And women with that argument about how men make them feel uncomfortable are usually the same women who check out guys at the gym in much the same way, or come on here asking how to approach guys they like at the gym... Who are there trying to work out.
Just another double standard where women need their special places that exclude men, yet don't think men should have the same places away from women or that men don't get oogled over by women... Or if we do, we all like it.
If that's the case then all women must like it too. See how that works?
Gyms are a place where everybody can pay to join up to use it with the rest of the paying public, male or female.
If you're uncomfortable working out in a place that others are allowed to use at the same time, regardless of their gender, then maybe you should work out at home where nobody can see you.
Excluding genders because that opposing gender finds the opposite attractive (go figure) and may look at you, isn't the way to go.
Having male only or female only gyms isn't going to fix anything because they you have to account for gay and lesbian people checking you out. Now if that also makes you uncomfortable, then what? Have even more exclusive gyms for the straight males, the straight females and now have gyms for the gay males and lesbian females?
Oh no... There's a transgender person... Now what?
People need to just suck it up. There's worse things out there to worry about than someone glancing at your ass in spandex.
Maybe wear some baggy jogging pants or something, I don't know.
Wjen you wear skin tight outfits that purposely show off your body, I'm not about to even claim people are asking for people to stare, but seriously... Its biology. Guys are going to notice a tight ass in spandex and girls are going to notice guys in much the same way. It's kind of hard not to notice.
Deny all anybody wants, you're only fooling yourself.
If someone is constantly staring at you and giving you creepy looks, you have every right to contact the employees and report the situation. If they do nothing about it, then end your membership and go somewhere else.
Eventually they will realise that they're losing business as more and more people leave while they defend the one creep screwing everything up for everyone else.
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Well... look, I’m sensitive to the idea that some women feel very uncomfortable working out around men. I know it’s all I can do to not stare at a hot chick doing squats or something, lmao. I mean, I manage, but it’s a struggle, just on a biological level, and I consider myself a pretty decent guy, so I’m sure the less decent guys can be out of control at times.
That said, don’t they have women-only gyms? It seems like if you wish to segregate yourself, the option already exists. Also, when are these hours going to be? I know I have a very tight window of time when I can work out most days... what if that window is now during “women’s hours?” Do I have to sign up to a whole different gym now? Or what if there’s a woman who can’t come during that time but wants to? That seems problematic.
I don’t know, the thing is, life isn’t perfect and you can’t just tailor it to your liking. You have grow to be resilient and not let certain things bother you. You can’t really control the behavior of others, you can only control your own reactions to it. So if you want to have women’s gyms for women who prefer to workout like that, great, but when you start closing the doors on dudes who might just want to go in and get in a workout, and aren’t there to ogle women, that seems kind of unfair. The other point to consider is that men may feel uncomfortable working out around women. I remember being a young guy in the gym, just getting started, and I’d hate working out in front of attractive women, because I wasn’t in my best shape and I didn’t lift very heavy weight, so that made me self-conscious. I see young guys in the gym now, barely benching the bar and a couple 5 lb weights, and they’re pushing it up all uneven, and it just looks goofy. I’m not clowning, I was that guy once too, but I’m saying, he counts as a man too, and maybe he’d like HIS own area or time slot to work out, free of any supposed judgement he might feel from the opposite sex.
Just too many variables involved for me to really support segregation on a time window basis, really.
I agree, i met my first ass hole at the gym the other day. Myself and another guy approached the resistance band section. There are four. I basically said to the guy he coukd use one and id move to the next, a guy said, "I'm using this one". So i moved along, anyways when i approached the second one he basically shouted at me, "im using these!" and pointed to two, so i said "alright, thank you jeez!" everyone else makes do with one. He pissed me off as after that he only used one. Then started grunting and puffing pulling this stupid muscle man face in the mirror. Most people i see try to get on he was a dick. There was also a guy the week prior he would use the ab rolling thing, he stunk and he kept making these grunting sex noises. As i was at the end of my workout, i moved and stretched away from him. I couldn't help but feel these simply happened because they were surrounded by two women. Either way i didn't appreciate it and it would be nice to have a session for women only. Even if it's a morning an afternoon/evening but statistically women use gyms less
I fully endorse that option and would be the first one to use it extensively.
The reason why I hesitate to go to the gym is to be harassed by guys all the time. There has not been one single day where some did not have the need to address you and start chatting even though they see you are busy, don't smile in return, have your earbuds on and a number of other signs that clearly say "buzz off" or "not interested"
Do (some) guys really think that the girls at the gym solely go there to be hit on or need to be picked up? Is it that their levels of testosterone is so high because they see girls in their outfits?
I don't know what it is but what I know is that it can be a real plague to be left alone.
It is definitely something that girls need for their own safety.
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If guys are breaking a law about assault (threat) or battery (attack), they should be charged.
Concept of all this separate garbage is that - garbage.
We learned to work and play together in kindergarten. Today's "enlightened entitled-ists" show they have a social focus of four year olds.
Grow up!Are we actually to the point where it has become necessary to dictate "gender only" or "no [insert gender here]" hours? Because if that's the case, we should take this reasoning to its logical conclusion and A) implement female-only gyms and B) cut the bullsh*t and just straight-up say "no men allowed". It's illegal on the grounds of "gender discrimination", sure, but apparently deciding whether or not to not allow men to be certain places at certain times ISN'T? I mean, it only makes sense to do these things, instead of demanding people not be in certain areas of certain buildings, due to creating an "uncomfortable environment". Hell, while we're at it, should we bring back race segregation and only have white people be here and black people be there?
My point is, where do we draw the line? It seems the boundary between what is "obvious" and "not obvious" has become so fuzzy that we've decided to use "hostility" as the "acceptability benchmark" in deciding the optimal course of action. If we keep this up, we'll use this "uncomfortable environment" as the threshold of acceptability everywhere... and I suppose women will be deigned the arbiters of what goes and what doesn't, right? After all, they are also the arbiters of dating, workplace responsible-ness, commerce, law--just about everything, really. They speak/complain, society responds. I'm not even trying to be a misogynist (because that is going to be some or most people's response to this line of thinking), these are just readily-observable observations--at least, as far as the Post-#MeToo world is concerned.Dressing rooms are different and both genders have their own. So if most women are fine without why do I have to pay the same to use less when it ownly helps a small minority of people. Seems like a waste. Why dont just get women who want to use that room to pay more, or better yet work out at home.
Everyone does have a fear and problem to deal with and they should deal with and we shouldn't aid in these feelings by segregating them allowing them to keep these feeling. To get over a fear you actually have to face it.
I haven't given you any facts? Neither have you😂. Here's a fact: sexism is the prejudice or discrimination based on sex. Having a women ownly section meets that criteria. Do you support sexist discrimination?
Women can use power rooms too, and many do. Get over the fact that I'm paying the same for less service, which is sexist. Humm, perhaps we should tell feminists to just get over it😂. If women want to use a room just for them they should have to pay more for it. Your not a 3d thinker because you have an inability to recognize sexism against men.
People need to solve their own problems we can't keep babying them and waste money on themFemale only gym hours is kinda hard without men feeling butthurt
Female only gym is honestly the best thing ever though. I go to one, it's great to be able to work out without stares when you are doing awkward positions that are often a bit sexual if you see it that way. My female gym closed due to repairs and I had to go to a coed gym, the guys make really nasty remarks, and their huge body masses scare me tbh.
But one thing I did like about the co-ed gym, the guys workout pretty seriously and give me the competitive atmosphere that I like. The all girls gym can be a bit annoying because most girls don't do full body workouts but focus on workouts to make their body look "nicer" but not necessarily stronger.
Another thing that gets me annoyed is that's girls are on their phone more at all girl gyms, and sometimes hog the machines because of it.
But, I really don't like the grunting and the machine bashing at regular gyms... so I'll put up with my female friendsMy gym does have an only women section.
I use it sometimes. I dont think the hour thing is fair. Not fair to ask one gender to plan their lives around others to feel comfortable. Plenty of gyms have women-only sections.
As an avid gym goer.
I can attest to A LOT. Sometimes guys literally take the weight sections and it like dude...
I hit the gym at 5 am. so I dont deal with most of that anymore. But as far as judging and stuff I think guys judge less than women do in my opinion. I heard some bitches say some nasty stuff about fat women/women who workout in make u etc... Just uncalled extra BS.
But that hour thing is asking for way too much. Guys have lives and other things to do too. I do not think running from each other is somehow going to make anything better. I mean there are perverts everywhere and anywhere.That is dumb. I don't recall guys starring at me every time i do. something. Even if they stare, they could do that anywhere else. Should we also forbid men to get outside at certain hours? Also, if you wear leggins and a sports bra and expect men not to take a look then it is more on you. Why would you dress like that and expect people not to take a look at you. I am. not advocating for rape, but looking is something else. If a hot shirtless guy is in front of you it is hard not to take a look.
And why does a stare bother you so much? As long as it doesn't become creepy you should rather take it as a compliment. Someone wouldn't stare unless they think you are preety or lyou look odd.They've got this at loads of places where I live but they've got mens and womens slots. Most of the people that go to them are religious, my area has loads of Jewish and Muslim who go there. Some non religious women go because they don't want creepy guys attention, some feel embarrassed to do stuff in front of guys (look how some are even embarrassed to simply eat in front of a guy) but I don't know any non religious men that I can think of that go.
It's usually out of peak hours, so nobody really cares, there's the whole rest of the day.Omfg what prissy ass bitches.
Men have been staring at us since the fucking big bang.
Whats next, women only resturant time or working time?
Oooh my boss looked at my ass because Im pretty, Im sooo upset.
Bitchy ass bitches.
It creates a world that restricts men from being men. Men are visual, they aren't going to fucking maul us because our butts look good in a squat.
And these bitches complain about equality lolI think it would be better to just have female only gyms since the hours don’t interfere with men’s schedule. I definitely understand why some women are uncomfortable and would appreciate female only hours though. I’ve been going to the gym since I was in elementary school and even then I was constantly stared at even when my dad was around.
It's an idea from woman who have the occasional bad experience with a weirdo at gym and then decry all gyms as predatory environments where they don't feel safe. Honestly, from all these comments one thing is very clear. Far too many people are insecure and think everyone is watching them when they're most likely not. Just focus on your workout and don't let it bother you.
The funny thing is aside from working out many women actually go to gyms because they know they'll have a chance of meeting a strong, fit and healthy guy who is hard working and has goals.We got it here and personally it feels better to do then
I can say been in a few gyms where guys try to hit on me or stare on body parts while I work out that really bothers
I do how ever prefer to practice out doors then in a closed gym so did not go much
And as read the comments
Not against a male only gym by all means if males are bothered
And I go to train, not for what ever other reason you think I go, and training hard not only little to get attention that honestly sounds made up with gym costsWell yea its there in a lot of good gyms but i don't agree to it tbh
First it could be problem to some guys to adjust their routine when they should be free to choose their working out time
2nd guys do stare its real and no denying as it sometimes gets very annoying as well but for me personally i ignore them or sometimes i just get cheeky and would give them smile and do some teasing and mostly they would feel embarrassed and would look away apart from some who i just ignore
Also i feel like if they are looking at me and not other girls it means they are seeing me as more sexier and prettier lolFine if men receive a discounted rate for the loss of hours in which women get to have exclusive time and I no longer get to use the gym for.
Correct... guys stare at you while squating too. I notice it too. Me, I just turn to see whether the rack is free on occasion. Zero interest in staring or even talking with anyone while there. In fact, the less eye contact the greater chance no one will try and initiate a conversation with you where thet talk your head off and completely interrupt your workout.I think that’s a good idea. One of my friends is really into fitness and she will spend hours at the gym. Usually she doesn’t let the guys who hit on her bother her, but she has complained quite a lot about how she just can’t seem to get rid of them. She said certain guys will stare at her for long periods of time and make her feel weird. She’s very into lifting heavy weights and gaining muscle and she does have a boyfriend although they are long distance so she goes to the gym alone. Guys often challenge her or think it’s smart to make comments about her form even though she’s been doing it for a long time and had worked on perfecting her form. Anyways, even tho I don’t go to the gym, the guys are one of the reasons why. I’m scared to go to the gym because I’m already self conscious and I would be afraid of guys either judging me or staring at me.
I would say know. What f the female only hours happen to be the best hours for me to work out? So I have wait for the female only hours to be over ( or go be fore they begin). I am busy and there are times that I work 6 days a week. If I am paying for a membership I should be able to go when I please.
Some women say they are uncomfortable if there are men working out in the vicinity. Perhaps. At the same time I could say that I don't want to go to the gym and see some female treat the gym as if it were a meat market and she is looking to get some. I have lost count of the number of times that I have gone to the gym and I have seen these females dressed in booty shorts with their asses hanging out or wearing ultra-tight- spandex pants that out line every curve , nook , and cranny. Not to mention tank-tops that show off their cleavage. These women are not stupid so they know what they are doing. It seems like for a lot of young women the gym has become the new night club.As former gym staff and member of several , I would approve more of female only gyms , a lot of women seem to think that ALL male gym members are sex crazed perverts , to be fair there are too many that are , but the hostile female glares and snarls when a male merely glances in the direction of a female gym user are uncalled for , I am simply waiting to use a specific area , also too many female users sit there glued to phones , and not working out. I would rather they were not in the way. I have always advised younger guys to NEVER ogle and definitely never ever attempt an approach @ a gym , you will be as welcome as the Ebola virus.
I wouldn't focus so much on what others are doing and focus on your own fitness. Im annoyed when i go swimming and they have kids only or pentioners only hours. Its what buissnesses do. If it annoys you maybe then you should find another gym. I know plenty of men only gyms which is kinda annoying if i give it thought
This is mainly why I go to female only yoga. So I don’t have to deal with guys in gyms.
As a business it seems reasonable to me that they may want to structure so that they maximize opportunities to succeed. The question becomes, do you gain more women customers enough to offset potential losses in your men’s side if the business.Don't know, all the gyms I've gone to never had female hours. Most women don't care if men are there, they just work out anyway. But i don't know, i think it's mostly a self conscience or paranoia thing. They see people working out and worry about not doing it right or not getting in shape like that person when the truth is no one is really staring at you.
Yeah that sounds like a great idea! That is if men get a time as well. Some women think rather then it being actual. Although there are some men who actually do that I am sure there are some women who do as well. Its not a smart idea for a lot of reasons. One its sexist, two that's time that other people are missing. People work it in their schedules. If why have set times then that might interfer with someone elses time. That's way to much hassle for a public gym. If people have an issue with 'stares' then they should find a better fitting gym that appeals to them or work out at home. No one cares what other people are doing unless they are being noticeable.
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