path you know and set a goal for yourself to achieve and focus on this job I heard you saying "what could this possibly help me ?" By focusing on the another thing out of love gives you a purpose and this purpose helps you to drag your attention and again helps you to avoid getting obssessed (not sure I spelled it correctly) with idea of "I must find someone "and hopefully makes things easier for you
A lot of my friends care about the guy being attractive so I can get where you are coming from but that doesn´t mean that it is that way for everybody. I have a guy friend who is relly ugly but his attitude and the way he treats girls makes him really attractive. He is really chivalrious, he is/acts secure about himself and he tries to be really sociable. He has a pretty girlfriend and everything. Remember everybody will alaways think something bad about you, no matter if you are really hot or not. People will always talk, I think that is what you should be trying to work on. I´m not super pretty or anything but some people think the worst of me even if I am always nice so just try to work on that.
if some girls hated me then I won't care . but when all of them do , that hurts
And the girls that hate you are all that? They obiously aren't. You have to pay attention to the type of people that give you crap. If you are smarter , nicer or better that them in some really good sense like that then don't pay attention to them.
if I can find any girl who would give me crap then I would pay attention
Confidence could be useful in most cases, but you don't nessisarily need it to get a girl. Believe it or not there ARE women out there that don't care about looks or how a man dresses. They just look at his heart and go from there:). That's what I usually do. You'll find the right woman but it just takes time and patience. Trust me, being patient will definitely be worth it when your happy as can be with her(: Do you like to read? Maybe you could go to a library or a church. Good nice girls could be there. Don't go out to clubs and what not more shallow girls tend to bein those spots but then again every girl is different and they have their own hobbies so idk. I wish you the best of luck sir... Your life is very meanigful and you HAVE a purpose in this world. You don't need a women to complete your life. Remember that:)
the same guy who came up with confidence (maslow) said that its necesary to fulfill sexual needs and be loved ( I've been waiting for 19 years , is that not patient enough ? )
Just keep on doin what your doin
Women are primarily attracted by looks so I understand your pain. People preach this 'men care about looks, women care about personality' sh*t but I've never seen any real evidence that is true. However their standards are often reflective of the men they can realistically attain. This means if you are ugly your only hope is to go for very undesirable women. Even then your success rate will be low and require you to meet many women. The same as the average guy can't have any average woman, he has to try it with lots of them before one will accept him.
Another route you could try is plastic surgery and/or steroids to improve your attractiveness.
Alternatively you could attempt to forget about women and be happy without them, this is very difficult but take a look into things like meditation to help you deal with these thoughts of needing female company. You won't die without it, you can be happy without it, its all in your head.
I'm not attractive but girls are always starting conversations with me because I'm confident and I show it. I don't care what people think of me, I just do what I do. I can be talking about videogames or comic books on purpose to turn them off and yet they ask me questions about them and show interest. They will call me a nerd ot s Comic-Con regular and yet they keep coming back.
I don't really put any efforts and pretend to be cool, I am just that way and that attracts them. There's this girl right now who, supposedly, didn't find me attractive but now she is on my case all the time, teasing me, talking to me and recently she started staring at me, making eye contact and, surprisingly, wearing this bright red lipstick and smiling the whole time she is talking to me, so yes, confidence helps.
well I wasn't depressed and women still hated me before
Yes it does. I dated a guy who really wasn't good looking but he was so charming, it was never a challenge for him to meet girls, hot girls. And he was good in bed (that helps). But you really do have to change your mindset and believe you're the sh*t. Would you wana date yourself? This question extends beyond your looks. Would you enjoy hanging out with yourself? Become the type of person you'd like to date?
if I was good looking then yes
Well it extends further than that, because even if you were good looking nothing about you says "I'm a happy guy, hang out with me". What would you talk about? What would you do together? That's why I ask if you enjoy hanging out with yourself and if you think you're an awesome person. What would change if you were good looking? Maybe you'd get a girlfriend but would it last with all your negativity? I think you're putting looks on a pedestal.
if I get a girlfriend then all my problems are solved
im negative because I don't have one and never did .it would change if someone says yes
No. You need to re-evaluate your life and expectations. You will get a girlfriend at some point and you'll realize that having her won't immediately make you feel better. Whatever problems you have with yourself will still be there. You need to fix them first. I'd recommend seeing someone about this.
i have no trouble with my life except that so that's all I need
obviously the advice people are giving you is not working out for you. I think you should do some kind of charity or do some volunteering, that way women are forced to talk to you, and with a good impression. Not to say you will get a girlfriend, but you can socialize with women and hopefully make a friend who is a girl and maybe she can help you(there is only so much the internet can help you with) with your women troubles. Plus I think volunteering would give you a better feeling about yourself.
i do volunteer at the YMCA and sometimes with the school whenever there are opportunities , the rest is too far away from my house . No luck there either . They ignored my hellos and they never spoke to me
I am sorry if I tell you something that you don't wanna hear but as a girl,no confidence won't give any differences if I don't find him physically attractive.I am not sure how do you look like but I don't think you are ugly as how you think.My suggestion is work on your appearance,find out your flaw and appear more attractive than usual.
ugly facial structure is unfixable
i tried , it doesn't really hide anything . I'm don't get too much hair
Well,how about this:
I understand how you feeling,cause I have the same feeling when I was in high school. In that period,I was extremely desperate,I was alone,no one talked to me(actually it was me who had no courage to talk to others,because I was in low self-esteem).
But now,I'm feeling better,of couse,I'm still the way I was,I mean,the changed part is my mind,I started to accept myself.I trust myself that I deserve a good return. It's hard for me to describe.In a word,have faith in yourself!
well I was the same during high school and I'm still this way in uni
Start appreciating things about you and liking yourself. How are you going to find a girl to appreciate you if you can't enjoy anything about yourself? If you just easily tear yourself down like this it will be so much harder to find someone. Once you start appreciating yourself, girls will notice that and it will be so much more attractive. Also, if you meet a girl and you just point out your flaws it's super unattractive.
girls kept rejecting me that's why I started hating myself
i'd say don't give up. if confidence a lone doesn't work, try humor. I don't know a girl on earth that doesn't like to laugh. You already seem pretty smart, and girls always say they want someone "smart, funny and good looking" maybe with a good joke as an icebreaker you can hold her attention with the first two qualities and she may overlook to last.
they call us shallow :/ I'm not funny around girls becuase I never get the chance to be
Ok, so yeah pretty much if a girl is not physically attracted to you, your personality will not matter. However, that is a really shallow perspective. All girls are different, all of my friends have completely different taste in guys. To one girl you might be ugly, to another you could be her prince charming. Beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder. But I know you're not looking for cheesy lines like that you are looking for advice. So here I'll try.
I have noticed that nowadays it is harder to meet people because no one goes on dates anymore and everyone seems to be meeting on the internet. So you might want to give that a try. I found this website called skout.com and you can find other singles in your area and chat with them.
Also sometimes, you need change maybe to move somewhere. I live in San francisco and we have just about every kind of person living here you can imagine, I would say if you moved here you would more then likely find someone. Good luck! :)
i failed at online dating
If there is no initial attraction then most of the time confidence does not matter, well for me at least. I wouldn't be mean or rude like the girls your describing. Usually I would still be friends or get to know the person I'm unattracted to but I wouldn't lead them on in any way. But to be honest I've started to like someone I once thought was unattracted before just because I liked their personality. Maybe you just need to boost your self esteem a little.
girls aren't letting me talk to them. They ignore me at hello until I have nothing to say .
Maybe there's something wrong with the girls your around. It's dumb to ignore someone like that.
Have you joined any clubs lately or made some guy friends. Your guy friends could help you get girls.
im in many clubs. I'm terrible at social interactions but I have a few guy friends and they keep me away whenever they have a girl or girls
Confidence is a trait that does attract people so if you're ugly but very confident with a very vibrant personality, then you should be fine. If you're not confident and you're not good looking, then you kind of fade into the background which is never good.
I doubt you're as ugly as you make yourself out to be. You're as good looking as you feel. Never give up on the gym or your life for that matter over such a trivial thing. Even the ugliest people in the world (and even the fattest man in the world) have gotten married or have partners so you will find one one day, you just need to be patient and not be so down on yourself.
if I feel good looking . I still am ugly to women
and how will that make women not disgusted by my face ?
I hope I don't come off as a total douche(because I don't mean to), but if you say that girls run away from you and won't talk to you because of your appearance, maybe its because you are chasing some of the better looking girls? Maybe you should try being with a girl who's less attractive?
Wow I sound like a jerk -_- I'm sorry
well you didn't read the question because I only go after the average looking and above because they deserve better than me . I go after girls I don't find attractive
oh I'm sorry it was a typo , I mean I approach girls I don't find attractive because the average to attractive can get better men than me
Well, here's an honest answer.
An answer like you're ugly and girls will never date you even if you have a cool personality, will get you upset, or it will make you happy to indulge in pity.
And any positive answer of encouragement will get shot down as cliche.
What's the solution?
positive answers ? theyre telling me to do things that I've already done and failed at . and telling me "be positive " doesn't work . Its not easy as they make it seem
it makes me feel better . 2 years I wasted at the gym for nothing. Hurting myself didn't make me feel better . Taking multiple prozac pills didn't help me
Honestly, trying to talk to a girl hoping that she might someday be your girlfriend is the worst mistake you can make. It just screams desperation - which is a turn off, no matter how good looking or confident you may be. Just let go- focus on being a sensitive, good mannered guy instead. If you frequent a particular place such as office or college, girls around you will take notice. If you accidentaly start talking to a girl, don't jump in by asking her out at the first chance. For people who are not very fortunate looking, things like romance happen slowly. But it does happen.
I'm with you my man. The greatest thing you can learn in life is that none of those things you mentioned really matter in the bigger scheme of things. Once you have nothing to lose, you can simply be what you want to be. Eat, drink, be merry and do good in what you can, and let the rest over to the wind, then blessings will not stop coming your way.
I think it is important.People often say that there is pressure just has power.But I think self-confidence also can give people power.If you have the pressure ,unfortunately
you also know you will not come true your dream,what will you do?On the contrary, if you believe you can succeed, if you can flay you move forward
Yes confidence counts no matter what you look like. No female wants a man that has no confidence in himself. I'm not gonna give you a pep talk all I'm gonna say is walk with your head held high because without confidence in yourself how can anyone else see you let alone what to get to know you
before I believed I was worth something , girls still hated me
It shouldn't matter what girls thing of you it matters what you think of yourself
will that get a girlfriend ?
Yes I believe it will you see there are females out there who will look beyond looks and see the heart and personality of the man. Trust me I know cause I'm one of those females. I use to be just like you I thought I was ugly and and that no man would ever want me but I came to realize that I had to see myself as beautiful and have confidence in myself before anyone else would. You have to do the same not for some girl but simply for yourself.
well I used to think I was worth something before , I was treated the same as I am now
Look that's the problem you are letting others decide how you should feel about yourself you are the only one who can make a difference those of us that have giving you their honest advice but at the end of the day you have to decide to have that confidence in yourself
well how do I get that when women keep telling me I'm worthless/ugly/pathetic/loser/going to die alone ?
Look there is really nothin else I can say if you are gonna let how others see you define who you are no woman wants a man like that if you are gonna let what some girl who sees nothing but your outer appearance define you I have to ask why did you even bother to ask that question if you just gonna keep downing yourself. True confidence starts with you not anyone else and that's something you have to learn on your own
how do I start ?
First stop talking in the negative about yourself that's the first thing you have to do
ok then what?
The rest you have to decide I know when I was dealing with the same thing it helped to remind myself of all my positive traits but also to just stop worrying about finding someone and enjoy my life it seemed that when I showed people that what they said ain't bother me they started to see me in a different light I met 2 guys both of who like me and all I did was change how I saw myself and stopped stressing
how long did it take ?
look that's something I can't help you with how long it takes depends on you
how long did it take you ?
it took awhile for me but I had help
yes I have no help :/ only more girls to tell me that I'm not worth anything
Those efforts should be working by now.
Perhaps, you are just having a bad luck at meeting women.
After all, some women will not like you not matter what, but some women will like you no matter what. All you're doing will soon reap big rewards. You simply have to approach a lots of women.
i do . no woman likes me
Alright bro, there are a million responses so I apologize if I repeated anything.
But I have questions for you-
What are you actually saying to girls? What makes you believe that the rejection is based off your looks, and not your approach? For all we know you can be walking like a nervous creepy guy and mumbling words to them with a low tone of voice. So what are you saying and how are you saying it?
You say you go to the gym, but are you jacked? I don't care what girls say, but physique does matter. It matters big time. Girls love jacked guys. You may be fit and you may go to the gym, but are you jacked? Physically imposing? There are so many little things that matter.
I ask these questions because I know so many dudes that blame their failure with women on their height and looks, rather than really examining what they are doing.
I don't know if it matters honestly.
There are some ugly guys with great confidence and I still wouldn't date them. So I guess that answers your question
I get suicide thoughts too but I actually call people for help when I think I'm hitting rock bottom.
i have no one to call
Concentrate on getting a good carreer, girls want someone who can take care of them (cash). Girls I guess you should look for someone who's not really very attractive, but who is into working out and who's confident.. it's the least you could ask for.
Even (more) attractive people have a hard time sometimes, don't give up on your love life
im not attractive at all and second why can't girls get theyre own jobs
We do get our own jobs. Just take your own responsibility.. when we're out earning serious money, we don't want you on the couch.
I'm not going to answer to the 'i'm not attractive' part, because I already knew that. Just work with what you do have.
i work with what I have and still doesn't do a thing
Then wait because you can't expect everything to happen when you want it to. The universe isn't at your feet and the world doesn't turn at your pace.
did I say that ? why does every average-good looking guy get to date , and no girl lets me be her friend
It's not true that every guy gets to date girls. You'll just have to find someone who likes your personality.. and it may take some time to find that person. Have some more patience.
its been 19 years . I'm sorry for being negative . Its just been too long
No won't help. Find a girl who is at your level of attractiveness. If your a 3 find a 3, or if your a 5 find a 5. But a girl who is a 3 will probably not talk to you because she is most likely very shy and introverted and unused to a guy hitting on her... so it will take time. Ur last option is becoming rich and getting a mail order bride or sugarbaby... idk.
you again ? read the question before answering
I did I even read your updates. How did I not answer your question? I very simply stated in three words... no won't help.
you said go after girls your league . I said I don't , and you answer the same thing every time to everyone (mail order bride)
This is the very first time I have ever said anything bout mail order bride -_-
And you should read your own question because no where in there does it say, I don't go after girls my league.
said I lowered my standards
Lower them much more then.
Lower them then gtfo idiot
I hate to say this but confidence does not matter if a guy is unattractive to a female.
On a side note just because the girls you hit on so far have not found you attractive does not mean that all girls will. My friend and I have completely different taste in men, the guys she finds attractive, I think are really unattractive and vice versa.
what about 107 women
Rejection sucks. I can't deny that. You are looking at it wrong though. You are now a 107 women closer to the one that will not reject you.
Get rejected by a 100 guys then say that
you have no idea how it feels
I have been rejected. Sure not by a hundred guys but still rejection sucks, no matter how you look at it. If you want to give up, that's your prerogative. I can't say I blame you but at the same time, if you really want to meet someone then you have to keep trying because sooner or later you will meet her.
why can every guy date women until he meets one , while I'm only made to be spit on by girls
what you should do is play it very cool and smooth as in if a women doesn't let you approach you act like nothing happened and have grin on your face as if you know something they dont. that way other girls will start to get intrigued. If you look at some of the rock stars they are sin ugly but they have confidence so they get all the girls lol. so yeah confidence matter a lot
rockstars have a lot of money , plus the era they were in . People cared about music , not looks/breasts
you will win some and lose some. It doesn't really matter tbh. Keep searchin' you will eventually find it. Do you have a pic of your self with some clothes? Maybe I should take off this arrogant pic and put a real picture of me. Just learn how to approach her nicely and eye contact is huge and smile. Implying you have nice teeth. If those don't help they try to go on chat rooms and try to get comfortable with females. Look on YouTube how to approach females. Please don't be suicidal I used to be like you. Believe you are the best. Don't let no girl ruin your confidence like it did to me. I changed up my dressing.. yet, I have some skin discoloration and I can still be social with females. Are you funny? that plays a huge PART. if you have acne clear it up!
if anything more please ask me!
did you read the question ?
haha dude you're ugly go fnd and ugy girl and go ake ugly babies you are a desperate piece of trash girls won't let you talk to them show them what up make em listen.. or you can just roufie some girl and tie herin your basement or jut hve sexwith her and leave use a fake name you'll be fine
you are so wrong you are acting like a big fat jerk
Kinda. There's more to it than just looks. It's more (all) about what you can do for them.
Remember Briffault's Law - "The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place." - Robert Briffault, The Mothers, I, 191
what does the second sentence mean ?
what if she doesn't give me a chance to show what I can offer?
how do I get her to notice me ? I'm ugly
im a student(not rich) , I'm 6ft , not talented , not charismatic , you can say average smart , don't know what self assured means
i can't become talented at something , you're either born with it or not , plus I'm in uni , so I don't know how I can become a millionaire
why can't they work ? and why does every guy who does nothing here but party get every girl ?
love how they complain about "equality " and when someone tells them ask a guy out they say its a "mans jon"
job
I think you should start seeing a counselor Need help? In the U.S., call 1-800-273-8255
National Suicide Prevention Lifeline
not in the US
then google suicide help lines wherever you are.
they don't have . I checked
Where are you from? You've said Canada and you've also said Lebanon. And I looked it up.. Both of those countries have suicide help lines ;) I think you is a troll my man.
i don't need someone telling me be happy when all women hate you . Id rather keep crying in bed
Whether you look bad or not. This isn't life or death. Thinking you can't is just stupid. I know you probably have tried 2 ask tons of girls. Whether you think it or not. Try befriending a girl and then after a while ask
read my question please
I think you should just get out more. Meet more people, stop focusing on meeting women just for dating, because that may be what makes them not talk to you. Focus on talking to women, or try an online dating site. There has to be a reason other than looks. What do you mean by ugly? Hideous scars, balding, deformities, what? I feel like you just have some low self esteem, and even a little confidence in yourself would help. Ugly doesn't matter, I've seen very fat men get girls because some girls like that. I know a man with a mole that covers one half of his face, and he's married to a gorgeous girl. Those things would turn other people completely off, but those guys had good personalities and were simply just themselves until they found the right girl. Beauty is only skin deep, but an ugly personality goes straight to the bone.
i failed at online dating even my pic got rated a 3.4 on this site . I can't really get out more , I don't have the time for tthat anymore
Hmmm...First you say you're from lebanon to one answerer and then you say you're from Canada. Troll much?
In what setting have you been trying to speak to these girls, exactly? Nobody I know would refuse to talk to someone just because they think they're ugly!
You just said yourself though that you have low standards, so you're probably just talking to the wrong girls. Maybe something in your approach warns them off? Have you tried dating sites?
university . failed at online dating . got a 3.4 rating on this site
on campus , can't go to bars yet , and at bars its going to be even worse
thats my only option
Of course you're going to get odd looks doing that! What do you say to them? You're probably coming off as a bit creepy. Haven't you tried to join a society/ club or take up a new sport where you can mix naturally? It also gives you a topic of conversation to start out with. I've only ever dated one guy who approached me out of the blue at the library. He only got away with it because he had an irish accent, a bunch of tattoos & a crippled hand. We spoke for an hour solid and went from there.
read the question please . I've joined clubs and women refuse to talk to me there +nobody does any sport to make friends , they go there they play and leave . I've been called ugly before too multiple times
I did read the question. Joining a gym is not the same as joining a club. I'm talking student societies like a gospel choir, gaming society or a f*cking drama club - whatever floats your boat. I'll have you know I have joined sports clubs to make friends and have succeeded in doing so. I have also dated guys I've met through sport clubs. Maybe you're picking the wrong ones. Tbh though, (I know it's hard to read tone of voice from text, but) your personality's coming off a little ugly.
i am in a public speaking club . Girls there refuse to talk to me , even the first day I came in and asked is this the speaking club , they looked at me disgusted said yes and never spoke to me again. And second girls can easily get dates , third is my personality ugly because I'm disagreeing with you ?
there was a girl who liked me online but she never saw my picture . I put no pic . When I thought that she liked me , I sent my picture , she blocked me
I'm not saying that because you're disagreeing me. I'm trying really hard to see where you're coming from, and I genuinely want to be able to give you some advice, but that's really difficult when you're being super negative. I think most people on here are having a hard time trying to imagine your predicament. If you already have a photo posted of you on the "Rate-Me" thing, why don't you post one here? You're anon anyway.
this man is still better than me
send it 2 you in private?
well gag account ?
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keep on going to the gym and keep begin you if a girl likes you they will like you for you every guy ugly or not have a girl waiting for them.Girls like guys that are always them and Confidence .
thats what they all say then you find them with good looking guys
while me that's what I like about guys
that isn't true a girl will like you for you trust me
but aloot of people get to date every week
join groups and teams you could see a girl there
In the first place there are no ugly people not physically anyway although some people have an ugly personality...So I don't care what you look like but if you aren't the one for me then that's all there is to it...No amount of so called good looks charms whatever will keep me if its not working...It has to be because we are compatible because of the attraction some spark that keeps the flame burning... Because we belong and fit together and share much happiness with the simple things in life...Hope this helps a little...
bro, confidence completely matters. yes, looks are relevant but more relevant for guys chasing girls than the other way around. girls care a lot about personality as well. can you send me a picture personally so I can see if you're as you describe?
Don't worry, dude. You'll find a woman who'll love you for who you are one day. Just look at my parents. :D.
why your parents ?
Take us through a rundown of your approach since I assume this is the same guy as last time and I know you won't post any pictures of yourself.
So give us a rundown of what you do, how you do it, and what made you decide to approach said person.
saw her , thought she might give me a chance , went up and said hello my name is ***** and I find you cute / I like your style ,etc... and I wanted to meet you
No, don't do that. That's awkward and socially ill advised. Stop doing that. If you see somebody you think you might want to try and talk to, try to focus on a more situational basis. Like if the person is a classmate, often times what I do is I'll try to either sit next to the person before the class starts or try to leave around the same time as them. Then I simply look over and say "what do you think of the professor?" In a friendly tone with a slight smile, casual.
no, our classes are really empty . fits 300 and about 90 people are in . So I will creep her out , and I can't smile
I honestly can't say I have ever had anything less than positive response doing that and I'm average at best. The approach you're using, especially if you don't have a class with them or something, is definitely the wrong way to approach a stranger. Like, not good at all. If I see a complete stranger I usually fit it to the situation again. Get an opinion on something. In a starbucks waiting in line? "Hey, I don't frequent here much, got any recommendations on what I should get?"
ive done things similar . didn't work at all
Then you were being awkward about it. Get a friend to help you out, be your wingman. Give you real time feedback on what you're screwing up because if you're doing something simple as asking a casual question, and people are responding negatively, your looks have nothing to do with it.
my friends don't invite me when they have girls . I would be surprised if they help me out , and no I am ugly . If I can talk to guys , I can talk to girls
I'm sorry, but ugly has nothing to do with a strictly platonic social interaction. If I asked somebodies opinion in a book store like "I'm trying to find a good book to get into, got any suggestions?" and they respond by quickly getting away, it ISN'T your looks. It's your demeanor. You said you "can't" smile. First off, that's ridiculous. Second, it shows just how socially awkward you are. So no, even if you ARE ugly that isn't your problem. Ugly people can get women, but social awkwardness? No
im not socially awkward + I can't smile because of my facial structure
Based on your approach, yes, I'm betting you actually are. You're focusing on being ugly to compensate for it as your explanation to why people are acting in such a harsh way.
ive been called ugly before . by multiple women and I've been labaled "ew" , and "i can do better than him "
Oh... My guys werent handsome at all but they had that something! Don't worry! Just be brave and go for some girl you like! :D
i do
no . every guy gets to date multiple girls . I can't even get one to let me be her friend
either hello , casual talk , or a compliment
It matters, work with what you've got. Confident ugly man vs un-confident ugly man, confident wins.
Confidence is always attractive. The one thing I look in a guy is if he is confident. I sometimes even fall for supposedly 'ugly' people because they have really great personalities, so looks aren't everything, but with confidence, you could be attractive inside and out.
sure
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